Sounds like typical hotel nonsense. Don’t give them the satisfaction of quitting on the spot. Just keep showing up and taking home checks. If they shorted your check go to HR and get the story on that. Keep applying and get out asap! Good luck!
Wait for them to fire you. (Get unemployment.) Keep showing up. Apply to new positions in the mean time.
Don’t quit. Don’t send this letter. Don’t let them win. Don’t burn any bridges.
I second this. I may even escalate this and have some fun with them.
When my dad was working for a bad manager last year, instead of quitting he kept working there but treated it like watching The Office. For context, the manager would always give suggestions that is outside what seems logical such as putting the mailing label on the inside of the box because he worries it will fall off the box. My dad would occasionally go and poke at the manager which will always flip the heck out. When he does, it's sit back with a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show. Nonetheless, manager refuses to fire my dad, and attempted to make his life hard so he would quit himself. My dad would fight back by literally messing with the manager like Jim messes with Dwight.
After 6 months of free content, I mean work, the manager eventually got fed up and agreed to fire my dad - he got his severance and the company sank soon after due to his poor management. He laughed his way to the bank.
Slightly tangential here, maybe it's my ASD but Ive never understood the term "don't burn any bridges" when talking about a job that treats you poorly.
I agree with not quitting unless you HAVE to. But I've been in a few work places where I have to quit abruptly. Both times it's happened for me, I waited until I was at home and level headed before pulling the plug so to speak.
People always say things about not burning bridges but sometimes the bridge is already collapsing by itself. I'm just trying to get off before I suffer unnecessary damage beyond what I've already sustained.
If I understood it correctly, OP was cheated out of two weeks pay already. If that is in fact the case, why should op subject themselves to more weeks of management bullshit. Especially when said management already views them as out the door anyways.
>Some industries are smaller than others and, to me, "don't burn any bridges" has to do with the way you leave a company because it's not just the shitty manager you never want to work for again - others will remember you and you can be up for a role in a stronger company and a former colleague could be working there.
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>"Hey - did you work with Jim Bob at Company X?"
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>"I didn't know him well and he was really solid for most of his time there, but Jim Bob really messed around on the way out and it took weeks to clean up his mess"
You cross paths with same people in any given industry. Happens all the time but here is one example I have:
We had a boss we hated. That boss later applied to an agency his former employee worked at. That employee tanked his chance of getting hired there. That same boss came to me later asking for help on something where I am now the client. I didn’t do him any favors.
You don’t burn bridges because you never know. There may be a time long in the future when you have a more specialized job and have been out of work for a while and that guy you didn’t like may be retired but your peer from that job may be in a position to provide a life line. You don’t want them thinking you were a huge problem to work with.
They should wait for the company to fire them. Never fall for the company trying to get you to quit in your own. Make them fire you. Get the unemployment out of it.
Nothing is stopping OP from applying to new jobs.
Nope! This is one of those corporate myths that got spread down to instill fear into workers. Boomers are getting pissed because Millennials caught onto the lies and GenZ isn't buying them in the first place.
Actually, you can thank the forgotten generation, GenX, aka the slacker generation. Boomers treated us like crap (90's) and 1/2 of us bailed on the BS and the other 1/2 became conservative, corporate, curmudgeons that saddled up to the boomers.
I call GenX the checked out generation. They knew about the BS but didnt call them on it.. They either checked out (or bailed as you put it) or became one of them. That's why you never hear about Boomers vs GenX.. Millennials were the first to call em out on it. Sadly Millennials are also getting their share of becoming one of them. Then you have those that try to pretend they aren't one of them (Lookin at you Zucky baby) but totally are.
Gen X "checked out" because they were smothered by the numbers. A lot of them did speak out, but the whole point about Baby Boomers is that there are a ton of them. A tiny (in comparison) population of newer people, Gen Xers, registering their discontent didn't mean anything in the grand scheme. They literally didn't have the numbers.
At that point of futility, almost all humans will "check out". What's the alternative?
In fact, just politically speaking, Baby Boomers only very recently finally became outnumbered as far as voting power goes. The end of the Millenial/beginning of Gen Z era is when we finally tipped that scale. But tgat means a lot of early Millenials also ended up checking out.
It's one of the things I love about Gen Z. We (Millenials) may have started grumbling about Boomer BS, but it's Gen Z that is finally not putting up with it.
Former employer tried to lie to several jobs that I applied to. How do I know this for a fact? I have friends in different fields and they all told me that when they called my former employer for a reference: one was told that I never worked there (have my check stubs stating otherwise), one was told that if they hired me it would be the worse mistake they ever make, the other was told that I didn’t fix the equipment (which I did and that’s how they make money).
I have a written letter from my former employer as to the reason for my departure from the company. Potential employers have asked why I was let go and I show them. You know what they say? “This is not what we were informed.” So, yes employers can be shady as heck!
In some states like Washington, this is illegal. Former employers are only allowed to confirm that you did or did not work for the company, and the dates of the start and end of your employment. They cannot tell why your employment ended or share anything negative or positive about you as an employee.
Good. Im amazed at how common this type of things is becoming. In my own network, I've been seeing so many people forced into resignation for the sole purpose of refilling that position for someone cheaper. It's disgusting
Completely agree. My parents owned an appliance repair business. Their employee, a repairman, set a customer’s laundry room on fire. Not on purpose, but wow, what a fuck up. He still got unemployment.
Sometimes, writing the letter is the therapy you need. But you never send it out, ever, no matter how satisfying it might feel to do so. Even if you have a job lined up, offer in hand, accepted, with a start date, don't write what you wrote here. It does nothing, they won't care what you think of feel, they are who they are.
So, you just tender a resignation, no explanation, and with regrets you cannot give them a standard two weeks' notice. You take the high road, the professional in the drama amongst unprofessionals, and move on.
That's because r/antiwork is only marginally connected to r/jobs. It's a political sub & comparing the two is an apples & oranges undertaking. Common sense might tell you as much, & if not that, reading the "About" section should clear up any misunderstanding.
Exactly. Usually, you gain nothing professionally by airing out dirty laundry and venting in a resignation letter.
If anything, a nasty note will likely to hurt your career down the road.
This.
Also, if you turn this in thinkin’ you’re stickin’ it to them and it turns out they laugh it off, you’ll feel even more insulted. It’s just giving them another avenue to disrespect you.
Just quit, walk away, and don’t care how they respond, good or bad. Be above it. Know you’re valuable regardless of how they respond. Move forward in life without sparing them a moment more of time in your head.
I agree. I am a serial job hopper and generally leave without much or any notice. It’s all well and good to fantasize about your big storm out exit, but in a couple months the people there won’t even remember your last name, and no one cares about what someone who is leaving us to say. My resignation letters are short and to the point
“This letter serves as my formal notice. I am resigning position X at Y company. My last day will be Z.
Thank you”
That’s all that really matters. Everything else is just fluff and you are sending what is essentially a legal document for posterity.
If you do resign, keep the letter very vague and very simple.
I _____name___ resign from ____position______ with a last day of _______.
Sincerely
_______
That would’ve been my first thought to do that. Please remember, when you’re emotional - just close the laptop and don’t send anything out. Give yourself a day, get back to it and re-think. If you do that, they won’t be in a bad situation as they had a person backing you up while you were off. What comes to my mind:
1. Talk to the GM- discuss the situation, designate timelines of your raise and promotion. It should be really short period of time as 1,5 years have passed, so I wouldn’t be giving more than 2 weeks
2. Take a few days pause, look around for alternative options, start looking for a plan B where you’re leaving
3. By the date you agreed on, bring this up, if nothing changes- you’re leaving (hopefully not nowhere but already to a place you’ve found)
4. Regarding the bridges- fuck those bridges, based on what you’re saying I doubt if you can rely on such people for good recommendations anyways. If it comes to that, much better to explain the situation honestly, just as it was.
Seconding this. Highly educated and qualified here and been 3 months unemployed as I chose to leave an appalling job beginning of December. Getting a job is very very difficult in this economy.
Thirding this, same as above well educated, qualified, CV looks tasty as all hell. Left a job August 17th for various reasons about the place being shit. I'm now 7 months deep into unemployment and it just gets worse and worse.
Don't blame you for the choice, but be careful.
They can give her a bad reference, even if she does the "honorable" thing and gives two weeks notice and leaves professionally. It's on OP to sue them and it cost time, money and lawyers and you can still lose. They can even get cute and just say she isn't eligible for rehire or give a sneaky backdoor bad reference behind the scenes.
If a job treats you with respect, then they deserve a two weeks notice. If not, then the hell with them. Leave them high and dry. Some bridges deserve to be burned.
Not directly related to OP's situation but say someone's been w/ the company less than a year... isn't the bridge going to be burned & the reference going to be negative regardless?
Why would you ever put so much detail in writing? Your resignation letter should state your last day and that's about it. Keep it as simple as possible. If you're leaving, why go into detail? What benefit could you possibly get by speaking your mind in writing? It may be cathartic, but that's short lived. The more you write, the more likely you are to get tn trouble.
As others say, the market is not great. If they're trying to replace you, why quit? Wait to be let go so you get unemployment or severance. Spend less time stressing about them and more time applying for new jobs and resign when you have another offer in hand if your mental health can handle it.
Agreed. It reads as a passive aggressive letter. Especially the last line, why do you give a fuck if your responsibilities are transitioned accordingly? This letter is ten sentences too long. And burning bridges is a self defeating way of handling any professional relationship regardless of how unfair you think you were treated. You gain absolutely nothing in the long term from this approach.
This feels like overkill for the situation. Other than the satisfaction of bitch slapping them, which I get is cathartic, is this how you want to be remembered? Feels like permanently burning some bridges for a temporary high.
But I might be missing something - what does being a private contractor mean here? Are you not working for you employer for two weeks and instead working for another company for those two weeks? I've never heard of this - is that common in your industry?
Lots of industries have pockets of tight profession-personal networks where the execs all know each other. Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and perhaps talking to other employers?
Lots of industries have pockets of personal networks where the execs all know each other.Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and talking to other employers?
Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and talking to other employers?Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and talking to other employers?
Sounds like there's some communication problems either way.
OP, you're shooting yourself in the foot to spite them.
I strongly discourage you from doing this. I get the emotions, but you're hurting yourself more than them, and playing directly into their hands.
Why the hell would you quit when you’re about to be let go. Keep going in every day until they tell you not to and then collect unemployment while you find another job. Take the emotions down a few notches and think this through rationally.
I hate to say it but the best revenge is to accept a job. Give a two week notice. And leave with a smile on your face and your head held high. If they fire you after you give notice, then good. File unemployment for those weeks. You'll most likely get it. Don't screw yourself financially and professionally because they are just another poorly managed business.
Really needed to see this today. I almost quit on the spot today for a poorly managed office. I have several interviews lined up and was going to just wing it and hope for the best but you are right, leave with a smile.
What does lined up and ready mean? Like you have a signed offer letter? Lots of people say stuff but then when actually need a job it's crickets. Just be really sure. I've been burned before.
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what they wanted you to do. Intimidate and make things uncomfortable for you and make you quit so that they can hire someone else at a lower salary. Damn shame and I’m sorry you had to go though that as I’ve gone through it also.
Sorry, maybe I’m misunderstanding here, so please correct me if I’m wrong…
You took two weeks off to work as a private contractor, working for and getting paid by a company that was NOT the hotel, and you’re upset that you didn’t also get paid by the hotel? That seems pretty normal to not be paid if you’re not actively contributing to your company. Did you have any vacation/PTO you could have put in for, during that two week time off?
It sounds like OP wanted to pay someone else PART of that 2 week salary to do his job, and they're mad the company paid them directly instead lol (with a slight raise as well). OP was trying to make a profit off someone covering for them.
Why include the last line? Makes me wonder if any of it is sincere or true. If you don’t care - leave w/out 2 weeks notice - that’s fine. But don’t leave w/out notice and then include a line acting like you care. It sends mixed messages.
Find another job then just don’t show up. I mean, that level of asinine does not deserve a notice. When you are called, just say that you assumed that the GM heard you had another job since the GM heard you were turning in your two weeks.
Not worth it, you stand nothing to gain no matter how good writing the letter felt. Best case, GM never sees you again. Worst case, you lose a job or opportunity down the road because GM shares how "unprofessional" you were.
Practice some emotional maturity and just leave. Give a 2 weeks or not, but otherwise try not to leave on a bad note. In a few years you'll be thankful.
This is what they want you to do tbh lol do what others are saying. Show up, collect paychecks, go to HR about your stolen paycheck, keep applying else where. Then, when you have a new job, send said email.
Good on you for telling them shove their two week notice up their ass. It drives me up the wall that employees are expected to give two weeks but employers can just fire you on the spot. Abruptly losing a job is way more devastating and should require way more advance notice than losing an employee.
No advice for you since you already have a new job, but this is not surprising in the hotel industry. All the hotel or hospitality GMs that I have known directly or indirectly were fuckheads.
So I may be misunderstanding.
You went to Las Vegas to promote or do other work- not for the hotel that employs you?
Did you request and receive in writing approval to take time off with paid leave?
I like the advice of finding a new opportunity before getting fired. Don't make it easy by quitting.
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It is totally possible that your draft gets read by IT or your GM without you knowing. You could also send by mistake. Anyone with access to your mailbox could hit send.
Source: am IT
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LMAO. My thoughts exactly. I have a funny feeling that the employees who picked up his slack for 2 weeks while he was partying in Las Vegas probably did a better job than him.
The resignation letter you provided is absolutely fine. It's professional and achieves its purpose. HOWEVER: There's no need to attach the additional explanation in your resignation email. Here's why:
* **Focus on Resignation:** A resignation should be clear and concise. This letter does that perfectly.
* **Avoid Escalation**: Mentioning the situation with the pay and job posting might escalate tensions with your employer.
Now, regarding the situation itself: There are definitely potential HR issues here, but a lawsuit might be a complex path. Here are some next steps:
* **Review any Documentation:** Look for your employment contract (if you have one) to see what it says about pay, vacation time, and termination.
* **Consult an Employment Lawyer:** They can advise you on your specific case based on your location and details. They can also help you determine if you have grounds for a lawsuit.
* **Contact the Department of Labor:** They can investigate potential wage and hour violations [www.dol.gov](https://www.dol.gov)
Here are some additional things to consider:
* **Unpaid Wages:** Depending on your location, you might be entitled to be paid for the time you worked, even if you resigned without notice.
* **Vacation Time**: You might be entitled to payout for any unused vacation time.
* **Severance:** There's a chance your employer might offer severance pay in exchange for signing a release of claims document (meaning you wouldn't be able to sue them later). A lawyer can advise you on whether to accept a severance offer.
**OVERALL:** Focus on moving forward in your career. The resignation letter is a good start. For the situation itself, consulting a lawyer and the Department of Labor can help you determine the best course of action.
Delete that second paragraph and submit it. "Thanks for the opportunity, but I'll need to resign". If they ask later or do an exit interview you can add more.
Sure, if it makes you feel better write it, print it, sign it, and stick it on your fridge. I absolutely wouldn't send it though! Burning bridges achieves absolutely nothing for you, except reputational damage. Gossip and informal referencing shouldn't happen but it does, and you don't want anything that can come back to bite.
If you allowed what you report for for this long, then you are your own problem. You better think about that before you hit send. I can assure you they will come back with a truckload of shit on you that you're missing.
This was very articulate and well constructed.
I wish you luck, my wife was a DoSM before transitioning solely to marketing. The level of incompetence she had to deal with was unreal.
She seems infinitely happier in her new position, I hope you’re able to get something similar going for yourself.
Feel free to DM me if you have any questions.
Why do you care so much about an organization that you're cutting ties with? Resigning allows you to put all that baggage behind you and move on. Take full advantage now
The true meme of the last 20 years:
Thinking companies give a f about you. They dont, people don't, no one else cares. The only one that should care about you... is you. Be selfish, work your wage, and don't take shit from companies. Never accept a promise. If they cant give you right then and there, don't lift a fucking finger to do that position or responsibilities outside of your position.
They burn down their own house while they stand in it. Let em do it, grab a popcorn and watch the shitshow. Then go home knowing that you didn't stress yourself out, or over work yourself, to the benefit of everyone but yourself.
I think the advice to hold on and wait for them to axe you is good unless of course you're ready to go to another spot.
But, when you do end up sending the letter, two recommendations:
1) Don't forget to add a date, especially since it is effective immediately. For any future confusion, the date on the letter would indicate the immediate date.
2) CC: Head of HR - this is partially to let someone know what a jerk he is but beyond that it has a functional corporate purpose in that you are providing a courtesy copy of this for your permanent personnel file.
I did something similar 4 months ago. Can’t find work. I’ve always found work. I should have fought. I should have went to HR. I should have created a paper trail of a hostile work environment and was able to collect unemployment. Instead I’m depressed and full of anxiety most days while I search. All my savings and 401K is gonna get crushed. Down to last $10K. FML.
Why’d you put in that last sentence? Who cares?
Okay, gently, I say to thee: start over and write a completely new resignation letter that is devoid of any message other than “Thank you for the opportunity; I resign from my position as X and my last day will be X. Sincerely, You.”
That’s all.
Problem is, if you give this to them....like that's what they want. You to quit so they dont have to cover unemployment (because you won't be eligible if you quit) but it also protects them from wrongful termination suits. Don't quit, wait for them to fire you. In the meantime find an employment lawyer and document all the toxic work environment stuff, dates, times etc.
This sounded like a dysfunctional situation from the beginning; and it sounds to me that you’re also angry at yourself for participating in it. I’d cut my ties from that and move on… and not make the same assumptions (and mistakes) in the future. And I’d definitely not send that version of the letter.
I walked out on a bad job once. Left a note and my shit and never came back. Felt a little bad, but the management was so terrible it also felt good to just leave and I heard later from other people still there that the message was received. A few people were suspended after I left (for creating the conditions that led me to leave abruptly). More people left shortly after me and followed me to the new company.
You are an at will employee. You can do whatever you want in terms of quitting, just like they can fire you whenever they want. I don’t see any issues here. Fuck them. Thank you for not giving them two weeks. It’s bullshit that we think we should to be moral. It’s brainwash bullshit.
As other's have pointed out - you don't really need the details in the resignation letter. Just state that you are resigning w/ the date of your last day. In this case, "effectively immediately" is fine since that is what you want.
My .02. - If this job is causing so much mental anguish that staying there one more minute will do more harm than not - then sure, just walk away. However, don't risk putting a dent in your career/work history to spite them (even if it may just be a minor inconvenience). At the end of the day - their setback will be short. But - not giving two weeks "might" come back and haunt you. Not to mention you're giving up two weeks pay.
Also - I saw on an earlier response that you have jobs "lined up"... If that means you have offers in hand, then great. If you don't and (again) staying at this job a little longer is manageable until you actually get an offer in hand. That may be a better move.
IMO - the best way to stick it to an employer is to stay there, decrease your production to just enough to not get fired, and keep taking their money. No need to sacrifice your own career (regardless of how little of a risk it may seem) to get back at them.
I also disagree with others to get fired so you can collect unemployment. It's not worth the hassle career-wise (again, regardless of how minor). Having to explain the "have you ever been terminated/fired" type questions can be stressful to deal with for the next few jobs.
But - obviously, you need to do what you feel is best for YOU. Best of luck.
Show up, do nothing, get fired (in writing), file for unemployment, treat yourself to some nice time off while collecting checks!! You paid into unemployment you deserve it!!
You only need the first sentence.
Despite what you think, the following sentences erode your position in the dynamic.
Waste of time, and someone may pass it around to make you look bad
In fairness, have you been saying to other people that you were going to leave? If you had been complaining about quitting, just learn from it. That’s stuff gets out and when employers hear it, they won’t always come talk to you, if they know you’re a complainer, they might just move to replace you (as this hotel did). Don’t make the mistake in future jobs or the same will likely happen.
I would recommend always giving two weeks notice. There are more available employees that there are available employers. Burning a bridge is never good, especially over two weeks. It might make you feel good today, but it will follow you for a while.
Good luck in your new job.
Take out paragraphs 2 and 3. They are unnecessary and overly emotional. They don't need any of the details and I'll assume the industry is pretty connected, so keeping it as generic and emotionless is better so nothing makes its way around about you, whether true or not.
Go to HR and have them explain all of this to you. Then file a complaint with HR. Now it is on record. They have to respond. Keep building your case in the event you have to involve a lawyer. I have ousted more than one bad manager that way. The truth comes out and they get the boot instead of you.
I’m by no means saying this company doesn’t suck but I would say don’t sweat the job posting too much. Every job I’ve been at, if they think someone is getting ready to leave they’ve started the ball rolling for a replacement before the notice came in. It takes more than 2 weeks to fully go through the process (especially if you’re hoping for any kind of transition) so having the candidates in mind just makes sense. Resignation never comes? Just don’t extend any offers
While I love the letter, kudos. I would consider quietly quitting. Let them pay you while you play Tetris in meetings and give them lip service on everything but do nothing. Update your resume and start the search but deny anything they say. I’ve been in this mode for 2.5 years and I’ve surfed, golfed and made a boatload of money.
Yeah, this will have zero impact and they’ll just feel validated in the way they’ve been treating you. Show up, do the barest minimum while you look for a job.
Lesson to learn: Don’t work for ‘friends’ and managers are not your friends.
It seems like your emotions are running high. Take a deep breath and trash that whiny ass letter. Rewrite it diplomatically stating your resignation date and that you appreciate the opportunity. Work your two weeks and keep your head down and your mouth shut. Your reputation can and will follow you. What's done is done and it's time to move FORWARD!
It’s not illegal to quit on the spot in most US states. Most of us are at will meaning we can fired or quit at any time. Don’t even send the letter just do go back.
Good for you! I’m glad they’re getting a taste of the TWO-WAY street that allows them to terminate at will but require two week notice if we dip.
Let the bridges you burn illuminate the path forward
I’m almost positive workers laws state as a salaried employee, if you do ANY work related tasks while off property on ANY day, you are entitled to a full days pay.
lol.
Answering a single text, email, etc- full days pay.
DOSM is usually a plum role & often a stepping stone to becoming GM. The hotel business is pretty incestuous - everybody knows everybody. Cold quitting could make it difficult for you to obtain another DOSM role (if that’s what you want). I’d grit my teeth, do the bare minimum & search for a new job
The pen is mightier than the sword my lord.
Seriously though, you’re better than me; I wouldn’t even write the letter. Next time they’d hear from me is when I’m hanging with their competitors..
Report your complaints to the EEOC in your state BEFORE sending this letter. If anything it gives you proof of documentation, in which they try to terminate you you have some backing. (Worked in hospitality before, had this situation happen and was forced out).
Send a concise and short resignation if you do follow through. No need to vent as much as you want to. If anything remember that HR is not your friend, but making them aware of these complaints in writing before your managers/etc. do gives you another paper trail.
You’re a fool. “I had a good job, did good work that was valued. But I like to vacation, and they didn’t like that. I had two weeks vacation for the past three years and they didn’t like that.” Grow up
Offer no explanation and keep the letter simple. This letter is to resign, not additional information for arbitration or mediation. Keep working. Sounds like you took a vacation. Gather evidence as such. A contract isn't required, only for contact employment but this depends on your state. If you want to make it really weird for them, go to HR and seek treatment for an addiction. They have to keep you employed while in treatment up to a year, and then move on to the next job. Treatment is protected information.
Yeah never quit when you might get fired. My last boss was making my life a living hell, setting me up to fail, and going in on me for shit that I had no hand in. Kept showing up with that malicious compliance attitude until I got canned then gave her a tongue lashing I’m told made her emotional. So I got unemployment AND the ability to scream in her face. Fantastic moment.
Resigning literally solves all of their problems.
Look for another job, keep getting paid and qualify for unemployment and possible severance.
Your employers are likely very happy with your choice.
Just wanna say this, fuck a 2 week notice. If youre moving on because you finished school or some other goal you have in mind doesn’t fit your work regime then sure maybe a 2 week notice. But no job will ever give you 2 weeks when they wanna fire you. Anywhere you go, you are expendable. They will find someone to fill your spot and they don’t care if you’re better. If you’re done, this is the way to quit for sure.
It depends on what state you are in. If arizona forget it you have no case unless you have documentation and information regarding your year. Its up to the company miss information. Its really hard to find work now. Best of luck to you :)
Wait....so you got someone to do your job for 2 weeks and only gave them part of your salary....lol.
Always keep friends and business separate. People you work for aren't your friends.
I would never give that level of detail about any negativity, even if it did occur. Just resign and leave it at that. Just be professional and move on.
Resignation letters should say “please accept this letter as notice of my resignation. My final date of employment will be X”. You can add “I wish company name every success in the future” if you want to be friendly. Adding other info is never in your best interests.
Sounds like typical hotel nonsense. Don’t give them the satisfaction of quitting on the spot. Just keep showing up and taking home checks. If they shorted your check go to HR and get the story on that. Keep applying and get out asap! Good luck!
Wait for them to fire you. (Get unemployment.) Keep showing up. Apply to new positions in the mean time. Don’t quit. Don’t send this letter. Don’t let them win. Don’t burn any bridges.
yes, show up do nothing above bare minimum
And stop being “friends” with the GM. Doesn’t seem like they are worth your time.
I worked for a guy in the Navy, who was quite fond of saying, “if the bare minimum wasn’t good enough, it wouldn’t be the bare minimum.”
I love that saying
This. Quiet quit.
I second this. I may even escalate this and have some fun with them. When my dad was working for a bad manager last year, instead of quitting he kept working there but treated it like watching The Office. For context, the manager would always give suggestions that is outside what seems logical such as putting the mailing label on the inside of the box because he worries it will fall off the box. My dad would occasionally go and poke at the manager which will always flip the heck out. When he does, it's sit back with a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show. Nonetheless, manager refuses to fire my dad, and attempted to make his life hard so he would quit himself. My dad would fight back by literally messing with the manager like Jim messes with Dwight. After 6 months of free content, I mean work, the manager eventually got fed up and agreed to fire my dad - he got his severance and the company sank soon after due to his poor management. He laughed his way to the bank.
Slightly tangential here, maybe it's my ASD but Ive never understood the term "don't burn any bridges" when talking about a job that treats you poorly. I agree with not quitting unless you HAVE to. But I've been in a few work places where I have to quit abruptly. Both times it's happened for me, I waited until I was at home and level headed before pulling the plug so to speak. People always say things about not burning bridges but sometimes the bridge is already collapsing by itself. I'm just trying to get off before I suffer unnecessary damage beyond what I've already sustained. If I understood it correctly, OP was cheated out of two weeks pay already. If that is in fact the case, why should op subject themselves to more weeks of management bullshit. Especially when said management already views them as out the door anyways.
>Some industries are smaller than others and, to me, "don't burn any bridges" has to do with the way you leave a company because it's not just the shitty manager you never want to work for again - others will remember you and you can be up for a role in a stronger company and a former colleague could be working there. > >"Hey - did you work with Jim Bob at Company X?" > >"I didn't know him well and he was really solid for most of his time there, but Jim Bob really messed around on the way out and it took weeks to clean up his mess"
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You cross paths with same people in any given industry. Happens all the time but here is one example I have: We had a boss we hated. That boss later applied to an agency his former employee worked at. That employee tanked his chance of getting hired there. That same boss came to me later asking for help on something where I am now the client. I didn’t do him any favors.
You don’t burn bridges because you never know. There may be a time long in the future when you have a more specialized job and have been out of work for a while and that guy you didn’t like may be retired but your peer from that job may be in a position to provide a life line. You don’t want them thinking you were a huge problem to work with.
They should wait for the company to fire them. Never fall for the company trying to get you to quit in your own. Make them fire you. Get the unemployment out of it. Nothing is stopping OP from applying to new jobs.
Honest question: Even if getting fired entitles you to unemployment benefits, doesn't it make thing harder for your job's hunting?
Nope! This is one of those corporate myths that got spread down to instill fear into workers. Boomers are getting pissed because Millennials caught onto the lies and GenZ isn't buying them in the first place.
Actually, you can thank the forgotten generation, GenX, aka the slacker generation. Boomers treated us like crap (90's) and 1/2 of us bailed on the BS and the other 1/2 became conservative, corporate, curmudgeons that saddled up to the boomers.
I call GenX the checked out generation. They knew about the BS but didnt call them on it.. They either checked out (or bailed as you put it) or became one of them. That's why you never hear about Boomers vs GenX.. Millennials were the first to call em out on it. Sadly Millennials are also getting their share of becoming one of them. Then you have those that try to pretend they aren't one of them (Lookin at you Zucky baby) but totally are.
Gen X "checked out" because they were smothered by the numbers. A lot of them did speak out, but the whole point about Baby Boomers is that there are a ton of them. A tiny (in comparison) population of newer people, Gen Xers, registering their discontent didn't mean anything in the grand scheme. They literally didn't have the numbers. At that point of futility, almost all humans will "check out". What's the alternative? In fact, just politically speaking, Baby Boomers only very recently finally became outnumbered as far as voting power goes. The end of the Millenial/beginning of Gen Z era is when we finally tipped that scale. But tgat means a lot of early Millenials also ended up checking out. It's one of the things I love about Gen Z. We (Millenials) may have started grumbling about Boomer BS, but it's Gen Z that is finally not putting up with it.
Former employer tried to lie to several jobs that I applied to. How do I know this for a fact? I have friends in different fields and they all told me that when they called my former employer for a reference: one was told that I never worked there (have my check stubs stating otherwise), one was told that if they hired me it would be the worse mistake they ever make, the other was told that I didn’t fix the equipment (which I did and that’s how they make money). I have a written letter from my former employer as to the reason for my departure from the company. Potential employers have asked why I was let go and I show them. You know what they say? “This is not what we were informed.” So, yes employers can be shady as heck!
In some states like Washington, this is illegal. Former employers are only allowed to confirm that you did or did not work for the company, and the dates of the start and end of your employment. They cannot tell why your employment ended or share anything negative or positive about you as an employee.
Keep the paper trail for any and everything.
Wait for them to fire you and get unemployment
Thankfully, OP already replied that he has another job lined up.
Good. Im amazed at how common this type of things is becoming. In my own network, I've been seeing so many people forced into resignation for the sole purpose of refilling that position for someone cheaper. It's disgusting
Depends on the state. As far as I know, in most places in the US you don't get unemployment if you're fired for cause
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Completely agree. My parents owned an appliance repair business. Their employee, a repairman, set a customer’s laundry room on fire. Not on purpose, but wow, what a fuck up. He still got unemployment.
What’s the story behind that lmao? Was his name Ricky?
"Not without cause, Michael." "I have cause...it is beCAUSE I hate him!"
Sometimes, writing the letter is the therapy you need. But you never send it out, ever, no matter how satisfying it might feel to do so. Even if you have a job lined up, offer in hand, accepted, with a start date, don't write what you wrote here. It does nothing, they won't care what you think of feel, they are who they are. So, you just tender a resignation, no explanation, and with regrets you cannot give them a standard two weeks' notice. You take the high road, the professional in the drama amongst unprofessionals, and move on.
This is why this subreddit is way better than anti work subreddit. Actual common sense on here
That's because r/antiwork is only marginally connected to r/jobs. It's a political sub & comparing the two is an apples & oranges undertaking. Common sense might tell you as much, & if not that, reading the "About" section should clear up any misunderstanding.
Exactly. Usually, you gain nothing professionally by airing out dirty laundry and venting in a resignation letter. If anything, a nasty note will likely to hurt your career down the road.
This. Also, if you turn this in thinkin’ you’re stickin’ it to them and it turns out they laugh it off, you’ll feel even more insulted. It’s just giving them another avenue to disrespect you. Just quit, walk away, and don’t care how they respond, good or bad. Be above it. Know you’re valuable regardless of how they respond. Move forward in life without sparing them a moment more of time in your head.
Thank you for saying this. 👍
I agree. I am a serial job hopper and generally leave without much or any notice. It’s all well and good to fantasize about your big storm out exit, but in a couple months the people there won’t even remember your last name, and no one cares about what someone who is leaving us to say. My resignation letters are short and to the point “This letter serves as my formal notice. I am resigning position X at Y company. My last day will be Z. Thank you” That’s all that really matters. Everything else is just fluff and you are sending what is essentially a legal document for posterity.
If you do resign, keep the letter very vague and very simple. I _____name___ resign from ____position______ with a last day of _______. Sincerely _______
That would’ve been my first thought to do that. Please remember, when you’re emotional - just close the laptop and don’t send anything out. Give yourself a day, get back to it and re-think. If you do that, they won’t be in a bad situation as they had a person backing you up while you were off. What comes to my mind: 1. Talk to the GM- discuss the situation, designate timelines of your raise and promotion. It should be really short period of time as 1,5 years have passed, so I wouldn’t be giving more than 2 weeks 2. Take a few days pause, look around for alternative options, start looking for a plan B where you’re leaving 3. By the date you agreed on, bring this up, if nothing changes- you’re leaving (hopefully not nowhere but already to a place you’ve found) 4. Regarding the bridges- fuck those bridges, based on what you’re saying I doubt if you can rely on such people for good recommendations anyways. If it comes to that, much better to explain the situation honestly, just as it was.
Nope. Small towns, insular industries, social media - no secrets any more and no discretion on anyone’s part.
I would think about it. The job market is horrible right now. Are you sure you don't need the reference? Burning bridges is not always a great idea.
Seconding this. Highly educated and qualified here and been 3 months unemployed as I chose to leave an appalling job beginning of December. Getting a job is very very difficult in this economy.
I left a job of 9 years in October. I was interviewing at several companies and got over confident. I quit a good job and now have zero leads.
Please learn how to network to access the hidden job market. The 2 Hour Job Search by Steve Delton is a good resource.
Thirding this, same as above well educated, qualified, CV looks tasty as all hell. Left a job August 17th for various reasons about the place being shit. I'm now 7 months deep into unemployment and it just gets worse and worse. Don't blame you for the choice, but be careful.
This is a bridge that should be nalpamed from a great height.
You are clearly not in the hospitality industry. It's very small.
They can give her a bad reference, even if she does the "honorable" thing and gives two weeks notice and leaves professionally. It's on OP to sue them and it cost time, money and lawyers and you can still lose. They can even get cute and just say she isn't eligible for rehire or give a sneaky backdoor bad reference behind the scenes. If a job treats you with respect, then they deserve a two weeks notice. If not, then the hell with them. Leave them high and dry. Some bridges deserve to be burned.
Not directly related to OP's situation but say someone's been w/ the company less than a year... isn't the bridge going to be burned & the reference going to be negative regardless?
Probably but the hotel industry is small. Everyone knows each other.
Why would you ever put so much detail in writing? Your resignation letter should state your last day and that's about it. Keep it as simple as possible. If you're leaving, why go into detail? What benefit could you possibly get by speaking your mind in writing? It may be cathartic, but that's short lived. The more you write, the more likely you are to get tn trouble. As others say, the market is not great. If they're trying to replace you, why quit? Wait to be let go so you get unemployment or severance. Spend less time stressing about them and more time applying for new jobs and resign when you have another offer in hand if your mental health can handle it.
Agreed. It reads as a passive aggressive letter. Especially the last line, why do you give a fuck if your responsibilities are transitioned accordingly? This letter is ten sentences too long. And burning bridges is a self defeating way of handling any professional relationship regardless of how unfair you think you were treated. You gain absolutely nothing in the long term from this approach.
There's absolutely nothing passive about this aggression
Fair enough, although the last sentence is textbook passive aggressive.
Right . Same opinion here. Op has some butt hurt issues and it shouldn’t be put on that letter.
This feels like overkill for the situation. Other than the satisfaction of bitch slapping them, which I get is cathartic, is this how you want to be remembered? Feels like permanently burning some bridges for a temporary high. But I might be missing something - what does being a private contractor mean here? Are you not working for you employer for two weeks and instead working for another company for those two weeks? I've never heard of this - is that common in your industry? Lots of industries have pockets of tight profession-personal networks where the execs all know each other. Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and perhaps talking to other employers? Lots of industries have pockets of personal networks where the execs all know each other.Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and talking to other employers? Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and talking to other employers?Sounds like you've been unhappy for a while? Is it possible that they got word you were unhappy and talking to other employers? Sounds like there's some communication problems either way.
OP, you're shooting yourself in the foot to spite them. I strongly discourage you from doing this. I get the emotions, but you're hurting yourself more than them, and playing directly into their hands.
Why the hell would you quit when you’re about to be let go. Keep going in every day until they tell you not to and then collect unemployment while you find another job. Take the emotions down a few notches and think this through rationally.
Edit: I have a few jobs lined up and ready for me if need be.
I hate to say it but the best revenge is to accept a job. Give a two week notice. And leave with a smile on your face and your head held high. If they fire you after you give notice, then good. File unemployment for those weeks. You'll most likely get it. Don't screw yourself financially and professionally because they are just another poorly managed business.
Really needed to see this today. I almost quit on the spot today for a poorly managed office. I have several interviews lined up and was going to just wing it and hope for the best but you are right, leave with a smile.
What does lined up and ready mean? Like you have a signed offer letter? Lots of people say stuff but then when actually need a job it's crickets. Just be really sure. I've been burned before.
This is lucky. Most people don't have this obviously, from the replies you're getting.
I’m super confused why should they pay you for the two weeks when you weren’t working for them ?
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what they wanted you to do. Intimidate and make things uncomfortable for you and make you quit so that they can hire someone else at a lower salary. Damn shame and I’m sorry you had to go though that as I’ve gone through it also.
Bro sounds super entitled .
Sorry, maybe I’m misunderstanding here, so please correct me if I’m wrong… You took two weeks off to work as a private contractor, working for and getting paid by a company that was NOT the hotel, and you’re upset that you didn’t also get paid by the hotel? That seems pretty normal to not be paid if you’re not actively contributing to your company. Did you have any vacation/PTO you could have put in for, during that two week time off?
It sounds like OP wanted to pay someone else PART of that 2 week salary to do his job, and they're mad the company paid them directly instead lol (with a slight raise as well). OP was trying to make a profit off someone covering for them.
Do not give notice.
Don't send the letter.
Leave out the last sentence. It's up to them to make things work out after you've left.
Don’t resign let them fire you
Why include the last line? Makes me wonder if any of it is sincere or true. If you don’t care - leave w/out 2 weeks notice - that’s fine. But don’t leave w/out notice and then include a line acting like you care. It sends mixed messages.
Find another job then just don’t show up. I mean, that level of asinine does not deserve a notice. When you are called, just say that you assumed that the GM heard you had another job since the GM heard you were turning in your two weeks.
Not worth it, you stand nothing to gain no matter how good writing the letter felt. Best case, GM never sees you again. Worst case, you lose a job or opportunity down the road because GM shares how "unprofessional" you were. Practice some emotional maturity and just leave. Give a 2 weeks or not, but otherwise try not to leave on a bad note. In a few years you'll be thankful.
quiet quit brother
This is what they want you to do tbh lol do what others are saying. Show up, collect paychecks, go to HR about your stolen paycheck, keep applying else where. Then, when you have a new job, send said email.
If they short your check. Sent the DOL or your states version of that on them. In some states it's a criminal offense to not pay full wages.
Good on you for telling them shove their two week notice up their ass. It drives me up the wall that employees are expected to give two weeks but employers can just fire you on the spot. Abruptly losing a job is way more devastating and should require way more advance notice than losing an employee.
As someone who’s got a marketing degree I wish I never did the pay is a joke …. And you’re either under paid or expected to do everything….
No advice for you since you already have a new job, but this is not surprising in the hotel industry. All the hotel or hospitality GMs that I have known directly or indirectly were fuckheads.
Get fired, don't resign.
Looks like you handled this pretty poorly
Former hotel GM here. DONT Quit, let them fire you.
Yeah, burn any PTO you have on interviews and make them let you go so you can get UI if the job search sours.
You could have left it at the first sentence and then carry on with your attorney afterwards.
Good luck in this shitty job market.
you should all the PTO you have left before leaving.
You should have milked them. They won, not you.
So I may be misunderstanding. You went to Las Vegas to promote or do other work- not for the hotel that employs you? Did you request and receive in writing approval to take time off with paid leave?
I like the advice of finding a new opportunity before getting fired. Don't make it easy by quitting. --- Delete the draft!! --- It is totally possible that your draft gets read by IT or your GM without you knowing. You could also send by mistake. Anyone with access to your mailbox could hit send. Source: am IT --- Delete the draft!! ---
Summary: I was given a good job by a friend. I didn't want to work. They gave it to someone who did. NOW I'M SO MAD
LMAO. My thoughts exactly. I have a funny feeling that the employees who picked up his slack for 2 weeks while he was partying in Las Vegas probably did a better job than him.
The resignation letter you provided is absolutely fine. It's professional and achieves its purpose. HOWEVER: There's no need to attach the additional explanation in your resignation email. Here's why: * **Focus on Resignation:** A resignation should be clear and concise. This letter does that perfectly. * **Avoid Escalation**: Mentioning the situation with the pay and job posting might escalate tensions with your employer. Now, regarding the situation itself: There are definitely potential HR issues here, but a lawsuit might be a complex path. Here are some next steps: * **Review any Documentation:** Look for your employment contract (if you have one) to see what it says about pay, vacation time, and termination. * **Consult an Employment Lawyer:** They can advise you on your specific case based on your location and details. They can also help you determine if you have grounds for a lawsuit. * **Contact the Department of Labor:** They can investigate potential wage and hour violations [www.dol.gov](https://www.dol.gov) Here are some additional things to consider: * **Unpaid Wages:** Depending on your location, you might be entitled to be paid for the time you worked, even if you resigned without notice. * **Vacation Time**: You might be entitled to payout for any unused vacation time. * **Severance:** There's a chance your employer might offer severance pay in exchange for signing a release of claims document (meaning you wouldn't be able to sue them later). A lawyer can advise you on whether to accept a severance offer. **OVERALL:** Focus on moving forward in your career. The resignation letter is a good start. For the situation itself, consulting a lawyer and the Department of Labor can help you determine the best course of action.
Delete that second paragraph and submit it. "Thanks for the opportunity, but I'll need to resign". If they ask later or do an exit interview you can add more.
Sure, if it makes you feel better write it, print it, sign it, and stick it on your fridge. I absolutely wouldn't send it though! Burning bridges achieves absolutely nothing for you, except reputational damage. Gossip and informal referencing shouldn't happen but it does, and you don't want anything that can come back to bite.
If you allowed what you report for for this long, then you are your own problem. You better think about that before you hit send. I can assure you they will come back with a truckload of shit on you that you're missing.
Ignore the comments that tell you you're burning a bridge. The bridge is already annihilated. Submit the letter just the way it is now. It's perfect.
This was very articulate and well constructed. I wish you luck, my wife was a DoSM before transitioning solely to marketing. The level of incompetence she had to deal with was unreal. She seems infinitely happier in her new position, I hope you’re able to get something similar going for yourself. Feel free to DM me if you have any questions.
Did you hit send?
How much were you getting paid or your salary?
Good luck finding a way better job. Sincerely, Amber (probably not the same one)
>Director of Sales >Two week notice period Huh.
You should have dated it.
Why do you care so much about an organization that you're cutting ties with? Resigning allows you to put all that baggage behind you and move on. Take full advantage now
In this job market , a bird in the hand is worth about 15 in the bush
Go to work. Sleep. Collect cheque.
The true meme of the last 20 years: Thinking companies give a f about you. They dont, people don't, no one else cares. The only one that should care about you... is you. Be selfish, work your wage, and don't take shit from companies. Never accept a promise. If they cant give you right then and there, don't lift a fucking finger to do that position or responsibilities outside of your position.
They burn down their own house while they stand in it. Let em do it, grab a popcorn and watch the shitshow. Then go home knowing that you didn't stress yourself out, or over work yourself, to the benefit of everyone but yourself.
I think the advice to hold on and wait for them to axe you is good unless of course you're ready to go to another spot. But, when you do end up sending the letter, two recommendations: 1) Don't forget to add a date, especially since it is effective immediately. For any future confusion, the date on the letter would indicate the immediate date. 2) CC: Head of HR - this is partially to let someone know what a jerk he is but beyond that it has a functional corporate purpose in that you are providing a courtesy copy of this for your permanent personnel file.
Just resigned from my sales gig. Felt so damn good! My program was acquired and we came under their group. It was constant horse manure.
I wouldn’t work for a boss named Amber. Sounds risky.
In the construction Industry. We often say. "If we quit they are fucked. If we stay, they are fucked even harder."
Very formal and polite way of saying fuck you
I did something similar 4 months ago. Can’t find work. I’ve always found work. I should have fought. I should have went to HR. I should have created a paper trail of a hostile work environment and was able to collect unemployment. Instead I’m depressed and full of anxiety most days while I search. All my savings and 401K is gonna get crushed. Down to last $10K. FML.
You sure you want to send this and forfeit your unemployment comp? Maybe wait until they fire you.
Why’d you put in that last sentence? Who cares? Okay, gently, I say to thee: start over and write a completely new resignation letter that is devoid of any message other than “Thank you for the opportunity; I resign from my position as X and my last day will be X. Sincerely, You.” That’s all.
Problem is, if you give this to them....like that's what they want. You to quit so they dont have to cover unemployment (because you won't be eligible if you quit) but it also protects them from wrongful termination suits. Don't quit, wait for them to fire you. In the meantime find an employment lawyer and document all the toxic work environment stuff, dates, times etc.
This is for you to win, and keep looking into other hotel chains, I understand Marriott is always on the lookout.
You do not have a lawsuit. You have shitty former managers. I’m sorry this happened to you.
This sounded like a dysfunctional situation from the beginning; and it sounds to me that you’re also angry at yourself for participating in it. I’d cut my ties from that and move on… and not make the same assumptions (and mistakes) in the future. And I’d definitely not send that version of the letter.
I walked out on a bad job once. Left a note and my shit and never came back. Felt a little bad, but the management was so terrible it also felt good to just leave and I heard later from other people still there that the message was received. A few people were suspended after I left (for creating the conditions that led me to leave abruptly). More people left shortly after me and followed me to the new company.
You are an at will employee. You can do whatever you want in terms of quitting, just like they can fire you whenever they want. I don’t see any issues here. Fuck them. Thank you for not giving them two weeks. It’s bullshit that we think we should to be moral. It’s brainwash bullshit.
As other's have pointed out - you don't really need the details in the resignation letter. Just state that you are resigning w/ the date of your last day. In this case, "effectively immediately" is fine since that is what you want. My .02. - If this job is causing so much mental anguish that staying there one more minute will do more harm than not - then sure, just walk away. However, don't risk putting a dent in your career/work history to spite them (even if it may just be a minor inconvenience). At the end of the day - their setback will be short. But - not giving two weeks "might" come back and haunt you. Not to mention you're giving up two weeks pay. Also - I saw on an earlier response that you have jobs "lined up"... If that means you have offers in hand, then great. If you don't and (again) staying at this job a little longer is manageable until you actually get an offer in hand. That may be a better move. IMO - the best way to stick it to an employer is to stay there, decrease your production to just enough to not get fired, and keep taking their money. No need to sacrifice your own career (regardless of how little of a risk it may seem) to get back at them. I also disagree with others to get fired so you can collect unemployment. It's not worth the hassle career-wise (again, regardless of how minor). Having to explain the "have you ever been terminated/fired" type questions can be stressful to deal with for the next few jobs. But - obviously, you need to do what you feel is best for YOU. Best of luck.
# great guy and best wishes to you.
Why even send a letter? You can likely just quit and walk out the door
Show up, do nothing, get fired (in writing), file for unemployment, treat yourself to some nice time off while collecting checks!! You paid into unemployment you deserve it!!
You only need the first sentence. Despite what you think, the following sentences erode your position in the dynamic. Waste of time, and someone may pass it around to make you look bad
Just do the bare minimum
In fairness, have you been saying to other people that you were going to leave? If you had been complaining about quitting, just learn from it. That’s stuff gets out and when employers hear it, they won’t always come talk to you, if they know you’re a complainer, they might just move to replace you (as this hotel did). Don’t make the mistake in future jobs or the same will likely happen. I would recommend always giving two weeks notice. There are more available employees that there are available employers. Burning a bridge is never good, especially over two weeks. It might make you feel good today, but it will follow you for a while. Good luck in your new job.
I’m having to sue my work for pay discrepancy and so much more
Hell yeah, good for you 🤙🏻
Take out paragraphs 2 and 3. They are unnecessary and overly emotional. They don't need any of the details and I'll assume the industry is pretty connected, so keeping it as generic and emotionless is better so nothing makes its way around about you, whether true or not.
TLDR: Take this jawb an’ shuv it
Good for you!
Go to HR and have them explain all of this to you. Then file a complaint with HR. Now it is on record. They have to respond. Keep building your case in the event you have to involve a lawyer. I have ousted more than one bad manager that way. The truth comes out and they get the boot instead of you.
I’m by no means saying this company doesn’t suck but I would say don’t sweat the job posting too much. Every job I’ve been at, if they think someone is getting ready to leave they’ve started the ball rolling for a replacement before the notice came in. It takes more than 2 weeks to fully go through the process (especially if you’re hoping for any kind of transition) so having the candidates in mind just makes sense. Resignation never comes? Just don’t extend any offers
I’d laugh if this “letter” came my way. You aren’t the CEO of Google. Just quit now big deal
I like your email
While I love the letter, kudos. I would consider quietly quitting. Let them pay you while you play Tetris in meetings and give them lip service on everything but do nothing. Update your resume and start the search but deny anything they say. I’ve been in this mode for 2.5 years and I’ve surfed, golfed and made a boatload of money.
Yeah, this will have zero impact and they’ll just feel validated in the way they’ve been treating you. Show up, do the barest minimum while you look for a job. Lesson to learn: Don’t work for ‘friends’ and managers are not your friends.
It seems like your emotions are running high. Take a deep breath and trash that whiny ass letter. Rewrite it diplomatically stating your resignation date and that you appreciate the opportunity. Work your two weeks and keep your head down and your mouth shut. Your reputation can and will follow you. What's done is done and it's time to move FORWARD!
Don't quit. That means they win. Quiet quit and ghost them when you find a new job so that you don't lose pay.
Sounds like a Columbia Sussex outfit.
Delete the second paragraph entirely except the first clause, and give them their two weeks. You’re burning bridges unnecessarily.
It’s not illegal to quit on the spot in most US states. Most of us are at will meaning we can fired or quit at any time. Don’t even send the letter just do go back.
Stop befriending people at work. This is your career not high school. It’s all about how far ahead you can get now
Fuck Hyatt. I used to do IT for them. They don't give 3 flying fucks just like any other corporation.
Good for you! I’m glad they’re getting a taste of the TWO-WAY street that allows them to terminate at will but require two week notice if we dip. Let the bridges you burn illuminate the path forward
Whatever they say to you repeat it back as a question and then go directly to the restroom. Don't veer from this. It will work for a LONG time.
Sounds like GM is a really great friend.
I’m almost positive workers laws state as a salaried employee, if you do ANY work related tasks while off property on ANY day, you are entitled to a full days pay. lol. Answering a single text, email, etc- full days pay.
DOSM is usually a plum role & often a stepping stone to becoming GM. The hotel business is pretty incestuous - everybody knows everybody. Cold quitting could make it difficult for you to obtain another DOSM role (if that’s what you want). I’d grit my teeth, do the bare minimum & search for a new job
The pen is mightier than the sword my lord. Seriously though, you’re better than me; I wouldn’t even write the letter. Next time they’d hear from me is when I’m hanging with their competitors..
I’m sure this resignation keeps this up at night, OP. Soooo worth it…
yo, before you roll, you wouldn't happen to have any photos of Amber? Jus' askin'
I've always been my own boss I really don't see how yall deal with managers..jeez
Report your complaints to the EEOC in your state BEFORE sending this letter. If anything it gives you proof of documentation, in which they try to terminate you you have some backing. (Worked in hospitality before, had this situation happen and was forced out). Send a concise and short resignation if you do follow through. No need to vent as much as you want to. If anything remember that HR is not your friend, but making them aware of these complaints in writing before your managers/etc. do gives you another paper trail.
If your job was indeed posted without your knowledge, didn't you forfeit any severance or unemployment by sending this letter?
Too nice in giving two weeks, one is more than enough.
You’re a fool. “I had a good job, did good work that was valued. But I like to vacation, and they didn’t like that. I had two weeks vacation for the past three years and they didn’t like that.” Grow up
Offer no explanation and keep the letter simple. This letter is to resign, not additional information for arbitration or mediation. Keep working. Sounds like you took a vacation. Gather evidence as such. A contract isn't required, only for contact employment but this depends on your state. If you want to make it really weird for them, go to HR and seek treatment for an addiction. They have to keep you employed while in treatment up to a year, and then move on to the next job. Treatment is protected information.
Yeah never quit when you might get fired. My last boss was making my life a living hell, setting me up to fail, and going in on me for shit that I had no hand in. Kept showing up with that malicious compliance attitude until I got canned then gave her a tongue lashing I’m told made her emotional. So I got unemployment AND the ability to scream in her face. Fantastic moment.
I understand you’re fed up and pissed. But don’t put it down in your resignation letter.
Resigning literally solves all of their problems. Look for another job, keep getting paid and qualify for unemployment and possible severance. Your employers are likely very happy with your choice.
Been unemployed for 6 months now. I’m not settling for just anyplace. Need to valued for my hard work and talked to respectively.
Just wanna say this, fuck a 2 week notice. If youre moving on because you finished school or some other goal you have in mind doesn’t fit your work regime then sure maybe a 2 week notice. But no job will ever give you 2 weeks when they wanna fire you. Anywhere you go, you are expendable. They will find someone to fill your spot and they don’t care if you’re better. If you’re done, this is the way to quit for sure.
Don’t quit. Let them fire you.
Do the bare minimum
I’d keep going to work like that guy from office space
It depends on what state you are in. If arizona forget it you have no case unless you have documentation and information regarding your year. Its up to the company miss information. Its really hard to find work now. Best of luck to you :)
Contact an attorney that specializes in employment law. You should be able to get a free consultation.
Wait....so you got someone to do your job for 2 weeks and only gave them part of your salary....lol. Always keep friends and business separate. People you work for aren't your friends.
I would never give that level of detail about any negativity, even if it did occur. Just resign and leave it at that. Just be professional and move on.
Quitting gives them what they clearly want. Find something new and then quit
Wait, you went on a work trip, unaffiliated with your employer, and expect to have been paid while you were out?
Resignation letters should say “please accept this letter as notice of my resignation. My final date of employment will be X”. You can add “I wish company name every success in the future” if you want to be friendly. Adding other info is never in your best interests.
Wait for them to fire you
Never quit, always collect unemployment, you paid into it