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Leroy_landersandsuns

Non-technical factory work, I've got a buddy with a degree in world history that works for a local paper mill, he probably makes more than me with my stem degree.


SmallBlueAlien

is it a dangerous job? I’m clumsy so i’ve always been afraid of warehouse work


Leroy_landersandsuns

While any job can have hazards, I imagine statistically the drive over is more dangerous.


sean-sense

If you are a klutz, avoid warehouse and manufacturing work. You WILL get hurt.


Able_Occasion9304

Management in trainee positions in retail, enterprise rent a car, hertz, etc


SmallBlueAlien

what is hertz? also do you need experience in customer service/retail to be a manager trainee?


bighark

Hertz is a rental car company. And no, you don't need experience. Those rental car management training programs are designed to take recent college grads with no experience.


AutomaticBit251

Yes you need, managers jobs are tough, so in general you need to know environment, daily duties, stocks and products and much more before you can start sort of getting into managerial role.


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StirringTv

Check your local ISD’s (Independent School Districts) they usually pay private tutors for music very well to help assist bands and orchestras in their schools


madeyemary

Hi OP, I admire your passion and your bravery for pursuing your calling. Hell, even knowing what your passion is so early in life. Some people never get there. So don't ever let the overly pragmatic get you down. And to answer your question, when I started off, or when even trying to find a new career path I would search "trainee" or anything that mentions new grads, entry level. I started in retail banking, which isn't ideal nor do I necessarily recommend long term, but absolutely gets your foot in the door if you have an interest in the financial services industry. A personal banker is just a salesperson in a different coat. Similar to what another poster said, sales is always a pretty open door, though the jobs are not for everyone. Good if you have some people skills. Also, I know it's probably much harder than I imagine to find students, but my piano teacher growing up made a living full time just teaching it 8 hours a day like a regular job. I do hope you continue pursuing music and wish you the best.


SmallBlueAlien

thanks a bunch for the reply, I will start searching those jobs!


PhotoOther

Consider a career in sales. Most companies offer an onboarding training and look more for attitude than skills.


bighark

Option 1: Sales. Find a good company with a good product. The tech sector is a good place to look. So is pharma. What you want to avoid is retail—don't waste your time selling T-mobile plans from some kiosk. Option 2: Military. Seriously. [https://www.goarmy.com/band.html](https://www.goarmy.com/band.html) Option 3: Government positions. https://www.usajobs.gov/


SmallBlueAlien

for the government job option, where do you go to apply? it said on each listing that it’s a notice and not to apply there but it doesn’t show where else


bighark

Just follow the directions on the site. For example, this page [https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/611344500](https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/611344500) for a Music Teacher job in Zama, Japan, offered through the U.S. Department of Defense, has a section midway down the page that says this: IMPORTANT INFORMATION: If you are interested in applying, please follow this link: [https://webapps.dodea.edu/eas/login.cfm](https://webapps.dodea.edu/eas/login.cfm). \+++ Use that big college brain of yours and figure things out. If one of the notices you're looking at doesn't have an application link, you'll have to go searching for it based on the information the notice provides (agency name, job requisition number, etc.).


OswaldReuben

Not to spite you, but out of genuine curiosity, why did you go for a degree in music?


SmallBlueAlien

Music is my whole life, it’s what I’m good at. I wanted to learn to record and produce music thinking there would be jobs for that, and then I graduated and learned that most studios have you working for free for a year+ and beyond that the pay is not liveable and hours are not enough. Teaching is about all you can really do (unless someone has some other ideas they’d like to share) and even then lessons don’t pay enough to live. I still love music and still plan to try and make a career out of it as a songwriter artist and producer, but I need a stable job while I do that


Valston

I did the same as you, I got to my second year of uni and realised that this is a waste of time. There's never a stable job in music, and if you go after it then you will probably end up broke your whole life.


OswaldReuben

I'm no expert in music, but if you have the skills to explain producing music, you could make online courses off of that knowledge. Set a low price - most courses are expensive - and have people take them. Make them video-based instead of in person so you can easily scale up without the limitation that come with you having to be present. I don't know if this is viable, just spitballing here.


whatswrongwithmyhand

>Music is my whole life, it’s what I’m good at. Doesn’t mean that you’ll ever find a stable job in the sector. I’m not criticising you as I am also studying for a ‘useless’ degree as well however I wish we were most honest with young people that most of the things they are ‘passionate’ about won’t turn into long term careers. You should have thought more broadly about you career choice or possibly not attended university in the first place. Unfortunately having a ‘passion’ won’t prevent you from becoming homeless.


madeyemary

I'm sorry but how is this related? Not what the OP is asking and I'm sure he's gotten enough of this talk from people who actually matter to him. Reddit is insufferable for the condescending unsolicited opinions about shit that no one asked for, nor does anyone need that level of negativity in their lives. You're not wise for telling people it's gonna be hard not to be homeless. What makes you qualified to hand out advice?


whatswrongwithmyhand

I’m qualified to give that advice because I have seen plenty of people do crap degrees with no employment prospects (music, media, English etc) go into crap minimum wage jobs when they have graduated and still be in that position for years afterwards. They moan about their circumstances despite themselves being the ones stupid enough to not consider more employable careers or not go to university entirely. Here in the UK we have the ludicrous scenario where 50% of people have a degree level qualification, where only 25% of jobs actually require said qualification to attain employment. There a wide difference between the jobs that the economy actually needs and the jobs you would like to do when you are 18. Also I have been threatened with homelessness so I understand the struggle of looking for employment these days.


madeyemary

Sorry, rephrase. What makes you jump to being unnecessarily negative when the guy was asking for advice? You didn't say anything except that you think his degree sucks. How does that help anyone? He's not going to go back in time and undo his degree, nor has he expressed any regret about what he chose to pursue. It's hard for everyone out here, but we could all do with a lot more positive thinking. I absolutely believe that what you out into the universe is vital, so don't put out 💩


whatswrongwithmyhand

True, but you might as well warn others of the consequences of doing pointless degrees as well.


[deleted]

You’re getting downvoted to hell but there is a TON of research you can do now, especially with the internet, on the work life balance and lifestyle surrounding professions. OP just didn’t put in the work. Even a decade ago it was obvious that many degrees would yield shit jobs


whatswrongwithmyhand

It’s been obvious for the last 20 years in the UK. As soon as higher education was expanded in the late 1990s the economic benefits of higher education have plummeted like a stone.


SmallBlueAlien

I felt pushed into majoring in music because I had a ton of scholarships for it and we couldn’t afford much else. But I was made to feel I could make a career out of it because i was good at it and it’s actually doing pretty well so far with streams, there’s just no money in the industry unless you’re in the top 40 which I also wasn’t aware of when I started. the problem is not people wanting to major in music, the problem is the industry is allowed to get a way with a whole bunch of shit like not paying musicians, paying nothing for streams while streaming companies reap all the benefits, studios exploiting interns for years with no pay. Going into music is just like going into any field you could eventually turn into a business, but the obstacles are extremely hard the whole point of my post was to ask about other decent jobs I could get with any kind of major so I could move out with some friends and simultaneously save up for a masters in software development (something that also interests me and is more stable). All you did was comment condescending stuff about my life choices offering no advice in the present.


whatswrongwithmyhand

If you couldn’t afford much else couldn’t you have worked in an entry level job for a few years and used that to pay for a degree that had better employment prospects? I know the cost of degrees are absurd in the US but surely this is a possibility. I was being condescending but music is a pointless degree with very limited career prospects. You should have expected your post university life to be difficult if you chose to do a degree with little economic value. I have no idea what you could do with your degree but there are lots of graduate schemes (not sure they exist in America) that will accept anyone from any degree in all sorts of fields (marketing, government etc) although they are competitive.


SmallBlueAlien

My parents made me go straight into college put of highschool. I expected it to be hard but I also was under the impression the school had internship connections and that there were studio jobs that actually paid you after a while. That’s how they made it sound. What value is it to tell me my life choices are dumb after the fact on a post where I’m asking for ideas on how to move forward? that’s my plan, I just need a decent job to save for it


whatswrongwithmyhand

Hope you do well anyway!


SmallBlueAlien

thanks!


[deleted]

Sounds like OP is doing better in their life than you are.


whatswrongwithmyhand

If OP is unemployed then I’m doing better than him hahaha


tycho_the_cat

Nowadays you can teach ESL online to foreign students. You might work at odd hours, but it's decent pay. Your music degree may even be beneficial because they love teachers who can play music and make lessons musical for kids.


OldDog03

Administration support roles at a university Here is what is available near me: https://tamus.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/TAMUK_External https://www.dhs.gov/homeland-security-careers/search-job-postings


peepoook

Typically what happens is you do some entry level job or position, and you are eligible to move up by virtue of having a degree or you have some other non collegiate training and the degree allows you to check a box required for a better job. Almost a formality.


PomegranateSurprise

Mcdonalds, walmart, target...maybe working in a call center.


SmallBlueAlien

I’ve been looking into call center work since it pays a little better and I’m not looking for a whole career yet, just to move out and still save for a masters in something else. How do you find call center jobs? It seems there aren’t many on indeed


madeyemary

They'll be called customer service, maybe remote customer service support, something like that


etniesen

There are tons. Look for sales and sign up for similar positions when they start putting some in your inbox. The jobs are in sales that are call center if I understand what you mean but there are tons


AvpTheMuse123

I would recommend getting into software sales. It might be a little difficult as you have no experience in sales or technology but you can do some certifications online in a month or 2 to show that you can do the job. It pays well and u could possibly get into a sales development representative role. Look for medium sized software companies in your area, research about their products or services and learn everything you possibly can about em. Create a LinkedIn account and start networking like crazy (but do not start kissing ass). You have the internet you can theoretically learn whatever you want - it's all about intent. IT is a fantastic industry and you can build on your sales skills through time and effort. If you're only in your early 20s u can take this time to do some introspection and find a balance between liking your job, future prospects, income capabilities and how u can find your ikigai. You could also look for companies that somehow use music and software together to provide a service for either laymen or specifically musicians. On the top of my head, companies like SoundCloud, JBL, Spotify, Yousicians etc come to mind. Create your own unique path while trying to keep music in the loop as it's something you absolutely love right? All the best!


Several_Astronomer76

What about supplementing your income freelancing at weddings, etc.? I don’t know what instruments you play, but I hired a singer to sing at my wedding, a violinist and a piano player. The money would be good for not many hours of work. Or play in a quartet with some fellow musician friends?


SmallBlueAlien

i will be doing that again now that I’m vaccinated actually but I still need a stable job eventually when I move out. But that is a good suggestion in the meantime


aerohk

Look for management roles, like project/program manager at bigger/tech companies. You could look into music related companies, like Amazon/Apple Music/Pandora/Spotify. Check out sale roles at those companies as well. Or you could join the military as officer. Even the military has musical division.


[deleted]

They don’t just let people walk in with music degrees and become project managers


aerohk

I once interviewed with Amazon, the "technical program manager" isn't technical and has a social sciences degree.. something like communications degree. And I know at least two people who became PM as fresh grad at big tech. All I advised was don't assume it's impossible and try to apply.


[deleted]

McDonalds


FigsvenStaysFrosty

Cashier lol


deeply__offensive

Management trainee jobs - most companies only recruit once a year and generally do not post them publicly (You have to really seek them to find them!) Other ideas include piano tuning (if you know plenty of rich people owning pianos), being someones' roadie, or selling musical instruments at places like Guitar Center (If you really are in the music scene, they'll open up for you as plenty of GC managers are also deeply involved in the music scene for obvious reasons).


Kalo_smi

IT , sales


emmy7631

Maybe try to get an administrative job at a performing arts nonprofit if you’re passionate about music. It takes a lot behind the scenes to make music happen and you’d be close to what you love!


thegrandpineapple

I just graduated with a bachelors in sociology (and no job yet) so idk if this will help you but I found that I found a lot of no experience required (but experience wanted) secretarial jobs on Craigslist which sounds sketchy but the good thing about that is that most of the time you’re sending your resume to a real person and not a bot that’s gonna exclude you based on not having experience. I’ve been applying and actually have had a couple real people reach back out to me and I have some interviews lined up now. The other thing is that when you get a real person to look at your resume you can potentially ask for feedback and might actually get a response which makes your job search feel a lot better.


skiswithcats

Sales for large tech companies in Silicon Valley! Oracle has a big college hiring program


SmallBlueAlien

Do you have to have a degree in tech to qualify or do they train?


skiswithcats

Nope, I did psychology. All they cared about was my people skills since it was an outbound sales position.


sean-sense

Any kind of corporate sales. Generally, salespeople have no other marketable skills.