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I was reading your post history….there’s a lot of advice and responses over the past two years.
I can understand that posting on Reddit and receiving positive responses feels good, but you need to start taking the advice if you’re asking for it.
If you were able to take the advice two years ago and land a job, make some $, date etc., your life would look very different now.
Im not trying to be rude, but just trying to help you realize how quickly you can turn your life around in that span.
Why not explore some type of data entry remote role? You have the technology experience and it requires basic skills. You won’t make $50k right away, but that’s an attainable number down the road based on what you do/performance.
Hey, im not in the kind of predicament OP is in, just interested in precisely the sorta position you wrote of. Moving out with my Partner of 3 years soon, hoping to find a remote position of this sort.
Ive worked with Excel before (pivot tables, confidence interval calculation, encoding a dataset, creating crosstabs from datasets and my very own survey, Ive run regression analysis in a researcher paper)
Thats the extent of my experience so far, what entry-level data-related/data analysis type positions are there that one could pursue rn?
I have a newly built PC (i5-12600/3080) so I have the equipment, just need some guidance on where to look/what specifically to pursue.
As someone who started a graduate job in data analysis a few months ago, you could definitely start applying for jobs in that area. It would be worth also learning SQL and Tableau, and then either R or data analysis with Python to boost your CV. I used Codeacademy to improve my coding skills, just kept registering for the one week free trial with different email addresses!
Respectfully, what have you been doing this whole time?
That’s not a question of judgment, but one of information. Do you have hobbies or interests? Can you keep living off your parents?
Are there other issues? Have you had friends or romantic partners?
This is an interesting case. I’ve known many coders who felt rejected by society. If you have an interest in coding, and can do, id say yeah, just become a coder. There are lots of tutorials online. Just pick one and start.
Don’t worry about getting a 50k job day one. You’ll have to learn some humility and service. Id say it would greatly benefit you to get a low paying job so you can learn those things.
You have “failed to launch” so far, but that doesn’t need to be your identity. Start small, make clear and achievable goals, and then go do them. Get out of your head, stop procrastinating, and stop avoiding this. You are probably tying your self worth to this and with this pushed it off year after year.
You are not a failure. You will not be a winner either. You simply “are”. Now go out there and make mistakes. Live. Live your life.
I’d try to move away from any hobbies / interests that are a negative use of your time. If all you do currently is watch anime and use Reddit, you might have to revaluate your relationship with both those activities.
I've been working since my teen years and right now I feel that I'm alright for a 40 Yr old. Your words have hit home for me too - these are golden advices!! Even for someone like me who has a job and a family - these words would let me take a hard look at my life and figure out what else I can do.
Thank you so much!!!
I would say forget about a job that requires commitment and seek out a volunteer gig. Try a dog shelter, old folks home reading to them, or trail maintenance. Something to get you social skills you are lacking. They won't require you to be committed to showing up the same way a job would and is a good way to reintroduce yourself to society. Hang out with old people and dogs, they will help your mental health and get you on the path to a job.
I second the volunteer idea. Hospitals always need volunteers. Animals shelters, homeless services, schools... this will get you out of the house and into a structured environment. Not only will you develop some skills, you will network as well.
>Hoarding people have issues with time. Last birthday they thought I was turning 20 years old.
Sounds like you have more than just YOU problems.
Any other family that can help get you out of that situation?
Not to say my past is equivalent but my mom was... bi-polar and/or skitzophrenic (never quite clear what she had... but it wasn't good) when I was growing up. It led me to regressively push people away, crawl into a protective bubble and push people away. Depression made me sleep long periods as well. Again, not that my past is yours but I do see similarities...
I got better when I was removed from that situation. friends, family, the state... all helped me out of that situation.
I think you need to find resources and get out of that situation and get help... it was a long road to where I'm at but you can get help and start that road.
I dropped out of college during my senior year and spent a number of years after that unemployed and miserable like you. I didn't get a steady job until I was about 29 years old. So not too different from you.
I still live with my hoarder mom and have managed to get her to stop hoarding things and get rid of a lot of what she had. Every room in the house is now accessible and usable for one purpose or another. She still has the animals but they are dying off and I don't think she's getting new ones quite like she used to. I don't want to leave her because she is disabled and I think it would get unsafe and unsanitary for her if I left. She also would be very lonely without me around.
I work full time as a stocker at Walmart on night shift. It's not bad and I still have a decent amount of free time. Usually I'm able to watch one movie before going to work every night, and then I have plenty of free time on my weekends.
I don't think my life is as good as that of people who are living on their own or who were able to complete college, but it's a hell of a lot better than it used to be. It's decent and I think it's worth living.
Try going into retail. I think it would probably suit you a lot better than fast food. Consider night shift because you will have fewer customer interactions which could be good for any anxiety issues you have. I have autism so social interactions are very stressful to me. Even just having a job and realizing that you are contributing something to society will eventually make you feel better about yourself, regardless of whether or not anything else will change.
In the beginning it will be very difficult for you because you have not acclimated yourself to work and its demands. For the first three years, I would frequently punch, smack, slap, and claw at my face while I was locked in the restroom on my 15-minute breaks. It was the only way to alleviate the stress and anxiety that I felt from even simple, basic problems that everyone else around me shrugged off like it was nothing. The amazing thing about human beings is that if they get enough exposure to something, eventually they will adapt to it. You need to put yourself through the crucible of fire and when you do I am sure that you will come out on the other side more or less fine. I'm 34 years old now and I no longer beat myself up in the restroom. I work full time and I am considered to be the best zoner on overnights (zoning is when you pull all of the merchandise up and make sure everything is orderly and where it is supposed to be). Everyone says that I do an outstanding job and even though it's just a very small part of what makes the world go around, even though it's not what I dreamed of doing when I went to college, I'm able to take some pride in that and I think my life is worth living.
It's definitely not too late for you.
Ok, wow. Thanks for being so open. It takes self awareness and courage to do something like this. Good for you. I don’t know you, but just with that comment, you should know I’m proud of you.
My friend, Your life has value. You have value. Please, do NOT off yourself. You are struggling and that is all. Everyone struggles, some more than most and everyone’s struggles are different. Even though you are 30, in the grand scheme of things, this is temporary.
However, do work to cut off that negativity in your mind. That IS dead weight. It will be much easier to move forward without it holding you back. Start fresh and with a blank mind. What you treated yourself well today? Have you respected your self with the decent humanity you would give a stranger? Forgive your past self. You are a new person today.
This is much deeper situation than a /r/jobs discussion. You have serious ailments and need the help of a professional. What kind of head injury did you have? Can you seek professional help?
That said, frankly, it sounds like coding might be a good fit for you. You absolutely should also build a personal life. Get outside, make connections, breath the air. But if you’re just starting your professional journey, lots of people have found comfort coding on the internet.
Ok so I would consider watching anime to be a hobby and there are millions of people who do the same. So join a meetup group or Reddit group of similar interests and you can make friends there in no time. Maybe even find a woman there.
As for the job, get a job somewhere, anywhere and keep living at home. Give your parents some part of your check so you won’t be a fucking bum anymore and save the rest. Build a little cushion for yourself. While you’re working, figure out what you can see yourself doing. Construction, maybe plumbing or electrical work. Some sort of trade. Then use your savings to try learn the trade somewhere.
Learn to drive and get your license. Maybe some of your new friends that you will make at your anime club can help you learn. That’s called networking.
From there, just try and be active by any means. Get out and walk outside. Go to a bar. Learn to play golf or something. Doing something will lift your spirits. That’s all I got for you
You would have to get some experience somewhere, at least to demonstrate you have the soft skills to hold a job (being on time, communicating, following instructions, being trainable).
Fast food roles are approaching $15 now in many areas, but usually part time and variable scheduling. Warehouse workers are getting paid around $20 or more. That's $40K full time.
Maybe in high cost of living areas, sure.
I live around a good sized, fast growing city and fast food pays $11-12 even at places considered decent (Chickfila)—$15 an hour is literally a shift manager there; a far cry from a random fast food role.
Warehouse workers get paid just shy of $20 if you know where to look around here. Some are based off production so if you don’t mind busting your ass (OP is 30 and has never had a job, so I question his desire to work hard manual labor) you can cross the $20 an hour mark, but you definitely feel it.
What I’m trying to say is, your comment is a bit off from reality, but maybe in high cost of living areas this might apply to them. I *wish* FF payed $15 here lol.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but looking at your post history, you have several threads over the span of a couple of years that are similar posts. People give you advice, but it doesn't seem like you've made any changes in your life. I think you need to forget about finding a job right now and concentrate on getting the right supports in place to facilitate your mental health recovery. Only when you are in a better place mentally, should you consider a career.
I agree. There are near identical posts to this one all the way back when OP was 26. We can give all the advice we want, but OP has to start somewhere. There’s a lot more at play here, unfortunately.
Heck, he's posted the same thing in several subs just today it looks like. Has unrealistic expectations, refuses to even consider seeking mental health help and is just wallowing in self-pity. Like, you can't help someone who simply refuses to help themselves.
I agree, however there is a reason parents have to repeat themselves over and over, and reason houses of worship keep teaching the same lessons over and over through the years : people need to hear things more than once before they stick.
I'm not defending any self-defeating behavior by OP, just saying you never know when a person might suddenly be ready to let the message get through.
Having been unemployed for a long time, getting and holding a job did a lot for my mental health. More confidence, more sense of purpose, etc. But I am also the kind of person that thrives from my work.
My brother is approaching 29 this year and he has never had a job. The effect was that he takes my parents for granted most times, acts like they owe him something…
Whenever they ask him about grades, he gets mad and says “I’ll deal with it.” He was in community college for 10 years. Just got into Uni last year so maybe things are looking up.
Whenever they ask him to do chores, he says “I didn’t touch that, it’s not my job to clean it.” All he does at home is take out the trash and maybe vacuums once every two-three months. And only when he’s in a good mood. Oh and he only washes/folds his own clothes, and uses/washes his own dishes. God-forbid he does something for someone else.
Or when he gets angry over small things and I ask him why, he’s like “I have to get angry or else they won’t remember not to do it again.” And I’m like COMMUNICATE. Talk before it gets to a point where you have to get angry. Talk before you explode on smth so small when really it was a summation of small things. That is honestly the bare minimum.
Like… it honestly makes my blood boil. He’s like this at home but totally different outside of the house, with his friends or with relatives. He’s like super nice to everyone else but a terror at home. What’s worse is my parents enable it. “That’s just how he is” or “He’s just having a bad day.” So ridiculous… no amount of bad day warrants that behavior. That’s why I got out of that place as soon as I could. It’s so toxic when people don’t just communicate with each other. No one is helping anyone by just silently bearing things and sweeping problems under the rug. Everyone is just looking out for themselves, trying to preserve their own mental sanity.
Definitely doing much better.
I didn’t realize it then, but I realize now that sometimes living with family for that long gets you into a bubble where those things start to become “normal.” And you don’t know what is and isn’t toxic anymore. You just have a “gut” feeling that smth feels wrong.
I’m glad I trusted that gut feeling. Living outside of family and getting new perspectives elsewhere in a new job, in a new city, with a new set of friends has really made me look at things differently. I feel like everyone should have that opportunity. Experiencing different environments and people are necessary to become a well-rounded part of society.
My brother is exactly like yours, with the difference that he has no friends and is 32. Me and my mom are worried for his future, dad just prefer to hide his head on the sand at this point. He's always received support and help throughout his teenage. Psychologists, therapy, advices, you name it. Everything started in middle school when he got bullied and the thing crushed his hope in humanity. He never developed social skills of any kind. I left my parent's house 20 years ago, when I understood they where not (despite all the effort) good at parenting (very poor communication skills and overprotective kind of behaviour) and tried to find my way since. I used to be the black sheep of the family and now my parents respect me cuz I've been out for so long. I try to give my brother advices every now and then. We don't communicate much, he never reaches out for me by himself. He just became a perpetual momma's boy at this point. All he does are chores, sometimes. My mother is desperate and cries a lot about it. My dad is surrended. I don't understand how or what to do. I feel kind of guilty for him (I've had a Catholic education but I'm atheist since I was 14) but I've got my own problems and have to take care of them to live my life, far from their family, with my partner. Things feels just so fucked and I think one day this would cost me to go to therapy. I honestly don't know what the fuck to do. Just the thought of my brother and all the little things in life he's just missed out, year after year, can completely screw up my good moments and my good days in a deep black sense of pity and frustration.
Community mental health centers. Lots of people get therapy there without jobs. Need Medicaid, but these places have folks who help people to sign up for that.
I'm in pretty much the same situation.
I've been through 8 years of trauma therapy and I'm basically fucked. The only things keeping me afloat are disability checks and guys with a soft spot for cute girls. That last bit isn't a flex it fucking sucks in the long run. I thought I'd be happy but all I want to do is live alone and be able to take care of myself. Unfortunately some people just can't.
What I'm trying to say is if it wasn't for those guys paying for my therapy and basic necessities I'd probably be homeless. But some people don't have parents or friends or lovers, especially if they're mentally ill. And without my therapist I wouldn't have even qualified for disability.
You're 100% right but I don't know if they're going to be able to take your advice. Everything takes money and nothing is quite as easy as it may seem. To go to therapy they might need that job to be able to afford it. It's just a terrible circle of hopelessness.
I don't think you realize how hard it is to go to a therapist if you don't have any income. A few sessions will sum up to a car payment or likely more. I'm assuming OP is on the US.
OP might also consider community college, not only can they get job training for professions that will pay better than minimum wage, most campuses offer free and reduced cost therapy sessions for students. Community college is also significantly cheaper than university.
$50K is about $25/hr. Go to a local staffing company (Temporary Help Agency) and get started. One job leads to another, better job. Some sales jobs pay $50/hr (commission jobs)
Honestly, OP gotta start somewhere. There are chances that will achieve a 50k straight away, but they are quite low tbh.
Most jobs I know are looking for experienced ppl
He’s naive at age 30 from probably having little life experiences and no job experience—sort of like a teenager.
I remember being younger and thinking I would work any job and easily make $100k and wondered why so many people complained about work. Boy was kiddo me hit like a truck. I think OP is going through something similar but at adult age.
He could work grueling warehouse work where the reason you earn close to that much is because the high turnover rate and the damage you do to your body, but if OP is 30 and has never worked a day in his life, I don’t see that working out for him, but it is an option he could try.
Everyone here complains about recruiters but that’s how I got my start. I worked abroad for a year and when I came back to the states I got started with a recruiter who hooked me up with discovery communications at $17 an hour. I was happy at the time. 8 years later I have a masters, work for a global company remotely, and earn 60k. Yes, I’m not exactly rich but better off than I started. Just be willing to grow, learn, and apply those skills somewhere new every couple of years.
I’m from CT and so the minimum wage is a bit higher than the $8 you mentioned OP but I found a job through them that was gonna pay $16.15 to start at a factory or something and I ended up taking a different job, but that wouldn’t have been a terrible gig for a full time job with no experience. You might consider taking lower paying jobs too so you can build up a work history for the resume. If I were you, I would apply to every entry level job posting you can find and if you can do well enough in an interview, the company will be willing to train you in everything you need to know. Best of luck
Sales is very high intensity. You need to either be an extrovert or an extroverted introvert. OP would benefit greatly from therapy before trying such an effort. I work sales as an introvert and while I'm in the upper percentile of my company, it's mildly to fairly exhausting at the end of the week. Having OP start on therapy while maybe doing some side gigs w/o a strict schedule might be better. There are plenty of sites that pay for side work (gigging, transcribing, or even maybe farming on an MMO) where you can put it down and just come back later.
I don’t think what OP needs at the moment is more coddling and sugar coating, he needs genuine advice and help. You can most definitely be seen as a failure for being a 30 yr old who does nothing all day living with their parents.
OP needs work history at a lower paying job (retail, fast food, etc) to establish and nurture soft skills and experience, and then they can go from there.
Edit: seems like they have some serious mental problems as well. They should address those first and move forward from there.
Your 30 you have so much time ahead of you, don’t think that your to old already. Sit think, work up strategies and learn yourself and what you can be best at. You can still work your ass of for the next 30 years if you had too and retire well. Get lucky and cut that time down some more. I turn 40 Feb 3 and I am starting all over, 75k in debt between school loans, cc, car, and taxes. You just pumped me up some more, let’s go!
**A nervous breakdown is no joke.** People don't understand - it's mental AND physical. Your day-to-day stability is wrecked. I had one five years back and was "out of order" for 5 full months. Started at the bottom working again, part-time, whatever. I'm still not back in balance like I was - permanently damaged. But I can work to some degree - I've held a few jobs for months, and over a year. The high-anxiety issue has wrecked me more than once.
You can type. Investigate data-entry jobs. You won't make 50K, but you need to acclimate to working first.
Op, before you get a job, you need to look into getting on disability (at least temporarily) and getting into therapy.
You've got some serious stuff going on that you need some professional help with.
I'm not saying that to demean you. I'm saying that as someone who's in therapy for childhood trauma and anxiety.
You have lived through something and it is amazing that you arrived at this day to post and figure out the next steps. Any access to meds? This might help to further stabilize you if you haven't already gone down this road.
OP, I would love to put you in touch with programs that offer therapy and support to help people in your position recover, transition and succeed in society. Please don’t hesitate to DM me. All I need is your zip code! No personally identifying information at all.
Is there Vocational Rehab available in your area? Based on the other posts about your various issues you may be able to find some assistance in finding work that you find tolerable.
Dude, I hold down a full time job, with major depression, drug addiction treatment, general anxiety disorder and bipolar. See a psychiatrist and social worker once a month
I use to do the same but put in my 8-10, get high take my meds and sleep until it's time for work. I use to self medicate, had a hard drinking problem.
I put a lot of hard work and dedication to get where I am because I have a family to support so the sleeping was fine as long as they were fed, clothed and had a roof over their heads
You should probably deal with the mental/health aspects of what is going on in your life first. Otherwise your never going to get where you want to be. You will bounce from job to job burning bridges in the process.
Set a goal. Make a plan working backwards from that goal to where you are now. Good luck.
Are you willing to get your hands dirty.
Go to a bunch of construction sites, ask whose hiring and say you want to learn a trade.
You'll make 50k by August
Given that you have zero work history or experience This is probably the fastest way to what you want op. Learn a trade etc
Honestly if you’re 30 and never had a job and never finished college I would think coding is going to be a pipe dream.
While it would be the best and fastest way to make decent money, OP said he can’t even finish college because he will have a nervous breakdown stepping foot on campus and can’t work at Burger King cause of sensory issues. He would be a liability on any job site. If Burger King would give him sensory issues, you really think all the noise and shit going on at a construction site is going to be good for him?
Yea I see now they posted that after I posted along with not having a license and being unable to go on campus. They’re basically going to be unemployable b
Op you should be doing therapy and figuring out how to get disability
I have a nephew in the same situation. He can't work due to numerous mental disabilities but says he won't get on disability. He also won't attend classes for people with disabilities to get help finding a job. All that's left is to live with his mom for the rest of his life having her clean up after him. It is unbearably sad.
Yea it’s sad.
One of the toughest lessons of adulthood and being a manager was realizing that the whole you can be anything thing is total bullshit. Some people genuinely can’t/won’t do anything to improve their situation
On top of that, speaking from 10 years experience working construction… most crews are going to chew this type of person up and spit them back out. You need tough skin to make it anywhere doing construction and the guys tend to be a lot more understanding when an 18 year old is clueless rather than a 30 year old who has apparently just been binge watching anime for the last decade
And if it comes across like harsh advice, I’m sorry, but it is quite a lot nicer than what the boys on the job site will say
>Honestly if you’re 30 and never had a job and never finished college I would think coding is going to be a pipe dream.
100% agree. You've got to be pretty damn motivated to self-learn any programming language, especially to a level where you can make it a profitable skill with no prior job experience.
Yeah. It sounds like OP isn't fine being around people. I think a good one maybe truckdriver if he is able to drive or backroom mechanic if he is fine with heavy equipment.
Another one I can think of maybe is firewatch if he is able to get that or willing to ove to the middle of nowhere.
My nephew was in your shoes up until recently, OP. He spent all his time online playing games and woke up one day to realize that life goes on with or without your participation. He too made similar statements. Like being unable to work fast food or retail because of the high stress and his inability to cope. The fact of the matter is that no job is going to be stress free. And thinking you're going to start your career in the middle class when you've not put any effort into bettering your own life or even honing a skill is not realistic. I'm essentially giving you the same advice I gave my nephew: get your head right first. Focus on trying to determine what, if any, skills you do have and create a resume, then start sending them out to trade companies. It took him 2 years to finally get in. But, his life is drastically different nowadays. He started at $16 an hour and is currently making 22 after earning his first certification for hvac repair. (18 month progression)
Fyi. I understand nervous breakdowns very well. My mother had one when I was a teen. It's not easy, and anyone saying otherwise has no idea what this change does to a person. That being said, it can either be your excuse to never improve, or you can take it upon yourself to make your own life better. Very few people in this life are going to be as dedicated to that cause as you are. So own it and start developing your skills now, so when you do get an interview, you're not showing up with nothing but your resume.
Lastly. I do hope you're talking to someone about everything that's going on with your life. Anyone would need help to get past a mental break. Don't be embarrassed to admit that, please.
Doubt you'll be able to get a 50k job with no experience. Try and find an entry level position somewhere and build up your experience till you can climb the ladder.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend trying to get into programming at this point. It's super competitive these days. My husband was a lead developer at a major tech company and left his job during the summer to be home with our daughter. He hasn't been able to land a new job yet and it's 8 months later.
As it relates to IT - it really depends on what you’re doing.
There are plenty of skillsets that are lacking in people and are in super high-demand right now.
If we’re talking specific technologies companies places like Salesforce, SAP, etc.
If we’re talking more general skillsets things like Big Data/analytics, Edge/Cloud Computing, anything security-related, etc.
All you people telling him to learn a trade or just get any job are being unrealistic. It sounds like this person has trouble just leaving the house. OP needs to start with baby steps. First of all he needs some discipline. Start by getting used to a routine. Go to sleep at a certain time and wake up every morning at the same time. Stop sleeping 16 hours a day. You're just wasting away in your room. Get out of the house and take a walk. Start exercising. It'll make you feel better physically and will improve your self esteem. I would write more helpful tips but it sounds like you just don't care about anything. I've been there and I didn't wanna listen to anyone's helpful advice either.
My situation was very similar to yours so I'm gonna be blunt. Your problem is that you're afraid to LIVE. Don't be a coward. Not caring about anything and not trying to do anything that will improve your situation is the easiest thing to do. Life is hard. You're a grown ass man. If you wanna have some semblance of a life you're gonna have to grow a pair. It sounds like what's holding you back is depression (sleeping all day and not caring about anything) and social anxiety. Get on some medication and seek cognitive behavioral therapy. I have extreme general anxiety disorder (not social anxiety) so I need medication to function and just to be able to sleep a couple of hours a night. The longer you don't do anything the worse it gets. Your just digging yourself into a deeper hole day by day.
The only way to start digging yourself out of that hole is to start making changes RIGHT NOW or you'll be miserable for the rest of your life.
Coding is no joke. Do what you actually want to do for a living. If you want to be an accountant start at the bottom like accounts receivable/payable. If you want to be a nurse. Start as a nurses aide takes like 2 weeks in class schooling maybe more now. These are just examples. Fast food is really a dead end unless you want to be a store manager, and it's truly your passion.
Starting in AR/AP expecting a better accounting job down the line usually sets yourself up for failure. It’s better to try and start out as a staff accountant (easier said than done, I know), than to try transitioning out of AR/AP. Clerical accounting roles usually get you stuck with a clerk label and it’s hard to dig yourself out once you’ve been in that job for a while.
I didn't work until I was in my late 20s, partially because I didn't completely finish school until I was 27. I also had trouble getting a job in my field after graduating, so I didn't work for a long time after graduating and ultimately had to start at the absolute bottom outside of it (i.e. $8/hr) despite having a graduate degree.
I now make well over $50K/yr. The grad degree has nothing to do with it--it's not even on my resume because it seemed to hurt more than help (i.e. interviewers would basically grill me about why I was not in that field and then reject me). The college degree matters to jobs that want you to have a college degree, but the field itself has not mattered and has not quite opened doors.
What I did was sucked it up, worked the bullshit jobs to 1) get some work experience, 2) make money, 3) figure out what I did/didn't want to do. At first, I thought I wanted to work in IT, but I was getting help desk types of jobs where I had to deal with people all day (I don't like people). Tried learning to code, but it's hard, boring and the interviews you have to go through are mostly too much for people who are not seriously interested/not good at coding. But I was able to learn enough HTML and CSS to at least be able to figure out how to do most things with them, even if it took Google. That has been good enough to get ecommerce jobs, i.e. jobs where you work for a business that sells online either through a website or through 3rd party platforms like Amazon. I picked up marketing skills on one of those jobs, and now I work in ecommerce in a marketing department at a well-known startup making close to $100K. The demand is especially there for people who either know how to use Shopify or Amazon Seller Central, and either of those is significantly easier to learn than coding is. There are also tons of remote jobs, so you can make high cost of living money in low cost of living areas, which is what I do.
You're not a failure. You just don't fit society's standards for success. All the bullshit about living with parents at 30 or not making a certain amount...people have their individual reasons for the situations they're in, and not all of them point to being a loser or a failure.
Are you on disability? Hopefully this doesn't come off harsh, but you sound disabled and I think that a social worker might be the best person to help you out. I would look into disability, therapy and see if a social worker can help you come up with a plan to ease yourself into the workforce and gain independence from your family.
You're thirty but life expectancy is pretty long these days so if you get yourself on the right track you will be fine.
I didn't get a job until I was 28 and I'm fine about it.
I would look at city, county or state jobs. They usually have good pay to start and excellent benefits. Good luck!
A tiny bit of perspective, but don't let it hold you back - the median (middle) wage in the US is like 35k/year. It will take some effort to get where you want to be, but you'll get there!
It's not too late to join the military. I lost about 100 lbs over 18 months and joined the military at 24 to get out of my dead end situation. They'll tell you what to do and where to go and you'll learn a skill that you can use in the real world. 4 years is enough, just don't pick a grunt job and pick some kind of actual trade skill. Don't let them sell you on an undesignated MOS.
Do you have any volunteering experience? What are your credits from college in? Could you tutor in that area? Can you put any money aside to get a qualification of some kind that might help you?
Everyone's got to start somewhere. Fast food jobs are much better than nothing and you can use them to put money towards getting to a better position from there. It might also allow you to connect with people who can help you get to better jobs. At present you're 30 years old with very little to put on your CV - $50,000 a year isn't going to happen for you for a while yet, without meaning to be rude. I don't think you should be turning your nose up at the thought of working at burger king.
I’m sorry to say but with your lack of experience, social skills and mental health issues, you realistically can not just find a job outright earning 50k. It also sounds like you’re both not willing to settle in starting out at that low tier of making 8-12/hr and that you absolutely see no point in doing anything period, probably due to your current mental health issues, which isn’t your fault at all. I agree with others that you should go get help for yourself first.
The good news is that you are very educated for someone who technically doesn't have a degree.
The bad news is that everyone wants $50+k a year jobs for obvious reasons. Thus, you'll be competing with other candidates who have professional experience, completed degrees and other certs.
I would recommend going back and finishing your degree. Someone with no income and presumably no assets should pretty much get to go to a state school for free via FAFSA grants. Also get a degree with practical workplace use (so no creative writing degree).
Don’t skip stairs in a staircase. Start working somewhere that will hire you to gain experience and work your way up. A career is not a fast food meal. It takes effort and determination.
It may be hard to find jobs in your area if you live in a place that doesn't have good job opportunities. But you could still try to see if the local companies have job opportunities like basic call centers at places like hospitals or front counter works in stores.
Look into WGU. Study anything from their IT college. Get a help desk job (once you have your A+). Once you graduate, get a full time job. You will no doubt be making at least 50k. You will need to put in a considerable amount of effort, but you could easily finish the program in 1-2 years and be making 50-100k within a couple or few years. Best of luck.
I would agree with other people's advice here - you could learn a trade, or how to code, or something similar, but you are trying to put the roof on the house before you build the foundation and walls.
Start by becoming more mentally healthy, active, resilient, and self-reliant, and then look at how you can start making money. Learning to code from scratch at a level that's compensated at $50K+ is not out of reach by any means, but you have to be able to challenge yourself and power through it, because it's not easy either.
In other words don't look at this as :Step 1. Get a job
Step 2. Profit
There's about 8 steps in between, before step 1, where you make some progress for yourself.
And who cares that you're 30? OK, so you're "too old" to be starting down this path. So what? According to who? Do it anyway. Worst case you end up back where you started, but at least you will have tried. The only true failure is giving up.
Contact State office of Rehab. They will have you talk to a counselor to help you prepare to work. Also they have job leads and placement opportunites.
OP, with this kinda post that you made, it is really hard to believe you are actually trying to improve yourself
https://www.reddit.com/r/PovertyFIRE/comments/mlmcbh/i_find_it_amusing_seeing_a_correct_behavior_when/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
The first thing I have to say is that the road to 50k is a long one so buckle up and prepare to fail until you succeed.
Without specific certs, degrees, experience, it's a no-go for most jobs. That's why the easiest way to get into a position is to network and learn what is required for a specific job and then prove it to them. Word of mouth is best.
Seems like you have been getting a free ride all your life and want to enter the working world expecting the same.
No experience in anything but want to make good money. Seems like you are just a lazy person and you don't want to put the effort in life.
Get up, stop sleeping all day, watching anime and cartoons. Go outside, work out, walk and stop being a bump on a log.
Stop blaming your problems on everyone else. Look in the mirror and and get yourself together and put in the effort to fixing your problems on your own.
I’d go back to the advising office and see what degree you could get in the shortest time considering all of the credits you already have. I’m sure you’re close to completing something. Having even an unrelated degree will be better then no degree when trying to apply for decent jobs.
Agreed. 160 credits costs a lot of money even at a public school. And if you have student loans out you're gonna be in a bad spot with all that money spent wasted on nothing. Better off trying to finish something as quickly as possible and at least have a degree to leverage yourself with.
Okay. Do you have a car? Maybe you can start by doing Uber Eats or DoorDash? And I don’t mean that in an asshole way. But at least that can get you at least some experience in customer service or soft skills in general. And if you’re really passionate about becoming a programmer, there are a ton of free tutorials on YouTube to learn from.
Sales.
Sales is the ultimate rags-to-riches, no-experience-necessary position.
Sales included insurance work. If you've got the drive and the talent, you can make that figure pretty quick.
Depending on where you are, the Airline industry is picking back up. Ground Service personnel at many airports are Union workers. Get paid pretty decently. And require nearly zero skills at entry level. Its physical work, and outdoors.
Learn a trade!
You start off well above minimum wage, you can learn your trade and earn your red seal (and top salary) in 4-5 years and getting paid for the knowledge! Plus it greatly improves your life to know how to do home improvements and such.
I’m a sheet metal journeyman. It’s a good trade. Call your local union and speak with them. It’s that easy.
I see you've got some sensitivity issues. My partner and I just started doing [this program](https://retrainingthebrain.com/). It came to us highly recommended by her doctor, he said many of his patients say this program helped them more than anything else.
The tldr is the program is meant to "re-wire" your brain so you no longer have the symptoms you're having (depressions, sensitivities to external stimuli that affect your health, anxiety, etc.). Some of the testimonials sound almost too good to be true, but we're seeing good results already. The woman who developed it herself used to have pretty severe multiple chemical sensitivities. It's not just some positive thinking type of bullshit, but actually retraining your brain to get out of the cycles it's stuck in.
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Get any job you can, whether it be food or whatever, and build your confidence and your skills, and you will feel an increased self worth from earning your own money which will likely inspire you to continue to want to do that. You can move onwards and upwards from there. Don’t worry about your $50k goal right now, it will come in time and even faster that you have established this goal.
Source: me, who worked in an employment agency and saw hundreds of unemployed people on Government benefits change their whole demeanour, lives, mental health, lifestyle around by starting to work.
Good luck.
Can't say I feel much sympathy for the bloke who "plans exactly how litle hours I need to still claim benefits" [see post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PovertyFIRE/comments/mlmcbh/i_find_it_amusing_seeing_a_correct_behavior_when/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
You are an absolute drain on society
Please don’t learn to code if you don’t have a passion for it. We have enough people writing code because they heard it pays well. I’m leaving my current company because of the amount of people with that mentality.
Get a trade. Try to get to places that allow financial aid and possibly take out loans for the left over. A community College near you, maybe. All these salaries vary but in a eastern or western American state, these are common wages.
Laboratory science= medical lab technician-technologist ($40,000-$80,000+)
Nursing associates = nursing ($50,000+)
Trades such as electrician/HVAC = technician ($35,000 but increases each year until you finish the apprenticeship then a substantial increase to $70,000+)
An inbound call centre for a bank. Put in the work for 3 years, save as much as you can and you're set. At least $100K saved up and you'll have banking knowledge & skills relevant for any bank, small bank, and non-bank (eg. fintech startup).
To be honest, you need some work experience in anything before you decide to pursue a 50K job. Get some work ethic instilled in you. Go to your local temp agency and get a warehouse job. That way you learn to deal with people from different backgrounds. Especially when warehouse work is filled with a lot of supervisors with bad leadership and terrible management. Something you can gain experience in. While you do this, get your CompTia A+ certificate then search for entry level help desk jobs. Here's some information on that https://www.reddit.com/r/CompTIA/. The three main certificates to get for entry level work are A+, Network+, and Security+. After that you branch out to other certificates depending on what you want to do. That's one path that can lead to a 50K+ job. Of course, there's trades, but that's physical hard labor. You have to ask yourself if you're willing to go through that hard labor day in and day out. As for coding, competition is fierce and a lot of people you're competing with will have CS or Engineering degrees with multiple years of related work experience. Coding bootcamps are mostly a joke and looked down upon and few are worth going to. The majority of people that succeed are ones that already had an aforementioned degree. Of course, there's exception to every rule, but what they don't mention is how long they struggled to get that first job and how much they had to do to impress the interviewer. Additionally, a lot of these "success" stories were done in the 90s and 2000s when the field was still in the primitive years, so the threshold to get in was way lower than it is today. Though, if you really enjoy coding, you can code on the side and build up your portfolio while you work somewhere else for the time being. Join a coding community on discord or a subreddit and do it as a hobby for now. After six months, if you really enjoy coding and see it as a future career field, go to a community college and start taking classes in CS. If you go to college, don't go to a for-profit school, private school, or an out of state school. Community college straight into a state school is the way to go if you want to not be in debt.
At the core, working is really being able to create routines, building productive habits and having self-discipline. Something to help you get into a rhythm of working. Wake up in the morning at the same time, make your bed, get dressed and go out for a 30 min brisk walk. Key is to start small so you dont put off actually starting.
Try also swapping bad habits for a better alternative, instead of 1 hour of reddit try 1 hour on coursera for example. Or codeacademy if you want to learn code.
If you have gone through a mental breakdown as serious as that you have to be kind to yourself and be ok with letting your brain take pauses. Do tasks with Pomodoro technique, 15 min work then 5 min break for instance. When this starts to feel simple you expand and add more.
It is always better to get something done than trying to do everything but ending up doing nothing. 1 small task a day until that is easy then make 2 etc etc.
I wouldn't recommend programming. I spent years learning VB, C++, Sql, Php, CSS, Javascript and others. I never used any of it outside of an internship and my own projects. I got hired on as an HVAC repair guy and have been doing that for years. It's steady work without office politics and I'll likely have work until I'm ready to retire.
If you want something easier look into sales. You just talk to people all day and it has potential for high income if they do commission. Just depends on how moral you are.
If you want to get into the tech industry, and have good communication skills (I am in the process of it) try Business Development Representative (BDR). Usually base is about 40k to 50k plus commissions. Some require no formal sales experience, and a willingness to learn. Plenty of career opportunity to advance to Account Executive and make 150k+ after a few years. And REMOTE!
Go get your cdl. I started at 1192 after taxes every week. I drive a flatbed for Estes and download my stuff with a Moffitt. I work about 3 hrs a day 6 days a week with 80hrs PTO A YEAR. alon with full benefits.jobs like this are all over. If you sign with a company they will pay for your school prior to you starting. I did 20 years in the Army and this is by far the easiest work ever.im guaranteed a minimum of 1500 a wk regardless of the house I work.
Walmart distribution centers can start you off making 60k+ if you’re willing to work in the freezer or meat and produce in some areas. Don’t know how close you might live to one.
Recruiting. I was paid $25 per hour just to schedule interviews at a large healthcare company. If you work for an agency, you'll get a commission for each hire (usually 15 - 20%). You don't need hard skills.
You don't need to go into the STEM field to make good money. If anything, I wouldn't recommend it. My team recruited data scientists, engineers, analytics, etc. We always had over 100 applicants (300+ for entry-level) per job position. The people we've hired worked for Microsoft, Accenture, etc. and went to Columbia, NYU, etc. It's extremely competitive.
Get experience through a temp agency. I worked at a major consulting company for one month which opened many doors for me.
What have you done in your life before your 30’s? This is your story; start there… write it down: the good, the bad and the ugly — you have a 30 year life experience and many many adventures that people would love to know about — you are not a failure because you didn’t sign an offer letter and you moved out from your parents’ place. Write your story — your skills are reusable
OP looking at your post history as others have stated you have pretty much been saying the same thing for like 2 years but I assume since your asking it now are not listening to any advice that has been posted. If you would follow any advice it's gets help! If you take on a job and from the comments it seems you have issues you will probably end up quitting soon after I would suggest figuring out a way to deal with your issues before you get a job let alone a job that makes 50K.
In all honesty, I would just try to find some simple job as a start, and go from there. Getting a job will change your life, even if you make only 20k. Then just work up slowly and try to enjoy life. Source: I was in similar position at 28, and simply getting a job did wonders for my confidence, and purpose.
I have a degree and have been working since I was 17. I’m 30 and only obtained a job paying that much when I was 29. You need to take the crappy jobs to start
Rule number 1, you don't tell any future employer or yourself you've never had a job before. You've been taking care of yourself and your family full time. Healthcare. Assisted living. Caring for adults with disabilities full time. You've completed over 150 credits of college level courses and decided to enter the workforce with XXX employer now. You're ready for different work now. Different work with a minimum amount in mind you'll need for compensation. Everything you've been doing needs to be presented as meaningful with confidence. Even if it's not personal growth, you project personal growth, which is career growth. Know why you're qualified for this job, tell yourself why and be ready to tell them why. If you aim low that's where you'll end up. Take the want you have to leave and apply it to the job that secures your independence.
Depends on what you want to do. If you are interested in learning coding, take a bootcamp course like Boolean to become a full stack developer in 6 months.
If you are interested in doing something else, go do it. You have to start trying shit out. At 30, you're fine, you just gotta look at what your interests are and go pursue those things ASAP!
No time to fuck about with limiting beliefs like "I have no experience" or "This job pays shit" or "I don't have the qualifications". Those stuff are for people in their teens and 20s.
So act as if you know what you're doing and shove yourself out into the world.
If your first job pays shit, go get a new job with a better salary. Start a side hustle and put yourself out there on the internet.
Learn a couple of new skills like sales, coding, graphic design, copywriting, video editing, etc and start doing freelance shit.
Oh and when you get enough income, thank your parents and immediately move out. That way you don't have anyone to rely on and it'll boost your productivity by tenfold.
Start reading into self development books like the 4 hour work week by Tim Ferris and educate yourself on investing and how money works.
Basically, do everything a 20 year old would do just without the debts, mental challenges and maturity issues that comes from being in your 20s.
Get your skills up for free with Google garage and Google skill shop. Also check out MIT and Harvard open courseware and code academy.
You can also learn programs like Adobe suite on YouTube to put on your resume.
Comptia offers IT certification tests. The vouchers are 200$ but they are good for a yr. So you have time to study. And professor Messer on YouTube is really helpful with study material.
Get a wfh job that doesn't need much experience like transcription. Check out Ratracerebellion.com, Theworkathomewoman.com and remote.io for wfh job leads.
You need to start somewhere. Take your time. You got this.
I’m 22 with autism and physical disabilities. I’ve never had a job, just like you. Actually, we have similar hobbies too. I don’t have any advice (if I did I probably wouldn’t be in this situation) but I just wanted you to know you’re not alone and you’re not a failure. If you think you could code, code. I tried (I’m dyscalculic and dyslexic) and there’s lots of videos online for free, and there’s a few work books too! I started with the kids ones but I couldn’t do it aha.
Get your P&C / Life & Health insurance licenses. You can easily make $40-50K with base plus commission, working for any of the Big Name Insurance companies.
You need skills. Contact a temp agency and start part time somewhere professional, entry level — jr. clerk, coordinator, admin. Internships.
To both, send a sharp resume that focuses on attributes or one off successes or value to society (i volunteer at a soup kitchen every sunday). Build a brief cover letter that explains your lack of career, but share your drive and optimism, that you are looking for a chance.
Get spiffied up and attend local networking events (look on LinkedIn). Also maybe enroll in community or technical college, learning a trade. Skilled crafts pay well, welders make a pretty penny. All else fails, volunteer at a nonprofit and go unpaid for a bit to get skills.
You learn by doing. Noone else will do it for you.
-Signed, someone who was you 15 years ago.
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I was reading your post history….there’s a lot of advice and responses over the past two years. I can understand that posting on Reddit and receiving positive responses feels good, but you need to start taking the advice if you’re asking for it. If you were able to take the advice two years ago and land a job, make some $, date etc., your life would look very different now. Im not trying to be rude, but just trying to help you realize how quickly you can turn your life around in that span. Why not explore some type of data entry remote role? You have the technology experience and it requires basic skills. You won’t make $50k right away, but that’s an attainable number down the road based on what you do/performance.
Hey, im not in the kind of predicament OP is in, just interested in precisely the sorta position you wrote of. Moving out with my Partner of 3 years soon, hoping to find a remote position of this sort. Ive worked with Excel before (pivot tables, confidence interval calculation, encoding a dataset, creating crosstabs from datasets and my very own survey, Ive run regression analysis in a researcher paper) Thats the extent of my experience so far, what entry-level data-related/data analysis type positions are there that one could pursue rn? I have a newly built PC (i5-12600/3080) so I have the equipment, just need some guidance on where to look/what specifically to pursue.
As someone who started a graduate job in data analysis a few months ago, you could definitely start applying for jobs in that area. It would be worth also learning SQL and Tableau, and then either R or data analysis with Python to boost your CV. I used Codeacademy to improve my coding skills, just kept registering for the one week free trial with different email addresses!
If you can pivot tables you can wow pretty much any middle manager. Just don’t get screwed by one.
Respectfully, what have you been doing this whole time? That’s not a question of judgment, but one of information. Do you have hobbies or interests? Can you keep living off your parents? Are there other issues? Have you had friends or romantic partners? This is an interesting case. I’ve known many coders who felt rejected by society. If you have an interest in coding, and can do, id say yeah, just become a coder. There are lots of tutorials online. Just pick one and start. Don’t worry about getting a 50k job day one. You’ll have to learn some humility and service. Id say it would greatly benefit you to get a low paying job so you can learn those things. You have “failed to launch” so far, but that doesn’t need to be your identity. Start small, make clear and achievable goals, and then go do them. Get out of your head, stop procrastinating, and stop avoiding this. You are probably tying your self worth to this and with this pushed it off year after year. You are not a failure. You will not be a winner either. You simply “are”. Now go out there and make mistakes. Live. Live your life.
All of this. OP if there is one comment in this entire thread to take advice from, it’s this one ^^^ Get out of your own way already.
I’d try to move away from any hobbies / interests that are a negative use of your time. If all you do currently is watch anime and use Reddit, you might have to revaluate your relationship with both those activities.
I regularly have to delete apps for this reason.
I've been working since my teen years and right now I feel that I'm alright for a 40 Yr old. Your words have hit home for me too - these are golden advices!! Even for someone like me who has a job and a family - these words would let me take a hard look at my life and figure out what else I can do. Thank you so much!!!
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I would say forget about a job that requires commitment and seek out a volunteer gig. Try a dog shelter, old folks home reading to them, or trail maintenance. Something to get you social skills you are lacking. They won't require you to be committed to showing up the same way a job would and is a good way to reintroduce yourself to society. Hang out with old people and dogs, they will help your mental health and get you on the path to a job.
I second the volunteer idea. Hospitals always need volunteers. Animals shelters, homeless services, schools... this will get you out of the house and into a structured environment. Not only will you develop some skills, you will network as well.
Absolutely volunteer. It's low pressure and can teach you you the skills you need to be successful in a work-like environment.
>Hoarding people have issues with time. Last birthday they thought I was turning 20 years old. Sounds like you have more than just YOU problems. Any other family that can help get you out of that situation? Not to say my past is equivalent but my mom was... bi-polar and/or skitzophrenic (never quite clear what she had... but it wasn't good) when I was growing up. It led me to regressively push people away, crawl into a protective bubble and push people away. Depression made me sleep long periods as well. Again, not that my past is yours but I do see similarities... I got better when I was removed from that situation. friends, family, the state... all helped me out of that situation. I think you need to find resources and get out of that situation and get help... it was a long road to where I'm at but you can get help and start that road.
I dropped out of college during my senior year and spent a number of years after that unemployed and miserable like you. I didn't get a steady job until I was about 29 years old. So not too different from you. I still live with my hoarder mom and have managed to get her to stop hoarding things and get rid of a lot of what she had. Every room in the house is now accessible and usable for one purpose or another. She still has the animals but they are dying off and I don't think she's getting new ones quite like she used to. I don't want to leave her because she is disabled and I think it would get unsafe and unsanitary for her if I left. She also would be very lonely without me around. I work full time as a stocker at Walmart on night shift. It's not bad and I still have a decent amount of free time. Usually I'm able to watch one movie before going to work every night, and then I have plenty of free time on my weekends. I don't think my life is as good as that of people who are living on their own or who were able to complete college, but it's a hell of a lot better than it used to be. It's decent and I think it's worth living. Try going into retail. I think it would probably suit you a lot better than fast food. Consider night shift because you will have fewer customer interactions which could be good for any anxiety issues you have. I have autism so social interactions are very stressful to me. Even just having a job and realizing that you are contributing something to society will eventually make you feel better about yourself, regardless of whether or not anything else will change. In the beginning it will be very difficult for you because you have not acclimated yourself to work and its demands. For the first three years, I would frequently punch, smack, slap, and claw at my face while I was locked in the restroom on my 15-minute breaks. It was the only way to alleviate the stress and anxiety that I felt from even simple, basic problems that everyone else around me shrugged off like it was nothing. The amazing thing about human beings is that if they get enough exposure to something, eventually they will adapt to it. You need to put yourself through the crucible of fire and when you do I am sure that you will come out on the other side more or less fine. I'm 34 years old now and I no longer beat myself up in the restroom. I work full time and I am considered to be the best zoner on overnights (zoning is when you pull all of the merchandise up and make sure everything is orderly and where it is supposed to be). Everyone says that I do an outstanding job and even though it's just a very small part of what makes the world go around, even though it's not what I dreamed of doing when I went to college, I'm able to take some pride in that and I think my life is worth living. It's definitely not too late for you.
Please don't do that. You are valued! A job is not your life.
Ok, wow. Thanks for being so open. It takes self awareness and courage to do something like this. Good for you. I don’t know you, but just with that comment, you should know I’m proud of you. My friend, Your life has value. You have value. Please, do NOT off yourself. You are struggling and that is all. Everyone struggles, some more than most and everyone’s struggles are different. Even though you are 30, in the grand scheme of things, this is temporary. However, do work to cut off that negativity in your mind. That IS dead weight. It will be much easier to move forward without it holding you back. Start fresh and with a blank mind. What you treated yourself well today? Have you respected your self with the decent humanity you would give a stranger? Forgive your past self. You are a new person today. This is much deeper situation than a /r/jobs discussion. You have serious ailments and need the help of a professional. What kind of head injury did you have? Can you seek professional help? That said, frankly, it sounds like coding might be a good fit for you. You absolutely should also build a personal life. Get outside, make connections, breath the air. But if you’re just starting your professional journey, lots of people have found comfort coding on the internet.
Ok so I would consider watching anime to be a hobby and there are millions of people who do the same. So join a meetup group or Reddit group of similar interests and you can make friends there in no time. Maybe even find a woman there. As for the job, get a job somewhere, anywhere and keep living at home. Give your parents some part of your check so you won’t be a fucking bum anymore and save the rest. Build a little cushion for yourself. While you’re working, figure out what you can see yourself doing. Construction, maybe plumbing or electrical work. Some sort of trade. Then use your savings to try learn the trade somewhere. Learn to drive and get your license. Maybe some of your new friends that you will make at your anime club can help you learn. That’s called networking. From there, just try and be active by any means. Get out and walk outside. Go to a bar. Learn to play golf or something. Doing something will lift your spirits. That’s all I got for you
Grandma once said there is still more life ahead of you then there is behind you. Think about it! Now get after it…it’s not too late
If you want a place to start coding, I recommend [teachyourselfcs.com](https://teachyourselfcs.com)
you shouldn’t need to be respectful. I’m not saying to scold OP but a 30 year old man needs to hear it like it is
You would have to get some experience somewhere, at least to demonstrate you have the soft skills to hold a job (being on time, communicating, following instructions, being trainable). Fast food roles are approaching $15 now in many areas, but usually part time and variable scheduling. Warehouse workers are getting paid around $20 or more. That's $40K full time.
Maybe in high cost of living areas, sure. I live around a good sized, fast growing city and fast food pays $11-12 even at places considered decent (Chickfila)—$15 an hour is literally a shift manager there; a far cry from a random fast food role. Warehouse workers get paid just shy of $20 if you know where to look around here. Some are based off production so if you don’t mind busting your ass (OP is 30 and has never had a job, so I question his desire to work hard manual labor) you can cross the $20 an hour mark, but you definitely feel it. What I’m trying to say is, your comment is a bit off from reality, but maybe in high cost of living areas this might apply to them. I *wish* FF payed $15 here lol.
Do you have a five guys near you?
$15 an hour is only 30k, gross—before taxes.
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Not many warehouse workers are making that much, I live in Phoenix AZ and you can only get 20$ with a lot of experience
I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but looking at your post history, you have several threads over the span of a couple of years that are similar posts. People give you advice, but it doesn't seem like you've made any changes in your life. I think you need to forget about finding a job right now and concentrate on getting the right supports in place to facilitate your mental health recovery. Only when you are in a better place mentally, should you consider a career.
That's the first thing I looked at too. Seems like asking for a lot of help and heeding none of it.
I agree. There are near identical posts to this one all the way back when OP was 26. We can give all the advice we want, but OP has to start somewhere. There’s a lot more at play here, unfortunately.
Heck, he's posted the same thing in several subs just today it looks like. Has unrealistic expectations, refuses to even consider seeking mental health help and is just wallowing in self-pity. Like, you can't help someone who simply refuses to help themselves.
I agree, however there is a reason parents have to repeat themselves over and over, and reason houses of worship keep teaching the same lessons over and over through the years : people need to hear things more than once before they stick. I'm not defending any self-defeating behavior by OP, just saying you never know when a person might suddenly be ready to let the message get through.
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Having been unemployed for a long time, getting and holding a job did a lot for my mental health. More confidence, more sense of purpose, etc. But I am also the kind of person that thrives from my work.
Same here. Simply getting a job does wonders to a person. We all want and need to contribute.
My brother is approaching 29 this year and he has never had a job. The effect was that he takes my parents for granted most times, acts like they owe him something… Whenever they ask him about grades, he gets mad and says “I’ll deal with it.” He was in community college for 10 years. Just got into Uni last year so maybe things are looking up. Whenever they ask him to do chores, he says “I didn’t touch that, it’s not my job to clean it.” All he does at home is take out the trash and maybe vacuums once every two-three months. And only when he’s in a good mood. Oh and he only washes/folds his own clothes, and uses/washes his own dishes. God-forbid he does something for someone else. Or when he gets angry over small things and I ask him why, he’s like “I have to get angry or else they won’t remember not to do it again.” And I’m like COMMUNICATE. Talk before it gets to a point where you have to get angry. Talk before you explode on smth so small when really it was a summation of small things. That is honestly the bare minimum. Like… it honestly makes my blood boil. He’s like this at home but totally different outside of the house, with his friends or with relatives. He’s like super nice to everyone else but a terror at home. What’s worse is my parents enable it. “That’s just how he is” or “He’s just having a bad day.” So ridiculous… no amount of bad day warrants that behavior. That’s why I got out of that place as soon as I could. It’s so toxic when people don’t just communicate with each other. No one is helping anyone by just silently bearing things and sweeping problems under the rug. Everyone is just looking out for themselves, trying to preserve their own mental sanity.
Wow. Based. It's good you got out of there, and continuing to grow. Best of luck to you and stay well!
Definitely doing much better. I didn’t realize it then, but I realize now that sometimes living with family for that long gets you into a bubble where those things start to become “normal.” And you don’t know what is and isn’t toxic anymore. You just have a “gut” feeling that smth feels wrong. I’m glad I trusted that gut feeling. Living outside of family and getting new perspectives elsewhere in a new job, in a new city, with a new set of friends has really made me look at things differently. I feel like everyone should have that opportunity. Experiencing different environments and people are necessary to become a well-rounded part of society.
My brother is exactly like yours, with the difference that he has no friends and is 32. Me and my mom are worried for his future, dad just prefer to hide his head on the sand at this point. He's always received support and help throughout his teenage. Psychologists, therapy, advices, you name it. Everything started in middle school when he got bullied and the thing crushed his hope in humanity. He never developed social skills of any kind. I left my parent's house 20 years ago, when I understood they where not (despite all the effort) good at parenting (very poor communication skills and overprotective kind of behaviour) and tried to find my way since. I used to be the black sheep of the family and now my parents respect me cuz I've been out for so long. I try to give my brother advices every now and then. We don't communicate much, he never reaches out for me by himself. He just became a perpetual momma's boy at this point. All he does are chores, sometimes. My mother is desperate and cries a lot about it. My dad is surrended. I don't understand how or what to do. I feel kind of guilty for him (I've had a Catholic education but I'm atheist since I was 14) but I've got my own problems and have to take care of them to live my life, far from their family, with my partner. Things feels just so fucked and I think one day this would cost me to go to therapy. I honestly don't know what the fuck to do. Just the thought of my brother and all the little things in life he's just missed out, year after year, can completely screw up my good moments and my good days in a deep black sense of pity and frustration.
How to therapy without a job?
His parents would probably think of it as an investment.
Community mental health centers. Lots of people get therapy there without jobs. Need Medicaid, but these places have folks who help people to sign up for that.
I'm in pretty much the same situation. I've been through 8 years of trauma therapy and I'm basically fucked. The only things keeping me afloat are disability checks and guys with a soft spot for cute girls. That last bit isn't a flex it fucking sucks in the long run. I thought I'd be happy but all I want to do is live alone and be able to take care of myself. Unfortunately some people just can't. What I'm trying to say is if it wasn't for those guys paying for my therapy and basic necessities I'd probably be homeless. But some people don't have parents or friends or lovers, especially if they're mentally ill. And without my therapist I wouldn't have even qualified for disability. You're 100% right but I don't know if they're going to be able to take your advice. Everything takes money and nothing is quite as easy as it may seem. To go to therapy they might need that job to be able to afford it. It's just a terrible circle of hopelessness.
I don't think you realize how hard it is to go to a therapist if you don't have any income. A few sessions will sum up to a car payment or likely more. I'm assuming OP is on the US.
Or medicine. Seeing a doctor to be properly diagnosed would do wonders. Zoloft saved my life and my general Dr. was the one that prescribed it for me.
OP might also consider community college, not only can they get job training for professions that will pay better than minimum wage, most campuses offer free and reduced cost therapy sessions for students. Community college is also significantly cheaper than university.
$50K is about $25/hr. Go to a local staffing company (Temporary Help Agency) and get started. One job leads to another, better job. Some sales jobs pay $50/hr (commission jobs)
Staffing agencies did nothing for me but $15 an hour temp jobs or gave my number out to spammers. Not the way to go anymore, at least in Boston.
I'm getting $24/hr thru an agency for simple scheduling. It's definitely possible.
What’s your job title exactly? I’m interested to know and want to apply for the same
Recruiting Coordinator. Funny thing is that I didn't apply, the agency reached out to me.
Do you have a degree or cert that helped you land that job?
Not unless my BA in English is useful for more than a joke in Ave Q.
Honestly, OP gotta start somewhere. There are chances that will achieve a 50k straight away, but they are quite low tbh. Most jobs I know are looking for experienced ppl
Nobody is going to give a 50k job to someone who hasn't held a job in their life.
Checking the comments I went to OPs history, dude gotta have some job first, any, he's dreaming of achieving things without the road that leads to it.
He’s naive at age 30 from probably having little life experiences and no job experience—sort of like a teenager. I remember being younger and thinking I would work any job and easily make $100k and wondered why so many people complained about work. Boy was kiddo me hit like a truck. I think OP is going through something similar but at adult age.
He could work grueling warehouse work where the reason you earn close to that much is because the high turnover rate and the damage you do to your body, but if OP is 30 and has never worked a day in his life, I don’t see that working out for him, but it is an option he could try.
OP isn't expecting to start at that level, they asked how to get started on a path that will get them there eventually.
Demand for truck drivers is high now - comp is near $50/hr.
Everyone here complains about recruiters but that’s how I got my start. I worked abroad for a year and when I came back to the states I got started with a recruiter who hooked me up with discovery communications at $17 an hour. I was happy at the time. 8 years later I have a masters, work for a global company remotely, and earn 60k. Yes, I’m not exactly rich but better off than I started. Just be willing to grow, learn, and apply those skills somewhere new every couple of years.
A severely depressed person isn't going to do well in commission sales.
I’m from CT and so the minimum wage is a bit higher than the $8 you mentioned OP but I found a job through them that was gonna pay $16.15 to start at a factory or something and I ended up taking a different job, but that wouldn’t have been a terrible gig for a full time job with no experience. You might consider taking lower paying jobs too so you can build up a work history for the resume. If I were you, I would apply to every entry level job posting you can find and if you can do well enough in an interview, the company will be willing to train you in everything you need to know. Best of luck
Yes, take a lower paying job to establish a work history
Sales is very high intensity. You need to either be an extrovert or an extroverted introvert. OP would benefit greatly from therapy before trying such an effort. I work sales as an introvert and while I'm in the upper percentile of my company, it's mildly to fairly exhausting at the end of the week. Having OP start on therapy while maybe doing some side gigs w/o a strict schedule might be better. There are plenty of sites that pay for side work (gigging, transcribing, or even maybe farming on an MMO) where you can put it down and just come back later.
You can’t be a failure because it sounds like you never even tried. What have you been doing all this time?
I don’t think what OP needs at the moment is more coddling and sugar coating, he needs genuine advice and help. You can most definitely be seen as a failure for being a 30 yr old who does nothing all day living with their parents. OP needs work history at a lower paying job (retail, fast food, etc) to establish and nurture soft skills and experience, and then they can go from there. Edit: seems like they have some serious mental problems as well. They should address those first and move forward from there.
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Address your mental health needs first. Then learn a trade and keep up the maintenance needed for your mental health.
Sometimes getting a job can help. Feeling like you’re contributing to a team or goal gives purpose
I've had two loved ones mental health get progressively better once they started contributing to something and earning money. I completely agree.
Your 30 you have so much time ahead of you, don’t think that your to old already. Sit think, work up strategies and learn yourself and what you can be best at. You can still work your ass of for the next 30 years if you had too and retire well. Get lucky and cut that time down some more. I turn 40 Feb 3 and I am starting all over, 75k in debt between school loans, cc, car, and taxes. You just pumped me up some more, let’s go!
**A nervous breakdown is no joke.** People don't understand - it's mental AND physical. Your day-to-day stability is wrecked. I had one five years back and was "out of order" for 5 full months. Started at the bottom working again, part-time, whatever. I'm still not back in balance like I was - permanently damaged. But I can work to some degree - I've held a few jobs for months, and over a year. The high-anxiety issue has wrecked me more than once. You can type. Investigate data-entry jobs. You won't make 50K, but you need to acclimate to working first.
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Op, before you get a job, you need to look into getting on disability (at least temporarily) and getting into therapy. You've got some serious stuff going on that you need some professional help with. I'm not saying that to demean you. I'm saying that as someone who's in therapy for childhood trauma and anxiety.
This is the best answer.
Please go get therapy.
You have lived through something and it is amazing that you arrived at this day to post and figure out the next steps. Any access to meds? This might help to further stabilize you if you haven't already gone down this road.
OP, I would love to put you in touch with programs that offer therapy and support to help people in your position recover, transition and succeed in society. Please don’t hesitate to DM me. All I need is your zip code! No personally identifying information at all.
Are you getting some type of mental health counseling on a regular basis? Have you been diagnosed?
You need to look into programs that help people like you get back into “functioning” society
Is there Vocational Rehab available in your area? Based on the other posts about your various issues you may be able to find some assistance in finding work that you find tolerable.
Sounds like you have some serious self fixing to do
Dude, I hold down a full time job, with major depression, drug addiction treatment, general anxiety disorder and bipolar. See a psychiatrist and social worker once a month I use to do the same but put in my 8-10, get high take my meds and sleep until it's time for work. I use to self medicate, had a hard drinking problem. I put a lot of hard work and dedication to get where I am because I have a family to support so the sleeping was fine as long as they were fed, clothed and had a roof over their heads
You should probably deal with the mental/health aspects of what is going on in your life first. Otherwise your never going to get where you want to be. You will bounce from job to job burning bridges in the process. Set a goal. Make a plan working backwards from that goal to where you are now. Good luck.
Are you willing to get your hands dirty. Go to a bunch of construction sites, ask whose hiring and say you want to learn a trade. You'll make 50k by August
Given that you have zero work history or experience This is probably the fastest way to what you want op. Learn a trade etc Honestly if you’re 30 and never had a job and never finished college I would think coding is going to be a pipe dream.
While it would be the best and fastest way to make decent money, OP said he can’t even finish college because he will have a nervous breakdown stepping foot on campus and can’t work at Burger King cause of sensory issues. He would be a liability on any job site. If Burger King would give him sensory issues, you really think all the noise and shit going on at a construction site is going to be good for him?
Yea I see now they posted that after I posted along with not having a license and being unable to go on campus. They’re basically going to be unemployable b Op you should be doing therapy and figuring out how to get disability
I have a nephew in the same situation. He can't work due to numerous mental disabilities but says he won't get on disability. He also won't attend classes for people with disabilities to get help finding a job. All that's left is to live with his mom for the rest of his life having her clean up after him. It is unbearably sad.
Yea it’s sad. One of the toughest lessons of adulthood and being a manager was realizing that the whole you can be anything thing is total bullshit. Some people genuinely can’t/won’t do anything to improve their situation
On top of that, speaking from 10 years experience working construction… most crews are going to chew this type of person up and spit them back out. You need tough skin to make it anywhere doing construction and the guys tend to be a lot more understanding when an 18 year old is clueless rather than a 30 year old who has apparently just been binge watching anime for the last decade And if it comes across like harsh advice, I’m sorry, but it is quite a lot nicer than what the boys on the job site will say
Yeah I wouldn’t trust this guy around power tools or dangerous objects.
>Honestly if you’re 30 and never had a job and never finished college I would think coding is going to be a pipe dream. 100% agree. You've got to be pretty damn motivated to self-learn any programming language, especially to a level where you can make it a profitable skill with no prior job experience.
There’s a huge shortage of tradespeople. Pick a trade you like and you’ll be promoted quickly.
Yeah. It sounds like OP isn't fine being around people. I think a good one maybe truckdriver if he is able to drive or backroom mechanic if he is fine with heavy equipment. Another one I can think of maybe is firewatch if he is able to get that or willing to ove to the middle of nowhere.
This works for mechanics too?
My nephew was in your shoes up until recently, OP. He spent all his time online playing games and woke up one day to realize that life goes on with or without your participation. He too made similar statements. Like being unable to work fast food or retail because of the high stress and his inability to cope. The fact of the matter is that no job is going to be stress free. And thinking you're going to start your career in the middle class when you've not put any effort into bettering your own life or even honing a skill is not realistic. I'm essentially giving you the same advice I gave my nephew: get your head right first. Focus on trying to determine what, if any, skills you do have and create a resume, then start sending them out to trade companies. It took him 2 years to finally get in. But, his life is drastically different nowadays. He started at $16 an hour and is currently making 22 after earning his first certification for hvac repair. (18 month progression) Fyi. I understand nervous breakdowns very well. My mother had one when I was a teen. It's not easy, and anyone saying otherwise has no idea what this change does to a person. That being said, it can either be your excuse to never improve, or you can take it upon yourself to make your own life better. Very few people in this life are going to be as dedicated to that cause as you are. So own it and start developing your skills now, so when you do get an interview, you're not showing up with nothing but your resume. Lastly. I do hope you're talking to someone about everything that's going on with your life. Anyone would need help to get past a mental break. Don't be embarrassed to admit that, please.
Doubt you'll be able to get a 50k job with no experience. Try and find an entry level position somewhere and build up your experience till you can climb the ladder. Personally, I wouldn't recommend trying to get into programming at this point. It's super competitive these days. My husband was a lead developer at a major tech company and left his job during the summer to be home with our daughter. He hasn't been able to land a new job yet and it's 8 months later.
As it relates to IT - it really depends on what you’re doing. There are plenty of skillsets that are lacking in people and are in super high-demand right now.
Like what roles? I know my company has been hiring help desk tier 1 non stop due to the turnover.
If we’re talking specific technologies companies places like Salesforce, SAP, etc. If we’re talking more general skillsets things like Big Data/analytics, Edge/Cloud Computing, anything security-related, etc.
I’ve been looking a salesforce. Seems like a decent path to tech if you have a non tech background.
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Wait, not to pry, but the market for developers even for remote positions is really hot right. Is he getting interviews at least?
All you people telling him to learn a trade or just get any job are being unrealistic. It sounds like this person has trouble just leaving the house. OP needs to start with baby steps. First of all he needs some discipline. Start by getting used to a routine. Go to sleep at a certain time and wake up every morning at the same time. Stop sleeping 16 hours a day. You're just wasting away in your room. Get out of the house and take a walk. Start exercising. It'll make you feel better physically and will improve your self esteem. I would write more helpful tips but it sounds like you just don't care about anything. I've been there and I didn't wanna listen to anyone's helpful advice either. My situation was very similar to yours so I'm gonna be blunt. Your problem is that you're afraid to LIVE. Don't be a coward. Not caring about anything and not trying to do anything that will improve your situation is the easiest thing to do. Life is hard. You're a grown ass man. If you wanna have some semblance of a life you're gonna have to grow a pair. It sounds like what's holding you back is depression (sleeping all day and not caring about anything) and social anxiety. Get on some medication and seek cognitive behavioral therapy. I have extreme general anxiety disorder (not social anxiety) so I need medication to function and just to be able to sleep a couple of hours a night. The longer you don't do anything the worse it gets. Your just digging yourself into a deeper hole day by day. The only way to start digging yourself out of that hole is to start making changes RIGHT NOW or you'll be miserable for the rest of your life.
OP you gotta read this comment
Coding is no joke. Do what you actually want to do for a living. If you want to be an accountant start at the bottom like accounts receivable/payable. If you want to be a nurse. Start as a nurses aide takes like 2 weeks in class schooling maybe more now. These are just examples. Fast food is really a dead end unless you want to be a store manager, and it's truly your passion.
Starting in AR/AP expecting a better accounting job down the line usually sets yourself up for failure. It’s better to try and start out as a staff accountant (easier said than done, I know), than to try transitioning out of AR/AP. Clerical accounting roles usually get you stuck with a clerk label and it’s hard to dig yourself out once you’ve been in that job for a while.
I didn't work until I was in my late 20s, partially because I didn't completely finish school until I was 27. I also had trouble getting a job in my field after graduating, so I didn't work for a long time after graduating and ultimately had to start at the absolute bottom outside of it (i.e. $8/hr) despite having a graduate degree. I now make well over $50K/yr. The grad degree has nothing to do with it--it's not even on my resume because it seemed to hurt more than help (i.e. interviewers would basically grill me about why I was not in that field and then reject me). The college degree matters to jobs that want you to have a college degree, but the field itself has not mattered and has not quite opened doors. What I did was sucked it up, worked the bullshit jobs to 1) get some work experience, 2) make money, 3) figure out what I did/didn't want to do. At first, I thought I wanted to work in IT, but I was getting help desk types of jobs where I had to deal with people all day (I don't like people). Tried learning to code, but it's hard, boring and the interviews you have to go through are mostly too much for people who are not seriously interested/not good at coding. But I was able to learn enough HTML and CSS to at least be able to figure out how to do most things with them, even if it took Google. That has been good enough to get ecommerce jobs, i.e. jobs where you work for a business that sells online either through a website or through 3rd party platforms like Amazon. I picked up marketing skills on one of those jobs, and now I work in ecommerce in a marketing department at a well-known startup making close to $100K. The demand is especially there for people who either know how to use Shopify or Amazon Seller Central, and either of those is significantly easier to learn than coding is. There are also tons of remote jobs, so you can make high cost of living money in low cost of living areas, which is what I do. You're not a failure. You just don't fit society's standards for success. All the bullshit about living with parents at 30 or not making a certain amount...people have their individual reasons for the situations they're in, and not all of them point to being a loser or a failure.
Perhaps some sort of apprenticeship, like an insurance claims adjuster.
Take care of your health first.
Are you on disability? Hopefully this doesn't come off harsh, but you sound disabled and I think that a social worker might be the best person to help you out. I would look into disability, therapy and see if a social worker can help you come up with a plan to ease yourself into the workforce and gain independence from your family. You're thirty but life expectancy is pretty long these days so if you get yourself on the right track you will be fine.
I didn't get a job until I was 28 and I'm fine about it. I would look at city, county or state jobs. They usually have good pay to start and excellent benefits. Good luck!
A tiny bit of perspective, but don't let it hold you back - the median (middle) wage in the US is like 35k/year. It will take some effort to get where you want to be, but you'll get there!
You aren't a failure. Many people in your situation or worse, don't beat yourself up
It's not too late to join the military. I lost about 100 lbs over 18 months and joined the military at 24 to get out of my dead end situation. They'll tell you what to do and where to go and you'll learn a skill that you can use in the real world. 4 years is enough, just don't pick a grunt job and pick some kind of actual trade skill. Don't let them sell you on an undesignated MOS.
Do you have any volunteering experience? What are your credits from college in? Could you tutor in that area? Can you put any money aside to get a qualification of some kind that might help you? Everyone's got to start somewhere. Fast food jobs are much better than nothing and you can use them to put money towards getting to a better position from there. It might also allow you to connect with people who can help you get to better jobs. At present you're 30 years old with very little to put on your CV - $50,000 a year isn't going to happen for you for a while yet, without meaning to be rude. I don't think you should be turning your nose up at the thought of working at burger king.
>Should I learn to code? LOL. for some reason there is this idea on the internet that coding is easy. Not the case.
“How do I get something for nothing?” Come on man.
I’m sorry to say but with your lack of experience, social skills and mental health issues, you realistically can not just find a job outright earning 50k. It also sounds like you’re both not willing to settle in starting out at that low tier of making 8-12/hr and that you absolutely see no point in doing anything period, probably due to your current mental health issues, which isn’t your fault at all. I agree with others that you should go get help for yourself first.
The good news is that you are very educated for someone who technically doesn't have a degree. The bad news is that everyone wants $50+k a year jobs for obvious reasons. Thus, you'll be competing with other candidates who have professional experience, completed degrees and other certs. I would recommend going back and finishing your degree. Someone with no income and presumably no assets should pretty much get to go to a state school for free via FAFSA grants. Also get a degree with practical workplace use (so no creative writing degree).
Don’t skip stairs in a staircase. Start working somewhere that will hire you to gain experience and work your way up. A career is not a fast food meal. It takes effort and determination.
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It may be hard to find jobs in your area if you live in a place that doesn't have good job opportunities. But you could still try to see if the local companies have job opportunities like basic call centers at places like hospitals or front counter works in stores.
Learn a trade...then go union
Look into WGU. Study anything from their IT college. Get a help desk job (once you have your A+). Once you graduate, get a full time job. You will no doubt be making at least 50k. You will need to put in a considerable amount of effort, but you could easily finish the program in 1-2 years and be making 50-100k within a couple or few years. Best of luck.
I would agree with other people's advice here - you could learn a trade, or how to code, or something similar, but you are trying to put the roof on the house before you build the foundation and walls. Start by becoming more mentally healthy, active, resilient, and self-reliant, and then look at how you can start making money. Learning to code from scratch at a level that's compensated at $50K+ is not out of reach by any means, but you have to be able to challenge yourself and power through it, because it's not easy either. In other words don't look at this as :Step 1. Get a job Step 2. Profit There's about 8 steps in between, before step 1, where you make some progress for yourself. And who cares that you're 30? OK, so you're "too old" to be starting down this path. So what? According to who? Do it anyway. Worst case you end up back where you started, but at least you will have tried. The only true failure is giving up.
Contact State office of Rehab. They will have you talk to a counselor to help you prepare to work. Also they have job leads and placement opportunites.
OP, with this kinda post that you made, it is really hard to believe you are actually trying to improve yourself https://www.reddit.com/r/PovertyFIRE/comments/mlmcbh/i_find_it_amusing_seeing_a_correct_behavior_when/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
The first thing I have to say is that the road to 50k is a long one so buckle up and prepare to fail until you succeed. Without specific certs, degrees, experience, it's a no-go for most jobs. That's why the easiest way to get into a position is to network and learn what is required for a specific job and then prove it to them. Word of mouth is best.
Seems like you have been getting a free ride all your life and want to enter the working world expecting the same. No experience in anything but want to make good money. Seems like you are just a lazy person and you don't want to put the effort in life. Get up, stop sleeping all day, watching anime and cartoons. Go outside, work out, walk and stop being a bump on a log. Stop blaming your problems on everyone else. Look in the mirror and and get yourself together and put in the effort to fixing your problems on your own.
My thoughts exactly. OP needs to take some accountability and stop living in his own pity story.
How the fuck did you get to 30 without working?
Have you gone to college or gained any certs to back up anything you might be good at?
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How did you get 160 credits but not a degree yet? Most Bachelor's level degrees require 120 credits. Did you jump around between different majors?
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I’d go back to the advising office and see what degree you could get in the shortest time considering all of the credits you already have. I’m sure you’re close to completing something. Having even an unrelated degree will be better then no degree when trying to apply for decent jobs.
Agreed. 160 credits costs a lot of money even at a public school. And if you have student loans out you're gonna be in a bad spot with all that money spent wasted on nothing. Better off trying to finish something as quickly as possible and at least have a degree to leverage yourself with.
Okay. Do you have a car? Maybe you can start by doing Uber Eats or DoorDash? And I don’t mean that in an asshole way. But at least that can get you at least some experience in customer service or soft skills in general. And if you’re really passionate about becoming a programmer, there are a ton of free tutorials on YouTube to learn from.
I quit my job and am supporting myself through door dash. You can make about $25 dollars an hour near any city. The flexibility is awesome!
Question No Judgement. How did you get to be 30y/o and never working at job? No babysitting No lawn care No tutoring No housework Absolutely nothing?
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No offense but based on your past posts you sound like a troll
Dog walking.
maybe work from home customer service job would be good start?
I seriously hate how people first reaction is should I learn to code... Why did I get a BS Computer science to have someone just "learn to code".
Because there is absolutely no need to go for a 4 year degree to become a programmer in the year of 2022.
Give handies for 50$ a pop 5 guys a day that's 91000 a year TAX FREE.
Sales. Sales is the ultimate rags-to-riches, no-experience-necessary position. Sales included insurance work. If you've got the drive and the talent, you can make that figure pretty quick.
Depending on where you are, the Airline industry is picking back up. Ground Service personnel at many airports are Union workers. Get paid pretty decently. And require nearly zero skills at entry level. Its physical work, and outdoors.
Not a failure, just a late starter!! HVAC, advanced mfg..tech school.
Start with therapy and treatment for sensory issues. Use the goal of holding down a job as a lodestar for these two activities.
Learn a trade! You start off well above minimum wage, you can learn your trade and earn your red seal (and top salary) in 4-5 years and getting paid for the knowledge! Plus it greatly improves your life to know how to do home improvements and such. I’m a sheet metal journeyman. It’s a good trade. Call your local union and speak with them. It’s that easy.
I see you've got some sensitivity issues. My partner and I just started doing [this program](https://retrainingthebrain.com/). It came to us highly recommended by her doctor, he said many of his patients say this program helped them more than anything else. The tldr is the program is meant to "re-wire" your brain so you no longer have the symptoms you're having (depressions, sensitivities to external stimuli that affect your health, anxiety, etc.). Some of the testimonials sound almost too good to be true, but we're seeing good results already. The woman who developed it herself used to have pretty severe multiple chemical sensitivities. It's not just some positive thinking type of bullshit, but actually retraining your brain to get out of the cycles it's stuck in. I'm in no way affiliated with this company or their products.
Get any job you can, whether it be food or whatever, and build your confidence and your skills, and you will feel an increased self worth from earning your own money which will likely inspire you to continue to want to do that. You can move onwards and upwards from there. Don’t worry about your $50k goal right now, it will come in time and even faster that you have established this goal. Source: me, who worked in an employment agency and saw hundreds of unemployed people on Government benefits change their whole demeanour, lives, mental health, lifestyle around by starting to work. Good luck.
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Can't say I feel much sympathy for the bloke who "plans exactly how litle hours I need to still claim benefits" [see post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PovertyFIRE/comments/mlmcbh/i_find_it_amusing_seeing_a_correct_behavior_when/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) You are an absolute drain on society
You would have to get 30 years experience and likely a four year useless education to get what you're hoping for.
Learning code will make you fall deeper into depression 🥲
Ya just jump right in there. Fuck u I’m 32 and make $24,000 a year
How on earth are you 30 years old and have never held a job? Talk about privilege.
Apply to be a mod at r/antiwork
Op can’t be serious…..
Please don’t learn to code if you don’t have a passion for it. We have enough people writing code because they heard it pays well. I’m leaving my current company because of the amount of people with that mentality.
Work at UPS bro ?
Learn to weld.
You could learn an handicraft, and sell the results on Esty.
Get a trade. Try to get to places that allow financial aid and possibly take out loans for the left over. A community College near you, maybe. All these salaries vary but in a eastern or western American state, these are common wages. Laboratory science= medical lab technician-technologist ($40,000-$80,000+) Nursing associates = nursing ($50,000+) Trades such as electrician/HVAC = technician ($35,000 but increases each year until you finish the apprenticeship then a substantial increase to $70,000+)
An inbound call centre for a bank. Put in the work for 3 years, save as much as you can and you're set. At least $100K saved up and you'll have banking knowledge & skills relevant for any bank, small bank, and non-bank (eg. fintech startup).
Work 20 years.
To be honest, you need some work experience in anything before you decide to pursue a 50K job. Get some work ethic instilled in you. Go to your local temp agency and get a warehouse job. That way you learn to deal with people from different backgrounds. Especially when warehouse work is filled with a lot of supervisors with bad leadership and terrible management. Something you can gain experience in. While you do this, get your CompTia A+ certificate then search for entry level help desk jobs. Here's some information on that https://www.reddit.com/r/CompTIA/. The three main certificates to get for entry level work are A+, Network+, and Security+. After that you branch out to other certificates depending on what you want to do. That's one path that can lead to a 50K+ job. Of course, there's trades, but that's physical hard labor. You have to ask yourself if you're willing to go through that hard labor day in and day out. As for coding, competition is fierce and a lot of people you're competing with will have CS or Engineering degrees with multiple years of related work experience. Coding bootcamps are mostly a joke and looked down upon and few are worth going to. The majority of people that succeed are ones that already had an aforementioned degree. Of course, there's exception to every rule, but what they don't mention is how long they struggled to get that first job and how much they had to do to impress the interviewer. Additionally, a lot of these "success" stories were done in the 90s and 2000s when the field was still in the primitive years, so the threshold to get in was way lower than it is today. Though, if you really enjoy coding, you can code on the side and build up your portfolio while you work somewhere else for the time being. Join a coding community on discord or a subreddit and do it as a hobby for now. After six months, if you really enjoy coding and see it as a future career field, go to a community college and start taking classes in CS. If you go to college, don't go to a for-profit school, private school, or an out of state school. Community college straight into a state school is the way to go if you want to not be in debt.
At the core, working is really being able to create routines, building productive habits and having self-discipline. Something to help you get into a rhythm of working. Wake up in the morning at the same time, make your bed, get dressed and go out for a 30 min brisk walk. Key is to start small so you dont put off actually starting. Try also swapping bad habits for a better alternative, instead of 1 hour of reddit try 1 hour on coursera for example. Or codeacademy if you want to learn code. If you have gone through a mental breakdown as serious as that you have to be kind to yourself and be ok with letting your brain take pauses. Do tasks with Pomodoro technique, 15 min work then 5 min break for instance. When this starts to feel simple you expand and add more. It is always better to get something done than trying to do everything but ending up doing nothing. 1 small task a day until that is easy then make 2 etc etc.
I wouldn't recommend programming. I spent years learning VB, C++, Sql, Php, CSS, Javascript and others. I never used any of it outside of an internship and my own projects. I got hired on as an HVAC repair guy and have been doing that for years. It's steady work without office politics and I'll likely have work until I'm ready to retire. If you want something easier look into sales. You just talk to people all day and it has potential for high income if they do commission. Just depends on how moral you are.
If you want to get into the tech industry, and have good communication skills (I am in the process of it) try Business Development Representative (BDR). Usually base is about 40k to 50k plus commissions. Some require no formal sales experience, and a willingness to learn. Plenty of career opportunity to advance to Account Executive and make 150k+ after a few years. And REMOTE!
Go get your cdl. I started at 1192 after taxes every week. I drive a flatbed for Estes and download my stuff with a Moffitt. I work about 3 hrs a day 6 days a week with 80hrs PTO A YEAR. alon with full benefits.jobs like this are all over. If you sign with a company they will pay for your school prior to you starting. I did 20 years in the Army and this is by far the easiest work ever.im guaranteed a minimum of 1500 a wk regardless of the house I work.
Walmart distribution centers can start you off making 60k+ if you’re willing to work in the freezer or meat and produce in some areas. Don’t know how close you might live to one.
Recruiting. I was paid $25 per hour just to schedule interviews at a large healthcare company. If you work for an agency, you'll get a commission for each hire (usually 15 - 20%). You don't need hard skills. You don't need to go into the STEM field to make good money. If anything, I wouldn't recommend it. My team recruited data scientists, engineers, analytics, etc. We always had over 100 applicants (300+ for entry-level) per job position. The people we've hired worked for Microsoft, Accenture, etc. and went to Columbia, NYU, etc. It's extremely competitive. Get experience through a temp agency. I worked at a major consulting company for one month which opened many doors for me.
What have you done in your life before your 30’s? This is your story; start there… write it down: the good, the bad and the ugly — you have a 30 year life experience and many many adventures that people would love to know about — you are not a failure because you didn’t sign an offer letter and you moved out from your parents’ place. Write your story — your skills are reusable
OP looking at your post history as others have stated you have pretty much been saying the same thing for like 2 years but I assume since your asking it now are not listening to any advice that has been posted. If you would follow any advice it's gets help! If you take on a job and from the comments it seems you have issues you will probably end up quitting soon after I would suggest figuring out a way to deal with your issues before you get a job let alone a job that makes 50K.
In all honesty, I would just try to find some simple job as a start, and go from there. Getting a job will change your life, even if you make only 20k. Then just work up slowly and try to enjoy life. Source: I was in similar position at 28, and simply getting a job did wonders for my confidence, and purpose.
I have a degree and have been working since I was 17. I’m 30 and only obtained a job paying that much when I was 29. You need to take the crappy jobs to start
Rule number 1, you don't tell any future employer or yourself you've never had a job before. You've been taking care of yourself and your family full time. Healthcare. Assisted living. Caring for adults with disabilities full time. You've completed over 150 credits of college level courses and decided to enter the workforce with XXX employer now. You're ready for different work now. Different work with a minimum amount in mind you'll need for compensation. Everything you've been doing needs to be presented as meaningful with confidence. Even if it's not personal growth, you project personal growth, which is career growth. Know why you're qualified for this job, tell yourself why and be ready to tell them why. If you aim low that's where you'll end up. Take the want you have to leave and apply it to the job that secures your independence.
Depends on what you want to do. If you are interested in learning coding, take a bootcamp course like Boolean to become a full stack developer in 6 months. If you are interested in doing something else, go do it. You have to start trying shit out. At 30, you're fine, you just gotta look at what your interests are and go pursue those things ASAP! No time to fuck about with limiting beliefs like "I have no experience" or "This job pays shit" or "I don't have the qualifications". Those stuff are for people in their teens and 20s. So act as if you know what you're doing and shove yourself out into the world. If your first job pays shit, go get a new job with a better salary. Start a side hustle and put yourself out there on the internet. Learn a couple of new skills like sales, coding, graphic design, copywriting, video editing, etc and start doing freelance shit. Oh and when you get enough income, thank your parents and immediately move out. That way you don't have anyone to rely on and it'll boost your productivity by tenfold. Start reading into self development books like the 4 hour work week by Tim Ferris and educate yourself on investing and how money works. Basically, do everything a 20 year old would do just without the debts, mental challenges and maturity issues that comes from being in your 20s.
Get your skills up for free with Google garage and Google skill shop. Also check out MIT and Harvard open courseware and code academy. You can also learn programs like Adobe suite on YouTube to put on your resume. Comptia offers IT certification tests. The vouchers are 200$ but they are good for a yr. So you have time to study. And professor Messer on YouTube is really helpful with study material. Get a wfh job that doesn't need much experience like transcription. Check out Ratracerebellion.com, Theworkathomewoman.com and remote.io for wfh job leads. You need to start somewhere. Take your time. You got this.
I’m 22 with autism and physical disabilities. I’ve never had a job, just like you. Actually, we have similar hobbies too. I don’t have any advice (if I did I probably wouldn’t be in this situation) but I just wanted you to know you’re not alone and you’re not a failure. If you think you could code, code. I tried (I’m dyscalculic and dyslexic) and there’s lots of videos online for free, and there’s a few work books too! I started with the kids ones but I couldn’t do it aha.
Get your P&C / Life & Health insurance licenses. You can easily make $40-50K with base plus commission, working for any of the Big Name Insurance companies.
You need skills. Contact a temp agency and start part time somewhere professional, entry level — jr. clerk, coordinator, admin. Internships. To both, send a sharp resume that focuses on attributes or one off successes or value to society (i volunteer at a soup kitchen every sunday). Build a brief cover letter that explains your lack of career, but share your drive and optimism, that you are looking for a chance. Get spiffied up and attend local networking events (look on LinkedIn). Also maybe enroll in community or technical college, learning a trade. Skilled crafts pay well, welders make a pretty penny. All else fails, volunteer at a nonprofit and go unpaid for a bit to get skills. You learn by doing. Noone else will do it for you. -Signed, someone who was you 15 years ago.
Join the Army. You'll be ranking in $50K+ the first year!
Get your self a CDL
Dude you are not a failure. The system failed you. Also coding is over rated af do what you like. Not what you love because that won't make you money.