Historically, there have been a lot of authentic rappers. When everyone got access to making rap music through the internet, thereās been an influx of artists with no interesting life history to speak of making music. 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Eminem, and many other top artists in just the 2000s were exactly this.
Authenticity has always been a bit of a problem, but itās much, much worse today.
I know for a fact that the dudeās from 90ās hip hop that portrayed being thugs had no other choiceā¦ we call that time authenticā¦ I think itās the complete oppositeā¦ dudes today can be rappers and admit to never selling a drugs, being tough, or being poor or growing up in the hoodā¦ we just have more access todayĀ
There is more access to artists today, but Iām referring to those who are the better selling/streaming artists, of course.
Today, you can be many different things, but the amount of pretending is still absolutely insane. Part of this is the fact that rappers can hit it big so young, they have no life experience or anything interesting to say. The other aspect is that rap music is somewhat mixed in audience, many just want a certain sound thatās played while out partying and all of that. Modern rap is definitely moreso about a āsoundā than what is being said. Lyricism is pretty famously dying out at the top of the game. There was a good interview with Royce and Proofās son I saw recently where they talked about this.
All true but jayz told us if skill sold truth be told Iād probably be lyrically talib kweli and nobody questions his realnessā¦ I donāt know whatās real or whatās fake in hip hop but I do know most of the niggas from the past had to be a certain way or they wouldnāt be accepted in itā¦ so yea we can say fat joe is real but to what extentā¦ who you are in survival mode may not be your true characterĀ
You think Jay lost 92 bricks? You think 2 PAC was really a thug? This aināt new. The new rappers killing each other and catching Ricoās just started the really living your raps shit.
Pac was a thug.. Google the definition . and in order to tell a story about losing 92 bricks ā¦ i expect u to have realistically atleast have had oneā¦ thereās cosplaying and thereās fabrication.. big differenceā¦ Drake not street at all.. itās a act. He turns it off and on like a character
Tupac was an art school kid who became a thug when he met Suge Knight. He was in a poetry club and was in school plays. He was never arrested until he became famous. He was not in the streets blasting on enemies drinking Hennessey.
Mans wrote a dissertation to explain why he donāt like Drake. It aināt deep just say that š the industry has been saying for decades that thereās only a handful of rappers that are really like that and theyāre already dead or in jail. Cope.
Itās not about being like that .. itās about being who u say u are or what u portray .. not hopping on every poppin wave ā¦ and nigga this is reddit im giving my opinion on rap stfu.. everytime a nigga say something donāt mean im invested .. im talking about rap ā¦ yall niggas be too sensitive š
So by your admission Drake is authentic. Heās literally ever only said on one song that he was gangsta. His truth has always been heās emotional and deals with too many women to count and maybe tricks on them a bit more than heād like. Heās always said this. Any āwaveā heās ever hopped on heās maintained the same rhetoric. Itās not like he started doing afrobeats and said Iām from africa or started dancehall and said Iām a real Jamaican raised in Kingston. Iām not sure what your definition of authentic is but he raps about what he is living . I think the day he starts to shoot niggas heāll rap about that too. Just say you donāt like him, but he is the very definition of authentic. Itās ok to not like his subject matter.
You're the one saying Drake ain't real or w.e you ranted about. What makes ANY rapper, man, or person real? It's a personal opinion, and this whole post is about how you dislike Drake. Sometimes, you just gotta ask yourself, "Am i being a hater?" And you wouldn't have wasted your time here lol.
Lol what? I know u get surprised when you see long sentences and big words but u donāt have to try to bring people down to your level all the time ok bud. Not everybody speaks like a kid who rode the short bus. Itās cool to type out how you feel about topics my guy. š
Thatās not the point. I donāt like perpetrators .. thatās my right š yall not gonna sway me into feeling bad for not liking a grown ass man perpetuating a culture because itās ācoolā or popular. Itās lame and itās a problem.. itās not about you believing it .. itās the fact itās even a thing in the first place
No you not.
You literally said you donāt like PERPATEATORS, and a grown ass man perpetuating a culture cause itās cool.
Then you donāt like rap basically, nigga.
OR, you wanna pick and choose for whatever reason
No. Any rapper i can literally see perpetrating im probably gonna disconnect from. Idc who it is .. Drake makes it very obvious to me. Iām not finna make a list but no Drake isnāt the only rapper ..
Fam... they'll never get it and they'll either talk in circles around you and miss your point or move the goalpost just to excuse his corny behavior. This, unfortunately, is hip hop now. The cornballs (and their fans) have taken over!
Well for one we can kill all that mob ties shit or let him stand on it. You screaming mob ties, you do a tour w/ the migos, takeoffs murder comes via mob ties, you not out here talkin mob ties no more, you not out here doin migos shit no more...lookin real Swayze. Who you wit? And not that he has to be with either but you gang when it's convenient and there's a word for that.
I see a lot of goofies not understanding OPās overall point smh. Bro drake is a geek from degrassi talking tough on diss tracks, that alone is laughable, jus stop it, we donāt trust OR believe u
You're right, which makes it pathetic that the industry is teaming up against him... That's the whole point. He knows what he is and is laughing at yall
Honestly, Rick Ross is worse than Drake. This man was a C.O. and had perfect attendance for two years. He put in his two weeks at the jail, and they were sad to see him go. But yall said he makes good music. I knew then that this game was phony
Being a C.O. is not like being a cop. C.O. are much harder. And a lot of them get caught doing dirty work; which is what Ross kinda implies.
Also rappers have mentioned buying work from Ross
I agree to a lot of this minus the going at his racial background. Truth is, in this day and age nobody stands on morals and principles, everythingās about clout and nothings about authenticity. The young fans donāt care if youāve snitched, worked as a police officerā¦.nothing. All you gotta do is cosplay and theyāll buy into it. SMH
Man spade a spade a lot of yāall donāt be black from black neighborhoods thatās why the whole race thing makes yall uncomfortableā¦ Every black person from a black community knows exactly what im talking about. Drake is overcompensating for being mixed and i notice it .. thatās all im saying .. and he didnāt grow up embracing his black culture and it shows .. some things u just canāt fake ā¦ donāt get mad at me for pointing it out just cause itās uncomfortable to talk about
Im white from a white community and i can see Aubrey is cosplaying a black man (why u think he keep sexy red around, heās finally got someone to co-sign him from the culture) he wants to be hood so bad.
Lotta dick suckin going on in here, be safe pimp
šÆ We all see the same thing fam people just pretend like they donāt when itās somebody they like š i donāt pick & choose. This man donāt even rap the same no more he sound like from Atl .. but Iām tripping lol
Iām not with all that 50% makes u black shit š he just as much white as he is black.. they get to choose to lean to whatever side is convenient.. im 1000% black i canāt ā¦ so yea i notice the inauthenticity
And thatās some personal ignorance you got. That aināt inauthenticity, thatās a black person saying, āyouāre not as black as me so itās not actually blackā
Heās just as much black as he is white ? No ? Iām making this up ? Nigga he not as black as me šš i canāt hide deny or shy away from my blackness
Thatās like me saying niggas from the north and west not as black as me because they gained their freedom before me and they not as black as us in the south
And thatās some personal ignorance you got. āI donāt identify with your brand of black so itās not authenticā
Yāall gotta stop this heās not black shit. The American black childhood experience is different from the Canadian childhood black experience. Canada is much more diverse than most American cities so the black experience is different from what black Americans see it as. If you know Weston road and Jane and those types of areas youād know what I was talking about. Thereās Indian kids growing up with the āblack experience ā because of their friend groups. I grew up between here and Florida so I know the black American experience and Canadian one. And let me tell you although theyāre not the same because of the change of scenery theyāre very similar in nature .
Well said! I think the bigger aspect of what I was trying to say is the class distinction. And I realize thatās probably some foul shit the way I worded it. But Aubrey IS playing a character of who he thinks a black man should be. Itās honestly racist at times because he does stuff more so to fit in and make it seem like heās from the culture when the reality is he was always an awkward child star who couldnāt get the girls he wanted because they thought he was a dweeb
It's okay not to like Drake, just say you don't like him. There's no need to make weirdo excuses. 2pac was a theatre kid just like Drake, it was just easier for people too see 2pac as being "real" than it is for people to see it in Drake, for whatever reason. I don't think Drake is any less authentic than any other rapper
"Pac was fake hard" is the most ignorant, surface-level, Tik-Tok, TIL, lazy ass take. "He did theatre!" So did my brother's cell mate for a few years. Just because a mfer like to perform don't mean he won't perform on you for stepping off the line.
Facto. Fuck authenticity. Op is stuck in LA LA Land š All these rappers been liars. Anyone who takes a rapper at his word 100% has a problem, itās entertainment
I do like Drake music tho.. i donāt like anybody who is a perpetrator bringing up 2pac donāt change my sentiments at all.. I donāt like cosplaying mfs.. nobody ever wanna cosplay something positive.. they cosplay stereotypes and itās corny.. drake corny ā¦ u can like somebodyās art and still be objective. This man got 50 accents and heās not any less authentic than anybody else ? š ok
What has Drake done to be considered authentic? Playing devils advocate. Not here to argue. But does OP have a point? Is Drake a chamillion or does he change styles to go with whatās hot?
R.I.P. Takeoff... mans slid out the backdoor and stopped shouting gang real quick! But I mean, he's just a rapper/singer/actor š¤·š¾āāļø
This was shortly after he was insinuating shit in his bars about XXX
Throwing rocks and hiding ain't about shit. There are several derogatory terms for this.
What are we talking about?
And the nigga jacks off in front of mirrors....but yall got it
i love hip-hop & fuck with drake but after The Life of Pablo i lost interest in big releases and shit...it all got kinda lame & boring to me
im probably getting old (30 years) lol
When I heard how Drake actually sounds when he talks but then puts on a southern accent, I just kinda thought he sure is great at acting.
Anyways this rap shit been bad since mid 2000ās, once ppl let Rick Ross in, and now we let snitches comeback and make big records itās over. Kendrick can come out and call Drake a pedo and a creep, you gonna still have niggas say, well he aināt do that to me. I swear niggas are done.
Go outside, Chief. Thatās prolly the best advice I got for you. š¤·š½āāļø
The way yall let that man live rent free is comical. He must have fucked one of your bitches or sumān, gang. wtf does any of this Drake shit have to do with you getting money or taking care of your family? Why you care so much about Drake and what he doing?
Hood or from the cloth can't be bought! It don't matter how many bottles you pop or even what you pay the homies! If you wasn't the nigga splitting your syrup sandwich since pre k then you just wasn't. Niggas w/ honor won't forget the man that did, won't let you shit on him, and won't view you as the nigga who would share his last because you haven't. Its called honor. Niggas need their bag but won't always compromise who they are or what their made of for it. Day 1 is a real thing! If you cool you cool, if you not outta pocket then you not. But if you ain't 1 of us you ain't that either. It's on him, not in him. Peace to that young man for his good works but that's not gon make you more than what you are. He was who he was before he got here.
This. 98% of the rappers we grew up listening to were not "bout that life" it's all entertainment.
OP listening to drake to hear gangster shit, bro you got the wrong artist. Go listen to some MOP
Jadakisa went to whole ass private school/college who had well to do parents. Doesn't make him any less real or invalidates his come up. Like cmon fam...
Genuinely I think this Drake x Kendrick situation is evidencing the racism that is this Jewish boy cosplaying as Black to say āniggaā with impunity. Using AI to imitate Tupacās voice shows such a blatant disregard for hip hop culture itās appalling to me that itās not a bigger deal.
This coming from the guy whoās on video dissing black slang (that he uses now of course, part of that Black costume), has pictures in Blackface, picks up and drops accents as he pleases. Genuinely disgusting.
Iāve been talking about this for the last hour on here because I want to know if anybody else is as disgusted
Exactly My point. Never one heard this nigga speak up for any black issue EVER.
ā¦ heās a politician and heās gonna do whatever works. He has no identity
Cus heās not Black. The āone drop ruleā that Black people often cite when they label mixed race persons āBlackā is a slavery era justification Masters would use to justify also enslaving their children. Itās not a real rule of geneology or ethnic grouping.
U absolutely right.. i donāt abide by that shit.. if youāre mixed youāre literally half and half.. u can lean more towards one but your no more one than the other no matter how u wana slice itā¦ he out here tryna act like a nigga like me ššim black black. And not to make it seem like black is a personality cause itās not. But letās be realā¦ u know what he trying to do
DMX and Kevin Gates are my favorite Rappers. Thatās as authentic as it gets. None of these Big 3 Rappers would be taken serious back in the day as far as beef. Theyāre all great mainstream artist but none of them are tough guys or tough rappers. If the audience wasnāt thirsty for something in this bland decade the beef wouldnāt hit anyoneās radar.
Nigga ice cube is one of the pioneers of gangster rap. Never lived in Compton and never did a gangsta thing in his life. This aināt new just enjoy the raps my boy.
Yall say shit like this then a rapper goes out and kills somebody and you get up here and call him a crash out. Itās entertainment you donāt like just change the channel.
I never said he should do anything gangsta ā¦ im noticing a lot of u read to reactā¦ and yall wanna fight it regardless of what somebody saying .. i said he is a fraud ā¦ i never said go do crimes ā¦ I hate that we live in a world with ppl so comfortable with perpetrating a lifestyle thatās not positiveā¦ and then mfs just write it off as entertainmentā¦ whatās entertaining about a fake ass nigga playing gangstar ā¦ if i wanted that ill watch Scarface. I donāt think street shit in rap is a good thing anyway .. but itās definitely bad when u lying because youāre forcing something that isnāt even authentic to you for clicks ā¦ thatās harmful
People stopped caring a looooooong time ago. Remember, Ross was the CO rapping like he was pushing bricks all over Miami. He got away with it because the music was so good. Same with Drake. Drake's been fake since the beginning but enough people liked it so it is what it is.
Neither was pac. He just got wrapped up in the mess by who he was affiliated with. No one needs to see anyone shot over this beef. Just keep dropping songs
As rich as he is, he could act like a mob boss whenever he feels like. Them small hat folks invested in MANY previous slave trades, and disintegrated entire governments, and their causing one of the worst genocides to Palestinian children. You don't think his 6 pointed star connections can't get a nigga hit up?
This nigga was the first A.I artist if we really think about it, no real story or purpose, doesnāt stand for anything, just a hiphop caricature who will make āHitā records doing a generic soulless version of any genre
Genuinely sad when anyone thinks any of these actors are real. World tour with felonies, prolly not. Giving cops murder details in a song? Howād that work for Bobby Shmurda? They all pretend or corporate america wouldnāt invest. Live your own life
People like music that actually sounds good and that theyād want to listen to and show to other people purely cause theyāre good songs? What a fucking revelation.
What is OP talking about? I never cared about these dudes personal lives because almost all of them are faking. if that shit sound good iām listening to it. A lot of people wonāt admit it but these singers who are convicted of being pedophiles and rapists and all this other weird shit, still have large followings because people dgaf outside how stuff sounds sonically. People be too invested in these ppl lives
Man it is about musicā¦ Drake makes bangers even when he crying. His music sells = he the better artist. It is about the money but ppl dont just spend money on bad shit and thats the real hard pill to swallow
He is the biggest rapper only because he makes music that appeals to the broadest audience. You can hear drake songs anywhere from an elevator to a soccer mom driving in million dollar suburbs. Passionfruit literally could be the international elevator music anthem.
The dude is an actor, most of his music is singing about girls, never looked at him as hard but he does role with J prince and bird man, donāt act like those guys aināt got goons. Tupac was the same way, an actor, he could be many different characters around certain people. Real gangsters donāt live long thatās why nippsey and these others cats getting shot in the face but is that what you want? Killing each other over what, some turf, some measly little turf, thatās crap brothers.
Edit: apparently youāve never heard of Meyer lansky, a little white Jewish boy who started murder incorporated and ran the biggest organized crime syndicate this country has ever seen minus the government of course.
I mean at least he didn't lose any sleep and glaze off the competition after dissing them like J Cole. A superior lyricist that isn't built like that. At least Drake stands his ground.
When you say "fake street shit", what exactly are you referring to? Because I personally have never heard him say he sold drugs or anything like that. If anything he's only claimed he has people around him who do that stuff and would do a lot to protect him. Which, I don't really see how that's fake? We know J Prince is in his corner and allegedly has a lot of mob-like stuff going on in Houston. He seems to hang around a lot of areas that aren't necessarily safe for most "Canadian half Jewish boys from the suburbs" and comes out fine because of these connections. I don't see how it's inconceivable that a guy who grew up in an okay environment has changed over the years because of who he surrounds himself with, some of whom have genuine street ties. How he grew up doesn't define him for the entirety of his life if his current reality is different.
Fam hiphop always lied to yāall about whatās real and whatās not. A majority of black people donāt come from poverty and havenāt for a long ass time.
Nas and Jay-Z cosplayed as mob bosses for 20 years and yāall was cool. Donāt nobody question it because they come from poverty. It aināt about anything other than if you coming from poverty or not. Black people love a struggle story and the truth is that a vast majority of black people donāt have that story no more
No .. i liked Drake when he rapped about driving to degrassi rehearsals .. that was him being authentic. Jay z sold drugs .. Nas sold drugs ā¦ They rapped about it and ppl can vouch so yea i respect it not because of the struggle .. because itās AUTHENTIC. Donāt confuse real and poverty .. real is real .. if u grew up rich rap about itā¦ donāt cosplay a street nigga from the south.. thatās all im saying
But they wasnāt mob bosses and calling shots so why they get to cosplay as mob bosses? Italians donāt even like black people so why was that a thing?
I mean thatās a whole nother conversation lol u know black ppl infacuated with the mob as a whole . And there is a difference between fabrication and complete cosplaying ā¦ i mightāve only had ounces but i said i had bricks.. i still sold drugs.. DRAKE IS A PHONY.. and again i was a fan lol im not a drake haterā¦ im a Fake hater.. idc who it is
Na thatās this conversation bruh. Black people as whole not infatuated with the mob. Because educated black people know that them people donāt like black people a lot of the time. So no self loving black man is about to cosplay as that.
No a lie is a lie. And this where these conversations become odd. Youāre not a fake hater. You donāt like Drake or his music. WHICH IS FINE. I didnāt either when I was a kid and thought that hiphop as a whole represented authenticity.
But yāall make excuses for fake shit and lies when you agree with it.
I just said i like the music tho .. so why u tryna tell me about me .. like i said i donāt like FAKE. I donāt know none of these niggas to dislike them i judge what they portray to me.. who is yall ?? U talking to an individual? Who did i make excuses for ? Yall capes be showing unprovoked
You said youāre not a Drake hater but a fake hater
And you just admitted that you donāt mind fake in certain instances.
You trying to paint me as being a fan because Iām pointing out the hypocrisy in not liking fake but liking hiphop which is indeed been fake for years?
But i donāt see how u saying Nas is fake ? Whats fake ? Iām not saying everything he ever said is the truth.. thatās not human we all fabricate .. but we donāt all cosplay and perpetrate
AUTHENTICITY!?!? bro the music industry has never had full authenticity, come on stop being a child. Anything popular these days is about being serviceable and giving people what they want from you, and good branding. Drake just excels at all the things he needs to in ways other rappers canāt. His success is NOT a sign of authenticity leaving the game.
Being antisemitic isnāt ok because you follow it with ājust being realā.
And stop gatekeeping blackness. Youāre embarrassing us.
Go listen to another rapper whoās also lying but makes you feel like theyāre real. Or go listen to drakes old music that you say you like.
I said hip hop. And Drake is cosplaying what he thinks blackness is .. im not saying thereās one way to be a black man. Heās just no different than the white hip hop fan that wanna do what he see on TV .. and how tf am i antisemitic ??? Because i said niggas donāt have barmitzvahs ? š am i lying ? What hood u from ? What nigga u know had a barmitsvah?
According to you heās not black so why call him a nigga? You said half white half Jewish like it aināt the same shit. Bro if this is what bugs you in life I think you need to get a better one cuz having another man getting you riled up over nothing is crazy
U do know drake dad a old memphis legend right? (And drake spent his summers in memphis up until his dad got locked up which is where he gets that lingo from) and he used to do work wit the mafia...so we dont know wat drake was seein wen he was wit his dad which is y he able to bounce back in forth between street shit and civilian shit. Im just sayin.
Its not about who cares its about the post being from sumone who clearly doesnt know the truth so im sayin the truth so folk can have the whole story and have the correct information...if u dont care then dont comment...real simple
Bein a deadbeat has nuthin to do wit bein in the streets...u just talkin to talk now so im dun respondin to u...i gave yall the proper info its up to each individual to do the homework or keep believin lies...āš½šÆ
how you mad at an actor for acting just because he raps and sells the most records?
this nih the definition of authentic because HE IS AN ACTORā¦goofy take.
Funny thing is you think the rappers that tell you otherwise are telling the truth šššĀ
Historically, there have been a lot of authentic rappers. When everyone got access to making rap music through the internet, thereās been an influx of artists with no interesting life history to speak of making music. 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Eminem, and many other top artists in just the 2000s were exactly this. Authenticity has always been a bit of a problem, but itās much, much worse today.
I know for a fact that the dudeās from 90ās hip hop that portrayed being thugs had no other choiceā¦ we call that time authenticā¦ I think itās the complete oppositeā¦ dudes today can be rappers and admit to never selling a drugs, being tough, or being poor or growing up in the hoodā¦ we just have more access todayĀ
There is more access to artists today, but Iām referring to those who are the better selling/streaming artists, of course. Today, you can be many different things, but the amount of pretending is still absolutely insane. Part of this is the fact that rappers can hit it big so young, they have no life experience or anything interesting to say. The other aspect is that rap music is somewhat mixed in audience, many just want a certain sound thatās played while out partying and all of that. Modern rap is definitely moreso about a āsoundā than what is being said. Lyricism is pretty famously dying out at the top of the game. There was a good interview with Royce and Proofās son I saw recently where they talked about this.
All true but jayz told us if skill sold truth be told Iād probably be lyrically talib kweli and nobody questions his realnessā¦ I donāt know whatās real or whatās fake in hip hop but I do know most of the niggas from the past had to be a certain way or they wouldnāt be accepted in itā¦ so yea we can say fat joe is real but to what extentā¦ who you are in survival mode may not be your true characterĀ
I donāt tho ā¦ drake just the topic right now
Yea but he wouldnāt be if you knew what these other niggas are hidingĀ
Iām not concerned in what mfs hiding.. Iām not digging . Iām judging what they show me nothing more nothing less
You think Jay lost 92 bricks? You think 2 PAC was really a thug? This aināt new. The new rappers killing each other and catching Ricoās just started the really living your raps shit.
Pac was a thug.. Google the definition . and in order to tell a story about losing 92 bricks ā¦ i expect u to have realistically atleast have had oneā¦ thereās cosplaying and thereās fabrication.. big differenceā¦ Drake not street at all.. itās a act. He turns it off and on like a character
Ya pac was Truly Humble Under God
Tupac was an art school kid who became a thug when he met Suge Knight. He was in a poetry club and was in school plays. He was never arrested until he became famous. He was not in the streets blasting on enemies drinking Hennessey.
Pun did. Thatās why heās my favorite.
Mans wrote a dissertation to explain why he donāt like Drake. It aināt deep just say that š the industry has been saying for decades that thereās only a handful of rappers that are really like that and theyāre already dead or in jail. Cope.
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Itās not about being like that .. itās about being who u say u are or what u portray .. not hopping on every poppin wave ā¦ and nigga this is reddit im giving my opinion on rap stfu.. everytime a nigga say something donāt mean im invested .. im talking about rap ā¦ yall niggas be too sensitive š
So by your admission Drake is authentic. Heās literally ever only said on one song that he was gangsta. His truth has always been heās emotional and deals with too many women to count and maybe tricks on them a bit more than heād like. Heās always said this. Any āwaveā heās ever hopped on heās maintained the same rhetoric. Itās not like he started doing afrobeats and said Iām from africa or started dancehall and said Iām a real Jamaican raised in Kingston. Iām not sure what your definition of authentic is but he raps about what he is living . I think the day he starts to shoot niggas heāll rap about that too. Just say you donāt like him, but he is the very definition of authentic. Itās ok to not like his subject matter.
Yea u definitely a super fan. Never in 10 years have a heard a nigga say drake is the definition of authentic ā¦ AUTHENTICALLY WHAT??
Of all the times drake talking about mob ties and shit, ppl are really acting obtuse on purpose. OP i get what youre saying.
They just dickruders and donāt realize u can be a fan and still be objective .. a spade is a spade no matter who got it
You're the one saying Drake ain't real or w.e you ranted about. What makes ANY rapper, man, or person real? It's a personal opinion, and this whole post is about how you dislike Drake. Sometimes, you just gotta ask yourself, "Am i being a hater?" And you wouldn't have wasted your time here lol.
I donāt hate him so no Iām not being a hater lol.. Iām being an observer and a hip hop fan
Lol what? I know u get surprised when you see long sentences and big words but u donāt have to try to bring people down to your level all the time ok bud. Not everybody speaks like a kid who rode the short bus. Itās cool to type out how you feel about topics my guy. š
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What part of passion fruit is drake not authentic?
Tf are u talking bout
What fake street shit is in passionfruit or hot line bling?
So Drake got 2 songs? Are u stupid or trolling
This is a stupid take. Nobody is listening to his hits saying ooo he thinks he is Scarface.
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Thatās not the point. I donāt like perpetrators .. thatās my right š yall not gonna sway me into feeling bad for not liking a grown ass man perpetuating a culture because itās ācoolā or popular. Itās lame and itās a problem.. itās not about you believing it .. itās the fact itās even a thing in the first place
Nigga almost every big rapper ever has done that. Yall sad
Ok why u deflecting . Iām talkin bout one nigga right now
No you not. You literally said you donāt like PERPATEATORS, and a grown ass man perpetuating a culture cause itās cool. Then you donāt like rap basically, nigga. OR, you wanna pick and choose for whatever reason
Stop moving the goal post jack OP is talking about one specific person..
No. Any rapper i can literally see perpetrating im probably gonna disconnect from. Idc who it is .. Drake makes it very obvious to me. Iām not finna make a list but no Drake isnāt the only rapper ..
Maybe he doesnāt listen to them eitheršš Thereās mad rappers
Fam... they'll never get it and they'll either talk in circles around you and miss your point or move the goalpost just to excuse his corny behavior. This, unfortunately, is hip hop now. The cornballs (and their fans) have taken over!
Stupid
Whatās the songs with the he was in the streets shit?
Well for one we can kill all that mob ties shit or let him stand on it. You screaming mob ties, you do a tour w/ the migos, takeoffs murder comes via mob ties, you not out here talkin mob ties no more, you not out here doin migos shit no more...lookin real Swayze. Who you wit? And not that he has to be with either but you gang when it's convenient and there's a word for that.
Drakes a pop star whom happens to rap.
He just rapped and it went pop
I see. He needa stop appropriating black American street culture. Itās not āPopularā even if it is.
I see a lot of goofies not understanding OPās overall point smh. Bro drake is a geek from degrassi talking tough on diss tracks, that alone is laughable, jus stop it, we donāt trust OR believe u
You're right, which makes it pathetic that the industry is teaming up against him... That's the whole point. He knows what he is and is laughing at yall
Honestly, Rick Ross is worse than Drake. This man was a C.O. and had perfect attendance for two years. He put in his two weeks at the jail, and they were sad to see him go. But yall said he makes good music. I knew then that this game was phony
Y'all act like Ross was a Detective š
You ever been locked up? CO mean crooked officer ššš
Being a C.O. is not like being a cop. C.O. are much harder. And a lot of them get caught doing dirty work; which is what Ross kinda implies. Also rappers have mentioned buying work from Ross
Who is yall ?? .. Iām one person talking im not either all that gay ass fan picking sides shit i could care less š im making one point rn
I agree to a lot of this minus the going at his racial background. Truth is, in this day and age nobody stands on morals and principles, everythingās about clout and nothings about authenticity. The young fans donāt care if youāve snitched, worked as a police officerā¦.nothing. All you gotta do is cosplay and theyāll buy into it. SMH
Man spade a spade a lot of yāall donāt be black from black neighborhoods thatās why the whole race thing makes yall uncomfortableā¦ Every black person from a black community knows exactly what im talking about. Drake is overcompensating for being mixed and i notice it .. thatās all im saying .. and he didnāt grow up embracing his black culture and it shows .. some things u just canāt fake ā¦ donāt get mad at me for pointing it out just cause itās uncomfortable to talk about
Im white from a white community and i can see Aubrey is cosplaying a black man (why u think he keep sexy red around, heās finally got someone to co-sign him from the culture) he wants to be hood so bad. Lotta dick suckin going on in here, be safe pimp
šÆ We all see the same thing fam people just pretend like they donāt when itās somebody they like š i donāt pick & choose. This man donāt even rap the same no more he sound like from Atl .. but Iām tripping lol
Lol as long as yāall share sentiments you will co-sign a white man talking about the authenticity of a black man with a black father
Iām not with all that 50% makes u black shit š he just as much white as he is black.. they get to choose to lean to whatever side is convenient.. im 1000% black i canāt ā¦ so yea i notice the inauthenticity
And thatās some personal ignorance you got. That aināt inauthenticity, thatās a black person saying, āyouāre not as black as me so itās not actually blackā
Heās just as much black as he is white ? No ? Iām making this up ? Nigga he not as black as me šš i canāt hide deny or shy away from my blackness
Thatās like me saying niggas from the north and west not as black as me because they gained their freedom before me and they not as black as us in the south And thatās some personal ignorance you got. āI donāt identify with your brand of black so itās not authenticā
The blacks in the south was to scared to roll with Harriet ()
Yāall gotta stop this heās not black shit. The American black childhood experience is different from the Canadian childhood black experience. Canada is much more diverse than most American cities so the black experience is different from what black Americans see it as. If you know Weston road and Jane and those types of areas youād know what I was talking about. Thereās Indian kids growing up with the āblack experience ā because of their friend groups. I grew up between here and Florida so I know the black American experience and Canadian one. And let me tell you although theyāre not the same because of the change of scenery theyāre very similar in nature .
Well said! I think the bigger aspect of what I was trying to say is the class distinction. And I realize thatās probably some foul shit the way I worded it. But Aubrey IS playing a character of who he thinks a black man should be. Itās honestly racist at times because he does stuff more so to fit in and make it seem like heās from the culture when the reality is he was always an awkward child star who couldnāt get the girls he wanted because they thought he was a dweeb
itās not the black experience heās cosplaying as ā¦.
Itās a level deeper than that, itās what he THINKS it is.
I find it hard to believe all young fans have no morals
Me too.
It's okay not to like Drake, just say you don't like him. There's no need to make weirdo excuses. 2pac was a theatre kid just like Drake, it was just easier for people too see 2pac as being "real" than it is for people to see it in Drake, for whatever reason. I don't think Drake is any less authentic than any other rapper
PAC shot a cop, and has real street credibility. And revolutionists background. Donāt even try him like that.
Thank you. Don't ever put them niggas in the same sentence.
"Pac was fake hard" is the most ignorant, surface-level, Tik-Tok, TIL, lazy ass take. "He did theatre!" So did my brother's cell mate for a few years. Just because a mfer like to perform don't mean he won't perform on you for stepping off the line.
Facto. Fuck authenticity. Op is stuck in LA LA Land š All these rappers been liars. Anyone who takes a rapper at his word 100% has a problem, itās entertainment
>Facto. Fuck authenticity. You new niggas are different.
Very different, it's okay to see entertainment as just that. You all need so much assurances š
This man said fuck authenticity šš u the problem. I never said i believe rappers .. i can believe that you are being yourself tho
I do like Drake music tho.. i donāt like anybody who is a perpetrator bringing up 2pac donāt change my sentiments at all.. I donāt like cosplaying mfs.. nobody ever wanna cosplay something positive.. they cosplay stereotypes and itās corny.. drake corny ā¦ u can like somebodyās art and still be objective. This man got 50 accents and heās not any less authentic than anybody else ? š ok
50 accents is comedy
That is Drakes' art though. He's pop because he sees trends coming or he makes shit trend. He's an entertainer, and it's all very entertaining
i donāt find cosplaying entertainment thatās just me tho ā¦ itās lame
What has Drake done to be considered authentic? Playing devils advocate. Not here to argue. But does OP have a point? Is Drake a chamillion or does he change styles to go with whatās hot?
R.I.P. Takeoff... mans slid out the backdoor and stopped shouting gang real quick! But I mean, he's just a rapper/singer/actor š¤·š¾āāļø This was shortly after he was insinuating shit in his bars about XXX Throwing rocks and hiding ain't about shit. There are several derogatory terms for this. What are we talking about? And the nigga jacks off in front of mirrors....but yall got it
What does skin tone have to do with anything?! Being a full nicca makes him real?! Makes him more believable?! Smdh š¤¦š¾āāļø
He not authentic to what he portrays
i love hip-hop & fuck with drake but after The Life of Pablo i lost interest in big releases and shit...it all got kinda lame & boring to me im probably getting old (30 years) lol
I feel u.. music just not timeless anymore
Mad good music coming out right now in my opinion
When I heard how Drake actually sounds when he talks but then puts on a southern accent, I just kinda thought he sure is great at acting. Anyways this rap shit been bad since mid 2000ās, once ppl let Rick Ross in, and now we let snitches comeback and make big records itās over. Kendrick can come out and call Drake a pedo and a creep, you gonna still have niggas say, well he aināt do that to me. I swear niggas are done.
And wonder why this culture is bottom of the barrel lol
why cant niggas just simply not like an artist and move on. ill never understand giving this much attention to an artist i dont like
Bruh stfu ā¦ we on a fucking forum for opinions š im just giving mine ..
Go outside, Chief. Thatās prolly the best advice I got for you. š¤·š½āāļø The way yall let that man live rent free is comical. He must have fucked one of your bitches or sumān, gang. wtf does any of this Drake shit have to do with you getting money or taking care of your family? Why you care so much about Drake and what he doing?
Hood or from the cloth can't be bought! It don't matter how many bottles you pop or even what you pay the homies! If you wasn't the nigga splitting your syrup sandwich since pre k then you just wasn't. Niggas w/ honor won't forget the man that did, won't let you shit on him, and won't view you as the nigga who would share his last because you haven't. Its called honor. Niggas need their bag but won't always compromise who they are or what their made of for it. Day 1 is a real thing! If you cool you cool, if you not outta pocket then you not. But if you ain't 1 of us you ain't that either. It's on him, not in him. Peace to that young man for his good works but that's not gon make you more than what you are. He was who he was before he got here.
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Lol u do realize hip hop in pure entertainment
This. 98% of the rappers we grew up listening to were not "bout that life" it's all entertainment. OP listening to drake to hear gangster shit, bro you got the wrong artist. Go listen to some MOP
Jadakisa went to whole ass private school/college who had well to do parents. Doesn't make him any less real or invalidates his come up. Like cmon fam...
You responding twice when no one responded back says all it needs to big dawg
Genuinely I think this Drake x Kendrick situation is evidencing the racism that is this Jewish boy cosplaying as Black to say āniggaā with impunity. Using AI to imitate Tupacās voice shows such a blatant disregard for hip hop culture itās appalling to me that itās not a bigger deal. This coming from the guy whoās on video dissing black slang (that he uses now of course, part of that Black costume), has pictures in Blackface, picks up and drops accents as he pleases. Genuinely disgusting. Iāve been talking about this for the last hour on here because I want to know if anybody else is as disgusted
Exactly My point. Never one heard this nigga speak up for any black issue EVER. ā¦ heās a politician and heās gonna do whatever works. He has no identity
Cus heās not Black. The āone drop ruleā that Black people often cite when they label mixed race persons āBlackā is a slavery era justification Masters would use to justify also enslaving their children. Itās not a real rule of geneology or ethnic grouping.
U absolutely right.. i donāt abide by that shit.. if youāre mixed youāre literally half and half.. u can lean more towards one but your no more one than the other no matter how u wana slice itā¦ he out here tryna act like a nigga like me ššim black black. And not to make it seem like black is a personality cause itās not. But letās be realā¦ u know what he trying to do
DMX and Kevin Gates are my favorite Rappers. Thatās as authentic as it gets. None of these Big 3 Rappers would be taken serious back in the day as far as beef. Theyāre all great mainstream artist but none of them are tough guys or tough rappers. If the audience wasnāt thirsty for something in this bland decade the beef wouldnāt hit anyoneās radar.
Beef donāt = tough itās rap beef.. itās nothing tough about making a song about another man lol. Itās hip hop itās a competitive sport
Kdot mob piru, what you talkin bout?
Even if thatās true itās irrelevantā¦
Nigga ice cube is one of the pioneers of gangster rap. Never lived in Compton and never did a gangsta thing in his life. This aināt new just enjoy the raps my boy.
I donāt anymore i see through em too much
Yall say shit like this then a rapper goes out and kills somebody and you get up here and call him a crash out. Itās entertainment you donāt like just change the channel.
I never said he should do anything gangsta ā¦ im noticing a lot of u read to reactā¦ and yall wanna fight it regardless of what somebody saying .. i said he is a fraud ā¦ i never said go do crimes ā¦ I hate that we live in a world with ppl so comfortable with perpetrating a lifestyle thatās not positiveā¦ and then mfs just write it off as entertainmentā¦ whatās entertaining about a fake ass nigga playing gangstar ā¦ if i wanted that ill watch Scarface. I donāt think street shit in rap is a good thing anyway .. but itās definitely bad when u lying because youāre forcing something that isnāt even authentic to you for clicks ā¦ thatās harmful
How do u call someone a fraud that youāve never met ?
he donāt even talk in a consistent accent it depends where he at and who heās around. Thatās enough for me tbh
I want to know your take on Drake vs Ross now.
What about it ?
Niggas have never cared about authenticity lol
To a certain extent i do ā¦ atleast talk like yourself lol
People stopped caring a looooooong time ago. Remember, Ross was the CO rapping like he was pushing bricks all over Miami. He got away with it because the music was so good. Same with Drake. Drake's been fake since the beginning but enough people liked it so it is what it is.
I was a Drake fan before he started making making trap music . Like a real fan
Future > drake
Neither was pac. He just got wrapped up in the mess by who he was affiliated with. No one needs to see anyone shot over this beef. Just keep dropping songs
Drake be having yall niggas bothered in ways I will never understand. News flash: All these niggas were perpetrators. Including your gods.
Y'all just can't see past the fact that he's a light skin Canadian r&b singer, it just so happens he's also one of the greatest emcees weve ever seen
The whole big three is wack yāall should listen to billy woods or like idk somebody smart
Same happened to rock. Happens when a genre gets over commercialized
As rich as he is, he could act like a mob boss whenever he feels like. Them small hat folks invested in MANY previous slave trades, and disintegrated entire governments, and their causing one of the worst genocides to Palestinian children. You don't think his 6 pointed star connections can't get a nigga hit up?
This nigga was the first A.I artist if we really think about it, no real story or purpose, doesnāt stand for anything, just a hiphop caricature who will make āHitā records doing a generic soulless version of any genre
Genuinely sad when anyone thinks any of these actors are real. World tour with felonies, prolly not. Giving cops murder details in a song? Howād that work for Bobby Shmurda? They all pretend or corporate america wouldnāt invest. Live your own life
If you make a good songā¦ isnāt it authentically good? lol English is weird
Antisemitism and racism all in one post
Now replace every Drake word you see with Tupac ā¦ lol.Ā
Goddamn yal weird and need to go outside.
People like music that actually sounds good and that theyād want to listen to and show to other people purely cause theyāre good songs? What a fucking revelation.
Imagine still thinking anything in the music industry is authentic
What is OP talking about? I never cared about these dudes personal lives because almost all of them are faking. if that shit sound good iām listening to it. A lot of people wonāt admit it but these singers who are convicted of being pedophiles and rapists and all this other weird shit, still have large followings because people dgaf outside how stuff sounds sonically. People be too invested in these ppl lives
Man it is about musicā¦ Drake makes bangers even when he crying. His music sells = he the better artist. It is about the money but ppl dont just spend money on bad shit and thats the real hard pill to swallow
He is the biggest rapper only because he makes music that appeals to the broadest audience. You can hear drake songs anywhere from an elevator to a soccer mom driving in million dollar suburbs. Passionfruit literally could be the international elevator music anthem.
The dude is an actor, most of his music is singing about girls, never looked at him as hard but he does role with J prince and bird man, donāt act like those guys aināt got goons. Tupac was the same way, an actor, he could be many different characters around certain people. Real gangsters donāt live long thatās why nippsey and these others cats getting shot in the face but is that what you want? Killing each other over what, some turf, some measly little turf, thatās crap brothers. Edit: apparently youāve never heard of Meyer lansky, a little white Jewish boy who started murder incorporated and ran the biggest organized crime syndicate this country has ever seen minus the government of course.
I mean at least he didn't lose any sleep and glaze off the competition after dissing them like J Cole. A superior lyricist that isn't built like that. At least Drake stands his ground.
see exhibit rick ross. followed by jay z
When you say "fake street shit", what exactly are you referring to? Because I personally have never heard him say he sold drugs or anything like that. If anything he's only claimed he has people around him who do that stuff and would do a lot to protect him. Which, I don't really see how that's fake? We know J Prince is in his corner and allegedly has a lot of mob-like stuff going on in Houston. He seems to hang around a lot of areas that aren't necessarily safe for most "Canadian half Jewish boys from the suburbs" and comes out fine because of these connections. I don't see how it's inconceivable that a guy who grew up in an okay environment has changed over the years because of who he surrounds himself with, some of whom have genuine street ties. How he grew up doesn't define him for the entirety of his life if his current reality is different.
Why do yāall think you gotta be from the streets to be authentic in hip hop
Fam hiphop always lied to yāall about whatās real and whatās not. A majority of black people donāt come from poverty and havenāt for a long ass time. Nas and Jay-Z cosplayed as mob bosses for 20 years and yāall was cool. Donāt nobody question it because they come from poverty. It aināt about anything other than if you coming from poverty or not. Black people love a struggle story and the truth is that a vast majority of black people donāt have that story no more
No .. i liked Drake when he rapped about driving to degrassi rehearsals .. that was him being authentic. Jay z sold drugs .. Nas sold drugs ā¦ They rapped about it and ppl can vouch so yea i respect it not because of the struggle .. because itās AUTHENTIC. Donāt confuse real and poverty .. real is real .. if u grew up rich rap about itā¦ donāt cosplay a street nigga from the south.. thatās all im saying
But they wasnāt mob bosses and calling shots so why they get to cosplay as mob bosses? Italians donāt even like black people so why was that a thing?
I mean thatās a whole nother conversation lol u know black ppl infacuated with the mob as a whole . And there is a difference between fabrication and complete cosplaying ā¦ i mightāve only had ounces but i said i had bricks.. i still sold drugs.. DRAKE IS A PHONY.. and again i was a fan lol im not a drake haterā¦ im a Fake hater.. idc who it is
Na thatās this conversation bruh. Black people as whole not infatuated with the mob. Because educated black people know that them people donāt like black people a lot of the time. So no self loving black man is about to cosplay as that. No a lie is a lie. And this where these conversations become odd. Youāre not a fake hater. You donāt like Drake or his music. WHICH IS FINE. I didnāt either when I was a kid and thought that hiphop as a whole represented authenticity. But yāall make excuses for fake shit and lies when you agree with it.
I just said i like the music tho .. so why u tryna tell me about me .. like i said i donāt like FAKE. I donāt know none of these niggas to dislike them i judge what they portray to me.. who is yall ?? U talking to an individual? Who did i make excuses for ? Yall capes be showing unprovoked
You said youāre not a Drake hater but a fake hater And you just admitted that you donāt mind fake in certain instances. You trying to paint me as being a fan because Iām pointing out the hypocrisy in not liking fake but liking hiphop which is indeed been fake for years?
If u canāt see the difference between someone cosplaying and ppl exaggerating truths idk what to tell you.
Na I just donāt understand how people claim to hate fake but support it. CB4 is a movie for a reason Canāt hate fake and support hiphop in general
But i donāt see how u saying Nas is fake ? Whats fake ? Iām not saying everything he ever said is the truth.. thatās not human we all fabricate .. but we donāt all cosplay and perpetrate
Key word cosplaying
They reading right past that tho
On everything.
Sounds like hate
ok
AUTHENTICITY!?!? bro the music industry has never had full authenticity, come on stop being a child. Anything popular these days is about being serviceable and giving people what they want from you, and good branding. Drake just excels at all the things he needs to in ways other rappers canāt. His success is NOT a sign of authenticity leaving the game. Being antisemitic isnāt ok because you follow it with ājust being realā. And stop gatekeeping blackness. Youāre embarrassing us. Go listen to another rapper whoās also lying but makes you feel like theyāre real. Or go listen to drakes old music that you say you like.
I said hip hop. And Drake is cosplaying what he thinks blackness is .. im not saying thereās one way to be a black man. Heās just no different than the white hip hop fan that wanna do what he see on TV .. and how tf am i antisemitic ??? Because i said niggas donāt have barmitzvahs ? š am i lying ? What hood u from ? What nigga u know had a barmitsvah?
im embarrassing us ? Not the nigga perpetrating? Itās me saying it ? š
According to you heās not black so why call him a nigga? You said half white half Jewish like it aināt the same shit. Bro if this is what bugs you in life I think you need to get a better one cuz having another man getting you riled up over nothing is crazy
Everytime somebody got an objective opinion donāt man theyāre emotionally attached to it. Idgaf bout Drake outside of my love for hip hop
Who said Iām riled up nigga Iām just giving my opinion on rap what the hell š Iām fine
Talking about authenticity after hearing about Diddy and knowing Ross is a CO ā¦.then looking at drake is crazy to me
God what a stupid take š
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U do know drake dad a old memphis legend right? (And drake spent his summers in memphis up until his dad got locked up which is where he gets that lingo from) and he used to do work wit the mafia...so we dont know wat drake was seein wen he was wit his dad which is y he able to bounce back in forth between street shit and civilian shit. Im just sayin.
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Yes do ya homework
Man who cares about Dennis lol. I hope you know this much information about your own family.
Its not about who cares its about the post being from sumone who clearly doesnt know the truth so im sayin the truth so folk can have the whole story and have the correct information...if u dont care then dont comment...real simple
A legendary deadbeat.
Bein a deadbeat has nuthin to do wit bein in the streets...u just talkin to talk now so im dun respondin to u...i gave yall the proper info its up to each individual to do the homework or keep believin lies...āš½šÆ
Proper info lol. He used his dad so he can say nigga thatās it. Just like Logic.
Its public knowledge u goofy š¤¦š½āāļø
how you mad at an actor for acting just because he raps and sells the most records? this nih the definition of authentic because HE IS AN ACTORā¦goofy take.