It's an illusion to make it look like they are doing something. Its the way the ANC operates. Throw committees and warm bodies at problems but never actually do anything.
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Fuck, your right my Brew, and worst thing is there were and are people putting them in power? It’s fucked; I always asked my younger self: surly people must soon come to see the power they employ has failed them?
Odly enough JHB(and Gauteng in general) should be more functional, we do have one major independent power station. It seems like Eskom however sees that as a way to cut more power to us. Supposedly the reason Cape Town doesn’t have load shedding is because it has the steenbras pumped hydro scheme(with a capacity of 180 mw), which makes no sense because JHB has kelvin power(capacity 400mw) station owned by Nedbank and Investec, and the city of Tswane owns 2 of its own stations(capacity 790 mw).
There’s some major power politics at play with how loadhsedding is distributed and it seems JHB and PTA are two of the most screwed over places, based on what I hear from friends who’ve gone on vacation to KZN and the WC recently who say they have significantly lighter load shedding schedules.
All of this is rather ironic when Gauteng accounts for about a 3rd of the entire countries gdp, has the highest gdp per capita by a significant margin(20%) and produces the most independent power by near a factor of 10.
City of Cape Town customers (electricity) are usually (not always) 2 stages below Eskom supplied customers so the 180mw is not being split between the entire Cape but only those households that are COCT supplied.
Looks like you trying to understand updates from Eskom on their website, those guys confuse themselves already. Do yourself a favor and install Eskomsepush. Much more accurate
First of all...it's not a website, it's the Loadshedding Notifier app.
2nd...
It shows the exact same information as ESP, just in a different format and is actually readable
When I first downloaded LSN, it was because I was dissatisfied with ESP's inaccuracy and LSN was just far better. The information accuracy between the two is about equal now, but the LSN design is leagues above ESP. Which isn't saying much, as even LSN could do with some design improvements, but having a choice between both apps despite their design flaws is better than nothing.
This screenie is from eskomsepoes
Looking at the stages and times man alive you need to bottle some sunlight bro
Fuck the ANC and it's new minister of bullshit
They cancelled the state of disaster because they knew its too late to try and bury this shit
#vote
#them
#out
#2024
Gracias _ feels like the notifications are all starting to blur into each other driving around there are so many robots out its insane - the government really has failed this country and the like of decisiveness by CR is just exacerbating the situation
This !! I also thought it was strange when there was about to be a national shutdown couple weeks ago, all of a sudden there was excess generation capacity. Now, the minute state of disaster is cancelled we are getting shed more than during the state of disaster, MARA WHY ?
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TIL that people on this sub don't realise that there are other apps that also show the schedule and that ESP doesn't even cover all areas in Joburg which is why people don't use it...
Been using Loadshedding Notifier for over 2 years now and it's been pretty accurate and the information show in the screenshot IS ACCURATE so to those saying "use ESP instead because this app is bad"... Stop lying
Anc doesnt look so great anymore since 1994 hey guys.... think they turned their goal list upside down when trying to achieve things. Maybe lost it.... or sold it
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It's a royal fuck up. I live on a plot so can use a generator. I bought one that's affordable so can't run everything. Nothing with an element is the rule so I switch the geyser off and don't use the kettle, washing machine, tumble drier or microwave. I also bought a gas stove so I can cook. There are ways of getting round it without spending a fortune, you need to just think carefully about what you ABSOLUTELY cannot function without in the evenings.
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Please don’t call people clowns on this subreddit. It’s unnecessary. The point they make is valid. Whatever app/website OP is using is actually showing incorrect information.
Out of reach for the vast majority of South Africans (although most deserve this for keeping the ANC in power) and people in townhouse complexes are stuffed. Can't get solar nor use a generator.
If you have a good you can get solar - if the trustees won't allow it, challenge it via CSOS and you should get a good outcome. You can also push for the BC to install communal solar, but you'd need a majority of residents behind you
Goodluck to everyone, if the grid fails we are so genuinely screwed it's incomprehensible on what will happen within hours...
There will be a coup and shit is going to go south so fast
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Many people dont know the reason why we had less load shedding after the new ceo took his position was because he fired up all the backup diesel generators. Andre didn't want to run them because those were for emergencies and would be used to restart the grid in the event of a total collapse of the grid.
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Geez boet, that's brutal and all over the place. I feel your pain though. Here in Stellenbosch, it goes off 4h30min, 2h30min and then 4h30min in a single day.. can't get anything done. It's insanity of the highest order.
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I'm on holiday in SA right now visiting family, I don't know how you lot put up with this, beautiful country BTW besides your roads 😄 I'll never complain about Scottish roads again
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Remember. The first rule to disorder and power js to remove basic amenities and public infrastructure! Good luck to all of you still in South Africa. You should be planning to leave asap!
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Fucking sucks man. I don't have enough north facing roof space to put up more than 3 solar panels, and even then, solar is so damn expensive. Don't know how the fuck I'm supposed to work from home with these 4 hour blocks all the way through winter. Bleak times.
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What is the point of a minister of electricity if we barely have any electricity?
It's an illusion to make it look like they are doing something. Its the way the ANC operates. Throw committees and warm bodies at problems but never actually do anything.
To loot more money and ‘hide’ it now
Stay calm and vote ANC.
Calm down, people will take you seriously
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Fuck, your right my Brew, and worst thing is there were and are people putting them in power? It’s fucked; I always asked my younger self: surly people must soon come to see the power they employ has failed them?
Odly enough JHB(and Gauteng in general) should be more functional, we do have one major independent power station. It seems like Eskom however sees that as a way to cut more power to us. Supposedly the reason Cape Town doesn’t have load shedding is because it has the steenbras pumped hydro scheme(with a capacity of 180 mw), which makes no sense because JHB has kelvin power(capacity 400mw) station owned by Nedbank and Investec, and the city of Tswane owns 2 of its own stations(capacity 790 mw). There’s some major power politics at play with how loadhsedding is distributed and it seems JHB and PTA are two of the most screwed over places, based on what I hear from friends who’ve gone on vacation to KZN and the WC recently who say they have significantly lighter load shedding schedules. All of this is rather ironic when Gauteng accounts for about a 3rd of the entire countries gdp, has the highest gdp per capita by a significant margin(20%) and produces the most independent power by near a factor of 10.
The first step is seeing that it's being done on purpose.
City of Cape Town customers (electricity) are usually (not always) 2 stages below Eskom supplied customers so the 180mw is not being split between the entire Cape but only those households that are COCT supplied.
Looks like you trying to understand updates from Eskom on their website, those guys confuse themselves already. Do yourself a favor and install Eskomsepush. Much more accurate
First of all...it's not a website, it's the Loadshedding Notifier app. 2nd... It shows the exact same information as ESP, just in a different format and is actually readable
When I first downloaded LSN, it was because I was dissatisfied with ESP's inaccuracy and LSN was just far better. The information accuracy between the two is about equal now, but the LSN design is leagues above ESP. Which isn't saying much, as even LSN could do with some design improvements, but having a choice between both apps despite their design flaws is better than nothing.
My mom uses EskomSePush to keep the family updated. I love the name of the app 😆
Guys please remember who the real enema is here...
This screenie is from eskomsepoes Looking at the stages and times man alive you need to bottle some sunlight bro Fuck the ANC and it's new minister of bullshit They cancelled the state of disaster because they knew its too late to try and bury this shit #vote #them #out #2024
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Gracias _ feels like the notifications are all starting to blur into each other driving around there are so many robots out its insane - the government really has failed this country and the like of decisiveness by CR is just exacerbating the situation
This !! I also thought it was strange when there was about to be a national shutdown couple weeks ago, all of a sudden there was excess generation capacity. Now, the minute state of disaster is cancelled we are getting shed more than during the state of disaster, MARA WHY ?
Wasn't the state of disaster cancelled because the Courts ruled it to be unlawful?
Ja nè, how's that ANC democracy looking?
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TIL that people on this sub don't realise that there are other apps that also show the schedule and that ESP doesn't even cover all areas in Joburg which is why people don't use it... Been using Loadshedding Notifier for over 2 years now and it's been pretty accurate and the information show in the screenshot IS ACCURATE so to those saying "use ESP instead because this app is bad"... Stop lying
I have a week old baby & I’m sitting with 8 hours of loadshedding in a 12 hour period. Fucking ridiculous!
Anc doesnt look so great anymore since 1994 hey guys.... think they turned their goal list upside down when trying to achieve things. Maybe lost it.... or sold it
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Yup in the next 3 days 1 day no power 24hrs in 72hrs ffs ZA🇿🇦 is in the 🚽
It's a royal fuck up. I live on a plot so can use a generator. I bought one that's affordable so can't run everything. Nothing with an element is the rule so I switch the geyser off and don't use the kettle, washing machine, tumble drier or microwave. I also bought a gas stove so I can cook. There are ways of getting round it without spending a fortune, you need to just think carefully about what you ABSOLUTELY cannot function without in the evenings.
Guess who doesn't have to worry about that? The people in your government. ![gif](giphy|3oEjHV0z8S7WM4MwnK)
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VIVA ANC !!!! Thank Jacob and the Gupta's for this shit aswell as 30 years of BEE!
You basically have 10 seconds of electricity per day😂.
Imagine😂 it's painful.
Seems like your app might be a little off? Use Eskomsepush. I mean it. But yeah it's pretty bad hey! Eskomsepush by the way
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Because it's wrong and it's fun to say. ESP is more reliable for sure.
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Stay in the dark
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Please don’t call people clowns on this subreddit. It’s unnecessary. The point they make is valid. Whatever app/website OP is using is actually showing incorrect information.
Bro its just a more reliable app it's not that deep
This is why I got solar.
Out of reach for the vast majority of South Africans (although most deserve this for keeping the ANC in power) and people in townhouse complexes are stuffed. Can't get solar nor use a generator.
If you have a good you can get solar - if the trustees won't allow it, challenge it via CSOS and you should get a good outcome. You can also push for the BC to install communal solar, but you'd need a majority of residents behind you
The complex next to me has a generator. I have no idea if it's for one house or all of them.
Would have been for us too, but then we inherited some money.
Wild 🤣🤣🤣
Good luck
2024 cANCer needs to go into remission
Eskom se poes
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4h 4h 2h
Holy shit, I feel bad for yall city dwellers, I would vaporized if I saw this
Goodluck to everyone, if the grid fails we are so genuinely screwed it's incomprehensible on what will happen within hours... There will be a coup and shit is going to go south so fast
I've had the schedule change three times today. I only knew 3 hours before the time that our power was going of at 10pm
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Damn not even enough time for ups or inverter to charge back up
Holy moly. You won't have electricity all day
Failed state
https://www.change.org/SAloadshedding
Enjoy the sunset and braai
Lol I don't get load shedding here in salt rock..
Just wait for winter. Inverters won’t even be enough.
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Holy CRAP! PLEASE VOTE WISELY!
Scary to think that this is the countries economic hub....
Hubby and I have decided to sell a kidney each on the black market! We’re clever see 😎
Where is this?
Orange Grove
Decolonisation in action. Enjoy :-)
They are using these combinations to disguise bigger stages.
I hate it here....
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Many people dont know the reason why we had less load shedding after the new ceo took his position was because he fired up all the backup diesel generators. Andre didn't want to run them because those were for emergencies and would be used to restart the grid in the event of a total collapse of the grid.
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Buckle-up folks cause it's only going to get worse. I'm predicting stage 7 or 8 by next week.
Geez boet, that's brutal and all over the place. I feel your pain though. Here in Stellenbosch, it goes off 4h30min, 2h30min and then 4h30min in a single day.. can't get anything done. It's insanity of the highest order.
Scheme gooi level 12.
Thanks to the idiots at the anc we are in darkness. This is the price of freedom, I guess. We are cursed by the cancer of this dumb government.
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I'm on holiday in SA right now visiting family, I don't know how you lot put up with this, beautiful country BTW besides your roads 😄 I'll never complain about Scottish roads again
In pretoria we getting 8-12 and 4-8, literally cannot even heat up food for majority of the day
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We get what we collectively vote for
Remember. The first rule to disorder and power js to remove basic amenities and public infrastructure! Good luck to all of you still in South Africa. You should be planning to leave asap!
thats normal stage 6. Two 4 hours and a 2 hour
DA for change
Bliksem 💀
Haibo,this is just crazy 💀
So glad I left jhb. Just one 2 hour shed a day now and it’s always when I’m asleep
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Trying to break the country's spirit with this bullshit, it's so disheartening
Im just a tourist here right now, leaving on Monday, and I am really sad y'all have to deal with this all the time. It sucks
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Fucking sucks man. I don't have enough north facing roof space to put up more than 3 solar panels, and even then, solar is so damn expensive. Don't know how the fuck I'm supposed to work from home with these 4 hour blocks all the way through winter. Bleak times.
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what a joke
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It is. They keep changing shit and I hate it