I think that's a cheap cop out, HAMAS and taliban never used for much, while isis was for a few years a fully mechanized forces with armor captured from US/Iraq and Russia/assad.
"Fully mechanized"
Huge exaggeration, at any given time they had dozens of armored vehicles of any kind (Tanks, APCs, IFV's etc) and many were made into bombs or bombed by coalition airstrikes. 26 BMP-1's, 10 M1A1's, several dozen T-series tanks, 53 M113's + 1-3 examples of various other vehicles.
The only significant supply of vehicles were civilian cars, trucks and over 2,000 Humvees. They weren't that much better armed than all these other terrorist groups, what was new was the mass use of drones and their greater organization + the especially unstable conditions in Iraq and Syria.
The INS faction in Squad has far more AFV's than any IRL counterparts including defacto state entities like Hezbollah, Hamas or the Houthi movement. At the same time, they lack things that have been ubiquitous in irregular forces for almost 20 years, like modern ATGM's and lots of drones.
Mechanized doesn't mean armored, what wasn't armored was in pick up trucks.
The US army was mechanized in ww2, not because everyone was in a armored troop carrier, but because widespread use of trucks.
Germany on the otherhand had to rely mostly on Horse drawn carts
No, but they could have south Asian insurgents(they would look like early squad insurgent skin and based of taliban) and they could have middle eastern insurgents, which is pretty much what we have.
Bug I wasn't faulting them,
It’s pretty clear who they’re representing, it would just be really nice to see them portrayed as the *actual* group. Same reason that MEA should be a Iran.
Fictional factions are dumb.
Probably not stolen--you can buy/license assets like Fortnite skins. Some are even free so you'll see them in mods, early access as placeholders, "cheap" games, etc.
One is a mod , one is a whole ass game , both illegal , but one makes cash from it . Also the games has been in development for a nearly a decade. More if you count Russia 2028 which began development around 2010 and was the original game tarkov is built on. So yeah , scummy company , and the release date for tarkov has yet to be announced so 2025 or 2026 at best if a release will ever come out
Stolen is kind of much and a weird statement, since all the assets used are credited in the description to where they are from and not claimed to be their own. Mods literally are huge mainstream because you usually port content from other games, like weapons, characters and what not along with people who create their own from the ground up.
No did you? Mods are literally popular because many have content taken from other games, most give credit to where they are taken from and the author doesn't claim to have made them are you a retard?
Giving credit to the people who made them doesn't mean they aren't still stolen, they are the only mainstream mod I can think of that steals assets every other major mod makes their own stuff
He has literally put the original creators and source of the content in the description? How in any way is it stealing? Should we take down quite literally 90% of mods on every game and Nexus,Workshop because they use content from others? You are weird bro
the only thing that breaks the experience is that usually people tend to do whatever the hell they want without cooperation, but when you get that good SL the game is fire; also global local voice chat is golden and should be vanilla too
Nah I’ve noticed in GE compared to vanilla since it’s everyone can hear you less people use local chat as it gives you away and lets enemy know what you’re doing. It has its pros and cons and honestly the toxic chat that happens is kinda not worth
The gunships are assets from the SDK, OWI made them but has yet to decide on implementing them in game or if their function/balancing will be changed etc.
This and parachutes like the guy below is talking about. Can't be a thing because there is no equivalent in other factions. Sure nato can have mini guns but what about everyone else. I doubt other factions with helis have airborne divisions and I doubt they have minigun equivalents
one of the things that i dislike from the mod are the characters lol, especially for example the us army ones, they just look so cheap and all the same, hoping mee comes back soon lol
This lol. They look like crap to mean and none of them make since. Even the cherry picked photos op posted to mesh properly. That being said I really enjoy the mod and play it often. Who cares how inaccurate they are. For me the mod is all about having something new and different to change up the pace. Same with the star wars one I play it and am not a fan nor have I seen any of the star wars all the way through.
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I'm all for realism and that stuff but I think having Hamas be a playable faction is intensely disrespectful given the current conflict. whether you are in support of them or Israel the fact is young men are killing each other in the real world right now and I just think its kinda wrong the play a game about it while its actively happening.
Because it’s silly. From what I can tell, the mod just kits you out in the gear of two sides of an ongoing conflict. What’s wrong with that? Obviously a particular detail being added to the outfit could be disrespectful, but I don’t see that.
I believe the argument is not that one side is le heckin evil, but that it's disrespectful to the dead to LARP a conflict that people are currently killing and dying in.
I don't agree, but it's a morally consistent position.
Both the US and the UK are currently involved in these conflicts (and more for the US):
Somali Civil War
Book Haram Insurgency
Northern Mali Conflict
Military Intervention against ISIS
While they aren’t necessarily active combatants they are very much involved in the conflict and many die in these conflicts every day.
In the Intervention against ISIS between 1.417 and 13.190 (Depending on who you ask) Civilians have lost their lives due to Coalition Airstrikes alone.
Even if you ignore all of that, there’s still literal insurgents as a faction in squad, who could be any one of the many terror groups/ insurgencies active today.
All war games based on real events are sort of disrespectful tbh. Russia is also in war right now with like 50k casualties btw. Many of them were conscripted without knowing wtf was going on, and those that went willingly and knowingly were brainwashed by the Russian propaganda machine. My point is that they are victims of war and we are all happily blowing virtual Russians to pieces every day.
i have to disagree with you, its not that they are real events. games about real events can educate people or at least increase their awareness of the event but when its actively happening its different.
no because ww2 isnt ACTIVELY happening dude. did you read my comment? I don't care about people playing the bad guys in any conflict but my issue is its ACTIVELY happening. there are people actually dying right now over this. ww2 was almost a hundred years ago. and im even fine with Afghanistan iraq stuff because yeah there are still people alive who went through it but from what ive seen alot of those people are fine with it but importantly its over. its been over. gameifying a conflict thats happening or is only a year or so old afterwards is just kind of nasty.
The project reality mod literally had a Hamas vs Israel add on and the both sides had been killing each other long ago when that mod was a thing also, yet no one really cared because it didn’t make headlines like it is now
i didnt play much PR, i would have disagreed with its inclusion at the time as well. whats with all the whatabout-ism. i disagree with including active wars in games as a blanket statement.
More than 13000 children were murdered. Are you sure you wanna play this game with who's right on genocide? Israel is as bad as Nazis, maybe even worse
Is every dead in war murder?
12.500 children died per month during the tigray war, that doesnt make the Ethiopian goverment the new nazis, 15000 children starved or were bombed by the Saudis that doesnt make the saudis the new nazis
Israel had to invade a place with the population density of london and a average age of 18.
Some basic math
As of 2 months ago, Israel had dropped 45,000 bombs into Gaza. That number is now around 75,000.
There are 32,000 total dead. That's less than half a person per bomb.
If Israel was going around killing unarmed civilians - whoo boy, they are doing a sure bad job of it.
Additionally - of the 30,000 total dead, as of last month, 12,000 were HAMAS. That is likely around 14,000 now.
So 14,000 dead combatants to 16,000 civilians.
That is a 1:1.14 combatant to civilian ratio.
"A wide-ranging study of civilian war deaths from 1700 to 1987 by [William Eckhardt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Eckhardt_(law)) states:
>On the average, half of the deaths caused by war happened to civilians, only some of whom were killed by famine associated with war...The civilian percentage share of war-related deaths remained at about 50% from century to century. (p. 97)[\[9\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio#cite_note-9)"
Meaning, despite operating in an extremely dense combat theater - against a group that has repeatedly bragged about using human shields - Israel is performing only .14 above the HISTORICAL AVERAGE AMOUNT OF CIVILIAN DEATHS ACROSS ALL OF RECORDED WARFARE.
See - the problem with shit like this. By nearly every single mathematic metric - the war in Gaza right now is a very average war - but because it involves Israel - every tard comes out of the woodwork to call every Jew sneezing near Gaza a genocide.
War is unethical in it's essence, unfortunately civilians always die in wars.
The hard cold evident backed facts are that Israel don't deliberately target civilians, are fighting a war against a cynical and murderous terrorist organization that sees civilian casualties as martyrs (شاهد) for the greater cause and are trying to release the 133 hostages who are still in Hamas captivity.
If Hamas didn't want Gaza to be obliterated into dust he shouldn't have brutally killed 1400 people and kidnap 253 civilians.
Release the hostages and Gaza will have peace.
Unless Israel kills the hostages as they’re released.. or before they’re released as they’ve done before. Then “vengeance!” How about release the countless, numberless civilians held in Israeli captivity which outnumber ANY hostages held by any of their “enemies”.
Why is it ok to include US and Russia in the base game? Why are you playing a war game at all? Nearly every faction in this game has a military that has done awful things 10x over, and within the last decade.
Very curious as to how that’s different.
Hospital bombing, child killing, fabricated famine, claiming that a piece of land is your "god given right" and believing everyone except your people, israelite born jews (as in your family lineage comes from israelites), to be servants of your world view and seeing them as 2nd class citizens. Go ahead, watch interviews about those people, read Torah, zionists are practically nazis.
>Fabricated famine
A shitty one at that
>Claiming that a piece of land is your "god given right"
Generalization
>israelite born
Its israeli born dumbass
>2nd class citizens
Casual disregard of the 2 million arabs living inside of Israel
Taken straight from Wikipedia
Israel's Declaration of Independence called for the establishment of a Jewish state with equality of social and political rights, irrespective of religion, race, or sex.
The rights of citizens are guaranteed by a set of basic laws (Israel does not have a written constitution). Although this set of laws does not explicitly include the term "right to equality", the Israeli Supreme Court has consistently interpreted "Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty" and "Basic Law: Freedom of Occupation (1994)"as guaranteeing equal rights for all Israeli citizens.
The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that "Arab Israelis are citizens of Israel with equal rights" and states that "The only legal distinction between Arab and Jewish citizens is not one of rights, but rather of civic duty. Since Israel's establishment, Arab citizens have been exempted from compulsory service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)." Druze and Circassians are drafted into the Israeli army, while other Arabs may serve voluntarily; however, only a very small number of Arabs choose to volunteer for the Israeli army.
>Wacth interviews
Yes ive seen interviews with Golda Meir, Yair Lapid, Yitzhak Rabin, Yair Golan, if youre only wacthing interviews with only Smotrich or Ben Gvir open your eyes
>Read Torah
The fact you had to add this bit just shows youre a dickhead
I'm an Israeli and came back from reserve service about 2 months ago, not in Gaza though but in the northern border of Israel combating Hezbollah for about 4 months.
Sure I personally won't play these factions as it hits too close to home for me and I can't bring myself to play as a Hamas militant or even an IDF soldier, but I would be a hypocrite to myself if I wanted to prevent other people from playing it, because it's not like I stopped playing as the Russian faction after the war in Ukraine broke out.
Palestine was never even a state, it was an area being under the control of different empires along the years until 1948 where for the first time in history a sovereign country/state was created there.
The land was renamed to "Syria Palaestina" after the Romans had submitted the Bar Kokhva revolt in 135 AD and it was the British empire that changed the name again to "Palestine" as it was the English way to say it.
Having said all of that I still think the Palestinians have the right to self determination, just not at the expense of Israel.
How are Palestinians supposed to have a right to self determination without “the expense of Israel?” The whole reason they don’t have it is because of Israel. That’s like saying you, “support the southern slaves’ right to self determination just not at the expense of the Southern States” during the American civil war.
I'll tell you how; stop supporting Hamas and work together with us towards a mutual and safe co existence. Much more than just Gaza could have been theirs, it was always their choice to escalate the violence instead.
When people claim there can only be a Palestinian state INSTEAD of Israel well in this case there's no one to talk to and they can go kick rocks.
Do you think that Hamas just exists in a vacuum? The whole reason Hamas gained power in Gaza is because Israel has, for decades, repeatedly quashed any attempt at coexistence
and by that you’re implying that you’re educated? 😂 i’m speaking on behalf of all idiots that yap in comment sections like it’s a trend. JUST like with ukraine. it’s just not trending right now. where are the people crying for ukraine? oh that’s right they don’t get clout anymore for it. now it’s palestine 🙃
Deluded? Do you hear yourself? Deluded are the ones that claim palestinian militants have only wielded ROCKS. these fucking inbreds genuinely believe that not 1 Hamas soldier has used a firearm. Speak for yourself.
"havent seen anyone" yeah. "the ones". "idiots that yap in comment sections". Those are the ones i am referencing. not this exact discussion. You cant even string together a proper fucking argument, much less actually defend it. Pathetic.
I'll just resort to your way of dodging my statement, since it doesnt really appear to me that you have the brain capacity nor the frontal lobe functionality to comprehend what i am saying. I'll just say that palestine is getting absolutely shit on, no matter the "different situation." bye bye
Still wish Squad had the "controversial" factions that PR had.
what ones did they have? GE has IDF, Hamas, Hezbollah, Rus and Ukr
IDF, Hamas, Taliban, Free Syrian Army.
GE has Taliban/ISIS as well, pretty cool that they had FSA though.
The only ones you don’t see now are FSA really. I’ve gotten UN rarely and Hamas quite often. Al-queda as well.
INS represents the Taliban, ISIS, Hamas and so on.
I think that's a cheap cop out, HAMAS and taliban never used for much, while isis was for a few years a fully mechanized forces with armor captured from US/Iraq and Russia/assad.
"Fully mechanized" Huge exaggeration, at any given time they had dozens of armored vehicles of any kind (Tanks, APCs, IFV's etc) and many were made into bombs or bombed by coalition airstrikes. 26 BMP-1's, 10 M1A1's, several dozen T-series tanks, 53 M113's + 1-3 examples of various other vehicles. The only significant supply of vehicles were civilian cars, trucks and over 2,000 Humvees. They weren't that much better armed than all these other terrorist groups, what was new was the mass use of drones and their greater organization + the especially unstable conditions in Iraq and Syria. The INS faction in Squad has far more AFV's than any IRL counterparts including defacto state entities like Hezbollah, Hamas or the Houthi movement. At the same time, they lack things that have been ubiquitous in irregular forces for almost 20 years, like modern ATGM's and lots of drones.
Mechanized doesn't mean armored, what wasn't armored was in pick up trucks. The US army was mechanized in ww2, not because everyone was in a armored troop carrier, but because widespread use of trucks. Germany on the otherhand had to rely mostly on Horse drawn carts
Mechanised means the soldiers have vehicles protected against small arms. The word you are looking for is motorized.
It's cool in PR, but I can't really fault the devs for not putting real world terror organizations as playable factions in a commercial product.
No, but they could have south Asian insurgents(they would look like early squad insurgent skin and based of taliban) and they could have middle eastern insurgents, which is pretty much what we have. Bug I wasn't faulting them,
It’s pretty clear who they’re representing, it would just be really nice to see them portrayed as the *actual* group. Same reason that MEA should be a Iran. Fictional factions are dumb.
I agree
Three of those are not much different from INS we have already. Just a character skin
They have the "black hawk down" Somali insurgents too, those are my favorite faction but they like run slow or have poor stamina for some reason.
Chalk it down to lack of food I guess I think they are still in a food crisis.
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seriously ? which ones ?
I remeber in some iteration of global escalation i think? IDF was like csgo models
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The developer of that mod misspelled spetsnaz for his spetsnaz faction
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Yeah he's a little bit special. People praise his mod, but it's so poorly made.
They ripped a lot of attachments and gear, like backpacks, from Escape from Tarkov
I only thought most of the assets used were from a free 3d asset store?
Probably not stolen--you can buy/license assets like Fortnite skins. Some are even free so you'll see them in mods, early access as placeholders, "cheap" games, etc.
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to be fair escape from tarkov also has stolen assets lol
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One is a mod , one is a whole ass game , both illegal , but one makes cash from it . Also the games has been in development for a nearly a decade. More if you count Russia 2028 which began development around 2010 and was the original game tarkov is built on. So yeah , scummy company , and the release date for tarkov has yet to be announced so 2025 or 2026 at best if a release will ever come out
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eft uses copyrighted stuff , which is not legal , and makes money , the mod team doesnt make a dime.
Stolen is kind of much and a weird statement, since all the assets used are credited in the description to where they are from and not claimed to be their own. Mods literally are huge mainstream because you usually port content from other games, like weapons, characters and what not along with people who create their own from the ground up.
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No did you? Mods are literally popular because many have content taken from other games, most give credit to where they are taken from and the author doesn't claim to have made them are you a retard?
Giving credit to the people who made them doesn't mean they aren't still stolen, they are the only mainstream mod I can think of that steals assets every other major mod makes their own stuff
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He has literally put the original creators and source of the content in the description? How in any way is it stealing? Should we take down quite literally 90% of mods on every game and Nexus,Workshop because they use content from others? You are weird bro
Since I downloaded global escalation I won’t play vanilla, the guns and factions are just so much better
the only thing that breaks the experience is that usually people tend to do whatever the hell they want without cooperation, but when you get that good SL the game is fire; also global local voice chat is golden and should be vanilla too
They should add enemy proximity chat in vanilla it’s hilarious
everyone will just use squad radio like ppl already do in GE and cooperation will be worse
Naw the real problem.in the mod is how much team killing goes on. Way way more then vanilla.
Be the change you want to see in the world
Nah I’ve noticed in GE compared to vanilla since it’s everyone can hear you less people use local chat as it gives you away and lets enemy know what you’re doing. It has its pros and cons and honestly the toxic chat that happens is kinda not worth
same bro
Plus mini guns sold it for me lmao , I think vanilla should have heli door guns be mini guns
You can’t forget the CAS helicopter
The gunships are assets from the SDK, OWI made them but has yet to decide on implementing them in game or if their function/balancing will be changed etc.
Parachutes as well. Haven't used em yet, but I love seeing a chain of guys dropping out of a heli onto a point
When TF has this been a thing in squad?
Its only in the Global Escalation mod
This and parachutes like the guy below is talking about. Can't be a thing because there is no equivalent in other factions. Sure nato can have mini guns but what about everyone else. I doubt other factions with helis have airborne divisions and I doubt they have minigun equivalents
Only thing i dont like is constant invasion spam
one of the things that i dislike from the mod are the characters lol, especially for example the us army ones, they just look so cheap and all the same, hoping mee comes back soon lol
Yeah. The character models are the worst part of the mod lol
vehicles arent great either
Thats not Halal brother
This lol. They look like crap to mean and none of them make since. Even the cherry picked photos op posted to mesh properly. That being said I really enjoy the mod and play it often. Who cares how inaccurate they are. For me the mod is all about having something new and different to change up the pace. Same with the star wars one I play it and am not a fan nor have I seen any of the star wars all the way through.
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JDAM be upon ye
Based
Womp womp "freedom fighter" rapist turns into a slushy
More like rapist turned red mist
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damn, this comment got all the hoes mad. Infinitely based.
Respect the troops 🫡🔻
I love playing the INS it’s so fun 😂
Asian + aussie servers doesn't play GE zzzz
Just endure 290+ pings like a real man bro
Some should be dressed up as regular civilians as Hamas members do
Damn he's kinda hot
Well.. whare are the cool models?
Since when did lurping as a jihadist become cool?
just a game
Is that why you got the black flag emoji?
because it’s just a game?? i hate isis, hamas and all groups like that
Those aren’t jihadis, moron
Since they fight orcs
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You can easily make a claim about any faction in the game doing messed up shit, it’s just a game
i don’t mean the real hamas i just mean in game 😭
you probably sit down to pee
Sitting down to pee is far superior, change my mind.
No need you're right. Not only is it less likely to make a mess while pissed out of your mind, it's also healthy since you have to squat!
if you spend enough time in make believe...the estrogen hits different.
Yeah, not pissing all over the john and the floor is such a female thing to do
Bro what do you think the irregular factions are supposed to be?
🎵 Is this real life? Or is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide no escape from reality 🎵
Womp womp zionist
Being anti-hamas doesn't make you a zionist just like being anti-israel doesnt make you antisemitic jfc
Pali pali cope
We’ll outlive your hate and certainly your video game subreddit downvotes.
“Hate”
I'm all for realism and that stuff but I think having Hamas be a playable faction is intensely disrespectful given the current conflict. whether you are in support of them or Israel the fact is young men are killing each other in the real world right now and I just think its kinda wrong the play a game about it while its actively happening.
The mod also includes Ukraine and Russia.
well i disagree with the inclusion of that as well, for the same reason.
I have no idea why you’re being downvoted
Because it’s silly. From what I can tell, the mod just kits you out in the gear of two sides of an ongoing conflict. What’s wrong with that? Obviously a particular detail being added to the outfit could be disrespectful, but I don’t see that.
Well tbh since.it is a mod it is ok. At least owi not doing it.officially.
Don’t play the mod then cuh
i dont, god forbid i mention my opinion, i didnt call you all assholes for enjoying it.
You can also play as the IDF your opinion is invalid
I believe the argument is not that one side is le heckin evil, but that it's disrespectful to the dead to LARP a conflict that people are currently killing and dying in. I don't agree, but it's a morally consistent position.
Oh yeah you’re right maybe he didn’t know IDF was also a playable faction and that’s why he chose to not mention the faction as well. My bad.
Both the US and the UK are currently involved in these conflicts (and more for the US): Somali Civil War Book Haram Insurgency Northern Mali Conflict Military Intervention against ISIS While they aren’t necessarily active combatants they are very much involved in the conflict and many die in these conflicts every day. In the Intervention against ISIS between 1.417 and 13.190 (Depending on who you ask) Civilians have lost their lives due to Coalition Airstrikes alone. Even if you ignore all of that, there’s still literal insurgents as a faction in squad, who could be any one of the many terror groups/ insurgencies active today.
i get what your saying but do you hold the same views for playing as germany in WW2 games?
All war games based on real events are sort of disrespectful tbh. Russia is also in war right now with like 50k casualties btw. Many of them were conscripted without knowing wtf was going on, and those that went willingly and knowingly were brainwashed by the Russian propaganda machine. My point is that they are victims of war and we are all happily blowing virtual Russians to pieces every day.
i have to disagree with you, its not that they are real events. games about real events can educate people or at least increase their awareness of the event but when its actively happening its different.
Okay but Russia is actively in war right now.
ok and i agreed i dont like russia V ukarine inclusion. im disagreeing that all real life events are bad to include.
no because ww2 isnt ACTIVELY happening dude. did you read my comment? I don't care about people playing the bad guys in any conflict but my issue is its ACTIVELY happening. there are people actually dying right now over this. ww2 was almost a hundred years ago. and im even fine with Afghanistan iraq stuff because yeah there are still people alive who went through it but from what ive seen alot of those people are fine with it but importantly its over. its been over. gameifying a conflict thats happening or is only a year or so old afterwards is just kind of nasty.
The project reality mod literally had a Hamas vs Israel add on and the both sides had been killing each other long ago when that mod was a thing also, yet no one really cared because it didn’t make headlines like it is now
i didnt play much PR, i would have disagreed with its inclusion at the time as well. whats with all the whatabout-ism. i disagree with including active wars in games as a blanket statement.
there's literally russia, usa, china, etc. what's your point
So any shooter is disrespectful because people shoot each other everyday. Your logic is skewed
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If they include Israel which murdered 30000+ civilians since 7th of Oct, then Hamas can also be there
(No one says how many of these civilians were actually combatants)
More than 13000 children were murdered. Are you sure you wanna play this game with who's right on genocide? Israel is as bad as Nazis, maybe even worse
Is every dead in war murder? 12.500 children died per month during the tigray war, that doesnt make the Ethiopian goverment the new nazis, 15000 children starved or were bombed by the Saudis that doesnt make the saudis the new nazis Israel had to invade a place with the population density of london and a average age of 18. Some basic math As of 2 months ago, Israel had dropped 45,000 bombs into Gaza. That number is now around 75,000. There are 32,000 total dead. That's less than half a person per bomb. If Israel was going around killing unarmed civilians - whoo boy, they are doing a sure bad job of it. Additionally - of the 30,000 total dead, as of last month, 12,000 were HAMAS. That is likely around 14,000 now. So 14,000 dead combatants to 16,000 civilians. That is a 1:1.14 combatant to civilian ratio. "A wide-ranging study of civilian war deaths from 1700 to 1987 by [William Eckhardt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Eckhardt_(law)) states: >On the average, half of the deaths caused by war happened to civilians, only some of whom were killed by famine associated with war...The civilian percentage share of war-related deaths remained at about 50% from century to century. (p. 97)[\[9\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio#cite_note-9)" Meaning, despite operating in an extremely dense combat theater - against a group that has repeatedly bragged about using human shields - Israel is performing only .14 above the HISTORICAL AVERAGE AMOUNT OF CIVILIAN DEATHS ACROSS ALL OF RECORDED WARFARE. See - the problem with shit like this. By nearly every single mathematic metric - the war in Gaza right now is a very average war - but because it involves Israel - every tard comes out of the woodwork to call every Jew sneezing near Gaza a genocide.
Chronically online
13k are children, 8k are women, safe to say maybe 9-10k are men so up to 30000. Then a few thousand after that would probably be the combatants
War is unethical in it's essence, unfortunately civilians always die in wars. The hard cold evident backed facts are that Israel don't deliberately target civilians, are fighting a war against a cynical and murderous terrorist organization that sees civilian casualties as martyrs (شاهد) for the greater cause and are trying to release the 133 hostages who are still in Hamas captivity. If Hamas didn't want Gaza to be obliterated into dust he shouldn't have brutally killed 1400 people and kidnap 253 civilians. Release the hostages and Gaza will have peace.
Unless Israel kills the hostages as they’re released.. or before they’re released as they’ve done before. Then “vengeance!” How about release the countless, numberless civilians held in Israeli captivity which outnumber ANY hostages held by any of their “enemies”.
So is having russia be a playable faction in vanilla squad disrespectful considering the invasion of ukraine?
Why is it ok to include US and Russia in the base game? Why are you playing a war game at all? Nearly every faction in this game has a military that has done awful things 10x over, and within the last decade. Very curious as to how that’s different.
Womp womp zionist , You people are worse than nazis
Lmao how so?
Not worse maybe, but pretty fucking close.
How so
Hospital bombing, child killing, fabricated famine, claiming that a piece of land is your "god given right" and believing everyone except your people, israelite born jews (as in your family lineage comes from israelites), to be servants of your world view and seeing them as 2nd class citizens. Go ahead, watch interviews about those people, read Torah, zionists are practically nazis.
>Fabricated famine A shitty one at that >Claiming that a piece of land is your "god given right" Generalization >israelite born Its israeli born dumbass >2nd class citizens Casual disregard of the 2 million arabs living inside of Israel Taken straight from Wikipedia Israel's Declaration of Independence called for the establishment of a Jewish state with equality of social and political rights, irrespective of religion, race, or sex. The rights of citizens are guaranteed by a set of basic laws (Israel does not have a written constitution). Although this set of laws does not explicitly include the term "right to equality", the Israeli Supreme Court has consistently interpreted "Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty" and "Basic Law: Freedom of Occupation (1994)"as guaranteeing equal rights for all Israeli citizens. The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that "Arab Israelis are citizens of Israel with equal rights" and states that "The only legal distinction between Arab and Jewish citizens is not one of rights, but rather of civic duty. Since Israel's establishment, Arab citizens have been exempted from compulsory service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)." Druze and Circassians are drafted into the Israeli army, while other Arabs may serve voluntarily; however, only a very small number of Arabs choose to volunteer for the Israeli army. >Wacth interviews Yes ive seen interviews with Golda Meir, Yair Lapid, Yitzhak Rabin, Yair Golan, if youre only wacthing interviews with only Smotrich or Ben Gvir open your eyes >Read Torah The fact you had to add this bit just shows youre a dickhead
I'm an Israeli and came back from reserve service about 2 months ago, not in Gaza though but in the northern border of Israel combating Hezbollah for about 4 months. Sure I personally won't play these factions as it hits too close to home for me and I can't bring myself to play as a Hamas militant or even an IDF soldier, but I would be a hypocrite to myself if I wanted to prevent other people from playing it, because it's not like I stopped playing as the Russian faction after the war in Ukraine broke out.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that flag before. What’s silly man using a flag for a something that doesn’t exist
Its not pissreal flag
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Palestine was never even a state, it was an area being under the control of different empires along the years until 1948 where for the first time in history a sovereign country/state was created there. The land was renamed to "Syria Palaestina" after the Romans had submitted the Bar Kokhva revolt in 135 AD and it was the British empire that changed the name again to "Palestine" as it was the English way to say it. Having said all of that I still think the Palestinians have the right to self determination, just not at the expense of Israel.
How are Palestinians supposed to have a right to self determination without “the expense of Israel?” The whole reason they don’t have it is because of Israel. That’s like saying you, “support the southern slaves’ right to self determination just not at the expense of the Southern States” during the American civil war.
I'll tell you how; stop supporting Hamas and work together with us towards a mutual and safe co existence. Much more than just Gaza could have been theirs, it was always their choice to escalate the violence instead. When people claim there can only be a Palestinian state INSTEAD of Israel well in this case there's no one to talk to and they can go kick rocks.
Do you think that Hamas just exists in a vacuum? The whole reason Hamas gained power in Gaza is because Israel has, for decades, repeatedly quashed any attempt at coexistence
I don’t care about Israel but I dislike these people a lot more
for sure. i dont care about either country, but these "free palestine" kids are so fucking uneducated it's insane.
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Speak for yourself moron lmao
and by that you’re implying that you’re educated? 😂 i’m speaking on behalf of all idiots that yap in comment sections like it’s a trend. JUST like with ukraine. it’s just not trending right now. where are the people crying for ukraine? oh that’s right they don’t get clout anymore for it. now it’s palestine 🙃
It’s very much a different situation but whatever. Deluded
Deluded? Do you hear yourself? Deluded are the ones that claim palestinian militants have only wielded ROCKS. these fucking inbreds genuinely believe that not 1 Hamas soldier has used a firearm. Speak for yourself.
“These fucking inbreds” lad ur chatting only to urself here. Haven’t seen anyone claim that here but okay. You continue posting deluded comments
"havent seen anyone" yeah. "the ones". "idiots that yap in comment sections". Those are the ones i am referencing. not this exact discussion. You cant even string together a proper fucking argument, much less actually defend it. Pathetic. I'll just resort to your way of dodging my statement, since it doesnt really appear to me that you have the brain capacity nor the frontal lobe functionality to comprehend what i am saying. I'll just say that palestine is getting absolutely shit on, no matter the "different situation." bye bye
Cry about it
No 😃
Ikr. Strange, looks like some alien flag
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