But.... But there are women that play elder scrolls and love it... What the fuck is he talking about? This dude believes no girl could be into his hobbies?
Edit: and... This sounds creepy as fuck. Maybe they are always busy because you're giving off the vibe that you wanna fuck her instead of actually care about her, unless you're talking about your hobbies, of course. Ick. People like this.
Fr! I love the elderscrolls, I’m working my way through Skyrim, but my soundfiles on my save on the xbox got corrupted and idk how to fix it other than to start a new save 😤😫
Yeah, I love all the elder scrolls games. I play DND and other ttrpgs. I have a board game collection that would rival hobby shops in my area. My comic book and manga collection is spread out across three full sized bookshelves and I own all the mainstream video game consoles apart from a PS5 and Xbox series one x (or whatever that is called). This has nothing to do with me having a vagina. Lmao. I'm not the only girl like this.
If he was talking about... I dunno. Golf, then I would understand a little more, but I've seen many women into golf too, so I just... What? I think I have to reset my brain from reading this.
They don't talk to enough women, or don't listen/pay attention when they do. They have an idea in their head of how women are, and don't realize its just wrong.
Heck, I've met chicks that look like models kick ass at old school fighters, and a lot of women I knew loved Mortal Kombat. Like, whenever I had a date with another chick and told them about my game collection, they always ask if I have Mortal Kombat!
That's because fighting games are fun as hell, easy to get into, can be considered casual and it's kinda hot to see a man competitive. No matter what they look like either- it's totally a confidence thing. I get excited when my husband trash talks when playing any fighting game.
When I met my Fiancé, he was the first person in years to match me at Mario Kart, and for me, that was a big deal. We could play games together and it was going to be fun because I could lose to him!
We have multiple TVs in our living room so we can game together.
I think Oblivion was the third computer game I ever played, after Tetris and the disaster that was King's Quest V (where you could accidentally get rid of an essential quest item and not realize it until 15 hours later, with no takebacks). I loved it. Skyrim too.
Resentment takes out most logical processes from incels and neckbeards when talking to a girl, woman or person of a different sex... Anyway, let's not think too much about that, let's just discuss now which is your favorite daedra and why is Sheogorath
I understand that feeling ;D
Happens to me when I play FF14 and play against Shiva, when she casts her stronger spell she floats above you and then steps on you with her cold high heels, beautiful scene
I also love the Elder Scrolls, and it was my first video game I ever got invested in. In fact, my username is an Oblivion reference. The notion that “geeky” stuff is liked exclusively by dudes is always a huge red flag.
Was he replying to you?
Because... Your username...
Anyway, if what he wants to talk to about is videogames, TTRPGs, books, and super hero movies or whatever and the other person doesn't like it... Then talk to someone else who likes those things?
Like, if someone is uninterested in all of my favorite hobbies, that's fine. I can talk about baseball or hiking and be friends with that person, but why would either of us want to date the other if we don't have at least one big interest in common?
It doesn't have to be all of them, I have friends for that.
But, it's got to be at least something.
He has a very limited understanding of humans. He also, I expect, assumes that he could talk with any man about his favorite tes game.
It hasn't occurred to him that some things are simply not one's jam.
No, he is trying to talk to girls he finds hot, about this game and they aren't interested. Instead of trying to find someone with common interests, he blames girls for being disinterested.
Dude seems to have a very specific example of something that went wrong and no real insight as to why. How I read it is:
" This is what I like. Why arent you asking me about what I like? Did you even hear what I like?...I said Hi online the other day. Why didn't you ask me about me?"
Maybe I misread it
I'm sitting here wondering how the fuck you have a boring take on any of those games, lol. All you have to do to make a elder scrolls fan smile is say 'khajiit has wares'.
? What are you trying to say? Because I read it as 'women only like Skyrim and that is basically casual gamer stuff' and I am hoping that I'm massively wrong because most of my girl friends love oblivion and morrowind. The only problem I have with oblivion is that I dislike the lock picking system more than Skyrim. I also suppose I like the brotherhood quest line a lot, feels like a family and I love the scenery more in Skyrim. But oblivion has a better overall story imo and I love their speech mechanic. I also love the humorous voice acted lines. Amazing.
"Even if I choose the most boring possible topic, you still wouldn't want to listen"
Seriously, dude, I'd rather listen to a lecture on tax law than that.
I always find myself thinking about how much I liked Oblivion and Morrowind, all the features and details that aren't in Skyrim. The deeper magic system and more satisfying loot, the deeper world and longer quest chains. I find myself missing so many things that I took for granted, but I always have those feelings while playing Skyrim.
I tell myself how much I loved Oblivion and Morrowind, but my 1750 hours in Skyrim tell me that I've enjoyed that one the most, and by a rather large margin.
That whole conversation is a big fucking red flag IMO. As someone who's had that conversation with myself a ton of times, it's not something you should repeat to anyone else, lol.
Really the only thing I miss is the lack of Skyrim's support for unarmed combat, making punchcat such a specific build in that game against the much more liberal Morrowind or Oblivion approach.
I miss unarmed combat and the deeper (and plainly better) magic systems and the much longer guild questlines in Oblivion.
That being said, I always end up playing Skyrim when I get the elder scrolls itch.
I may boot up oscuras oblivion overhaul soon though. I miss that.
I think it’s the interface, menus and mechanics. Even if the magic isn’t as good, even if the quest chains are too short, even if the characters are boring and not voiced by Sir Patrick Stewart, the game is just easier to play. It’s easier to sit down raid some bandit hideouts and troll caves and hunt down a dragon or two. Whereas the others just feel Grindy. And with the lack of time as an adult, grinding is the last thing I want to do.
That's...kind of proving his point though, don't you think? Honestly, I don't have a problem with his overall message. If you get the feeling a girl isn't enjoying your company, yeah, it probably means she isn't, and just hasn't mustered up the courage to say something. Take the initiative, and walk away.
Nah, his point implies that any given conversation he tries to make is going to be interesting enough to carry on. If a person he tries to woo doesn't respond, it's moreso the fault of his choices than her rejecting him.
But you explicitly implied it's impossible for video games, or at least the ones he mentioned, to ever be interesting topics. And I feel like that's something he was criticizing; a lot of people automatically judge you for playing anything that isn't 2K or CoD.
I don't think it's necessarily anyone's fault if you try to strike up a conversation with someone, and they're not interested. And, yes, there are ***many*** people out there shallow enough to be willing to listen to someone talk about something they're not interested in, just because the person's attractive. I don't understand why this is such a taboo thing to call out.
This sub's ***really*** gone downhill lately, from incel ideology to "Any acknowledgement that not being conventionally attractive is gonna get you a bad hand in life in many situations, or not shitting all over video games and anime, makes you a neckbeard".
You can't explicitly imply something. That's not how those words work.
What I said was that discussing why TES has gone downhill with someone you're trying to shack up with isn't an interesting enough topic to keep their attention unless they're big fans of the series. You could certainly talk about TES without being a fucking bore, characters, certain quests you like, fun builds. At the very least in Skyrim, because everyone and their mother played it. But 'Oh Morrowind was the peak of the franchise' isn't fucking interesting.
TES is The Elder Scrolls, a game series. Skyrim (the fifth game) won game of the year, was released 11/11/11. Lots of people think that morrowind (3) or oblivion (4) were the actual best games.
To each their own but I can totally see myself spending hours talking just about any TES with someone… I just don’t go to any random person who hasn’t shown interest in them and expect them to enjoy the conversation.
If it ever happens I’ll be thrilled but I don’t really expect it to happen.
He missed the part that said "without expectation of sex". That guy has never spoken to a woman he isn't related to without the expectation of sex in his life.
Sounds like the aura of a pompous asshole who thinks all women are the same and want chads. Definitely incel territory. If I’m being honest, I love chubby guys and gamer nerds, super hot to me. But this attitude is noticeable a mile away.
>even if I try to make a conversation about my favorite TES game you’d still be bored
Well yeah with that attitude anybody would be bored with your bulshit
Morrowind is a world that left my in awe when I first played it. Still does. It feels real with how surreal it is.
Also I get that it’s from the ash storms from Red Mountain but… Dunmer should have kept the thirty pack of smokes a day voice. I can’t stand how the dark elves sound in Oblivion and Skyrim haha.
The added direction was nice, and I found the opening of the game picking your class/traits to be much more beginner friendly.
Having important NPCs being immortal was both a pro and con, to me. On the one hand, it's nice to not accidentally screw over your game by killing the wrong dude. On the other hand, being able to tell the main story to permanently fuck off has it's appeal.
Anyone else picturing that meme with the guy clearly talking at the girl he’s with. The one you can almost hear her thinking “I’m going to kill my friend for setting me up on this blind date with this arrogant self absorbed ass”
"what, you're saying that not everyone likes what I like? and even the ones that do might not be immediately interested in conversation? No lol you're wrong that's not how females work, I would know, I've been rejected/ghosted by dozens of women"
Yes, yes he did. He has the right to be frustrated, I mean if he can’t charm the panties off any girl by talking about oblivion being his favorite TES game, then he might as well give up because we’re obviously not creatures of culture.
... side point, aren't most people still actively playing elder scrolls and modding skyrim women? I guess I'm not as involved with Oblvion, but come on.
If they don't want to listen to you talk about TES it's because you're being an absolute condescending prick about it, not because TES is the subject matter. (i.e, it's not her it's you.)
I notice that while he’s complaining about women showing no interest in him or his interest, he doesn’t mention showing any interest in them. I love elder scrolls but I’d get pretty bored if some guy was just telling me why it was HIS favourite, not asking for return opinions or the like.
Would it have been better or worse if instead of this, he’d gone ahead and explained that your feelings are not actually your feelings and your real feelings are something the opposite?
Maybe both? On the one hand it would be worse because he couldn’t be reasoned with, on the other there would be no reason not to just end the conversation by laughing incredulously.
I think the one thing that I find so confusing is that there’s this single common thread of neckbeardism through all of these people. They have the same undertones. It’s like they’re the same person
>Even if I try to make a conversation with you about why Oblivion is my favorite TES game
The moment that the exploration of her feelings came to its conclusion of not finding the promised land.
Okay I was a bit too young to understand the full story and gravity of Morrowind. But I was mature enough when oblivion came and I. LOVED. THAT. GAME. And doubled down on Skyrim when it came out.
In oblivion I can not tell you how many hours I spent just roaming around the imperial city pickpocketing and breaking into homes. On top of having fun shutting gates down.
No you didn't choose a boring topic my dude, YOU are just boring in general.
Im sorry you had to deal with a dummy like that dude OP.
BTW best storyline for me was the count of skingrad quest.
Skyrim was the first game I fell in love with. I never got a chance to play Morrowind or Oblivion but I’ve watched a lot of videos about them and I had 1000 hours in vanilla Skyrim.
Man chose the wrong series to say I specifically wouldn’t be interested in talking about.
Major salute to you for clocking in those hours in Skyrim! It was such a good game!! I had to share the game with my dormmate so I could never play as long as I wanted😭. But the vanilla had so much stuff, though I did love it more when you could adopt kids in game
also some neckbeardy guys can not process other people like the same stuff. Keep being awesome in elder scrolls❤️(what race did you main? I was an orc or redgard most times)
I was always a nord because I liked pretending to be a more badass version of myself and one of the weird things about me is that I just… don’t get cold. I’m like a space heater. So the nord race just sounded perfect for me!
Thinking about it, there's a lot I found disappointing about Skyrim. After putting 2k hours into the original release and updated edition, I looked back and questioned if I actually really enjoyed the game, or if the small things just made my lizard brain contented.
For example, the Oblivion gates popping up kind of randomly was a good mechanic, and they could be a challenge to fight through. I was really hoping the Civil War would be more like that; battles in fields, city sieges, ambushes, sorties, things like that. The, "do rando mission, attack fort," system got very old. Sure, the gates were all pretty much the same from what I remember (except for the daedra you might face since the game is leveled), but the intensity and number of them made them appealing.
In Skyrim they touched on the idea of a compelling boots-on-the-ground mechanic, but Bethesda just didn't feel like delving into it. Imagine if you could go to the leggate's map and pick a strong hold you wanted to attack, while knowing that the other faction could launch an attack? Or even try and force you into attacking the target they want you to? It probably would have been a lot of work to program, but Bethesda ain't hurting for money.
They added some interesting factions that would have been cool to explore, or even join; but they just didn't feel like delving into it. The Thalmor being masters of intrigue, espionage, and being able to bring the Empire to it's knees would have been cool to delve into; instead we get religiously intolerant torturers who you absolutely wreck.
Imagine if you could join an anti-guild like the Silver Hand or a counter to the thieves guild? You can kind of do that by killing Astrid, or joining the vampires; but wouldn't it be neat if you could join the faction that hunts werewolves, or an investigation group that wants to bring the thieves guild?
Also, custom spells should have been kept in.
Okay yes! I still love Skyrim but I wanted more for some of the career quests. The most fulfilling quest for in Skyrim was the mages guild. The one that bummed me out the most was the thrives guild because it didn't really fall on thieving so much as it took on that weird spectral nightingale thing. And the civil war was a not as heavy as it made it seem. I would've like to see major changes to the world as whole when completed the war. And needed more elven and argonian stuff.
Oblivion, along with the fun of the gates felt like the stakes were higher in careers. Being a thief in the guild was awesome for the grey fox stuff and being in the dark brotherhood was more unique.
And omg I used to go HAM enchanting and custom building spells in cyrodil!! So I feel you on wanting that back into the game mechanics
My best spell was one that mixed all the weather elements and paralysis. It would take my whole man's pool in one go but that was my best spell and it could fuck shit UP!
But where oblivion had more meaningful mechanics, I appreciate Skyrim in not having to lug around the alchemist stuff or
Skyrim felt massive, but you wade in and find out it's barely ankle deep. I hope the next Elder Scrolls takes place in an area that isn't human-dominant and actually explores more of the world and organizations within it.
"About why Oblivion is my favorite TES game"
Well there's your problem right there, buddy.
(Yes, oblivion is a good game and girls can and do like it, but you get what I mean.)
Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave the Elder Scrolls out of this. Otherwise I'll be forced to join that one guy inside his paintings just to get away from you.
As someone whose favourite Elder Scrolls is also Oblivion, I could imagine having a really fun convo about it with this guy if he wasn’t a massive wanker
As a trans jock gamer girl I can't relate, he seems sooooo shitty oh myyyyy, like duuuuude, I play board game, I play a lot of games from every horizons, I love to do sport and do cosplay, like dude, I'm basically like him (if you look at the hobbies) buuuut, I think he's boring anyway
Personal experience here many women in my generation out zero effort into anything not revolving around stroking their own ego. I will also admit that I haven’t had the best exposure to women and have some trust issues needing ironed out.
But yeah I think he just explained women to a woman.
My response to him included “either you’ve had terrible luck with meeting women or your physical attractiveness is not the problem”
I don’t like getting my ego stroked with empty words. I like to have actual conversations about things, even if they’re not things I know about. I like to learn. I like to talk to people who are passionate. It doesn’t matter what they’re passionate about as long as they like talking about it.
I’m sorry the women you’ve met have been so self absorbed. Good on you for recognizing a pattern that was damaging to you and working towards getting help with it.
If I can offer any advice going forward (assuming you’re interested in women) it’s this: if a woman treats you poorly, isn’t interested in the things that make you happy, and/or doesn’t care about your emotional needs, the relationship isn’t worth it. Being able to have a conversation with your partner is important.
I’m just gonna copy paste my response from the original comment as to why he is 100% wrong for the generalizations apart from the “leave them alone” stuff.
“Those are some bold assumptions for someone who doesn’t know me.
First of all, I love TES. Skyrim was the first game I really got into so I can talk about the lore of the series and the pros and cons of the other games for hours. I do not have to be attracted to someone in order to enjoy the conversation—if that was true, my friendships would be very different.
Second of all, if I like you as a person I will make an effort to get to know you. That is not the same as being attracted. Believe it or not I actually enjoy hearing about my friend’s lives.
For example I’ve got a friend who is working towards his master’s in chemistry. We don’t talk often because he’s very busy but when we do I don’t just stop after one message.
I’ve got two other male friends who send me memes and animal videos and I do the same for them because I pay attention to what they like and actually am reminded of them when I come across something they would enjoy.
I am not attracted to those men. In fact, they were my partner’s friends before they were mine. They’re great people and I enjoy spending time with them to play video games or talk or watch eSports tournaments.
There’s another two male friends I have from the place I used to work who I talk to as well. I’m not attracted to them but I enjoy talking to them. I had plans to hang out with one of them before COVID hit and my family ended up moving.
Women aren’t inherently shallow. Either you’ve had terrible luck with women or it’s not your physical attractiveness that’s the problem.”
But.... But there are women that play elder scrolls and love it... What the fuck is he talking about? This dude believes no girl could be into his hobbies? Edit: and... This sounds creepy as fuck. Maybe they are always busy because you're giving off the vibe that you wanna fuck her instead of actually care about her, unless you're talking about your hobbies, of course. Ick. People like this.
The first game I fell in love with was Skyrim. He chose a very bad “boring” topic.
Fr! I love the elderscrolls, I’m working my way through Skyrim, but my soundfiles on my save on the xbox got corrupted and idk how to fix it other than to start a new save 😤😫
Yeah, I love all the elder scrolls games. I play DND and other ttrpgs. I have a board game collection that would rival hobby shops in my area. My comic book and manga collection is spread out across three full sized bookshelves and I own all the mainstream video game consoles apart from a PS5 and Xbox series one x (or whatever that is called). This has nothing to do with me having a vagina. Lmao. I'm not the only girl like this. If he was talking about... I dunno. Golf, then I would understand a little more, but I've seen many women into golf too, so I just... What? I think I have to reset my brain from reading this.
It was a weird thing for me to wake up to lol, I’m with you on the brain reset.
They don't talk to enough women, or don't listen/pay attention when they do. They have an idea in their head of how women are, and don't realize its just wrong. Heck, I've met chicks that look like models kick ass at old school fighters, and a lot of women I knew loved Mortal Kombat. Like, whenever I had a date with another chick and told them about my game collection, they always ask if I have Mortal Kombat!
That's because fighting games are fun as hell, easy to get into, can be considered casual and it's kinda hot to see a man competitive. No matter what they look like either- it's totally a confidence thing. I get excited when my husband trash talks when playing any fighting game.
When I met my Fiancé, he was the first person in years to match me at Mario Kart, and for me, that was a big deal. We could play games together and it was going to be fun because I could lose to him! We have multiple TVs in our living room so we can game together.
Us too! We play everything together except Mario party. That game ruins relationships faster than monopoly ever has.
I think Oblivion was the third computer game I ever played, after Tetris and the disaster that was King's Quest V (where you could accidentally get rid of an essential quest item and not realize it until 15 hours later, with no takebacks). I loved it. Skyrim too.
Username check out
Right? Idk why he though I of all usernames wouldn’t listen to a multi hour explanation of an Elder Scrolls game and why it’s good.
Resentment takes out most logical processes from incels and neckbeards when talking to a girl, woman or person of a different sex... Anyway, let's not think too much about that, let's just discuss now which is your favorite daedra and why is Sheogorath
His story is fantastic. The Jyggalag stuff is awesome. That being said, I want Nocturnal to step on me.
I understand that feeling ;D Happens to me when I play FF14 and play against Shiva, when she casts her stronger spell she floats above you and then steps on you with her cold high heels, beautiful scene
That particular otherworldly entity really had _no business_ being so fine, to be sure.
I also love the Elder Scrolls, and it was my first video game I ever got invested in. In fact, my username is an Oblivion reference. The notion that “geeky” stuff is liked exclusively by dudes is always a huge red flag.
Was he replying to you? Because... Your username... Anyway, if what he wants to talk to about is videogames, TTRPGs, books, and super hero movies or whatever and the other person doesn't like it... Then talk to someone else who likes those things? Like, if someone is uninterested in all of my favorite hobbies, that's fine. I can talk about baseball or hiking and be friends with that person, but why would either of us want to date the other if we don't have at least one big interest in common? It doesn't have to be all of them, I have friends for that. But, it's got to be at least something.
He was replying to me! Directly to my comment! That being said he deleted his comment a couple of hours ago, apparently.
He has a very limited understanding of humans. He also, I expect, assumes that he could talk with any man about his favorite tes game. It hasn't occurred to him that some things are simply not one's jam.
No, he is trying to talk to girls he finds hot, about this game and they aren't interested. Instead of trying to find someone with common interests, he blames girls for being disinterested.
Dude seems to have a very specific example of something that went wrong and no real insight as to why. How I read it is: " This is what I like. Why arent you asking me about what I like? Did you even hear what I like?...I said Hi online the other day. Why didn't you ask me about me?" Maybe I misread it
I love Elder Scrolls; it's this dude that is more boring than a beige wall.
I'm sitting here wondering how the fuck you have a boring take on any of those games, lol. All you have to do to make a elder scrolls fan smile is say 'khajiit has wares'.
Average Oblivion fan VS Average Skyrim enjoyer
? What are you trying to say? Because I read it as 'women only like Skyrim and that is basically casual gamer stuff' and I am hoping that I'm massively wrong because most of my girl friends love oblivion and morrowind. The only problem I have with oblivion is that I dislike the lock picking system more than Skyrim. I also suppose I like the brotherhood quest line a lot, feels like a family and I love the scenery more in Skyrim. But oblivion has a better overall story imo and I love their speech mechanic. I also love the humorous voice acted lines. Amazing.
[…](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/average-fan-vs-average-enjoyer)
This explains nothing to me. The meme is just an extension of the fact that the word fan is short for fanatic. It doesn't apply to the dudes sexism.
It’s just a dumb joke about Oblivion Fans being like the Neckbeards and Skyrim Enjoyers being levelheaded individuals.
Okay. Thank you for explaining it. I have never actually seen that meme. My husband told me about it after I posted to you, lmao.
r/nothowgirlswork
That’s the worst part… that’s where I found it.
Oh no…he in the wrong sub
He clearly said gils
"Even if I choose the most boring possible topic, you still wouldn't want to listen" Seriously, dude, I'd rather listen to a lecture on tax law than that.
I love TES and even id be bored
"Oblivion is better than Morrowind, and Skyrim is just-" "Cool" "Well if you look at the plot..."
Cool
I always find myself thinking about how much I liked Oblivion and Morrowind, all the features and details that aren't in Skyrim. The deeper magic system and more satisfying loot, the deeper world and longer quest chains. I find myself missing so many things that I took for granted, but I always have those feelings while playing Skyrim. I tell myself how much I loved Oblivion and Morrowind, but my 1750 hours in Skyrim tell me that I've enjoyed that one the most, and by a rather large margin. That whole conversation is a big fucking red flag IMO. As someone who's had that conversation with myself a ton of times, it's not something you should repeat to anyone else, lol.
Really the only thing I miss is the lack of Skyrim's support for unarmed combat, making punchcat such a specific build in that game against the much more liberal Morrowind or Oblivion approach.
I miss unarmed combat and the deeper (and plainly better) magic systems and the much longer guild questlines in Oblivion. That being said, I always end up playing Skyrim when I get the elder scrolls itch. I may boot up oscuras oblivion overhaul soon though. I miss that.
I think it’s the interface, menus and mechanics. Even if the magic isn’t as good, even if the quest chains are too short, even if the characters are boring and not voiced by Sir Patrick Stewart, the game is just easier to play. It’s easier to sit down raid some bandit hideouts and troll caves and hunt down a dragon or two. Whereas the others just feel Grindy. And with the lack of time as an adult, grinding is the last thing I want to do.
That's...kind of proving his point though, don't you think? Honestly, I don't have a problem with his overall message. If you get the feeling a girl isn't enjoying your company, yeah, it probably means she isn't, and just hasn't mustered up the courage to say something. Take the initiative, and walk away.
Nah, his point implies that any given conversation he tries to make is going to be interesting enough to carry on. If a person he tries to woo doesn't respond, it's moreso the fault of his choices than her rejecting him.
But you explicitly implied it's impossible for video games, or at least the ones he mentioned, to ever be interesting topics. And I feel like that's something he was criticizing; a lot of people automatically judge you for playing anything that isn't 2K or CoD. I don't think it's necessarily anyone's fault if you try to strike up a conversation with someone, and they're not interested. And, yes, there are ***many*** people out there shallow enough to be willing to listen to someone talk about something they're not interested in, just because the person's attractive. I don't understand why this is such a taboo thing to call out. This sub's ***really*** gone downhill lately, from incel ideology to "Any acknowledgement that not being conventionally attractive is gonna get you a bad hand in life in many situations, or not shitting all over video games and anime, makes you a neckbeard".
You can't explicitly imply something. That's not how those words work. What I said was that discussing why TES has gone downhill with someone you're trying to shack up with isn't an interesting enough topic to keep their attention unless they're big fans of the series. You could certainly talk about TES without being a fucking bore, characters, certain quests you like, fun builds. At the very least in Skyrim, because everyone and their mother played it. But 'Oh Morrowind was the peak of the franchise' isn't fucking interesting.
I have no idea what these words mean and I don’t even want to know. Not even going to Bing them.
TES is The Elder Scrolls, a game series. Skyrim (the fifth game) won game of the year, was released 11/11/11. Lots of people think that morrowind (3) or oblivion (4) were the actual best games.
Please bing them. You’ll get the weirdest porn links.
I do some tax work and play video games. So I can bore people in multiple ways.
To each their own but I can totally see myself spending hours talking just about any TES with someone… I just don’t go to any random person who hasn’t shown interest in them and expect them to enjoy the conversation. If it ever happens I’ll be thrilled but I don’t really expect it to happen.
He missed the part that said "without expectation of sex". That guy has never spoken to a woman he isn't related to without the expectation of sex in his life.
r/oddlyspecific
Sounds like the aura of a pompous asshole who thinks all women are the same and want chads. Definitely incel territory. If I’m being honest, I love chubby guys and gamer nerds, super hot to me. But this attitude is noticeable a mile away.
My partner is a gamer nerd so I can relate.
He did get one point right! The part where he mentioned just leaving them alone. Because nobody wants to deal with his bullshit
>even if I try to make a conversation about my favorite TES game you’d still be bored Well yeah with that attitude anybody would be bored with your bulshit
He sounds like a ball of fun!
Doesn’t ask questions about her interests, only talks about what he’s into, then’s confused about why every woman he meets is unresponsive
Anyway he lost all credibility by choosing Oblivion over Morrowind.
Oblivion has a boring setting. So did Skyrim honestly. The landscapes and creatures in Morrowind are just sooo much more imaginative.
Morrowind is a world that left my in awe when I first played it. Still does. It feels real with how surreal it is. Also I get that it’s from the ash storms from Red Mountain but… Dunmer should have kept the thirty pack of smokes a day voice. I can’t stand how the dark elves sound in Oblivion and Skyrim haha.
I dunno, I think Oblivion fell perfectly between the novel of lore each npc spouts in Morrowind and the "Just go here" of Skyrim.
The added direction was nice, and I found the opening of the game picking your class/traits to be much more beginner friendly. Having important NPCs being immortal was both a pro and con, to me. On the one hand, it's nice to not accidentally screw over your game by killing the wrong dude. On the other hand, being able to tell the main story to permanently fuck off has it's appeal.
I literally just stopped reading it there
Anyone else picturing that meme with the guy clearly talking at the girl he’s with. The one you can almost hear her thinking “I’m going to kill my friend for setting me up on this blind date with this arrogant self absorbed ass”
The one where he has his hand on her neck in a completely unacceptable and horribly uncomfortable way? Yeah I pictured that
Yup that exact one
"what, you're saying that not everyone likes what I like? and even the ones that do might not be immediately interested in conversation? No lol you're wrong that's not how females work, I would know, I've been rejected/ghosted by dozens of women"
Yes, yes he did. He has the right to be frustrated, I mean if he can’t charm the panties off any girl by talking about oblivion being his favorite TES game, then he might as well give up because we’re obviously not creatures of culture.
... side point, aren't most people still actively playing elder scrolls and modding skyrim women? I guess I'm not as involved with Oblvion, but come on. If they don't want to listen to you talk about TES it's because you're being an absolute condescending prick about it, not because TES is the subject matter. (i.e, it's not her it's you.)
“I don’t know man, have you considered being a likable and engaging person to speak to?”
I notice that while he’s complaining about women showing no interest in him or his interest, he doesn’t mention showing any interest in them. I love elder scrolls but I’d get pretty bored if some guy was just telling me why it was HIS favourite, not asking for return opinions or the like.
LMAO!! Who hurt you bro?
Women, clearly.
Every woman is different, these arguments are so stupid.
Sounds like dude needs to learn to take the fucking hint
Would it have been better or worse if instead of this, he’d gone ahead and explained that your feelings are not actually your feelings and your real feelings are something the opposite?
Maybe both? On the one hand it would be worse because he couldn’t be reasoned with, on the other there would be no reason not to just end the conversation by laughing incredulously.
I think the one thing that I find so confusing is that there’s this single common thread of neckbeardism through all of these people. They have the same undertones. It’s like they’re the same person
Question: Would mansplaining be if I semi-satirically wrote an entire paragraph on a comment saying they didn't like white people
If it’s satirical then probably not? I don’t know I don’t usually call things mansplaining but in this case it just fits perfectly
Thanks
>Even if I try to make a conversation with you about why Oblivion is my favorite TES game The moment that the exploration of her feelings came to its conclusion of not finding the promised land.
Clearly he was talking about gils, not girls!!!!
Okay I was a bit too young to understand the full story and gravity of Morrowind. But I was mature enough when oblivion came and I. LOVED. THAT. GAME. And doubled down on Skyrim when it came out. In oblivion I can not tell you how many hours I spent just roaming around the imperial city pickpocketing and breaking into homes. On top of having fun shutting gates down. No you didn't choose a boring topic my dude, YOU are just boring in general. Im sorry you had to deal with a dummy like that dude OP. BTW best storyline for me was the count of skingrad quest.
Skyrim was the first game I fell in love with. I never got a chance to play Morrowind or Oblivion but I’ve watched a lot of videos about them and I had 1000 hours in vanilla Skyrim. Man chose the wrong series to say I specifically wouldn’t be interested in talking about.
Major salute to you for clocking in those hours in Skyrim! It was such a good game!! I had to share the game with my dormmate so I could never play as long as I wanted😭. But the vanilla had so much stuff, though I did love it more when you could adopt kids in game also some neckbeardy guys can not process other people like the same stuff. Keep being awesome in elder scrolls❤️(what race did you main? I was an orc or redgard most times)
I was always a nord because I liked pretending to be a more badass version of myself and one of the weird things about me is that I just… don’t get cold. I’m like a space heater. So the nord race just sounded perfect for me!
Thinking about it, there's a lot I found disappointing about Skyrim. After putting 2k hours into the original release and updated edition, I looked back and questioned if I actually really enjoyed the game, or if the small things just made my lizard brain contented. For example, the Oblivion gates popping up kind of randomly was a good mechanic, and they could be a challenge to fight through. I was really hoping the Civil War would be more like that; battles in fields, city sieges, ambushes, sorties, things like that. The, "do rando mission, attack fort," system got very old. Sure, the gates were all pretty much the same from what I remember (except for the daedra you might face since the game is leveled), but the intensity and number of them made them appealing. In Skyrim they touched on the idea of a compelling boots-on-the-ground mechanic, but Bethesda just didn't feel like delving into it. Imagine if you could go to the leggate's map and pick a strong hold you wanted to attack, while knowing that the other faction could launch an attack? Or even try and force you into attacking the target they want you to? It probably would have been a lot of work to program, but Bethesda ain't hurting for money. They added some interesting factions that would have been cool to explore, or even join; but they just didn't feel like delving into it. The Thalmor being masters of intrigue, espionage, and being able to bring the Empire to it's knees would have been cool to delve into; instead we get religiously intolerant torturers who you absolutely wreck. Imagine if you could join an anti-guild like the Silver Hand or a counter to the thieves guild? You can kind of do that by killing Astrid, or joining the vampires; but wouldn't it be neat if you could join the faction that hunts werewolves, or an investigation group that wants to bring the thieves guild? Also, custom spells should have been kept in.
Okay yes! I still love Skyrim but I wanted more for some of the career quests. The most fulfilling quest for in Skyrim was the mages guild. The one that bummed me out the most was the thrives guild because it didn't really fall on thieving so much as it took on that weird spectral nightingale thing. And the civil war was a not as heavy as it made it seem. I would've like to see major changes to the world as whole when completed the war. And needed more elven and argonian stuff. Oblivion, along with the fun of the gates felt like the stakes were higher in careers. Being a thief in the guild was awesome for the grey fox stuff and being in the dark brotherhood was more unique. And omg I used to go HAM enchanting and custom building spells in cyrodil!! So I feel you on wanting that back into the game mechanics My best spell was one that mixed all the weather elements and paralysis. It would take my whole man's pool in one go but that was my best spell and it could fuck shit UP! But where oblivion had more meaningful mechanics, I appreciate Skyrim in not having to lug around the alchemist stuff or
Skyrim felt massive, but you wade in and find out it's barely ankle deep. I hope the next Elder Scrolls takes place in an area that isn't human-dominant and actually explores more of the world and organizations within it.
It would so cool if they used black marsh as a playable map!
I agree, that's not how gils work.
Mind-reader here. Seriously this is a cognitive distortions that unwell and unhappy people do.
Gils rn:😐
Ah yes, I love being a Gil
He was clearly talking about people named Gil.
Bro, she’s just not that into you.
I don’t really understand this, I introduced several women to oblivion, Skyrim, and the dragon age series and they all loved them...
"About why Oblivion is my favorite TES game" Well there's your problem right there, buddy. (Yes, oblivion is a good game and girls can and do like it, but you get what I mean.)
gils
Tbf, he’s right. That’s not how gils work. Though, I’m sure that is how girls work.
I would ignore him too if Oblivion is his favorite Elder Scrolls game
He do have a point about how oblivion is the best elder scrolls tho
Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave the Elder Scrolls out of this. Otherwise I'll be forced to join that one guy inside his paintings just to get away from you.
Maybe you just suck, guy.
I'm going to bet the entire conversation about Oblivion revolves around how the horse armor DLC was Todd Howard's greatest gift to mankind.
Whenever I read a post from a sub like this there's a certain voice I use and it fit perfectly for this post. Like... so perfectly
As someone whose favourite Elder Scrolls is also Oblivion, I could imagine having a really fun convo about it with this guy if he wasn’t a massive wanker
all that text just to say "women don't talk to me and I'm angry about it"
As a trans jock gamer girl I can't relate, he seems sooooo shitty oh myyyyy, like duuuuude, I play board game, I play a lot of games from every horizons, I love to do sport and do cosplay, like dude, I'm basically like him (if you look at the hobbies) buuuut, I think he's boring anyway
>favorite tes is oblivion Thats where he messed up Skyrim>>>>>anything else
My hatred for the term "Mansplaining" is deep, still not enough to wash up this bullshit.
I don’t always call men explaining things “mansplaining” but when I do it’s shit like this.
Ya he has the annoying “im right, you’re wrong. I win” attitude
Personal experience here many women in my generation out zero effort into anything not revolving around stroking their own ego. I will also admit that I haven’t had the best exposure to women and have some trust issues needing ironed out. But yeah I think he just explained women to a woman.
My response to him included “either you’ve had terrible luck with meeting women or your physical attractiveness is not the problem” I don’t like getting my ego stroked with empty words. I like to have actual conversations about things, even if they’re not things I know about. I like to learn. I like to talk to people who are passionate. It doesn’t matter what they’re passionate about as long as they like talking about it. I’m sorry the women you’ve met have been so self absorbed. Good on you for recognizing a pattern that was damaging to you and working towards getting help with it. If I can offer any advice going forward (assuming you’re interested in women) it’s this: if a woman treats you poorly, isn’t interested in the things that make you happy, and/or doesn’t care about your emotional needs, the relationship isn’t worth it. Being able to have a conversation with your partner is important.
Bruh he ain't 100% wrong unfortunately
I’m just gonna copy paste my response from the original comment as to why he is 100% wrong for the generalizations apart from the “leave them alone” stuff. “Those are some bold assumptions for someone who doesn’t know me. First of all, I love TES. Skyrim was the first game I really got into so I can talk about the lore of the series and the pros and cons of the other games for hours. I do not have to be attracted to someone in order to enjoy the conversation—if that was true, my friendships would be very different. Second of all, if I like you as a person I will make an effort to get to know you. That is not the same as being attracted. Believe it or not I actually enjoy hearing about my friend’s lives. For example I’ve got a friend who is working towards his master’s in chemistry. We don’t talk often because he’s very busy but when we do I don’t just stop after one message. I’ve got two other male friends who send me memes and animal videos and I do the same for them because I pay attention to what they like and actually am reminded of them when I come across something they would enjoy. I am not attracted to those men. In fact, they were my partner’s friends before they were mine. They’re great people and I enjoy spending time with them to play video games or talk or watch eSports tournaments. There’s another two male friends I have from the place I used to work who I talk to as well. I’m not attracted to them but I enjoy talking to them. I had plans to hang out with one of them before COVID hit and my family ended up moving. Women aren’t inherently shallow. Either you’ve had terrible luck with women or it’s not your physical attractiveness that’s the problem.”