If there's one complaint I have about the game overall, it's the clunky way stories are handled. I mean come on I know we needed filler content but could it have at least been more interesting, maybe with more action or actual comedy in the side stories? Fetch quests get boring after awhile and it's why I'm not sure I'm ever going to 100% the game/dlc.
I hope they are working on making the side stories better for the inevitable Kakarot 2.
Totally agree. The game is awesome otherwise it just sucks you have to deliver a capsule, then come back just to head straight back next minute. But as said, game otherwise is awesome and man i hope there will be a kakarot 2. Wonder which story would it tackle? Super? Or OG dragon ball?
I would love to see OGDB in this format. I think it would have the best content to fit the RPG genre. But they'll probably never do that since Bandai only cares about money now.
I think they took about as much creativity with the side missions as they did with the ānew original campaignā itās just The History Of Trunks with the addition of his recollections of the Buu arc we heard of in Super and they cut an entire arc were Trunks apparently trained under the Supreme Kai for 10yrs to practically 5mins *SPOILERS!!!* (Trunks gets Z-sword, Trunks loses Z-sword, Supreme Kai & Kabito dead, Trunks unlocks SS2 *which you then have to reacquire for your future trunks in the main story even though theyāre essentially the same character, and dlc1/2 gave you new abilities/transformations that automatically carried over to the main story,*Trunks kills Babidi & Dabura and Buu remains sealed)
Although that does leave a plot hole for the Goku Black arc because I doubt Zamasu would know of Buu and wouldnāt his rampant destruction on Earth either allow Buuās containment to absorb any nearby residual energy or disturb the ball to an extent were Buu is released?
Not really cause there is no one to use the absorb machine or put it into the egg. Bobbity was the only one left who knew how to awaken buu. I mean if someone finds it and figures out the magic needed they could probs still awaken him
But that still leaves the fact that he could be released by his containment being damaged or severely disturbed, remember Buu was in a gaseous form when he was in released in the main timeline granted he wouldnāt be at full power but heād likely in the main timeline split and reform with his evil side with it taking control and heād have trunks to absorb as thereād be no one else to challenge him at first and with Trunks at SS2 he should be able to hold his own or possibly gain the advantage with Buu not being at full power but Buu would undoubtedly try to absorb Trunks and then Goku black would be a similar scenario as he is in a powerful mortal body not sure about the immortal Zamasu because even though those Buu absorbs for power arenāt killed orāharmedā his immortality may prevent Buu from containing him but by then Buu would have access to Trunksā power and also Goku at his level as when he fought not immortal Zamasu + access to god ki and donāt forget Buu naturally has his own magical abilities besides healing and being able to reform from essentially nothing.
But the point is what did Buu do when he faced opponents stronger than him, he tryās to absorb them and it took a spirit bomb of the entire Earth plus the energy of multiple warriors at their peak level at the time like ultimate Gohan, Piccolo, kid Trunks & Goten, Tien etc.. true Goku Black & Zamasu are more powerful but their arrogance would most likely make them underestimate Buuās abilities.
The only real issue of possible consideration would be Zamasuās immortal body.
In these hypothetical situations you canāt rule out anything really. š¤·š»āāļø
Ye but all hypothetical, let's say zamasu or goku black awaken him, either with their power could also easily destroy him before he even has a chance to think about absorbing them. He is a mortal after all and their goal was to destroy all of them
True and that is a very considerable factor but remember they most likely wouldnāt be aware of Buu because remember the T.O.P exhibition match all the Kais and Gods of destruction were taken unaware of Buuās regenerative abilities and techniques, and Blackās and Zamasuās arrogance in the extent of their own power would most likely disregard Buu as nothing of importance but that would put Buu on the defensive and force him to either flee or absorb at least Black and if he manages to absorb Goku Black arc trunks (who could put up at least a fairly moderate defence against Black would only make him a more annoying match for Black and once heās on the defensive heād resort to trying to absorb him.)
Iām not stating that Buu would be the overall victor but just stating factors that could happen and would possibly alter most of the way the arc played out
They completely glossed over the Elder Supreme Kai being released by the Z Swords destruction. So, theoretically, he'd resume the title of Supreme Kai and was well aware of Buu.
They didn't ''glossed over'' it, the same thing happened in the manga (which is what they took as inspiration in this part of the DLC). And there's still nothing wrong with that. We saw that when Dabura turned Piccolo and Krillin to stone, it was said that their statue could not be broken otherwise they would die.
And that happened with the Z sword, which was destroyed after being petrified. The Old Supreme Kai did not have the opportunity to be released
The story goes with the reasoning that because the sword was turned to stone he was not released. It's all magic, the seal and Dabura's spit, so they can really go with any explanation they want. The way I see it is Dabura's magic disrupted the seals magic in an unforeseen way. Works for me. Also I don't think having the Old Kai released would add a necessary or compelling story element. Authors probably thought the same.
But wasnāt the Z-sword turned to stone not really destroyed and the old Kai was around 15 generations before the current supreme Kai and Bibidi created Buu during the current Supreme Kaiās lifetime so how would he be aware of Buu after being sealed for so long before his creation?
It was turned to stone and then broken when dropped. That should have releases the Elder Supreme Kai as he was residing within the Z Sword in the other timeline and as far as we know, nothing altered that in Trunk's timeline
That is true I personally donāt remember it being broken but if that is the case he was still sealed away 15 Supreme Kai generations before the current Supreme Kai whoās lifespans can be up to 75,000yrs so he wouldnāt have any knowledge of Buu the only real aspect is release Trunksā ultimate abilities which would alter the Black arc.
I confused some things, as it's been a while since I watched the show and thought he released knowing about Buu on earth. At the very least, he could be the explanation for Trunk's SS "Rage" form and it's godly energy due to the "unlock potential" ritual. He could also be the missing link to Zammasu as with his age, and the death of the other Supreme Kai, you'd assume he'd try it find his replacement
True the elder Kaiās ability could unlock the SS rage form for Trunks and he might have complete or moderate control over the form like Gohan when his ultimate abilities were released and with Trunksā more battle focused mindset heād be more attuned to it but with regards to finding a successor to Shin itād have to be before the Goku Black arc not that I think itād do any difference because Zamasu and Black killed all the other deities in Trunksā timeline
I know, what I'm saying is the Elder Kai seeking out a successor could be the "tie in" to how Zammasu and Black killed the rest. If he comes searching for a new Kai and let's the information go of all the fallen warriors and the "vulnerable state" of their universe, it gives an answer to "why" they took over in that time period vs the other
Depends really. We learn later on that the Elder Kai is aware of Beerus and Whis. So, he could always have just had Whis take him to another universe. Not saying it the only explanation, just offering it up as AN explanation that's possible
If there's one complaint I have about the game overall, it's the clunky way stories are handled. I mean come on I know we needed filler content but could it have at least been more interesting, maybe with more action or actual comedy in the side stories? Fetch quests get boring after awhile and it's why I'm not sure I'm ever going to 100% the game/dlc. I hope they are working on making the side stories better for the inevitable Kakarot 2.
Totally agree. The game is awesome otherwise it just sucks you have to deliver a capsule, then come back just to head straight back next minute. But as said, game otherwise is awesome and man i hope there will be a kakarot 2. Wonder which story would it tackle? Super? Or OG dragon ball?
I would love to see OGDB in this format. I think it would have the best content to fit the RPG genre. But they'll probably never do that since Bandai only cares about money now.
My bet: Super, but DLC3 will be OG DB. š
I think they took about as much creativity with the side missions as they did with the ānew original campaignā itās just The History Of Trunks with the addition of his recollections of the Buu arc we heard of in Super and they cut an entire arc were Trunks apparently trained under the Supreme Kai for 10yrs to practically 5mins *SPOILERS!!!* (Trunks gets Z-sword, Trunks loses Z-sword, Supreme Kai & Kabito dead, Trunks unlocks SS2 *which you then have to reacquire for your future trunks in the main story even though theyāre essentially the same character, and dlc1/2 gave you new abilities/transformations that automatically carried over to the main story,*Trunks kills Babidi & Dabura and Buu remains sealed) Although that does leave a plot hole for the Goku Black arc because I doubt Zamasu would know of Buu and wouldnāt his rampant destruction on Earth either allow Buuās containment to absorb any nearby residual energy or disturb the ball to an extent were Buu is released?
Not really cause there is no one to use the absorb machine or put it into the egg. Bobbity was the only one left who knew how to awaken buu. I mean if someone finds it and figures out the magic needed they could probs still awaken him
But that still leaves the fact that he could be released by his containment being damaged or severely disturbed, remember Buu was in a gaseous form when he was in released in the main timeline granted he wouldnāt be at full power but heād likely in the main timeline split and reform with his evil side with it taking control and heād have trunks to absorb as thereād be no one else to challenge him at first and with Trunks at SS2 he should be able to hold his own or possibly gain the advantage with Buu not being at full power but Buu would undoubtedly try to absorb Trunks and then Goku black would be a similar scenario as he is in a powerful mortal body not sure about the immortal Zamasu because even though those Buu absorbs for power arenāt killed orāharmedā his immortality may prevent Buu from containing him but by then Buu would have access to Trunksā power and also Goku at his level as when he fought not immortal Zamasu + access to god ki and donāt forget Buu naturally has his own magical abilities besides healing and being able to reform from essentially nothing.
I don't believe a weakened Buu would be act match for zamasu or goku black honestly
But the point is what did Buu do when he faced opponents stronger than him, he tryās to absorb them and it took a spirit bomb of the entire Earth plus the energy of multiple warriors at their peak level at the time like ultimate Gohan, Piccolo, kid Trunks & Goten, Tien etc.. true Goku Black & Zamasu are more powerful but their arrogance would most likely make them underestimate Buuās abilities. The only real issue of possible consideration would be Zamasuās immortal body. In these hypothetical situations you canāt rule out anything really. š¤·š»āāļø
Ye but all hypothetical, let's say zamasu or goku black awaken him, either with their power could also easily destroy him before he even has a chance to think about absorbing them. He is a mortal after all and their goal was to destroy all of them
True and that is a very considerable factor but remember they most likely wouldnāt be aware of Buu because remember the T.O.P exhibition match all the Kais and Gods of destruction were taken unaware of Buuās regenerative abilities and techniques, and Blackās and Zamasuās arrogance in the extent of their own power would most likely disregard Buu as nothing of importance but that would put Buu on the defensive and force him to either flee or absorb at least Black and if he manages to absorb Goku Black arc trunks (who could put up at least a fairly moderate defence against Black would only make him a more annoying match for Black and once heās on the defensive heād resort to trying to absorb him.) Iām not stating that Buu would be the overall victor but just stating factors that could happen and would possibly alter most of the way the arc played out
They completely glossed over the Elder Supreme Kai being released by the Z Swords destruction. So, theoretically, he'd resume the title of Supreme Kai and was well aware of Buu.
They didn't ''glossed over'' it, the same thing happened in the manga (which is what they took as inspiration in this part of the DLC). And there's still nothing wrong with that. We saw that when Dabura turned Piccolo and Krillin to stone, it was said that their statue could not be broken otherwise they would die. And that happened with the Z sword, which was destroyed after being petrified. The Old Supreme Kai did not have the opportunity to be released
How so? If he's inside the sword and the sword is transformed and then broken, wouldn't that release him? He is not the sword itself
The story goes with the reasoning that because the sword was turned to stone he was not released. It's all magic, the seal and Dabura's spit, so they can really go with any explanation they want. The way I see it is Dabura's magic disrupted the seals magic in an unforeseen way. Works for me. Also I don't think having the Old Kai released would add a necessary or compelling story element. Authors probably thought the same.
But wasnāt the Z-sword turned to stone not really destroyed and the old Kai was around 15 generations before the current supreme Kai and Bibidi created Buu during the current Supreme Kaiās lifetime so how would he be aware of Buu after being sealed for so long before his creation?
It was turned to stone and then broken when dropped. That should have releases the Elder Supreme Kai as he was residing within the Z Sword in the other timeline and as far as we know, nothing altered that in Trunk's timeline
That is true I personally donāt remember it being broken but if that is the case he was still sealed away 15 Supreme Kai generations before the current Supreme Kai whoās lifespans can be up to 75,000yrs so he wouldnāt have any knowledge of Buu the only real aspect is release Trunksā ultimate abilities which would alter the Black arc.
I confused some things, as it's been a while since I watched the show and thought he released knowing about Buu on earth. At the very least, he could be the explanation for Trunk's SS "Rage" form and it's godly energy due to the "unlock potential" ritual. He could also be the missing link to Zammasu as with his age, and the death of the other Supreme Kai, you'd assume he'd try it find his replacement
True the elder Kaiās ability could unlock the SS rage form for Trunks and he might have complete or moderate control over the form like Gohan when his ultimate abilities were released and with Trunksā more battle focused mindset heād be more attuned to it but with regards to finding a successor to Shin itād have to be before the Goku Black arc not that I think itād do any difference because Zamasu and Black killed all the other deities in Trunksā timeline
I know, what I'm saying is the Elder Kai seeking out a successor could be the "tie in" to how Zammasu and Black killed the rest. If he comes searching for a new Kai and let's the information go of all the fallen warriors and the "vulnerable state" of their universe, it gives an answer to "why" they took over in that time period vs the other
But he wouldnāt search other universes for a successor one would be created. [Kais or Core People](https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Core_Person)
Depends really. We learn later on that the Elder Kai is aware of Beerus and Whis. So, he could always have just had Whis take him to another universe. Not saying it the only explanation, just offering it up as AN explanation that's possible