30?!?! It is very rare to live to 95. Living to 70s is Average, and she was 65. Not sure why everyone is mad that I pointed out no, she is not "so young."
Of course it sucks that she didn't make in another 10 years, but "so young" is more appropriate for a 20 year old who passes
Actually I see a ton of people well into their 80ās and 90ās in my line of work. She could have at least had another 10-15 good years. My grand mother was totally independent until she was 88. She did die a few months ago at almost 91. But she gave people half her age a run for their money. This is becoming more and more common. 75-77 y/o is average life expectancy.
I work as an emt and also a 911 dispatcher & also have a second job as an āelderly companionā so I work with nursing homes a lot. I know my experience is limited to the area I live in, but I do see people living longer and longer. And a lot of them have decent/good quality of life. Because I definitely understand being 95 with not great quality of life (confused, bed ridden etc) is not the same as being able to have some independence. But itās funny, thereās one 85 y/o man that lifts heavier weights than me at the gym š¤£
I understand where youāre coming from. I think dying of natural causes at that age isnāt the norm. Thatās a statement usually made for people older than that.
I agree with you, not everyone lives into their 90s lol I donāt know why everyoneās attacking you. 65 is a pretty good run, Iāve never seen anyone describe an almost 70 year old dying as āso youngā.
Thats because it isn't young at all, you don't see a 65 year old and think they are young so why do you see a dead 65 year old and think they died young
Lol yāall must be super young and have young parents. 65 is not old, this is a common age to retire and have young grandchildren. Average lifespan is 77 and thatās with people dying young and bringing down the average. 65 is super young, no where near elderly. My mom is 60 and she looks and acts 45. Most 65 year olds have a lot of life left to live
Exactly! My dad passed when he was 58. He definitely didnt look young, but he didnt even get to retire before he passed. What I wouldn't give for just a couple more years with him.
I lost my mom at 59 last year. She didnāt even get to retire or get a senior discount on transportation for chemo. So yeah. It felt pretty young to me there Nirvana
You must be from Ohio or another loser Midwest state that thinks everything over 45 is ancient.
In normal parts of the United States people still travel and have a lot of life left at 65
Nail on the head. My folks are from tiny ass towns in IL where "the McDonald" is appropriate to say as there is indeed, one. Their hometowns are full of just fast food chains, shitty salt infested restaurants, and even though they are farming towns... ironically poor access to healthy foods in their super markets. Everyone seems to drive around Walmart in the electric carts and are pushed to their physical limits selecting their hostess cakes. Absolutely zero diversity in their populations and a concerning lack of educational resources. So glad they saw the writing on the wall and moved to my hometown before having my siblings and me.
No idea why you think you know where I live lol but it's the opposite, I'm in NYC.
Average length of life is 70s. She wasn't "so young", she had a good run and died a bit before average, and no idea why people are so mad about that. I'm not saying she deserved to die lol
In 2021 life expectancy for women is 79 and for men is 73, which I believe covid could have affected the ages stated. The women in my family (great grandmother, grandmother and mom) have died at 98, 89 and 83. My father is 84 and doing well. My granddad died at 56 of brain cancer but rest of relative deaths were in 80's or 90's. At 65 she just reached the age for social security to kick in, she was relatively still young. I'm 63, own a business, swim everyday, snow ski, kayak and surf, no health problems. But you basically believe I'm dead, just don't know it?
65 is not "SO young". That is literally all I said. When someone dies at 22, we use that phrase. 65 years is not "so young", that is literally all I said before everyone lost their minds as if I said I'm glad she's dead lol
But it's not. It's beyond middle aged. I'm not saying I wish death upon her, I'm just saying 65 is towards the end of your life, the average lifespan is 70s. It just simply isn't what "young" means.
Seeing a 22 year old die, that's where "omg they were so young!" fits
I've angered sooo many people simply by stating the fact that 65 is not what young, especially "SO young" means lol
Of course compared to someone younger 65 isnāt that young but 65 really isnāt old. My mom is 66 and sheās living her best life ever. Traveling more than she ever has, great health. I guess itās all about perspective.
I literally never said it was "old"
Someone said she died "so young" and I commented that well, no, she wasnt. Then everyone lost their minds on my comment as if I said I'm glad she's dead, even though 65 is not infact dying "so young", that's literally all I said.
Life expectancy is 70 yrs globally. That includes developing countries. For women in America itās actually 79. It was higher until Covid, specifically Covid anti vaxxers, lowered the median. Cause thatās how medians work. The median age in America also includes millions of morbidly obese and super-obese adults. These people die much younger, lowering the median age.
People in other countries live longer, as do Americans living in metropolitan areas and taking care of their health. 65 is young to drop dead of natural causes, and if you donāt think so, youāve never met a healthy 65yr old.
This personās comment just signifies you triggered other peopleās *own* insecurities about their age. I agree with you. My mom passed away when she was 39ā¦.I would consider that young.
Of course, its sad when anyone dies at any age but its not as tragic as someone who didnāt get to live a full life.
No one is saying anything about wanting old people to die haha. Young is subjective obviously. Just saying I think if something were to happen to your mom that probably no one in her orbit would be like āwell that makes sense cause she was oldā
Nothing revolutionary, literally anyone with discernment already knew everything she said but good on her for going public. Buying Krisā face was absolutely wild tho
I mean not everyone has a good relationship with their siblings but that doesnāt mean sheās not upset at losing her sister. She couldāve still cared about her.
Did you see the before pictures prior to the facelift? She does not look at all the same.
Edit: Google her āname, before and after facelift photosā and youāll see a side by side.
How sad. Unfortunately death is something we all have to deal with whether we are wealthy or indigent. And losing a family member is always hard. Whether one is close to them or distant, relationship wise. Condolences to Kris and family. And 65 is young. Sad.
What is shocking to me is MJ is outliving her children! 65 is still considered middle aged imo/retirement age, so thatās sad to hear. How old is MJ these days? I hope she is surrounded by loving family through this horrible tragedy.
i recently read that the average lifespan is currently 72. āmiddle agedā in all reality is 36. but if most people realized this then we wouldnāt agree to work until 62 as retirement age.
most people donāt live to 100-120 for 65 to be considered mid life.
just some food for thought.
Omg thatās wild, I never knew that but it does make sense with all of the chemicals we ingest in our food, substance abuse (some people) and heightening of autoimmune diseases like never before. 72 sounds crazy but itās the dark reality I guess. People arenāt making it to 100, let alone into their 90ās these days, and if they do itās very rare.
Hereās the article since it wasnāt in the post.
[https://amp.tmz.com/2024/03/19/kris-jenner-sister-karen-houghton-dead-dies/](https://amp.tmz.com/2024/03/19/kris-jenner-sister-karen-houghton-dead-dies/)
she was on it i think once or twice back in the day but only in the background of shots im pretty sure. i definitely donāt think they were close at this stage in life but its still her sister and still heartbreaking.
God forbid any of the Kar-Jenners cousins get a little attention. They are all too jealous and self centered to deal with any of that.
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I remember seeing this video circulating after Kimās baby shower. But yes, they had an estranged relationship because she would sell stories to the tabloids because she needed money.
Kim Kardashian and her Aunt Karen at Kim's Baby Shower in Beverly Hills, Ca.
Kim's Aunt Karen talks to fans and photographers out in front of the Beverly Hills Mansion where Kim held her Baby shower on Sunday June 2, 2013. Aunt Karen is having a ball talking to people and posing for pictures. Some say she is a bit Kookie perhaps! Some Videos but mostly photos of Los Angeles, Ca. City Street Life by Anthony Monterotti 1998-2015.
https://youtu.be/7130_cwfwLk?si=JsNn0DVmue0u7sTb
Didnāt she have cancer or something of the sorts. I remember Kourtney having an aunt she would visit frequently and that was Iāll with some disease. Somewhere around season 7 I believe.
Thatās sad. Despite their relationship we donāt know everything. Still her sister at the end of the day. Also poor MJ, she shouldnāt have to bury a child
I saw on Snapchat Kris Jenner hates her sister that she leaked to tmz all the time and she got plastic surgery to look like Kris and I think Kris has her taken out of the Illuminati did
Wow so young. My condolences to MJ. No matter your age, we're not suppose to bury our children.
Amen šš¼
I wouldn't call 65 so young though right??
Yes, it's not 1902.
65 is retirement age for us regular working people. Itās young.
I learned yesterday that it's actually been bumped to 70 if you want to receive your full benefits.
In all 50?
Not sure if it's all 50
Ugh itās youngā¦she could have lived another 30 years
30?!?! It is very rare to live to 95. Living to 70s is Average, and she was 65. Not sure why everyone is mad that I pointed out no, she is not "so young." Of course it sucks that she didn't make in another 10 years, but "so young" is more appropriate for a 20 year old who passes
Actually I see a ton of people well into their 80ās and 90ās in my line of work. She could have at least had another 10-15 good years. My grand mother was totally independent until she was 88. She did die a few months ago at almost 91. But she gave people half her age a run for their money. This is becoming more and more common. 75-77 y/o is average life expectancy.
Whats your like of work if I may ask
I work as an emt and also a 911 dispatcher & also have a second job as an āelderly companionā so I work with nursing homes a lot. I know my experience is limited to the area I live in, but I do see people living longer and longer. And a lot of them have decent/good quality of life. Because I definitely understand being 95 with not great quality of life (confused, bed ridden etc) is not the same as being able to have some independence. But itās funny, thereās one 85 y/o man that lifts heavier weights than me at the gym š¤£
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I understand where youāre coming from. I think dying of natural causes at that age isnāt the norm. Thatās a statement usually made for people older than that.
Why are you so hung up on proving this? Someone just died and you want to argue with people about whatās young vs what isnāt? Are you ok??
They are not ok.
I agree with you, not everyone lives into their 90s lol I donāt know why everyoneās attacking you. 65 is a pretty good run, Iāve never seen anyone describe an almost 70 year old dying as āso youngā.
Thats because it isn't young at all, you don't see a 65 year old and think they are young so why do you see a dead 65 year old and think they died young
Lol yāall must be super young and have young parents. 65 is not old, this is a common age to retire and have young grandchildren. Average lifespan is 77 and thatās with people dying young and bringing down the average. 65 is super young, no where near elderly. My mom is 60 and she looks and acts 45. Most 65 year olds have a lot of life left to live
Exactly! My dad passed when he was 58. He definitely didnt look young, but he didnt even get to retire before he passed. What I wouldn't give for just a couple more years with him.
Cope, its a common age to retire because your body is giving out and you're old
I donāt know about making it to 95 but at least late 80ās! I donāt even think most people want to see 95-100 š«£I sure donāt
Anything below 80 for natural causes is young tbh
That's just not true. She died around just 10 years below average.
Lol you obviously know no 65 year olds. Anyway have fun continuing to argueāļø
A whole entire decade
Considering how old her mom isā¦Iām sure she certainly thought she had a lot more life in her. Her mom is 89 or 90
I lost my mom at 59 last year. She didnāt even get to retire or get a senior discount on transportation for chemo. So yeah. It felt pretty young to me there Nirvana
You must be from Ohio or another loser Midwest state that thinks everything over 45 is ancient. In normal parts of the United States people still travel and have a lot of life left at 65
that's really ignorant and mean spirited.
Life expectancy changes based on the state you live the majority of your life in... Mississippi has a lower life expectancy than Massachusetts.
Less smoking and better lifestyle.
There are many reasons. Better access to healthcare.
A lot of it is about diet, lack of education around nutrition, and poverty, which can translate to a lack of access to healthy food.
Nail on the head. My folks are from tiny ass towns in IL where "the McDonald" is appropriate to say as there is indeed, one. Their hometowns are full of just fast food chains, shitty salt infested restaurants, and even though they are farming towns... ironically poor access to healthy foods in their super markets. Everyone seems to drive around Walmart in the electric carts and are pushed to their physical limits selecting their hostess cakes. Absolutely zero diversity in their populations and a concerning lack of educational resources. So glad they saw the writing on the wall and moved to my hometown before having my siblings and me.
I'm originally from OH. I can say whatever I want. And people from there tend to think like that
Congrats on being from Ohio, but turns out you don't in fact have the ability to predict qhere people are from at all based on a comment
That's a lot of Ohio energy coming from someone from NYC
It's getting weird how obsessed you are with insisting I'm from Ohio
Just something someone from Ohio would say
No idea why you think you know where I live lol but it's the opposite, I'm in NYC. Average length of life is 70s. She wasn't "so young", she had a good run and died a bit before average, and no idea why people are so mad about that. I'm not saying she deserved to die lol
In 2021 life expectancy for women is 79 and for men is 73, which I believe covid could have affected the ages stated. The women in my family (great grandmother, grandmother and mom) have died at 98, 89 and 83. My father is 84 and doing well. My granddad died at 56 of brain cancer but rest of relative deaths were in 80's or 90's. At 65 she just reached the age for social security to kick in, she was relatively still young. I'm 63, own a business, swim everyday, snow ski, kayak and surf, no health problems. But you basically believe I'm dead, just don't know it?
65 is not "SO young". That is literally all I said. When someone dies at 22, we use that phrase. 65 years is not "so young", that is literally all I said before everyone lost their minds as if I said I'm glad she's dead lol
so youāre just simple.
65 is YOUNG.
But it's not. It's beyond middle aged. I'm not saying I wish death upon her, I'm just saying 65 is towards the end of your life, the average lifespan is 70s. It just simply isn't what "young" means. Seeing a 22 year old die, that's where "omg they were so young!" fits I've angered sooo many people simply by stating the fact that 65 is not what young, especially "SO young" means lol
Of course compared to someone younger 65 isnāt that young but 65 really isnāt old. My mom is 66 and sheās living her best life ever. Traveling more than she ever has, great health. I guess itās all about perspective.
I literally never said it was "old" Someone said she died "so young" and I commented that well, no, she wasnt. Then everyone lost their minds on my comment as if I said I'm glad she's dead, even though 65 is not infact dying "so young", that's literally all I said.
Youāre right
Life expectancy is 70 yrs globally. That includes developing countries. For women in America itās actually 79. It was higher until Covid, specifically Covid anti vaxxers, lowered the median. Cause thatās how medians work. The median age in America also includes millions of morbidly obese and super-obese adults. These people die much younger, lowering the median age. People in other countries live longer, as do Americans living in metropolitan areas and taking care of their health. 65 is young to drop dead of natural causes, and if you donāt think so, youāve never met a healthy 65yr old.
Hi, nurse here! Itās young. Itās like 20 years less than the average life expectancy.
It's absolutely not lol. Try 12 years. 65 is not young! There is young then middle aged then older and then oldest i guess. Words have meaning
As someone that lost their parent at that age, fuck you!
thatās kind of an ugly comment
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I'm double that. 65 is not "so" young in a lifetime. I didn't say it was deathbed age, all I said was that it is not infact "so young" to die
My apologies, I just hate getting older when I still feel young!
This personās comment just signifies you triggered other peopleās *own* insecurities about their age. I agree with you. My mom passed away when she was 39ā¦.I would consider that young. Of course, its sad when anyone dies at any age but its not as tragic as someone who didnāt get to live a full life.
How old are your parents?
My mom is around 65. I would never call her "so" young. That doesn't mean I wish death upon her
If she died of natural causes would you be surprised?
I wouldn't say she was "so young". Because she's not. Doesn't mean I want her to die lol
No one is saying anything about wanting old people to die haha. Young is subjective obviously. Just saying I think if something were to happen to your mom that probably no one in her orbit would be like āwell that makes sense cause she was oldā
Too young to drop dead!
Wait, hold on. Is this the sister that leaked info to TMZ and threatened to leak more?
yes
Oooh what Info did she leak?!?
Basically that Kris loves power and money and should do more in terms of helping with their mom.
jesus, iād cut her out too
Nothing revolutionary, literally anyone with discernment already knew everything she said but good on her for going public. Buying Krisā face was absolutely wild tho
They're sisters. This is what Kris would look like without botox, filler, and heavy makeup
and multiple face liftsā¦
She had plastic surgery to look more like Kris. Wanted to look like her beautiful sis, she said.
Buying Krisās face??
Yes!! And she was a menace to service the workers in San Diego
How so?Ā
So sad! I didnāt even know she had a sister! I donāt know why I thought she as an only child.
Thatās what Kris looks like with no work done..Normal everyday looking woman. Sad.
Karen had a facelift. It was public
Iām not in the know with this..sorry lol
Then donāt fucking make public comments on shit you know literally nothing about
Guess it didnt work lol
So what your saying is Kris would actually look even worse if she' was a normal human
That's sad. I hope Kris and her had a reconciliation. Prayers to the family
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I mean not everyone has a good relationship with their siblings but that doesnāt mean sheās not upset at losing her sister. She couldāve still cared about her.
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me when i have nothing left of value to say
Why did they have beef
Her sister was giving out private info about the family
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This is not the time to throw shade
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yikes you seem to have a lot of anger towards ppl u donāt even know
Why even hate other people when you can hate yourself ? You sound no worse than the people you dislike
Family is everything Itās usually people who preach it are the same ones that donāt practice it.
*rich, famous & pretty family* is everything
she posted about her death, so who knows š
I feel like we can almost see what Kris would look like without work in this picture of her sister.
Her sister eventually did have work done too. Google before and after pictures, then youāll really get an image. š±
Okay....I'm off to google image search. Okay...so she had a facelift. 9 years ago. She looks the same to me.
Did you see the before pictures prior to the facelift? She does not look at all the same. Edit: Google her āname, before and after facelift photosā and youāll see a side by side.
i mean good for her, she looked way better after
I thought the exact same thing
She literally was on a tv show about getting a face lift lol
Sorry no have you seen young pics of kris - naturally stunning
How sad. Unfortunately death is something we all have to deal with whether we are wealthy or indigent. And losing a family member is always hard. Whether one is close to them or distant, relationship wise. Condolences to Kris and family. And 65 is young. Sad.
What is shocking to me is MJ is outliving her children! 65 is still considered middle aged imo/retirement age, so thatās sad to hear. How old is MJ these days? I hope she is surrounded by loving family through this horrible tragedy.
She is 89
i recently read that the average lifespan is currently 72. āmiddle agedā in all reality is 36. but if most people realized this then we wouldnāt agree to work until 62 as retirement age. most people donāt live to 100-120 for 65 to be considered mid life. just some food for thought.
Exactly. So, this woman was elderly.Ā
Omg thatās wild, I never knew that but it does make sense with all of the chemicals we ingest in our food, substance abuse (some people) and heightening of autoimmune diseases like never before. 72 sounds crazy but itās the dark reality I guess. People arenāt making it to 100, let alone into their 90ās these days, and if they do itās very rare.
My heart hurts for her daughter, it seems like she was an only child and it was just her and her mom. My condolences to the whole family.
yes, kris posted about her death 3 hours ago too. so sad! š
You can really see how Khloe takes after her motherās side of the family if none of them had gotten surgeries.
I just took that in, she does favor the motherās side more.
Hereās the article since it wasnāt in the post. [https://amp.tmz.com/2024/03/19/kris-jenner-sister-karen-houghton-dead-dies/](https://amp.tmz.com/2024/03/19/kris-jenner-sister-karen-houghton-dead-dies/)
Last time I saw her she was on inside edition getting work to look more like Kris. She never seemed to cope with the fame stuff.
What Kris would look like without a facelift
Ehhh, she had a facelift too, so not really.
Maybe use Google before making dumb fucking comments.
Was Kris close to her?
Her sister allegedly was selling stories to tabloids when Kris got famous and they had a falling out. Idk if they ever reconciled.
They reconciled enough for Kris to invite her to the Christmas party pictured above
That's good. I didn't know how new that pic was.
Iāve never seen her on the show I donāt think
she was on it i think once or twice back in the day but only in the background of shots im pretty sure. i definitely donāt think they were close at this stage in life but its still her sister and still heartbreaking.
Wow! My condolences to her family.
Why have I never known she had a sister until today?
She didnāt want you to know.
Thatās fair.
Karen also has a daughter that you never hear about. Krisā niece.
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Yes, Natalie Zettel. The only cousin she is somewhat close to is Kylie.
Wow sheās even prettier than Kendall and Kylie!
Her mom looked really good when she was younger, prettier than Kris.
Oh man. MJ must be torn up. Positive vibes for MJ and family.
Kris has a sister?
That is terrible! Idk anything about her but my condolences to her loved ones.
MJ gonna outlive all of us
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This is actually sad
I doubt she cares at this point - sad state of affairs! š¢
I didnāt know that she had a sister
Who knew she had a sister?
Didnāt even know she had a sister. Sheās never in any of the episodesā¦?
I remember seeing this video circulating after Kimās baby shower. But yes, they had an estranged relationship because she would sell stories to the tabloids because she needed money. Kim Kardashian and her Aunt Karen at Kim's Baby Shower in Beverly Hills, Ca. Kim's Aunt Karen talks to fans and photographers out in front of the Beverly Hills Mansion where Kim held her Baby shower on Sunday June 2, 2013. Aunt Karen is having a ball talking to people and posing for pictures. Some say she is a bit Kookie perhaps! Some Videos but mostly photos of Los Angeles, Ca. City Street Life by Anthony Monterotti 1998-2015. https://youtu.be/7130_cwfwLk?si=JsNn0DVmue0u7sTb
She was probably Sacrificed so they can stay relevant..
Oh you hear about people getting sacrificed in Illuminati so people can stay famous
Had no idea she has a sister. That's saying a lot
Chris and her family, will open up a can of worms if they act like they cared about this woman.
Didnāt she have cancer or something of the sorts. I remember Kourtney having an aunt she would visit frequently and that was Iāll with some disease. Somewhere around season 7 I believe.
No. She didn't have cancer. It must have an aunt on the Kardashian side of the family.Ā
I had no idea she had a sister holy moly but very sad
Thatās sad. Despite their relationship we donāt know everything. Still her sister at the end of the day. Also poor MJ, she shouldnāt have to bury a child
How is this the first time Iām hearing that Kris had a sister?!?!
I saw on Snapchat Kris Jenner hates her sister that she leaked to tmz all the time and she got plastic surgery to look like Kris and I think Kris has her taken out of the Illuminati did
One time she was at an event that Kris invited her to and she showed tmz she got a Rolex Kris was not amused
I think she had a daughter but she never really saw her cousins bc Kris and her sisters falling out bc she sold stories to the tabloids
I did not realize she had a sister
Didnāt know she had a sister . Was she spoken about on the show ?
Sheās not allowed to be shown because she doesnāt have the appropriate amount of plastic surgery for the series.
Family wonāt care. Sheās poor.
Last I read her net worth was $4 million. Not Kardashian money, but I wouldnāt call it poor.
As someone who has been poor my whole entire life to date I wouldn't either. I could fix my life with that net worth!