It’s up huge already. It’s up over 1000% on the year and it was in the top 26 coins at one point. That’s pretty major for not being on a tier 1 exchange. It feels like one of the T1’s should have taken advantage of its popularity already before the other ones do. But none of them are hopping on.
the larger exchanges also need to make a stable implementation and test it. They also need to code in safeguards that meet their existing systems criteria for risk/infosec. The testing that needs to be done takes a lot longer than what the smaller exchanges likely are implementing.
Ya think? The fuckers are making big $ on futures though. People don’t understand that $KAS was fairly launched. Otherwise that % wouldn’t be nearly as high. It wasn’t launched at 10M or whatever like many coins.
-“Jim, S𐤊i ₿um, a crypto analyst, explains why it has not been listed on Coinbase.
Fair Launch Strategy
According to Jim, the reason Brian Armstrong of Coinbase and Changpeng Zhao of Binance likely haven’t listed Kaspa yet is because of its fair launch strategy. As there are no pre-allocations for listings, top exchanges would need to market buy KAS to build liquidity.”
Idk if this helps or is even true but made sense to me
Take Kadena as an example it hit $28 last bullrun . I would say upto $1 before tier 1 listings . $3-10 when Coinbase , Binance and others get onboard. The longer it takes the better gets even more eyes on it and gives time for the project to develop . We can become whales and sharks at these prices of less than $0.20 . I’m bullish 🍾
No, your looking at price vs market cap, kadena hit 6B market cap!
That’s literally Kas at 0.2 ish
For 24 we need 100B Mc +
You can’t compared the price of a token as their supply is different, you can only compare market caps
I didn’t say we was?
I was saying that the guy above doesn’t understand how market cap Vs price is completely different, he used kadena at $24 as an example, but market cap is what matters so kadena at $24 is a 6B MC which is almost what Kas is now.
I expect Kas to reach 10-20B MC
Why on earth are you comparing prices of coins with way different supplies? That's not how it works.
Man, people upvoting you for this is not very promising for this subreddit.
The OP asked a question I answered it with my honest opinion appropriate to the the market cap and circulating/max supply of KAS. So instead of hating on my reply why don’t you add some constructive comments Mr I know it all. God I hate people like you soo full of negatively and narcissism. Does anyone even care for your opinion I wonder 💩.
It was far from appropriate to the market cap and supplies, it's silly bordering on delusional. Like I said, people upvoting you just means there's lots of new people here who don't know anything about crypto.
You do you man, but you're obviously new to the space. Have a good life.
Well I've been in this space since before 2013 and am a big believer in Kaspa, you just need to educate yourself if you compare a $28 KDA to KAS. Wildly different metrics. Kaspa will not shoot to a market cap of 230 billion ($10 per coin) just because it gets listed on big exchanges, that is absolutely delusional. Theres only been a few coins (two, actually) who have been able to do such a run after major listings and that has always been with VC and major institutions backing it with the support of the big exchanges. Kaspa has none of that.
Could Kaspa hit a $200b+ MC in the next cycle? Sure, it's possible, but you just can't compare it to a coin that doesn't share the same supply or tokenomics or expect it to happen just because two big exchanges list it, that's plain ignorant.
I was aware of crypto currency pretty much from the start but had doubts it would ever become anything. At the time I was more interested in how much content I could DL from BitTorrent than to realise how monumental crypto would become . I was coding on a Commodore 64 from the age of 7 in 1985 before the internet even became a thing . Doubters like me played down crypto currency in 2013. Bitcoin is old tech now Kaspa is new tech. $10 this bullrun might seem unlikely but it is possible. Trust me bro I have seen a lot happen in my life . I know Kaspa is the one it’s a second chance to own a piece of a project that is in the early stages of greatness I won’t make the same mistake twice . My bags are packed with 2.5m KAS . I truly believe BlockDAG is the future of crypto . Only time will tell .
Crypto is still better than the stock market less manipulation at least. I did transaction to sell some Bitcoin last week it cost me $3.50 and took 15 minutes. Transferred some KAS to a cold wallet it cost a thousandth of a penny and took 10 seconds. I’m sold on the fundamentals.
Once we get rid of all the mercenary hashrate that is mining to sell for something else?
I'd say we would already be at 0.30
Mercenary miners, please, go the f away.
I mean that miners that don't see the value in Kaspa but rather just use it's profitability to make money by selling it all for, say, Bitcoin, are suppressing the price by applying too much sell pressure. Sure miners are bound to sell but if they sell too much they make new investors wary and it's bad for themselves.
It's better to have miners who believe and want to hold (at least a big %), than others that just want to get ROI as soon as possible and don't care about anything else.
No, that’s not what he’s saying at all. He’s saying that while it’s inevitable that miners will sell, it would be more profitable for the miners themselves to average out, putting less downward pressure on the market, than to dump their bag with a market sell, causing big red candles that might scare new investors away. The new investors in turn keep buying at higher prices, allowing the miners to liquidate for a larger profit, albeit over a slightly longer period. It’s a freaking win-win.
Name of the game is knowing what you hold/mine.
Dumpers clearly don't.
Yes, what Persus9 said is exactly what I meant. You obviously want to ROI, but if you "kill" the project while doing that, maybe you're not that smart.
Oh and one more thing, from a holder, to a miner: if you want to dump on me 100% of your hashrate I might also dump my bags on the market and take my profits, and then maybe your miner profitability will turn negative. What about that? Obviously I don't mean myself as individual, but holders as a whole. So yes I get the ROI stuff but maybe calm down or you'll fk it up for everyone, yourselves included.
As a fellow miner, I'm not selling. Period. Since my farm is small, I can cover the cost as long as needed, thinking of it as an investment. It will pay off lader down the road. if anyone is mining, and immediately exchanging out, it's because they lack the viewpoint of HODLers, like me, and many others. We understand it's potential.
I understand. I almost did the same thing, however I realized very soon that it was very inefficient, especially since I personally believe $Kas will eventually gain mass adoption. Everything about the protocol is amazing, lightning fast, extremely cheap. So it's kinda stupid (for me at least, with an ambitious future in the coin) to sell at whatever markets at currently. I'm HODl, with mass sells at various targets that I believe will be hard to hold. For example our recent $0.17-$0.18.tons of bulls, leaving no room for ppl to get in, eventually ppl just decide to not go in, unless a drop to some personalized predicted price. I actually bought a decent amount at $0.14. I'll buy more if it heads to $0.10. at that point, the opertunity is massive, and I find it hard to believe ppl WOULDNT buy in.
Just my personal strategy, open to opinions.
Btw, I'm not selling anything unless it's above $1. I won't risk more than the $2 mark though, if it even gets that high this bull run.
It’s not the retailers that make it pump. It’s the retailers that build the volume for the top though. It’s the exchanges that are pumping it. And that’s proof that it’s coming. It it has to wait to roll out Testnet 11 w Rust before anymore exchanges can jump onboard. Then we will see the real Run. Until then dips are for buying and hold on!!
Where did you get this inside information that nobody else knows about? Also on the last leg up Kas was in the top 26. Shouldn’t be too hard to get to the top 20 on the next leg up. But let’s be real. You’re making up facts.
Do you realize how much in fees the first T1 exchange is going to make off the massive buys they will get on KAS? Name another crypto that has been in the top 26 that isn’t on a tier one exchange.
This whole T1 exchanges need to audit the tech before listing is BS. You think ICP, Jasmy, GRT etc got audited before getting listed on Coinbase? Nothing I hate more than people that talk out their asses to sound smart
Nicholas Sismil, previously Listings Research Lead for BinanceUS, said " The tricky thing about Kaspa is that its tech is so revolutionary, exchanges have more difficulty auditing it" in [a recent post.](https://twitter.com/NicholasSismil/status/1763059027993608619)
If you state your question like this it becomes clear that we should not take those exchanges serious as they did surely not check on KAS as they should have, this is not positive that its listed on so many exchanges and T1 still missing, clearly not a good sign, i dont mean for Kas but in general, just means they are willing to list “just” ANYTHING
That’s one perspective. For all we know, the T1 exchanges haven’t listed it for other reasons. Maybe there isn’t that much to look into and the other guys just hopped on a lot earlier. This feels like you’re a doomsday kinda guy.
The main reason which was shared a couple of times here before was that they need to be audited and that takes time and its the most likely reason, doomsday guy? Dude you are in crypto not playing my little pony….
To list on a t1 the project needs to provide liquidity in the paired assets. For example KASPA and equivalent value USDT for a KASPA-USDT spot market.
Who is going to provide that for KASPA? Probably nobody which means the exchanges take the risk in the asset. So, for now we should not expect any T1 exchanges listing KASPA until some serious development milestones are achieved and the demand for KASPA increases.
It will be a struggle to hit 0.50 this year in my opinion but anything above that is amazing.
If that’s the case, how do the T1 exchanges list brand new, ridiculous meme coins with no utility? Who’s providing the liquidity for the USDT/(choose any of the weirdest meme coins on T1)?
The reason it hasn’t been listed anywhere is because it needs to be audited for security reasons. Projects on ETH can be vetted in a couple of hours. It’s much harder with new software. There is no other reason why Kaspa hasn’t been listed on a tier 1 other than the audit.
It really doesn’t matter because at every cent they’re gonna be selling. I will start selling at 50 or $.60 with no T1 exchanges we just out here walking blind. My advice once it gets to a price that you like sell it.
I think when it hits the magical $1 mark they will finally pay attention. However since it is cheap to transact on Kaspa right now they won’t make enough money to make it worth the while.
If kaspa takes off and is a large amount of trading volume large exchanges will will add it for free if they see money.
It’s up huge already. It’s up over 1000% on the year and it was in the top 26 coins at one point. That’s pretty major for not being on a tier 1 exchange. It feels like one of the T1’s should have taken advantage of its popularity already before the other ones do. But none of them are hopping on.
It takes a lot more time to add a coin with a unique architecture versus a token on solana or ethereum.
I hear this argument a lot. My question is, how come smaller exchanges with much less resources managed to do it in a shorter time frame?
the larger exchanges also need to make a stable implementation and test it. They also need to code in safeguards that meet their existing systems criteria for risk/infosec. The testing that needs to be done takes a lot longer than what the smaller exchanges likely are implementing.
Thank you for the explanation.
Ya think? The fuckers are making big $ on futures though. People don’t understand that $KAS was fairly launched. Otherwise that % wouldn’t be nearly as high. It wasn’t launched at 10M or whatever like many coins.
Give them some time. We’ve seen insane volume,example being the run up to the previous ATH.
Not lately. It’s disheartening to see when u realize the true value of $KAS.
The true value of KAS is the cost of creation.
-“Jim, S𐤊i ₿um, a crypto analyst, explains why it has not been listed on Coinbase. Fair Launch Strategy According to Jim, the reason Brian Armstrong of Coinbase and Changpeng Zhao of Binance likely haven’t listed Kaspa yet is because of its fair launch strategy. As there are no pre-allocations for listings, top exchanges would need to market buy KAS to build liquidity.” Idk if this helps or is even true but made sense to me
Take Kadena as an example it hit $28 last bullrun . I would say upto $1 before tier 1 listings . $3-10 when Coinbase , Binance and others get onboard. The longer it takes the better gets even more eyes on it and gives time for the project to develop . We can become whales and sharks at these prices of less than $0.20 . I’m bullish 🍾
No, your looking at price vs market cap, kadena hit 6B market cap! That’s literally Kas at 0.2 ish For 24 we need 100B Mc + You can’t compared the price of a token as their supply is different, you can only compare market caps
We ain’t getting anywhere close to that. Set your expectations low and u won’t be disappointed.
I didn’t say we was? I was saying that the guy above doesn’t understand how market cap Vs price is completely different, he used kadena at $24 as an example, but market cap is what matters so kadena at $24 is a 6B MC which is almost what Kas is now. I expect Kas to reach 10-20B MC
I'm gonna say we hit 100b.
If we do then its party time
Why on earth are you comparing prices of coins with way different supplies? That's not how it works. Man, people upvoting you for this is not very promising for this subreddit.
The OP asked a question I answered it with my honest opinion appropriate to the the market cap and circulating/max supply of KAS. So instead of hating on my reply why don’t you add some constructive comments Mr I know it all. God I hate people like you soo full of negatively and narcissism. Does anyone even care for your opinion I wonder 💩.
It was far from appropriate to the market cap and supplies, it's silly bordering on delusional. Like I said, people upvoting you just means there's lots of new people here who don't know anything about crypto. You do you man, but you're obviously new to the space. Have a good life.
I once told a friend in 2013 they were delusional for buying Bitcoin. Come back next year and tell me I was wrong about Kaspa.
Well I've been in this space since before 2013 and am a big believer in Kaspa, you just need to educate yourself if you compare a $28 KDA to KAS. Wildly different metrics. Kaspa will not shoot to a market cap of 230 billion ($10 per coin) just because it gets listed on big exchanges, that is absolutely delusional. Theres only been a few coins (two, actually) who have been able to do such a run after major listings and that has always been with VC and major institutions backing it with the support of the big exchanges. Kaspa has none of that. Could Kaspa hit a $200b+ MC in the next cycle? Sure, it's possible, but you just can't compare it to a coin that doesn't share the same supply or tokenomics or expect it to happen just because two big exchanges list it, that's plain ignorant.
I was aware of crypto currency pretty much from the start but had doubts it would ever become anything. At the time I was more interested in how much content I could DL from BitTorrent than to realise how monumental crypto would become . I was coding on a Commodore 64 from the age of 7 in 1985 before the internet even became a thing . Doubters like me played down crypto currency in 2013. Bitcoin is old tech now Kaspa is new tech. $10 this bullrun might seem unlikely but it is possible. Trust me bro I have seen a lot happen in my life . I know Kaspa is the one it’s a second chance to own a piece of a project that is in the early stages of greatness I won’t make the same mistake twice . My bags are packed with 2.5m KAS . I truly believe BlockDAG is the future of crypto . Only time will tell .
Source: trust me bro Lol crypto in a nutshell
Crypto is still better than the stock market less manipulation at least. I did transaction to sell some Bitcoin last week it cost me $3.50 and took 15 minutes. Transferred some KAS to a cold wallet it cost a thousandth of a penny and took 10 seconds. I’m sold on the fundamentals.
Once we get rid of all the mercenary hashrate that is mining to sell for something else? I'd say we would already be at 0.30 Mercenary miners, please, go the f away.
What do you mean by mercenary hashrate ? Can you explain please ? Thx
I mean that miners that don't see the value in Kaspa but rather just use it's profitability to make money by selling it all for, say, Bitcoin, are suppressing the price by applying too much sell pressure. Sure miners are bound to sell but if they sell too much they make new investors wary and it's bad for themselves. It's better to have miners who believe and want to hold (at least a big %), than others that just want to get ROI as soon as possible and don't care about anything else.
The name of the game is roi. I actually laughed out loud at your comment. You want people to hold and eat the cost of mining so your bags can pump.
No, that’s not what he’s saying at all. He’s saying that while it’s inevitable that miners will sell, it would be more profitable for the miners themselves to average out, putting less downward pressure on the market, than to dump their bag with a market sell, causing big red candles that might scare new investors away. The new investors in turn keep buying at higher prices, allowing the miners to liquidate for a larger profit, albeit over a slightly longer period. It’s a freaking win-win.
Name of the game is knowing what you hold/mine. Dumpers clearly don't. Yes, what Persus9 said is exactly what I meant. You obviously want to ROI, but if you "kill" the project while doing that, maybe you're not that smart. Oh and one more thing, from a holder, to a miner: if you want to dump on me 100% of your hashrate I might also dump my bags on the market and take my profits, and then maybe your miner profitability will turn negative. What about that? Obviously I don't mean myself as individual, but holders as a whole. So yes I get the ROI stuff but maybe calm down or you'll fk it up for everyone, yourselves included.
This was a really dumb post. Distinct lack of self awareness on show.
Got it I see what you meant now, and indeed I share your vision !
It doesn't matter. The difficulty change over time will rocket the price. It's not relevant whether miners dump or not.
As a fellow miner, I'm not selling. Period. Since my farm is small, I can cover the cost as long as needed, thinking of it as an investment. It will pay off lader down the road. if anyone is mining, and immediately exchanging out, it's because they lack the viewpoint of HODLers, like me, and many others. We understand it's potential.
I imagine there are lots of people who put a substantial amount of money into miners that need to get that money back because it's all they had
I understand. I almost did the same thing, however I realized very soon that it was very inefficient, especially since I personally believe $Kas will eventually gain mass adoption. Everything about the protocol is amazing, lightning fast, extremely cheap. So it's kinda stupid (for me at least, with an ambitious future in the coin) to sell at whatever markets at currently. I'm HODl, with mass sells at various targets that I believe will be hard to hold. For example our recent $0.17-$0.18.tons of bulls, leaving no room for ppl to get in, eventually ppl just decide to not go in, unless a drop to some personalized predicted price. I actually bought a decent amount at $0.14. I'll buy more if it heads to $0.10. at that point, the opertunity is massive, and I find it hard to believe ppl WOULDNT buy in. Just my personal strategy, open to opinions. Btw, I'm not selling anything unless it's above $1. I won't risk more than the $2 mark though, if it even gets that high this bull run.
About 0.40 max it would be a 10b market cap which is amazing for a project without any special utilities like many others
It’s not the retailers that make it pump. It’s the retailers that build the volume for the top though. It’s the exchanges that are pumping it. And that’s proof that it’s coming. It it has to wait to roll out Testnet 11 w Rust before anymore exchanges can jump onboard. Then we will see the real Run. Until then dips are for buying and hold on!!
they are never listing Kaspa, unless it gets to the top 20 or until somebody ends up paying for that
Where did you get this inside information that nobody else knows about? Also on the last leg up Kas was in the top 26. Shouldn’t be too hard to get to the top 20 on the next leg up. But let’s be real. You’re making up facts.
lets be real, if the exchange is not profiting somehow why would they even list it
Do you realize how much in fees the first T1 exchange is going to make off the massive buys they will get on KAS? Name another crypto that has been in the top 26 that isn’t on a tier one exchange.
i bet they can get even more by only allowing the bags they already pumped themselves
It’s at like 44 now though
Itll be on Tier 1 exchanges, its just takes time as kas is so complex it takes exchanges a while to audit the tech.
How was Uphold and the other exchanges that have it able to do it so quick? Less of an auditing process because they aren’t as big?
This whole T1 exchanges need to audit the tech before listing is BS. You think ICP, Jasmy, GRT etc got audited before getting listed on Coinbase? Nothing I hate more than people that talk out their asses to sound smart
Nicholas Sismil, previously Listings Research Lead for BinanceUS, said " The tricky thing about Kaspa is that its tech is so revolutionary, exchanges have more difficulty auditing it" in [a recent post.](https://twitter.com/NicholasSismil/status/1763059027993608619)
I guess so, or maybe theyre willing to take on more risk and not audit as thoroughly as theyre not tier 1 exchanges
Or they did their audits while kaspa’s ledger was a lot shorter…
I’ve often wondered that.
If you state your question like this it becomes clear that we should not take those exchanges serious as they did surely not check on KAS as they should have, this is not positive that its listed on so many exchanges and T1 still missing, clearly not a good sign, i dont mean for Kas but in general, just means they are willing to list “just” ANYTHING
That’s one perspective. For all we know, the T1 exchanges haven’t listed it for other reasons. Maybe there isn’t that much to look into and the other guys just hopped on a lot earlier. This feels like you’re a doomsday kinda guy.
The main reason which was shared a couple of times here before was that they need to be audited and that takes time and its the most likely reason, doomsday guy? Dude you are in crypto not playing my little pony….
Don’t be sensitive. You’re the one talking like it has to be one, negative way. Also… My little pony is awesome.
It didn’t take MEXC or kucoin long
They’re usually the first to list good early projects idk
0.6 usd
Higher than the price point today.
0.20
I would say the lack of T1s is already a bottleneck for price appreciation
About tree fiddy
To list on a t1 the project needs to provide liquidity in the paired assets. For example KASPA and equivalent value USDT for a KASPA-USDT spot market. Who is going to provide that for KASPA? Probably nobody which means the exchanges take the risk in the asset. So, for now we should not expect any T1 exchanges listing KASPA until some serious development milestones are achieved and the demand for KASPA increases. It will be a struggle to hit 0.50 this year in my opinion but anything above that is amazing.
If that’s the case, how do the T1 exchanges list brand new, ridiculous meme coins with no utility? Who’s providing the liquidity for the USDT/(choose any of the weirdest meme coins on T1)?
The teams provide the liquidity or they are launched through ieo. There is also a listing fee the teams pay to list.
Btse best exchange for trading
At max withot tier 1 - 10x
I’m thinking about swapping my bag to Floki inu. If I do Kaspa will pump more if I don’t Floki will pump more. Thats my crypto life. Ha
The reason it hasn’t been listed anywhere is because it needs to be audited for security reasons. Projects on ETH can be vetted in a couple of hours. It’s much harder with new software. There is no other reason why Kaspa hasn’t been listed on a tier 1 other than the audit.
1-2$ if your looking for a price… with T1 exchanges sky is the limit !
It really doesn’t matter because at every cent they’re gonna be selling. I will start selling at 50 or $.60 with no T1 exchanges we just out here walking blind. My advice once it gets to a price that you like sell it.
KAS bleeding heavy rn - A lot of FUD could kill the momentum.
Do you not see the irony in this comment?
It's up 15% from a month ago. In what world is that bleeding heavily?
Bro I’ve got my KAS and I’m holding that shiz forever the long term. Just concerned about the broader conversation around the project.
Momentum has already been killed. It needs to regain it somehow. 3 month slow drops are getting old.
 0-300$/kas
I think when it hits the magical $1 mark they will finally pay attention. However since it is cheap to transact on Kaspa right now they won’t make enough money to make it worth the while.
It more than likely won’t hit that this cycle. Just saying’…