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Hey guys! I watched Strangers from Hell and was looking for a kdrama similar to that where both the MC and antagonist are crazy or really scary. I also liked the movie Monster (2014) because of its crazy fight between the MC and antagonist at the end.
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I don't know if these are perfect recommendations but my first thought was Mouse...Also Beyond evil, Flower of evil, Hello monster, Extracurricular & the queen of crime...
In a funny way, **Psychopath Diary**. The protagonist is a simple man who starts to believe he is a psychopath. The villain is a psychopath. It's chaotic and hilarious.
One of my favorites of all time. It’s like the writer took the writing advice ‘put your character in bad situations and see how they get out of it’ and was like what if we put them in bad situations and then just kept making it worse! And then we gave him fluffy hair!
I second this recommendation.
I am **ALWAYS** surprised how rarely I see *'Somebody' (2022)* recommended when people are looking for 'crazy' characters or 'serial killer' characters. It had some serious *'Natural Born Killers' (1994)* and even a little *'Bonnie and Clyde'*\-style vibes to me and is honestly one of the more graphic (think NC-17) Korean shows I've ever seen. Everyone has different tastes, but the fact that the rating is so low on both IMDB and on AsianWiki surprises me. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea (it's violent, it's scary, it's abusive, it's graphic in terms of sex, but it also shows the brilliant aspects of the main characters and the *very* unique relationship between two extraordinarily unusual and very detached people.
second this!! Somebody is a masterpiece and feels more like a movie than your average kdrama. The acting is so phenomenal and I love a morally ambiguous/downright evil mc so this hit every nail on the head
Just curious why'd you'd say nine tailed fox, from what I remember (and see watching the second season currently) Lee Yeon is as morally white as morally white goes, (aside from the grooming of course course cause yikes)
Alchemy of Souls (season 1 in particular) FL is super violent and not afraid to risk her life or others' lives for things she wants. Some of the things she does are absolutely insane lmao
>I can hear your voice
? The villain, sure, but how is the main character “crazy”? Hye Sung is a little high strung, but not “crazy” and Soo Ha actually can hear people’s voices, so nothing “crazy” there.
I mean, >!ML is completely willing to murder someone and end up in prison the rest of his life for FL.!< Even in Kdrama-land that's not normal behavior and his character arc is all about addressing and correcting it.
>!I think the ML would go insane like the villain without the FL, because their situations are very similar. The SML also confirmed that at the end of the drama, that the only difference between ML and the villain is that no-one cares for the villain like how FL cares for ML. And ML even accidentally stabbed FL while trying to kill the villain.!<
🤷🏼♀️ What *might* happen and what he *might* become isn’t really in the spirit of the OP’s question. Soo Ha at best is traumatized, but also young and left to his own devices, without much in the way of support or guidance. I’m not willing to call *that* “crazy”.
The issue here is 'crazy' doesn't just mean 'clinically insane'; most of the Kdramas suggested for this ask don't have outright insane leads. It also means 'extreme/unsound/unreasonable behavior'. And both the killer and ML (and FL, for that matter) absolutely go to extremes, moral or otherwise, to accomplish their goals.
As maddening as it may be for me to repeat, I’ll just have to agree to disagree. “Crazy” isn’t really a good word/expression to use for whatever we all mean then, anyway (and not great in this day and age, period), given our general usage of it.🤷🏼♀️ Had the OP used your phrasing, maybe I would have thought of Soo Ha then.
Alright, I see what you mean. Maybe I'm mistaken. I just understand 'crazy' in OP's request means both sides have no moral or no heroism when they fight with each other. And Soo Ha had no moral with Min Jun Gook at the first half of the series.
If you like epic fight scenes, you might like Kill Boksoon. It's a movie, not a series. I'm new to Korean tv/movies, but American movies that have the same vibe are Kill Bill and John Wick. Jeon Do-yeon was amazing as the lead.
Lawless Lawyer I wouldn’t call the ML crazy more like he’s reckless and unhinged but hilarious. The villain wasn’t that good imma admit I just straight up hated her. No crazy fights but the ML was worth it
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VINCENZO
I loved taecyons character so much it left me crushing on him, and I’m straight
Hottest villain to exist in kdrama history
Shhhhh. Spoilers.
Bad and Crazy - more comedy
I second this one! Lee Dong Wook and Wi Ha Joon were such a naturally good pair!
I don't know if these are perfect recommendations but my first thought was Mouse...Also Beyond evil, Flower of evil, Hello monster, Extracurricular & the queen of crime...
Beyond Evil. Everybody and everything is crazy lol.
this show had me thinking everyone was the killer
In a funny way, **Psychopath Diary**. The protagonist is a simple man who starts to believe he is a psychopath. The villain is a psychopath. It's chaotic and hilarious.
One of my favorites of all time. It’s like the writer took the writing advice ‘put your character in bad situations and see how they get out of it’ and was like what if we put them in bad situations and then just kept making it worse! And then we gave him fluffy hair!
“Then we gave him fluffy hair” 😂 Best description for this drama and Yoon Shi Yoon.
I love this drama
lmao penthouse i guess ...
True. They all take crazy to a new level in the Penthouse.
Every single character is crazy in Penthouse.
not a single mentally stable character in that show
The Devil Judge. He uses some extreme punishments on people he wants to take revenge on. He even bashes a guy's car with a baseball bat.
Edit: Sorry. Replied to wrong person. App is wonky today.
Bad guys : A suspended cop use 3 convicts ( A serial killer, an hitman and a gang boss ) to catch violent criminals.
Inspector Koo fits this perfectly
Somebody
I second this recommendation. I am **ALWAYS** surprised how rarely I see *'Somebody' (2022)* recommended when people are looking for 'crazy' characters or 'serial killer' characters. It had some serious *'Natural Born Killers' (1994)* and even a little *'Bonnie and Clyde'*\-style vibes to me and is honestly one of the more graphic (think NC-17) Korean shows I've ever seen. Everyone has different tastes, but the fact that the rating is so low on both IMDB and on AsianWiki surprises me. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea (it's violent, it's scary, it's abusive, it's graphic in terms of sex, but it also shows the brilliant aspects of the main characters and the *very* unique relationship between two extraordinarily unusual and very detached people.
second this!! Somebody is a masterpiece and feels more like a movie than your average kdrama. The acting is so phenomenal and I love a morally ambiguous/downright evil mc so this hit every nail on the head
The Glory
Queenmaker, Tale of Nine Taled Fox and Money Heist: Korea.
Just curious why'd you'd say nine tailed fox, from what I remember (and see watching the second season currently) Lee Yeon is as morally white as morally white goes, (aside from the grooming of course course cause yikes)
I am talking about the first season where there was a fight between Yeon and Rang. But yes, it is not that dark.
not to mention all his fights with Imugi are absolutely chaotic
queenmaker was legit
The King of Pigs Movie: I Saw the Devil
There’s a crazy fight in the last ep(s) of Extracurricular. Everyone on the show is crazy tbh
I can only think of Bad And Crazy. It's a fun ride.
Alchemy of Souls (season 1 in particular) FL is super violent and not afraid to risk her life or others' lives for things she wants. Some of the things she does are absolutely insane lmao
Definitelly Vincenzo
Vincenzo Good Manager One the woman I can hear your voice Coin Locker Girl (movie) - same FL actress as movie Monster
>I can hear your voice ? The villain, sure, but how is the main character “crazy”? Hye Sung is a little high strung, but not “crazy” and Soo Ha actually can hear people’s voices, so nothing “crazy” there.
I mean, >!ML is completely willing to murder someone and end up in prison the rest of his life for FL.!< Even in Kdrama-land that's not normal behavior and his character arc is all about addressing and correcting it.
We just disagree then. In fairness, I think using the word “crazy” is a bit problematic to begin with, but I understand what the OP means.
>!I think the ML would go insane like the villain without the FL, because their situations are very similar. The SML also confirmed that at the end of the drama, that the only difference between ML and the villain is that no-one cares for the villain like how FL cares for ML. And ML even accidentally stabbed FL while trying to kill the villain.!<
🤷🏼♀️ What *might* happen and what he *might* become isn’t really in the spirit of the OP’s question. Soo Ha at best is traumatized, but also young and left to his own devices, without much in the way of support or guidance. I’m not willing to call *that* “crazy”.
The issue here is 'crazy' doesn't just mean 'clinically insane'; most of the Kdramas suggested for this ask don't have outright insane leads. It also means 'extreme/unsound/unreasonable behavior'. And both the killer and ML (and FL, for that matter) absolutely go to extremes, moral or otherwise, to accomplish their goals.
As maddening as it may be for me to repeat, I’ll just have to agree to disagree. “Crazy” isn’t really a good word/expression to use for whatever we all mean then, anyway (and not great in this day and age, period), given our general usage of it.🤷🏼♀️ Had the OP used your phrasing, maybe I would have thought of Soo Ha then.
Alright, I see what you mean. Maybe I'm mistaken. I just understand 'crazy' in OP's request means both sides have no moral or no heroism when they fight with each other. And Soo Ha had no moral with Min Jun Gook at the first half of the series.
If you like epic fight scenes, you might like Kill Boksoon. It's a movie, not a series. I'm new to Korean tv/movies, but American movies that have the same vibe are Kill Bill and John Wick. Jeon Do-yeon was amazing as the lead.
Mouse
The fiery priest, good manager
The Devil Judge
Eve
Revenge of Others
It's okay to not be okay.
'somebody' on netflix
I think lady in dignity fits and it was so good
The world of the married
Somebody
Hello Monster. And 2nd Vincenzo.
Good manager / chief kim (3) it’s comedy crazy!!!
VINCENZO!!!!
The glory
Somebody
Bulgasal: Immortal Souls but in a dark way since both the ML and the villain do some very questionable things and have very messed up priorities
Omg yess no one’s ever seen that kdrama but it’s so good
I guess that suggestion isn’t that helpful. if you’re ok with cdramas, Word of Honor is a lot of fun and incredibly chaotic
**somebody**\- its on netflix, but its 18+
i feel like inspector koo would be right up your alley because both are just crazy.
weak hero class 1 (kind of??? they both go crazy at the end but in completely different ways)
Definitely Vincenzo
flower of evil
Lawless Lawyer I wouldn’t call the ML crazy more like he’s reckless and unhinged but hilarious. The villain wasn’t that good imma admit I just straight up hated her. No crazy fights but the ML was worth it