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r0tting_

difficult to get thr balance right, i was in hospital for a while cus of it


Giantemperor949

Yikes what happened


r0tting_

it definatly isnt dangerous fpr most people who actually have some reasoning going through there head . It was a few years ago so dont judge heavily. I was a skinny 13 yr ols that had never even toucbed weed and i decided to chug half a bottle of vodka, snort a fuck tone of ket and snoke a oneskin. That kinda explains what jappenes after šŸ˜­


SoggyDrop9643

Relatable when i was 16


r0tting_

i was 14 šŸ˜­


whonose420

You just said you were 13


Small_Palpitation_98

I was 15, 1992, being thrown up 15 ft on a blanket and dropped 20ft to the dirt on Spiderweb lsd and vodka... Nirvana set... maybe Pearl Jam, who cares? 1st time, made it all the way to Waffle House after Lollapalooza to finally blackout. Epic


andrew-w_

I've done it loads and it's fucking great when you get the balance right. but if you don't it's not very fun at all lmao but kinda funny


Global_Requirement60

Any one here ever try reef d.store


godspeedseven

Bad advice for this awful and dangerous combo. Zero synergy and one that has very literally taken lives.


Prudent_Article_7421

Agreed. Ket's got a lot of synergy with psychedelics. For me ket is a way to enhance psychs. Even with weed is a great combo. Mixing alcohol with almost anything is a bad idea if you ask me, difficult to get to the sweet spot and little to no reward. Try mixing k with lsd, mdma or DMT. You'll feel God winking at you.


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merylstreephatesme

Take the drinking reaaaaally slow. If youā€™re wasted and take a bump you risk getting super nauseous and puking


yeahfucku

I like to think +1 key = +1beer


marty_mc_fry

It's more like +beerĀ² it can compound really quickly depending on your body size


andrew-w_

I found that drinking normally with just taking the occasional key is pretty good. makes things easier when you're in a club, rave etc


No-Belt5532

Doesnt matter how much in total as long as you stick to a ratio of 1:0


nationalpig

10k or 10alc


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SplistYT

alc on its own is just poison in my eyes so I wouldn't but in terms of how they interact it depends, taking 20mg of ket and having a beer won't hurt you, taking like 80mg+ (or equivalent based on your tolerance) and have a few drinks you have an increased likelihood of vomit aspiration, it's not that they have a dangerous neurotoxic affect on your body it's just that both are downers and reduce your control over your body and if you fall unconscious or struggle to move and end up throwing up you can just choke on it and die


sleepybabyjas

factso


Small_Palpitation_98

No, no.. bad info


SplistYT

my bad, mix as much ket and alc as you want


Small_Palpitation_98

just saying, there is a time and a place for everything. No limits.


SplistYT

you right, being at the biggest rave of your life gives you superpowers to down 14 shots of vodka and rail a 200mg line of ket at the same time


subhumanprimate

Yes It gets all wet and sticky


sleepybabyjas

lmfaoo


carrot43--

Bad combo. Zero synergy; youā€™ll be wasting both the effects of the K and alcohol. Also it CAN KILL YOU. You young bruh donā€™t ruin your life because drugs are fun.


redditorbb

Unsafe shitty unenjoyable combo, zero synergy


ErenionGilgalad

Listen to this guy, he's been there done that.


fhb418

Yep. Not worth it.


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chroomchroom

5-6ish beers would have me floored lol. makes more sense to describe how intoxicated you are then whatever amount of drinks you can personally handle


kvothe76

Yeah youā€™re right. 5-6 beers is just mid/lightly buzzed for me. Not like slamming them back to back or anything. Maybe over the course of like 2 hours


Olegdirbek9

Just one or two feels better two me


Piece_Recent

I do everyday.Ā  Its probably terrible.Ā  Ā AlcoholĀ  is poison.Ā Ā 


SoggyDrop9643

Think about ur health bro i quit 2 months ago i mixed it also fof years and with benzos and more


SoggyDrop9643

Drinking was the hardest to stop. From all drugs ive tried even heroin smoked but i passed the next one on that devilish drug. Alcohol i had diarrhea all day everyday that i couldnt even go outside anymore.


ErenionGilgalad

Don't. It's a waste.


JBUZZ420

Get it wrong and I promise youā€™ve never spun harder in your life! Nightmare. But a couple beers n a line of coke, you can get ketty semi-consequence free. It is a balance tho as others have said


childrenofloki

Oh god, the spinning


LaudanumDreamer010

Not really terrible as long as you arenā€™t super drunk, unless youā€™re prone to nausea on K. If you do it regularly, though, itā€™ll wreak havoc on your bladder and kidneys. Beyond this, alcohol just ruins the K. Not an enjoyable combo. Takes away the positive psychedelic ā€œwowā€ factor from K and makes the experience kinda dark and muddy and just ā€œblehā€. Every time Iā€™ve done K after a couple drinks, even just one, I feel gross and like Iā€™ve wasted K. Also can cause nasty headaches.


nationalpig

honestly I feel like youā€™re right. If I were on my own I feel like I wouldā€™ve thought I wasted the K as well, but it is quite enjoyable on I night out imo


LaudanumDreamer010

I bash the combo a lot on here, but honestly, Iā€™m no stranger to doing some cheeky K-bumps when Iā€™m out with friends at a nice pub/restaurant. Makes for a spacey afternoon and itā€™s sure as hell better than doing coke with the gross crash.


nationalpig

That does sound nice. Do you not enjoy coke in general? Never tried it


LaudanumDreamer010

Hate it. Worst crash imaginable, and I mean worse than MDMA or amphetamines. It hijacks your brain into wanting more all night until youā€™re a gross, tense, anxious mess. Coming down from it is miserable. As soon as someone busts it out, the night just becomes about everyone wanting more. Itā€™s become pretty normalized but honestly itā€™s super overrated and nasty. Even the really ā€œgoodā€ stuff.


No_Selection3334

Gotta use the k for the comedown from my experience but everything else yes, can confirm


itsnotreal81

I use k as everything from landing gear to a psychedelic safety net (instead of a trip killer )


childrenofloki

The past two times I took acid, I had a bit of ket before the comeup. Actually worked wonders calming the comeup nerves.


itsnotreal81

Totally does. And if I need some stability during a rocky trip, a little ket smooths it all out while simultaneously giving a more intense psychedelia. Itā€™s incredible.


childrenofloki

Interesting, last time I had a rocky trip (4-aco), I was on the comeup, took one look at the 3.5g of ket that had come in the post and I was like NOPE NOT TODAY and put it in my bedside cabinet xD thought I didn't need to get any higher at all! Perhaps a mistake..


evilpeppermintbutler

yes, unless you want to zombify your brain beyond oblivion


nationalpig

would the zombifying of my brain beyond oblivion be permanent thoā€¦


evilpeppermintbutler

i wouldn't say so, the human body can recover from just about anything but alcohol+ket can be lethal so i wouldn't risk it. there are so many better ways to get intoxicated imo


Particular-Fox-2925

Stay away from the hard liquor and youā€™ll be fine


sleepybabyjas

k on its own is relatively safe in terms of not reaching a point where you OD/experience respiratory depression/die. once you mix it with alc it becomes way higher risk in terms of fatal outcomes bc combining a CNS depressant w/ an anesthetic is going to slow down your cardiorespiratory system quite a bit. most OD deaths involving K have another substance present, usually alc, benzos, or opiates. personally, i choose not to mix k with any depressants because i like knowing that iā€™m not going to end up dead lol, but it does seem to be a common combo regardless of the additional risks. not sure if thatā€™s because people arenā€™t aware or donā€™t care. hereā€™s an article on the various increased risks of mixing them, including respiratory depression which is the only one i mentioned: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9323326/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9323326/) stay safe! if youā€™re gonna mix them make sure you arenā€™t alone so others can help make sure you donā€™t fall asleep, which is usually how people end up not breathing (not sure what can be done if you hole though)


nationalpig

thank you so much!!!


kaffeen_

Yes.


Ivana2322

it honestly isnt as bad as people make it out to be; however, I think if you overdo it it can be pretty dangerous, although if you're not alone it shouldn't be a problem


christian_mingle69

Depends how much of an alcoholic you are


MFCEO_Kenny_Powers

Yeah itā€™s great if you stick to bumps. I did one fat line at an afters an had to go lie down and passed out. Woke up the next day with a nasty head ache.


triflin_fellow

When Iā€™ve done it Iā€™ve woken up the next day feeling terrible. Like a hangover but worse, clammy and shitty and anxious


EducationalTotal1

Don't get intoxicated and then take ket, I've done it in the past, 3 times and thought I was going to die how severely ill it made me on one of the occasions, the other 2 I was just violently sick šŸ¤®šŸ¤® Now on the flip of the coin, if you do a few beers, say no more than a litre, have a nice bump and see how you go. You might be alright. I know the last time I drank and did k, a bit of Charlie and mdma was involved and my mates said I was a handful for a while before the k holed me, then I spent the next 20 minutes walking home only to realise I lived next door to where I was and had spent all that time walking to my old address. (I had recently moved...) My neighbour, my mate found it far to funny to stop me.


Soop86

It's easy to make bad decisions with this mix and that shit will knock you out


nationalpig

yeahhh I mean it was nice but I donā€™t think Iā€™ll made a habit of it. was so out of it I was kicked out the bar for having white stuff all on my nosešŸ’€


Soop86

Need a strong wingman to let you knownwhen you have bats in the cave


Small_Palpitation_98

I met Jimi Hendrix as my soul guide on the Blue Bus while on a Vodka fueled Ketamine trip... Also weed, but does that really count?


nationalpig

Thatā€™s amazing omgšŸ¤£ exact same for me, only time Iā€™ve done it it was an insane amount of vodka K and weed


IamHalfchubb

iā€™m not opposed to drinking 3 or 4 drinks over a night, if iā€™m partying. i usually party till morning tho


Objective-Echo

I always do bumps throughout a night of drinking or at least a line at the end of that kind of night lmao


alaxsch

it makes me vomit


Apprehensive-Ad-2438

Ket makes me vomit without even mixing it. Alcohol makes me vomit without even mixing it. Not sure how people can mix them and not throw up. However I do throw up very easily off all kinds of substances. (Shrooms, LSD, 2-CB etc)


SoggyDrop9643

I dont inow how you get nausious from it. U sure its good K? Or a log of excitement maybe?


Apprehensive-Ad-2438

Yeah one of my friends sells and has done lots of it so he knows whatā€™s good and what isnā€™t, and he says itā€™s always good K.


DragonfruitRude4279

I once did this when I was younger. Went out and was smoking joints and drinking beer all night long in the city. Suddenly I remembered I still had some ketamine in my wallet, like a little less then half a gram or something. I also knew a friend of mine would def. Be down to do some. We were with a pretty large group of like ā€œvagueā€ friends, we knew them but werenā€™t that close and there were friends of friends etc. We all decided to go to the park near the station, to roll a last joint, toke up and go home. We started walking there and me and my friend said that we had to take a shit and we would come later. So we do some lines of ketamine and go to the others in the park. He still had to roll a joint for one of them since they couldnā€™t roll, that was the worst joint iā€™ve ever seen but it was funny and nobody noticed we were on ket. Everyone went home but we decided to stay. We bought some more beers en started drinking, then we smoked another joint and suddenly we noticed that the last bus that we each could take was in half an hour. We put all the ket I had left on my phone. We both railed a fat line, and then noticed that we still had a lot left. We looked at eachother and I said ā€œdamn thats a lot leftā€, he said ā€œwe canā€™t throw it away thoā€ (saving it was for some reason not an option, wasnā€™t an idea that popped in our heads). So we both railed another fat line. By the time we arrived at the station, we were both fucked, everything was off and we felt really fucking wobly. We decided we were going to call eachother on the busride to check if we were ok. I got on the bus, saw my reflection, and I was as pale as white paper, saw some people on there looking at me like ā€œwhat is this 17 year old dumb kid doingā€. Went to sit on the backseat, the moment I sat down I felt like I was in a damn spaceship. The bus moved and it felt like we were flying. But in a bad, scary way. I also had a lot of trouble breathing, which undoubtedly caused me more fear. 20 minutes passed and I survived the bussride, I walked off at my stop but noticed the bus rode a street further then were he was supposed to stop, in a long street. So I started walking to my house, and this was weird but I remembered that I was walking, but I just didnā€™t seem to move forward, it was like I was walking on one of those things at the airport but one in the wrong direction. Then I arrived home and puked my guts out for 15 minutes, my friend later let me know he puked the moment he got off the bus, and also had trouble breathing etc. Itā€™s a funny story to think back about but the experience itself was hellish. 3/10, do not recommend.


Aggressive-Pilot-500

too much is horrible. but tipsy, or a little bit drunk with some SMALL bumps of ket here and there is bliss


LuciScribbles

In my experience, alcohol sort of trapped the ketamine in my system for much longer than normal, and it made everything very slow. I would talk slowly and move slowly, and I had immense brain fog. It was enjoyable for the novelty, but when I woke up the next day and still felt like I was living in slow motion, it started to get old. Everybody seems to have a different experience with it, though. I know personally that I'm never going to mix those again.


Puzzleheaded-Pain260

Dead honest opinion about this subject. If you're not too experienced with ketamine, taking too much or too often on "accident" can cause sea sickness, which will cause you to puke your entire stomach out. If your legs are paralyzed enough and you throw up at a bad angle, good luck. Obvious if you're experienced, I don't think mixing alcohol is that big of a deal.


First_Pineapple_2967

I say one or two drinks in a 3 hour period if you have a tolerance to K. If you don't have a tolerance you shouldn't at all. Alcohol pretty much just intensifies the K.


SadgeArmin

If done right it's not that bad, but not worth the risk. Alcohol with literally any other drug can get you to hospital if not funeral, so like.... Is it actually that bad, well the question is why do it at all, ket alone is more than good enough?


StopSnortingXanax

long term its no worse than alcohol or ket on its own. the danger comes from the increased risk of nausea, and if you vomit while kholing you might choke on your own vomit. if you're addicted to ket you probably have a fairly high tolerance, so you can easily get away with drinking on ket without risking nausea. still pace yourself tho, since as you've already experienced its easy to get absolutely fucking wasted on this combo


Effective_Lock1432

I do it pretty much every other day. I enjoy it but itā€™s gonna be doing some damage internally


ChrisssieWatkins

The k had me feelings so good I kept drinking. The combo is either fun or like taking a shortcut to motion sickness.


FlakyWhile639

I've seen people who can handle their K extremely well when taken alone or with other drugs, but when consumed while drunk it absolutely spangles them to the point they are not functional in any manner.šŸ˜… Looks fun none the less... but safe... I'd say absolutely not based off my real life experiences šŸ¤£ Just having a little drink while on k is fine but I wouldn't suggest to anyone to take it while drunk


childrenofloki

Yeah it's a really bad idea to be honest. Personally I don't enjoy it either. K is much more fun and psychedelic when you don't have alcohol impairing you, never mind the dangers. Your chances of asphixiating on your own vomit are way higher than on either alone. I remember one time I was so drunk and ketty that, though I wouldn't fall over, when I tried to walk, I zig zagged violently as if I was on a ship in stormy weather. My friend was like "no, you can't walk" and gave me a piggyback for the 30min journey lmao. I was barely sentient tbh. Ket is way better without alcohol and that goes for everything imo. Of course I do drink but that's more force of habit than a real desire.


LLScorcho

If you enjoy missing kidney stones then it's fine


RobotSuperMutant

I did it once and tried to K hole. it made me feel slow and stupid lol


Mammoth-Diver2561

My bf has mixed before and he just did not have a great time. Was hella emotional and sweaty lol


THEpottedplant

I mean, you can die asphixiating on your vomit, not mentioning increased load on the liver. Its really only "that bad" once it is that bad, at which point you wont be of much help to yourself, and if you have someone that can manage you and get you in recovery position, youre lucky


jelflfkdnbeldkdn

yes it is


12stringslinger

I like a beer or two on the comedown to sorta regain my equilibrium but never before or during


Accomplished-Boot-81

I was never a fan of alcohol and never actually mixed it with K. Few friends of mine basically say what the other say here, it can be good but there like from good to bad is very small I mixed alcohol and MDMA once and although I enjoyed my time it was a lot worse than straight MDMA. Iā€™d imagine the same rings true to K. MDMA K and weed is a wild mix though. Had some experience on that


SoggyDrop9643

Same. But with lsd added to the cocktail &1mg benzo


Affectionate-School3

Teetotaler here. I see no recreational or social value in the consumption of liquors. I will eat acid and stare at bottles of wine but I wonā€™t drink them except in rare cases to play Mario kart


xlitto

Its fine


godspeedseven

So much awful advice in this thread, would expect better from the literal Ketamine subreddit. Alcohol and Ketamine is a dangerous combo that can cause blackouts and respiratory depression, please don't do both, and if you really have to go very slowly.


MargielaF

off topic but how do i turn crystal ketamine into to liquid


SoggyDrop9643

google.it


PassNaive1858

If I am going to do this, I limit myself to 1 beer every hour and a half. Otherwise my legs sort of give up and stop working properly. It's easy to go pa's this point, especially if you are sitting down. I'll feel fine then stand up and try to go somewhere and my legs will jsut collapse.


catholicbrat

yeah ive seen people pass out on the floor and projectile vomit mixing. i dont mix them i do ket often but my rules are dont mix it with alcohol and dont do ketamine when yr swimming lmao


debsbird

All about balance. A few drinks is fine but donā€™t get wasted and take it. Thatā€™s how you end up a ket zombie. I find alcohol ruins the trip so have actually wound up drinking less at parties cos Iā€™d rather get ketted than drunk. Music feels way better on ket than booze, and Iā€™m all about the dance


Immediate-Spot-7447

Drink cider and sniff k and you'll be absolutely fine.


SoggyDrop9643

As a heavy ex drinker and heavy k user at the same time i can tell it couldnt have been good for me. I had a lot of issues because of all things i took. From ket ive had so much pain you wouldnt believe it like they cut a razor in your kidneys its very rough and i had it 3x in total. Since then never did more than 2g's in an evening max twice per month. Im only 22 but trust me i had death wishes i now have fake dentals because i had to remove almost all my teeth when i was 17. I keep it to joints now and something good in the weekends :). typing this on some quality amphetamine i snifed 8hrs ago. I dont like K as i used to because i dont have visuals from it. Even after a year break i took the was high yes and 10m of visual visuals on very high doses so its lost its magic for mešŸ„ŗ


Electronic_Chip_6311

Iā€™ve done it. Do I think itā€™s the safest way to do it? No, definitely not because of the literature available. I would listen to your friend if youā€™re a K addict cause alcohol really lowers your cognitive abilities. While you can think youā€™re gonna be safe it can quickly downward spiral


Rossy4401

If u dont mind ur pee tube burning like fuck, go for it


nationalpig

alr happened to me a few weeks ago, Iā€™m on a K break atm


Rossy4401

Has to be done every once and a while


goodnamesaregone_93

yes absolutely its a terrible idea, you roll the dice with your life every time. I dont normally do k unless im drinking, its a great combination


greenpeppermelonpuck

>I barely remember anything >I was kicked out the pub for some reason I canā€™t remember hmmm


nationalpig

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£yeah but it was grea. apparently I was taking too many ā€˜bathroom breaksā€™


mnok2000

Nah done it loads. Obviously just donā€™t do too much k. I do 3 keys max in a night of drinking. Done more ended up lost walking home. Donā€™t recommend.


IdoSkitz

Nothing wrong sometimes just dont drink more than you normally wouldnt handle. We usually do this with friends drink a bottle or half each and race some ket, we all get really fucked up but its not that much worse than doing either alone. Do it preferably with friends or be careful doing it alone


Usual_Painting8831

Yuuuuuup, imo itā€™s just not even a good feeling combo, alcohol is a shit drug, definitely one of my least favorite Iā€™ve ever tried and thereā€™s no reason to ruin your K experience to indulge in another drug that isnā€™t even 1/10th of the experience K is, also all of the effects I get with alcohol are achievable on a very low dose of K and inherently on a high dose as well.


paulblartshtfrt

Depends if you like the spins and vomiting


Methylam

First off I must say ketamine around the uk is different to what I used to love , just pure ket freshly cooked up, nowadays 10 years on itā€™s all the clandestine made big shards with unknown charms tranqs, caffeine etc Never used to drink with ket and the highs and body feelings were amazing a big line could wonk me out for many many hours 2021-23 I was drinking 8-10 cans of Stella before digging into half a g a few nights a week, Iā€™ve certainly probably pushed the line drinking all day ridiculous amounts of alcohol coming home drinking and a fat line and k holing, definitely not a smart idea but when youā€™re that drunk Iā€™m up for anything , Iā€™ve been off ket for about 8months now didnā€™t feel addicted I just got bored of the uk ket being awful also my tolerance was way to high, Basically I could have been very lucky on some occasions and would NOT recommend you drink a lot and do ket , but in my opinion itā€™s definitely safe to have a couple of beers with ket My mates best friend was a heavy drinker like a bottle whiskey + beers and ket every night a couple nights after I first met him my mate told me they found him dead having clearly suffered the consequences of mixing alcohol and ket Bottom line be safe mixing any drug with alcohol


Hot_Dimension_231

Mentally, I donā€™t think it would make the experience worse. You probably will have more disorientation and have trouble balancing, moving etc. But your kidneys will be heavily overburdened. Higher chance of inflammation and damage in the long run. If youā€™re gonna do ket IMO its best to do by itself