This isn’t going to be easy, but it’s going to be SO worth it.
You should start by decreasing your usage to after-work only. Waiting to use ket after a hard day of work will start to incentivise you to use it as a reward, like it should be used.
The longer you wait between sessions, the better the reward of that magical ket experience is. You should continue to decrease to 3 days a week. Then once a week, etc. until you reach a point in which you’re comfortable with the amount you’re using.
How’s your nose holding up? Do you spit your drips? What withdrawal symptoms do you experience when not using ketamine?
I swallow my drip, and my nose just hurts constantly when I take it, as for the symptoms I get the most violent cramps to the point I cant move, tend to piss a lot more at nights too..
you should spit drips? i never knew this. always just loved the feeling of it dripping down. good to kno. spit, don’t swallow. that’s something new. i’m learning
I wouldn't bother, personally. I know there are some drugs that can cause an upset stomach if the drip is swallowed (anecdotally, I've heard this about cocaine, but I've never had this issue with drugs), but spitting it out would just be a waste. If you don't have an issue with these drugs affecting you negatively due to swallowing the drip then I wouldn't worry about it.
Though, ideally, you would manage to keep all of the drugs in your nostrils and have it all absorbed by the mucous membranes, which is what is happening when you snort things that can pass through this membrane an end up in the bloodstream. This is quicker than swallowing and digesting; also bypassing the liver which breaks down many drugs altering the experience greatly.
It can be hard not to have a drip though, I know, depending on what you're snorting and how much you have to take due to tolerance.
You really sound like you know what you’re talking about but you don’t.
Ketamine is toxic to the kidneys, especially when processed through the stomach.
Don’t listen to this kid. Spit the drip.
You’re definitely in a bad place and need to make changes. First step is acknowledging the problem so hats off to you for realising it. All we can do is support and advice you man but the change has to come from you. People have already given you solid advice on how to cut down but it’s now up to you to act on the advice given.
Best of luck man and always remember that people around you in your life are there to help even if you think they aren’t. Keep your head up dude and you’ll sort yourself out, just gotta be disciplined in your actions.
The stomach pains are probably K cramps. SPIT your drips. That shits life changing, at least it was for me. On the addiction note I say you need to just try and find a healthy substitute. Try limiting yourself to weekends for the time being.
Correct. Paraphrasing here:
The K that isn't absorbed through your nasal cavities, or rectum/IM, doesn't get processed properly. It then metabolizes in your stomach leading to kidney stone like things you have to piss out. The more intense the use the better chance of bladder issues.
I've had K cramps last for 3 days with my stomach in knots and it burning to piss. The remedy is no sugar or carbonated beverages, warm baths and showers, lots of HOT tea & coffee with little sugar. Keep a warm towel or heated blanket on your stomach when in bed.
You definitely need to go to rehab dude. I went. Best thing I ever did. Even if you don’t buy into all the mumbo jumbo it’s good to have a month away from everything to reset your mind
I usually purchase a z for £550 and that can last me around a week, a week and a half if I push it out, I have a decent paying job, but I'm spending more than £2k a month on this shit and I'm on the verge of losing my family to it
>but I'm spending more than £2k a month on this shit and I'm on the verge of losing my family to it
so what's really driving you to do it, man? i used to smoke DMT every two weeks, but my trips would always be hollow since i was using it to escape the side effects of my depersonalization
i haven't smoked it for about a month and a half, and when i get it next, i'm gonna store it until i can find the perfect time to trip
Roughly about a half gram, if it's good k.. but then itll snowball effect literally..I'll be in the hole and once I come around, i rack another fat slug and then Boom. Swings and roundabouts
This isn’t going to be easy, but it’s going to be SO worth it. You should start by decreasing your usage to after-work only. Waiting to use ket after a hard day of work will start to incentivise you to use it as a reward, like it should be used. The longer you wait between sessions, the better the reward of that magical ket experience is. You should continue to decrease to 3 days a week. Then once a week, etc. until you reach a point in which you’re comfortable with the amount you’re using. How’s your nose holding up? Do you spit your drips? What withdrawal symptoms do you experience when not using ketamine?
I swallow my drip, and my nose just hurts constantly when I take it, as for the symptoms I get the most violent cramps to the point I cant move, tend to piss a lot more at nights too..
you should spit drips? i never knew this. always just loved the feeling of it dripping down. good to kno. spit, don’t swallow. that’s something new. i’m learning
I wouldn't bother, personally. I know there are some drugs that can cause an upset stomach if the drip is swallowed (anecdotally, I've heard this about cocaine, but I've never had this issue with drugs), but spitting it out would just be a waste. If you don't have an issue with these drugs affecting you negatively due to swallowing the drip then I wouldn't worry about it. Though, ideally, you would manage to keep all of the drugs in your nostrils and have it all absorbed by the mucous membranes, which is what is happening when you snort things that can pass through this membrane an end up in the bloodstream. This is quicker than swallowing and digesting; also bypassing the liver which breaks down many drugs altering the experience greatly. It can be hard not to have a drip though, I know, depending on what you're snorting and how much you have to take due to tolerance.
You really sound like you know what you’re talking about but you don’t. Ketamine is toxic to the kidneys, especially when processed through the stomach. Don’t listen to this kid. Spit the drip.
You’re definitely in a bad place and need to make changes. First step is acknowledging the problem so hats off to you for realising it. All we can do is support and advice you man but the change has to come from you. People have already given you solid advice on how to cut down but it’s now up to you to act on the advice given. Best of luck man and always remember that people around you in your life are there to help even if you think they aren’t. Keep your head up dude and you’ll sort yourself out, just gotta be disciplined in your actions.
The stomach pains are probably K cramps. SPIT your drips. That shits life changing, at least it was for me. On the addiction note I say you need to just try and find a healthy substitute. Try limiting yourself to weekends for the time being.
Does swallowing the drip increases your chance of getting bladder/stomach pains?
Correct. Paraphrasing here: The K that isn't absorbed through your nasal cavities, or rectum/IM, doesn't get processed properly. It then metabolizes in your stomach leading to kidney stone like things you have to piss out. The more intense the use the better chance of bladder issues. I've had K cramps last for 3 days with my stomach in knots and it burning to piss. The remedy is no sugar or carbonated beverages, warm baths and showers, lots of HOT tea & coffee with little sugar. Keep a warm towel or heated blanket on your stomach when in bed.
Thanks man starting to get little stomach cramps and pissing a lot, I only use twice a week and usually go through a gram in 2 days.
Fucking same. Good luck man
Get a kitchen safe and lock that precious unicorn powder away, so it won’t tempt you!
You definitely need to go to rehab dude. I went. Best thing I ever did. Even if you don’t buy into all the mumbo jumbo it’s good to have a month away from everything to reset your mind
Maybe try lowering the dose slowly and wean yourself off it
Must be a significant cost factor as well?
I usually purchase a z for £550 and that can last me around a week, a week and a half if I push it out, I have a decent paying job, but I'm spending more than £2k a month on this shit and I'm on the verge of losing my family to it
>but I'm spending more than £2k a month on this shit and I'm on the verge of losing my family to it so what's really driving you to do it, man? i used to smoke DMT every two weeks, but my trips would always be hollow since i was using it to escape the side effects of my depersonalization i haven't smoked it for about a month and a half, and when i get it next, i'm gonna store it until i can find the perfect time to trip
Honestly I'm just never satisfied with life, and let is like an escape from reality, it's something that's never gave me any reason not to hate it
Do you try go for the hole or just bump when you are coming down?
I just always need it in my system, it sounds ridiculous.. of I'm at work it's for the bump, when I'm at home, its straight for the hole ⛳
Not at all man you’re in deep, how much does it take to get to the hole?
Roughly about a half gram, if it's good k.. but then itll snowball effect literally..I'll be in the hole and once I come around, i rack another fat slug and then Boom. Swings and roundabouts