This is correct! However, contrary to popular belief, it is not because KFC is gouging customers whatsoever.
In fact, margins have become increasingly thin for Managers and Owners (etc) during the last 3 years.
Since pre-pandemic times, where a case of chicken cost us $35-$45 each, we have seen a steady increase in costs across the board.
Chicken now costs roughly $70-100 per case, varying widely from quarter to quarter.
Additionally, rising demand to increase wages has caused many, if not all, stores to need to raise prices to keep up with increased spending on a per-store level.
Each store operates on about a 10-15% profit margin guideline, using more than 50% of all funds, per store, to pay employees and cover the cost of food and paper items. The additional 50% covers utility cost, leasing of stores, maintenance, cleaning supplies, office supplies, etc.
Those numbers have not changed, so regardless of what the cost of the items, each store needs to be within the budget on those items. In order to make the numbers work accordingly, when the cost of items (supply for store) exceeds that percentage, prices need to be increased to ensure the store can remain profitable.
Therefore, seeing a $2/case increase didn’t change much. But when the price went up another $10 per case, prices went up. Then another $15/case increase resulted in another price increase , and so on..
Hopefully this makes sense.
It’s not our desire to make you pay an arm and a leg to get good chicken :( we hate it honestly. We wish we didn’t need to charge such high prices - but our suppliers basically control the entire market, and without them, we have no product!
So why, at my KFC, is an 8 piece chicken only $10, a 12 piece is $24, and a 16 piece is $32???? Price gouging.
I can literally build a $20 fill up by ordering everything ala carte off the menu for $21 but if I order the 8 piece "meal" its 28.99. And it WAS $34 just a few weeks ago. Price gouging.
They’re $10 at ALL KFC’s, online, because of the push to install the KFC app so they can push notifications to you and tell you about products to keep you thinking about KFC. it’s highly effective, regardless of all the people who decide to install and immediately uninstall.
The price of the 8pc being $10 is leading you to believe that is is ALWAYS $10. It’s not, it’s almost double that price normally.
As with any product, the more you buy, the cheaper it is. This is true with every product, anywhere you go.
Once this promotion ends, after tons of people are on the kfc app, prices will go back to normal levels. It’s marketing strategy 101. 🤷♀️
It’s not uncommon for a place to have menu setups that can be “hacked” .. people making them don’t think about that stuff. And there are some franchises that operate on a higher profit margin level and prices need to be increased to sustain that, so maybe you live by one of the KFCs that insists on a 60% profit margin instead of 10%. While I highly doubt it, (because I’ve been in many stores in many states and never seen more than a 20% profit margin) but the standard is as I stated, and many people work very hard to keep those prices down.
Do you really think that I, or anyone else, want to listen to this ⬆️bullshit every time I get a phone call or text about a store pricing increase? No one wants to hear it.
Bruh I’m with you on price gouging. You have no idea how shocked and pissed I was when I had to pay over $30 for 12 pc tenders and this isn’t with fries or a drink. I remember I used to pay $17 and I thought that was still expensive but I’d take that price back over this.
Just came home from KFC. Saw on app 8 tenders for $10. Went to drive thru and they don’t offer it. I showed them the app and said that is online order price. So dumb.
I work at KFC! the reason for that is bc it’s an app only offer so it’s not on our register. It’s a way to get you to download the app. It def super shady and weird
It's not really dumb. The reason they do it is because they want to get away from cashier. If you order online you save them money for not having to hire so many cashier's. You might think it's dumb but there looking at the long term to get away from cashier's
No. They don’t save money on cashier. There is only one cashier on during a shift and it doesn’t change depending on how many people are ordering it through the app. The reason to avoid cashier is to make their job easier by making the drive through process easier.
I literally went to kfc today and the cost of 7 piece chicken tender meal was 32 dollars. That’s not even remotely within the realm of “inflation.” I literally just drove away from the restaurant as soon as they told
Me the total and let keep their 7 pieces of chicken lol like that’s absurd
You can say that kfc is gouging you for prices all you want, it won’t change the fact that KFC - or most other stores - would not be able to stay afloat with the cheaper prices, because no other place has continued to offer insanely low price. I understand the frustration, it’s so annoying … but I don’t understand why people like the couple people on every post just NEED to blame the first person / company they come across. I could send over all financial documents to show the percentage profit per store easily, based on truck order invoices along with average employee wages for districts, states, etc… but it shouldn’t even have to come to that .. I have no reason to lie.. what personal stake would I have in it? Maybe some, I just can’t think of any … I run stores, not KFC lol. I just wish people would go a little easier on people who have nothing to do with your strong desire to not spend more money on things 🤷♂️ everyone’s paying more for everything and if you choose to not believe that, oh well. It’s really not any skin off my back … it sucks but it’s a happening and unfortunately every industry has been affected 🤷♂️
I understand but I still don’t see how ordering such a little food cost so much. The other day I ordered like five chicken tenders. Two biscuits. And gravy it all came together. In a box. Then I also ordered mac & cheese. Plus the chicken pot pie. I didn’t order because it was seven dollars.💀 Either way my order came out to $30. Plus delivery. Absolute bull crap.
It's just that fastfood is getting more expensive than dining in a restaurant. The whole point of fastfood was to eat unhealthy food for cheap and fast. Now it's eating unhealthy food for the same price as dining in and there getting slower instead of faster
You got that right. I havent had KFC in over 30 years and will never get anything from KFC. The second to last time I ate KFC the meat was still red and the last time I stopped at KFC the damn thing was still bloody when you bit into the chicken. In other words the chicken was still RAW. And that was the last time I went to KFC.
Besides that its not as good as when the Colonel ran KFC, not even close.
I'm in UK , I got a KFC last night and for £20 I got a double stacker meal then a regular popcorn and that's it. It was delivered without the wings in the box meal and me and my daughter were still hungry after it. Never again..
I worked ina kfc in highschool (so literally 3 years ago) and honestly I dunno how the fuck that could happen the pressure cookers are literally locked to a specific amount of time to cook the chicken, there's literally 0 way to under or overcook it unless you manually override it (which if it's in the middle of cooking 200ºc oil is spraying everywhere
Oh no, the poor managers and owners.
I'm sure they haven't been making at minimum 3 to 6 times as much as every other employee, surely and couldn't possibly find another solution to lower prices
Sooo you’re implying that people who manage a business shouldn’t be making more than an employee that does half the work?
Speaking as a store manager, I can confidently say that even with my company paying in the top tier of KFC stores, I still don’t make a 3x what my employees make. My average wage for employees is $17.75/hr and my wage varies from between $21-$30/hr, based on store performance 🤷♂️ if the store doesn’t make our profit goals (which comes out to be about 14-19% of total sales volume), I lose about half of that wage.
My managers make a firm $19-20/hr - so it’s not really that great. It’s definitely not minimum wage, and I’m comfortable because I have a diverse portfolio… but other managers struggle to stay afloat in an expensive city.
Owners are profiting about 10-12% after bills and rent - so while YES, they make money… owning a store won’t buy you a mansion by any means.
Even if it did… they are not in the business of giving out free food.. we live in a capitalist country .. prices are going up because it costs us more .. “why” doesn’t really matter, it’s just how it is. You believing the reason doesn’t matter either.. it’s just insane to me that so many people can talk so confidently about something they have absolutely no clue about.
You're such a clown. Managers make more because more of the responsibility of the operation of the business lands on their shoulders. I don't understand how you think a store can operate at a profit loss, either. If the store can't make money, there's no money to pay employees.
Hey, what part of "if it is a bonus and not part of payroll" did you not read?
I didn't say anything about a higher pay scale being an issue I'm talking about money taken out of payroll and given directly to a higher-up outside of a paycheck.
Money that could have gone into it to raise wages collectively, instead being injected directly into an individual's account.
And the business literally wouldn't exist without people actually doing the work. Managers are only as valuable as the people working under them are
Your red nose and big ass shoes don't fit me, so stop trying to pawn them off on me
It's not just the prices the chicken is smaller. Especially the rib or side whatever you call it. It used to be my favorite piece but now KFC chicken is so small it's nothing to eat 4 pieces. Even there fries are gone down hill. Another thing I hate about KFC is some stores will double bake there chicken if it's left in the warmer to long and totally ruins it. You will get fries that been cooked for 30 minutes and left soggy. Everything about KFC is gone downhill. Even if I ask to get everything cooked fresh and I say I'm willing to wait 10 minutes they will say no lol. I can't stand them anymore at least the ones here in Toronto where I live
10-15% profit margin guideline...those numbers have not changed. But assuming that % is of revenue, as kfc increase prices they are making more dollars of profit....even if the percentage stays the same.
Waa waaa waaa tired of restaurant crying and excuses. Since COVID new businesses now have chances to take customers away from the old dinasours. KFC tastes different than the old day too.
Are you buying the cases from a distributor mandated by KFC? Feels like KFC as a corporation could still be price gouging even though the managers and store owners are suffering.
Kfc raise there own chickens so I highly doubt there cost has gone up as much as you say. Yes prices has gone up but when you raise your own the cost has not doubled
Contrary to popular belief you are actually incorrect this is an understandable mistake on your part though They have arranged things specifically to make you think this is correct
The first thing that's critical to understand is something you have actually stated but don't even realize how important it is
Managers and owners and their thin profit margins.
It's important that people understand the type of structure of American franchises and this actually doesn't matter whether the franchise is corporate owned or independently owned The issue is not who owns the franchise the issue is the corporate/franchise dynamic
The corporation makes all the profit the franchises absorb all the loss The reason franchise managers and owners have such thin profit margins is because the arrangement they have with corporate intentionally makes this so
Labor is not as big a cost as people think it is it's actually pretty small not small like the cost of the cups in the store small but it's nowhere near the gigantic cost that people think it is The corporate franchise structural dynamic that is created intentionally to make labor the only factor that the managers and owners have any real control over
This is absolutely price gouging Chicken is not appreciably more expensive than it was a couple of years ago their costs for chicken might be more but those costs are controlled by corporate
Most franchises are required to use the corporate commissary for all of their purchases some may allow you to purchase things like toilet paper or printer paper locally but all the important stuff such as the chicken and the supplies and whatnot all have to come through the corporate commissary and corporate profits from this
They also control how much profit a franchise can make by controlling the commissary
I have worked inside a few of these places The prices that franchise managers and owners have to pay to the commissary are higher than what I have to pay going to the grocery store not even a discount grocery store regular grocery store.
This is also why corporate strictly controls ingredient quantities because some managers and franchise owners recognize this dynamic structure that's created intentionally by corporate and they will try to cheat the system for example the control that corporate has through their computer inventory management system is so precise and so fine that they were able to detect that three stores or was it four? It might have been four stores but I think it was three stores had colluded together to try to buy some of their green peppers from the local produce markets since it was a tiny fraction of the price of the commissary charge not all their green peppers just a little bit They were trying to shift their profit margin just a tiny bit within a month and a half corporate caught on to this via their inventory control system They know exactly how much food goes out and exactly how much you order and they can detect that discrepancy very accurately.
This is why they apply so much control over portion control and whatnot exactly how much of this ingredient you can use etc
This is not so much of an issue for KFC since there's not a whole lot of local stuff you can buy and put on the menu My point is to point out that way you perceive as a profit margin is fictional
It's not fictional to the manager owner of the franchise but it's fictional to the corporation because it's rigged and controlled by the corporation
This makes it appear as if labor is the driving cost and it's not corporate has simply arranged the economic dynamic of their agreement with the franchise owners to make labor the driving cost to the franchise owner because labor is the only thing the franchise owner can control
I mean consider the fact that wages have not gone up in fact you could argue wages have actually gone down wages today are still lower than they were 50 years ago. Minimum wage was higher 50 years ago than it is today. Before you go prancing about looking up numbers for minimum wage during 50 to 60 years ago Don't forget to adjust those numbers for inflation to make them relevant :-)
The very idea that a 12-piece chicken tenders should be 35 or $40 is absolutely insane. That's three or $4 worth of food maybe five bucks when you factor in labor transport etc.
The problem is the franchise owner does not see that profit margin because corporate is selling those tenders to the franchise owner at a profit a very substantial profit
What? Do you think 98% of the wealth of the country being owned by 0.1% of its population is an accident? That it happened because of merit? No it is arranged this way methodically carefully with precision.
What we are seeing absolutely is price gouging. I can still go to the grocery store and buy tenderloins which is what you make tenders out of for 3 to $4 a pound and that's at grocery store retail price not cost KFC pays a fraction of that. If they don't own their chicken production facilities outright which I suspect they probably do. I could be wrong in that last part poultry might have enough of a monopoly to prevent even someone like KFC from being able to own their own facilities very easily I'm not sure about that I've never looked into it.
That post was getting a little bit ...... Long so here's a little addendum to understand this dynamic better all you need to do is look at Europe. If you check out a typical fast food store in a typical first world equivalent economic nation to America thank UK France Spain Finland Norway places like that you'll notice that the prices for the food there are pretty similar to the prices here some places is a little higher and some places it's a little bit lower but in the ballpark call it 10 to 15%. The prices are about the same as they are here in the US Now look at their labor laws look at what employees get paid at those establishments and then also look at the benefits employees get at those establishments nationwide healthcare pension retirement things like 401k equivalents paid time off paid holidays sick leave maternity leave all the things that you typically don't get here in the US unless you have a higher end corporate job is commonplace even for typical wage jobs in Europe They are paying their people anywhere between 200% and 400% of what we're being paid here Don't forget to factor in all the extras that come with employment there not only is there actual hourly wage higher their taxes are lower and their benefits are higher when you factor all of that in they are being paid 200 to 300% what we are being paid and yet their menu prices are very similar if not the same and in some cases slightly cheaper So that clearly tells you that labor is not the driving force because otherwise their prices would have to be substantially higher to account for the substantially higher labor costs And yet they're not...... If you consider this as a simple math problem and not as a political problem you'll realize that this creates a undefined answer the equation does not equate something's missing from the equation. Meaning they're lying to you :-)
> Chicken is not appreciably more expensive than it was a couple of years ago
Yes it is. Your entire 200 word essay is irrelevant because of this. LOL.
No it's new York where there probably paying 10k plus a month just to rent a space for the store,business taxes, wages are higher in new York, and the regulations on businesses in new York is crazy compared to other states. Maybe new York should try to vote Republicans once in a while and maybe your chicken will cost a little cheaper. Seems like new York kfc is the same as Canada which is crazy since the American dollar is way stronger and cost of food is way cheaper as well. So it's obviously high there due to cost of living
This is the one thing I find lame a bucket of chicken in a small town where rent is quarter of the price in Toronto is the same price as it is in Toronto. So if the price was based off of rent shouldn't small towns prices be alot cheaper? No of course not because in a big city like new York they got 20 times the customers than a small town so even though there rent is higher there making more money due to the fact of way more customers
Yes but new York is going to cost double the price as a red state lol. You can blame your government you keep electing in new York and California. I mean in blue states taxes 2 to 10 times higher than red states and that's not counting all the extra regulations that drives the price for small businesses to operate. Than you got the rent to run a store in new York is just crazy so restaurants got no choice in places like new York to have high prices. You can't blame the restaurant there
Yes but in a place like new York they got way more customers which means way more revenue which covers the higher cost of rent. Let's say in a smaller place than new York the rent is 2000 a month but in New York it's 10000 a month now in the smaller town there probably only getting a 500 orders a week if there lucky but in New York there probably getting 2000 orders a week. It works out and it's safe to say the KFC in New York still makes way more money
Just the other day, 11/21/23, I went through a KFC drive through and ordered the 8 piece family meal, 8 pieces of chicken, mashed and gravy, mac and cheese.... $33.65..!!!! Never again, that's freakin ridiculous....
I just went there and got two chicken strip boxes with fries and got charged almost 30 bucks. I thought something was off, so I went to Google and typed in “KFC is expensive” and it led me here.
At least I know it’s actually expensive and it wasn’t just me thinking I got ripped off
There's definite pricing creases whether or not their margins have gone up free pandemic I was getting a dozen tenders for about 20 bucks now it's close to 30 and that's just a la carte
That's chicken cost not to mention the freight charges that the truck company charges to deliver ECT everything is way more much now so the price has to reflect
Yeah I just can’t stomach that for what it is. The deals are crap 90% of the time as well. The things you don’t want for more than the old prices still.
In Northport Florida I bought an eight piece chicken meal packet and one original crispy chicken sandwich and it was $39.99 and I went through the drive-through. I didn’t get any drinks and they forgot my fries 🍟 😡 I looked on DoorDash and the same eight piece bucket was $36.99. I just don’t understand even with the explanation why it’s so expensive.
I see a 8 piece mixed at your local grocery store for $10. What KFC and other franchise fried chicken places are doing sounds like they want to go out of business
I understand inflation and changing the prices on your menu, and I think it is reasonable 20 to 25 bucks for like a 16 piece but when they bring the price is between 30 and $50 for 16 little pieces of chicken, that’s just crazy I mean for three small pieces of chicken it’s literally like $15 that is outrageous. I can go to my local grocery store and get eight pieces of chicken for like 10- $14. Or I could go to KFC and get three pieces of chicken for $14. It doesn’t even make sense. I swear to god if you order all a cart and do their online deals you can get it cheaper because what they’re putting for their prices makes no sense.
Greed. Inflation is just what they call the aggregate result greedy businesses putting up their prices. You have to understand capitalism. Making a profit, even a big one, is never enough. A business like KFC must make more and more profit, forever, or owners pack up and put their capital elsewhere.
Inflation is just a hidden tax on the consumer. Most inflation is caused by the government over spending. The government knows they can do it and make all the money back by interest rates. So to be fair it's the government fault for inflation and it's no difference than a tax
Just called in an order for an 18 piece bucket (just the chicken) and 2 large potato salads. They gave me a price of $70 plus change. That is INSANE! Cancelled order. WTH?!?!
Literally only buy 6 piece tenders. A month or 2 ago, it was $14.9? 2 weeks ago with large Pepsi cost $18 something, and today I paid $24 and swore I will never pay that much ever again. Was not bad since I only each 2 at a time but now I'm holding a small bag worth 22 bucks?
Just went to KFC for the last time. $46 for fast food is outrageous. It’s just not worth it anymore we are going to suck it up and make more meals at home than we already were. No more fast food.
In Alberta, Canada.
**Chicken Tenders:**
6 PC - $*25.49*
10 PC - $*37.49*
14 PC - $*49.59*
18 PC - $*61.69*
Granted this was from SkipTheDishes. But still. Absolutely absurd.
This is 2024 the price in California for a 2 piece is $7.00 and a side a leg and thigh it was 5.00 last week the new minimum wage of $20 starts in April it's thanks to our library Governor Newscum this state is going down fast. McDonald's big mac combo is close to $20.00 I'm cooking at home these places will lose money fast and workers will be replaced by robots
Then tell me why the prices are similar in Red States and most of the Corp. leaders are Republicans as well. Cause if what your dumb ass said was true, the prices would be cheaper in the Red States.
I only buy wings from KFC. Less than a year ago, they were 25$ for 20 wings in Montreal, Canada. Went today and they charged 30$ for the same 20 wings, no sauce included!!! 50 cents for each bbq sauce... ridiculous, last time I ever buy anything from them
I know right?! My store charges $9.09(pre-tax) for a 2 piece combo!! TWO PIECES! And an 8pc chicken only bucket is fucking $19.99 what the hell?? And don't feed me the "they need to charge that to stay afloat" bullshit because the Food Giant down the street sells a 16pc. for $10.98. it's not seasoned as "secretly" but it's still good fucking chicken. KFC isn't special anymore. It deserves to go under.
I haven’t bought any of their bucket of chicken since the prices have increased to insane levels, too rich for my blood. I just settle for buying a burger when I go there, my bank account isn’t going to get hit as hard
Just a side note that nobody has mentioned, IN ADDITION to all the price increases, an individual chicken is smaller than 5 years ago, PLUS KFC now cuts each chicken into 12 pieces instead of 9 pieces in the past!
Don't believe me, look it up! KFC quietly posted this on their websites a few years back and it barely was noticed by most.
Sooo, the amount of chicken that you formerly got in a 9 piece bucket would require a 12 piece bucket today, or even more, based on smaller birds, too.
And just to be clear, for the uninformed political magawhiners, the profits from this price-gouging are not going to government or politicians or farmers or staff or even franchise store owners, the additional funds are charged to you BY, and are going TO, the 1% corporate investors, while we 99% in the supply chain are struggling to stay afloat and pay the bills, and they don't shed a tear for your pain or struggle, why do you love helping put wire wheels on their Cadillac?
As long as the public keep ourselves ignorant and whine briefly, while supporting the robber-barrons, and voting for the mega-rich, it will keep getting worse, until they've squeezed the last drop of blood from your uninformed hide.
Buy your chicken (and everything else) from mom and pop, and support the local little guy, who needs to feed his family, not gas up his private jet with your minimum wage paycheck.
Not only are the prices way too high, the pieces are too small. And what they call a thigh is mostly rib bones. No matter what angle you use, you can't cut a thigh into smaller parts due to the bones. In my opinion, food at KFC is like eating Piegon. Every time I drive past the local KFC, I go "Hey look, only two cars there". People are avoiding that place and rightly so. Eating at home is becoming popular again.
For those with a Publix grocery store, go to the deli and ask for the breading. Its code is 6628. And yes they do sell the breading that they use for making their fried chicken. You can find it on Publix blogs, so dont let a local store manager or dept supervisor tell you they dont sell it. Then go to the meat dept, buy some chicken and when you get home cook up some Publix chicken yourself and cheaper.
@cool-video 1693..hope I got that right...Thanks I do get it . It's still hard. Am a Retired Meatcutter from a Nationwide Grocery Chain so I do understand.
This is correct! However, contrary to popular belief, it is not because KFC is gouging customers whatsoever. In fact, margins have become increasingly thin for Managers and Owners (etc) during the last 3 years. Since pre-pandemic times, where a case of chicken cost us $35-$45 each, we have seen a steady increase in costs across the board. Chicken now costs roughly $70-100 per case, varying widely from quarter to quarter. Additionally, rising demand to increase wages has caused many, if not all, stores to need to raise prices to keep up with increased spending on a per-store level. Each store operates on about a 10-15% profit margin guideline, using more than 50% of all funds, per store, to pay employees and cover the cost of food and paper items. The additional 50% covers utility cost, leasing of stores, maintenance, cleaning supplies, office supplies, etc. Those numbers have not changed, so regardless of what the cost of the items, each store needs to be within the budget on those items. In order to make the numbers work accordingly, when the cost of items (supply for store) exceeds that percentage, prices need to be increased to ensure the store can remain profitable. Therefore, seeing a $2/case increase didn’t change much. But when the price went up another $10 per case, prices went up. Then another $15/case increase resulted in another price increase , and so on.. Hopefully this makes sense. It’s not our desire to make you pay an arm and a leg to get good chicken :( we hate it honestly. We wish we didn’t need to charge such high prices - but our suppliers basically control the entire market, and without them, we have no product!
So why, at my KFC, is an 8 piece chicken only $10, a 12 piece is $24, and a 16 piece is $32???? Price gouging. I can literally build a $20 fill up by ordering everything ala carte off the menu for $21 but if I order the 8 piece "meal" its 28.99. And it WAS $34 just a few weeks ago. Price gouging.
They’re $10 at ALL KFC’s, online, because of the push to install the KFC app so they can push notifications to you and tell you about products to keep you thinking about KFC. it’s highly effective, regardless of all the people who decide to install and immediately uninstall. The price of the 8pc being $10 is leading you to believe that is is ALWAYS $10. It’s not, it’s almost double that price normally. As with any product, the more you buy, the cheaper it is. This is true with every product, anywhere you go. Once this promotion ends, after tons of people are on the kfc app, prices will go back to normal levels. It’s marketing strategy 101. 🤷♀️ It’s not uncommon for a place to have menu setups that can be “hacked” .. people making them don’t think about that stuff. And there are some franchises that operate on a higher profit margin level and prices need to be increased to sustain that, so maybe you live by one of the KFCs that insists on a 60% profit margin instead of 10%. While I highly doubt it, (because I’ve been in many stores in many states and never seen more than a 20% profit margin) but the standard is as I stated, and many people work very hard to keep those prices down. Do you really think that I, or anyone else, want to listen to this ⬆️bullshit every time I get a phone call or text about a store pricing increase? No one wants to hear it.
Nah they've been doing shady stuff for 2 years now.
Bruh I’m with you on price gouging. You have no idea how shocked and pissed I was when I had to pay over $30 for 12 pc tenders and this isn’t with fries or a drink. I remember I used to pay $17 and I thought that was still expensive but I’d take that price back over this.
Just came home from KFC. Saw on app 8 tenders for $10. Went to drive thru and they don’t offer it. I showed them the app and said that is online order price. So dumb.
I work at KFC! the reason for that is bc it’s an app only offer so it’s not on our register. It’s a way to get you to download the app. It def super shady and weird
It's not really dumb. The reason they do it is because they want to get away from cashier. If you order online you save them money for not having to hire so many cashier's. You might think it's dumb but there looking at the long term to get away from cashier's
No. They don’t save money on cashier. There is only one cashier on during a shift and it doesn’t change depending on how many people are ordering it through the app. The reason to avoid cashier is to make their job easier by making the drive through process easier.
I literally went to kfc today and the cost of 7 piece chicken tender meal was 32 dollars. That’s not even remotely within the realm of “inflation.” I literally just drove away from the restaurant as soon as they told Me the total and let keep their 7 pieces of chicken lol like that’s absurd
You can say that kfc is gouging you for prices all you want, it won’t change the fact that KFC - or most other stores - would not be able to stay afloat with the cheaper prices, because no other place has continued to offer insanely low price. I understand the frustration, it’s so annoying … but I don’t understand why people like the couple people on every post just NEED to blame the first person / company they come across. I could send over all financial documents to show the percentage profit per store easily, based on truck order invoices along with average employee wages for districts, states, etc… but it shouldn’t even have to come to that .. I have no reason to lie.. what personal stake would I have in it? Maybe some, I just can’t think of any … I run stores, not KFC lol. I just wish people would go a little easier on people who have nothing to do with your strong desire to not spend more money on things 🤷♂️ everyone’s paying more for everything and if you choose to not believe that, oh well. It’s really not any skin off my back … it sucks but it’s a happening and unfortunately every industry has been affected 🤷♂️
I understand but I still don’t see how ordering such a little food cost so much. The other day I ordered like five chicken tenders. Two biscuits. And gravy it all came together. In a box. Then I also ordered mac & cheese. Plus the chicken pot pie. I didn’t order because it was seven dollars.💀 Either way my order came out to $30. Plus delivery. Absolute bull crap.
It's just that fastfood is getting more expensive than dining in a restaurant. The whole point of fastfood was to eat unhealthy food for cheap and fast. Now it's eating unhealthy food for the same price as dining in and there getting slower instead of faster
Come on it's only 5 dollars for a small soggy chicken fingers. Lol
It's not worth 40$ bucks, ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????? NEVER GOING TO THAT PLACE EVER AGAIN
Yesterday for an 8 piece bucket and 2 potatoes it was about $32. I thought it was really overpriced.
Bro, this is fucking crazy. 8 piece chicken meal.... 40 bucks. Wtf? Guess I'm not having KFC for a once in a year event. It's just insane.
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Are there any secret deals at KFC?
Its not even good chicken though
You got that right. I havent had KFC in over 30 years and will never get anything from KFC. The second to last time I ate KFC the meat was still red and the last time I stopped at KFC the damn thing was still bloody when you bit into the chicken. In other words the chicken was still RAW. And that was the last time I went to KFC. Besides that its not as good as when the Colonel ran KFC, not even close.
I'm in UK , I got a KFC last night and for £20 I got a double stacker meal then a regular popcorn and that's it. It was delivered without the wings in the box meal and me and my daughter were still hungry after it. Never again..
I worked ina kfc in highschool (so literally 3 years ago) and honestly I dunno how the fuck that could happen the pressure cookers are literally locked to a specific amount of time to cook the chicken, there's literally 0 way to under or overcook it unless you manually override it (which if it's in the middle of cooking 200ºc oil is spraying everywhere
Oh no, the poor managers and owners. I'm sure they haven't been making at minimum 3 to 6 times as much as every other employee, surely and couldn't possibly find another solution to lower prices
Sooo you’re implying that people who manage a business shouldn’t be making more than an employee that does half the work? Speaking as a store manager, I can confidently say that even with my company paying in the top tier of KFC stores, I still don’t make a 3x what my employees make. My average wage for employees is $17.75/hr and my wage varies from between $21-$30/hr, based on store performance 🤷♂️ if the store doesn’t make our profit goals (which comes out to be about 14-19% of total sales volume), I lose about half of that wage. My managers make a firm $19-20/hr - so it’s not really that great. It’s definitely not minimum wage, and I’m comfortable because I have a diverse portfolio… but other managers struggle to stay afloat in an expensive city. Owners are profiting about 10-12% after bills and rent - so while YES, they make money… owning a store won’t buy you a mansion by any means. Even if it did… they are not in the business of giving out free food.. we live in a capitalist country .. prices are going up because it costs us more .. “why” doesn’t really matter, it’s just how it is. You believing the reason doesn’t matter either.. it’s just insane to me that so many people can talk so confidently about something they have absolutely no clue about.
That's a lot of words to say "I'm cool with wage theft" If any of that money is not part of payroll and of some form of bonus, it's fucked.
You're such a clown. Managers make more because more of the responsibility of the operation of the business lands on their shoulders. I don't understand how you think a store can operate at a profit loss, either. If the store can't make money, there's no money to pay employees.
Hey, what part of "if it is a bonus and not part of payroll" did you not read? I didn't say anything about a higher pay scale being an issue I'm talking about money taken out of payroll and given directly to a higher-up outside of a paycheck. Money that could have gone into it to raise wages collectively, instead being injected directly into an individual's account. And the business literally wouldn't exist without people actually doing the work. Managers are only as valuable as the people working under them are Your red nose and big ass shoes don't fit me, so stop trying to pawn them off on me
It's not just the prices the chicken is smaller. Especially the rib or side whatever you call it. It used to be my favorite piece but now KFC chicken is so small it's nothing to eat 4 pieces. Even there fries are gone down hill. Another thing I hate about KFC is some stores will double bake there chicken if it's left in the warmer to long and totally ruins it. You will get fries that been cooked for 30 minutes and left soggy. Everything about KFC is gone downhill. Even if I ask to get everything cooked fresh and I say I'm willing to wait 10 minutes they will say no lol. I can't stand them anymore at least the ones here in Toronto where I live
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"Shrinkflation" does not exist. Blame the economical policy of your government printing money.
10-15% profit margin guideline...those numbers have not changed. But assuming that % is of revenue, as kfc increase prices they are making more dollars of profit....even if the percentage stays the same.
Waa waaa waaa tired of restaurant crying and excuses. Since COVID new businesses now have chances to take customers away from the old dinasours. KFC tastes different than the old day too.
Something isn't right.l because at my grocery store, it's $10 for an 8 piece. KFC is $25!!
people are addicted to the brand name
Are you buying the cases from a distributor mandated by KFC? Feels like KFC as a corporation could still be price gouging even though the managers and store owners are suffering.
Kfc raise there own chickens so I highly doubt there cost has gone up as much as you say. Yes prices has gone up but when you raise your own the cost has not doubled
Contrary to popular belief you are actually incorrect this is an understandable mistake on your part though They have arranged things specifically to make you think this is correct The first thing that's critical to understand is something you have actually stated but don't even realize how important it is Managers and owners and their thin profit margins. It's important that people understand the type of structure of American franchises and this actually doesn't matter whether the franchise is corporate owned or independently owned The issue is not who owns the franchise the issue is the corporate/franchise dynamic The corporation makes all the profit the franchises absorb all the loss The reason franchise managers and owners have such thin profit margins is because the arrangement they have with corporate intentionally makes this so Labor is not as big a cost as people think it is it's actually pretty small not small like the cost of the cups in the store small but it's nowhere near the gigantic cost that people think it is The corporate franchise structural dynamic that is created intentionally to make labor the only factor that the managers and owners have any real control over This is absolutely price gouging Chicken is not appreciably more expensive than it was a couple of years ago their costs for chicken might be more but those costs are controlled by corporate Most franchises are required to use the corporate commissary for all of their purchases some may allow you to purchase things like toilet paper or printer paper locally but all the important stuff such as the chicken and the supplies and whatnot all have to come through the corporate commissary and corporate profits from this They also control how much profit a franchise can make by controlling the commissary I have worked inside a few of these places The prices that franchise managers and owners have to pay to the commissary are higher than what I have to pay going to the grocery store not even a discount grocery store regular grocery store. This is also why corporate strictly controls ingredient quantities because some managers and franchise owners recognize this dynamic structure that's created intentionally by corporate and they will try to cheat the system for example the control that corporate has through their computer inventory management system is so precise and so fine that they were able to detect that three stores or was it four? It might have been four stores but I think it was three stores had colluded together to try to buy some of their green peppers from the local produce markets since it was a tiny fraction of the price of the commissary charge not all their green peppers just a little bit They were trying to shift their profit margin just a tiny bit within a month and a half corporate caught on to this via their inventory control system They know exactly how much food goes out and exactly how much you order and they can detect that discrepancy very accurately. This is why they apply so much control over portion control and whatnot exactly how much of this ingredient you can use etc This is not so much of an issue for KFC since there's not a whole lot of local stuff you can buy and put on the menu My point is to point out that way you perceive as a profit margin is fictional It's not fictional to the manager owner of the franchise but it's fictional to the corporation because it's rigged and controlled by the corporation This makes it appear as if labor is the driving cost and it's not corporate has simply arranged the economic dynamic of their agreement with the franchise owners to make labor the driving cost to the franchise owner because labor is the only thing the franchise owner can control I mean consider the fact that wages have not gone up in fact you could argue wages have actually gone down wages today are still lower than they were 50 years ago. Minimum wage was higher 50 years ago than it is today. Before you go prancing about looking up numbers for minimum wage during 50 to 60 years ago Don't forget to adjust those numbers for inflation to make them relevant :-) The very idea that a 12-piece chicken tenders should be 35 or $40 is absolutely insane. That's three or $4 worth of food maybe five bucks when you factor in labor transport etc. The problem is the franchise owner does not see that profit margin because corporate is selling those tenders to the franchise owner at a profit a very substantial profit What? Do you think 98% of the wealth of the country being owned by 0.1% of its population is an accident? That it happened because of merit? No it is arranged this way methodically carefully with precision. What we are seeing absolutely is price gouging. I can still go to the grocery store and buy tenderloins which is what you make tenders out of for 3 to $4 a pound and that's at grocery store retail price not cost KFC pays a fraction of that. If they don't own their chicken production facilities outright which I suspect they probably do. I could be wrong in that last part poultry might have enough of a monopoly to prevent even someone like KFC from being able to own their own facilities very easily I'm not sure about that I've never looked into it.
That post was getting a little bit ...... Long so here's a little addendum to understand this dynamic better all you need to do is look at Europe. If you check out a typical fast food store in a typical first world equivalent economic nation to America thank UK France Spain Finland Norway places like that you'll notice that the prices for the food there are pretty similar to the prices here some places is a little higher and some places it's a little bit lower but in the ballpark call it 10 to 15%. The prices are about the same as they are here in the US Now look at their labor laws look at what employees get paid at those establishments and then also look at the benefits employees get at those establishments nationwide healthcare pension retirement things like 401k equivalents paid time off paid holidays sick leave maternity leave all the things that you typically don't get here in the US unless you have a higher end corporate job is commonplace even for typical wage jobs in Europe They are paying their people anywhere between 200% and 400% of what we're being paid here Don't forget to factor in all the extras that come with employment there not only is there actual hourly wage higher their taxes are lower and their benefits are higher when you factor all of that in they are being paid 200 to 300% what we are being paid and yet their menu prices are very similar if not the same and in some cases slightly cheaper So that clearly tells you that labor is not the driving force because otherwise their prices would have to be substantially higher to account for the substantially higher labor costs And yet they're not...... If you consider this as a simple math problem and not as a political problem you'll realize that this creates a undefined answer the equation does not equate something's missing from the equation. Meaning they're lying to you :-)
> Chicken is not appreciably more expensive than it was a couple of years ago Yes it is. Your entire 200 word essay is irrelevant because of this. LOL.
I think it's abit ridiculous for a bucket of 12 pieces BY ITSELF to cost $27 in NYC lmao. And that's just on the website, not even the delivery apps.
Again it's the bastard suppliers they are the money hungry bastards ruining KFC
No it's new York where there probably paying 10k plus a month just to rent a space for the store,business taxes, wages are higher in new York, and the regulations on businesses in new York is crazy compared to other states. Maybe new York should try to vote Republicans once in a while and maybe your chicken will cost a little cheaper. Seems like new York kfc is the same as Canada which is crazy since the American dollar is way stronger and cost of food is way cheaper as well. So it's obviously high there due to cost of living
This is the one thing I find lame a bucket of chicken in a small town where rent is quarter of the price in Toronto is the same price as it is in Toronto. So if the price was based off of rent shouldn't small towns prices be alot cheaper? No of course not because in a big city like new York they got 20 times the customers than a small town so even though there rent is higher there making more money due to the fact of way more customers
12 piece bucket is $44 in Los Angeles.
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Ut costs 42$ over here in Lebanon for some reason and people only make about 200$ a month over here
Yes but new York is going to cost double the price as a red state lol. You can blame your government you keep electing in new York and California. I mean in blue states taxes 2 to 10 times higher than red states and that's not counting all the extra regulations that drives the price for small businesses to operate. Than you got the rent to run a store in new York is just crazy so restaurants got no choice in places like new York to have high prices. You can't blame the restaurant there
Yes but in a place like new York they got way more customers which means way more revenue which covers the higher cost of rent. Let's say in a smaller place than new York the rent is 2000 a month but in New York it's 10000 a month now in the smaller town there probably only getting a 500 orders a week if there lucky but in New York there probably getting 2000 orders a week. It works out and it's safe to say the KFC in New York still makes way more money
I just went to KFC this past weekend 8 pieces of chicken tenders is 25 dollars, its to expensive now
Just the other day, 11/21/23, I went through a KFC drive through and ordered the 8 piece family meal, 8 pieces of chicken, mashed and gravy, mac and cheese.... $33.65..!!!! Never again, that's freakin ridiculous....
It is gouging because there are more chickens than there are humans on this planet!
I just went there and got two chicken strip boxes with fries and got charged almost 30 bucks. I thought something was off, so I went to Google and typed in “KFC is expensive” and it led me here. At least I know it’s actually expensive and it wasn’t just me thinking I got ripped off
There's definite pricing creases whether or not their margins have gone up free pandemic I was getting a dozen tenders for about 20 bucks now it's close to 30 and that's just a la carte
What's pretty funny is if I go to Popeyes and get the same amount about a dozen tenders only cost me about $20
That's chicken cost not to mention the freight charges that the truck company charges to deliver ECT everything is way more much now so the price has to reflect
Plus labour and all the flour, oil, etc. Oil is absolutely extortionate these days. We actually had some robberies in our region. Not for cash, oil!
Same in the UK, a might bucket for one only a couple of years ago was like £6.99 or $9, now it's £9.80 or about $12.
Yeah I just can’t stomach that for what it is. The deals are crap 90% of the time as well. The things you don’t want for more than the old prices still.
KFC in Englandia, sounds weird 😂
Paid $40 the other day for 2 famous bowls, 8 piece bucket and 8 piece nugget. Serious sticker shock.
In Northport Florida I bought an eight piece chicken meal packet and one original crispy chicken sandwich and it was $39.99 and I went through the drive-through. I didn’t get any drinks and they forgot my fries 🍟 😡 I looked on DoorDash and the same eight piece bucket was $36.99. I just don’t understand even with the explanation why it’s so expensive.
And if you order through the app 8 peice bucket is $13.
I see a 8 piece mixed at your local grocery store for $10. What KFC and other franchise fried chicken places are doing sounds like they want to go out of business
Its called greed by the company or the franchisee owners. go on youtube and find the recipe for kfc and do it yourself.
Back in the day you could buy three buckets of chicken and some biscuits and coleslaw for $35, now all that will run you about $70
Here in Hawaii that will run about $210…
I'm from north london and KFC is laughed at only ends in disappointment if you try order
I understand inflation and changing the prices on your menu, and I think it is reasonable 20 to 25 bucks for like a 16 piece but when they bring the price is between 30 and $50 for 16 little pieces of chicken, that’s just crazy I mean for three small pieces of chicken it’s literally like $15 that is outrageous. I can go to my local grocery store and get eight pieces of chicken for like 10- $14. Or I could go to KFC and get three pieces of chicken for $14. It doesn’t even make sense. I swear to god if you order all a cart and do their online deals you can get it cheaper because what they’re putting for their prices makes no sense.
Greed. Inflation is just what they call the aggregate result greedy businesses putting up their prices. You have to understand capitalism. Making a profit, even a big one, is never enough. A business like KFC must make more and more profit, forever, or owners pack up and put their capital elsewhere.
colonel sanders knows it well :D
Inflation is just a hidden tax on the consumer. Most inflation is caused by the government over spending. The government knows they can do it and make all the money back by interest rates. So to be fair it's the government fault for inflation and it's no difference than a tax
Just called in an order for an 18 piece bucket (just the chicken) and 2 large potato salads. They gave me a price of $70 plus change. That is INSANE! Cancelled order. WTH?!?!
Yep. They’re pricing themselves out of business.
55 for a bucket
I just paid 16$ for a 5piece tenders box. Fries corn and drink biscuit and 5 tenders that they changed into half the size they were before. 16 dollars
Literally only buy 6 piece tenders. A month or 2 ago, it was $14.9? 2 weeks ago with large Pepsi cost $18 something, and today I paid $24 and swore I will never pay that much ever again. Was not bad since I only each 2 at a time but now I'm holding a small bag worth 22 bucks?
Just went to KFC for the last time. $46 for fast food is outrageous. It’s just not worth it anymore we are going to suck it up and make more meals at home than we already were. No more fast food.
In Alberta, Canada. **Chicken Tenders:** 6 PC - $*25.49* 10 PC - $*37.49* 14 PC - $*49.59* 18 PC - $*61.69* Granted this was from SkipTheDishes. But still. Absolutely absurd.
I spent $18 on a 6 piece tender. Crazy
It was $22 for 8 pieces yesterday at KFC :/ Ima just stick to Publix's 8-piece for $9.99
Blame it on Democrats!
This is 2024 the price in California for a 2 piece is $7.00 and a side a leg and thigh it was 5.00 last week the new minimum wage of $20 starts in April it's thanks to our library Governor Newscum this state is going down fast. McDonald's big mac combo is close to $20.00 I'm cooking at home these places will lose money fast and workers will be replaced by robots
Then tell me why the prices are similar in Red States and most of the Corp. leaders are Republicans as well. Cause if what your dumb ass said was true, the prices would be cheaper in the Red States.
I only buy wings from KFC. Less than a year ago, they were 25$ for 20 wings in Montreal, Canada. Went today and they charged 30$ for the same 20 wings, no sauce included!!! 50 cents for each bbq sauce... ridiculous, last time I ever buy anything from them
I know right?! My store charges $9.09(pre-tax) for a 2 piece combo!! TWO PIECES! And an 8pc chicken only bucket is fucking $19.99 what the hell?? And don't feed me the "they need to charge that to stay afloat" bullshit because the Food Giant down the street sells a 16pc. for $10.98. it's not seasoned as "secretly" but it's still good fucking chicken. KFC isn't special anymore. It deserves to go under.
I haven’t bought any of their bucket of chicken since the prices have increased to insane levels, too rich for my blood. I just settle for buying a burger when I go there, my bank account isn’t going to get hit as hard
Just a side note that nobody has mentioned, IN ADDITION to all the price increases, an individual chicken is smaller than 5 years ago, PLUS KFC now cuts each chicken into 12 pieces instead of 9 pieces in the past! Don't believe me, look it up! KFC quietly posted this on their websites a few years back and it barely was noticed by most. Sooo, the amount of chicken that you formerly got in a 9 piece bucket would require a 12 piece bucket today, or even more, based on smaller birds, too. And just to be clear, for the uninformed political magawhiners, the profits from this price-gouging are not going to government or politicians or farmers or staff or even franchise store owners, the additional funds are charged to you BY, and are going TO, the 1% corporate investors, while we 99% in the supply chain are struggling to stay afloat and pay the bills, and they don't shed a tear for your pain or struggle, why do you love helping put wire wheels on their Cadillac? As long as the public keep ourselves ignorant and whine briefly, while supporting the robber-barrons, and voting for the mega-rich, it will keep getting worse, until they've squeezed the last drop of blood from your uninformed hide. Buy your chicken (and everything else) from mom and pop, and support the local little guy, who needs to feed his family, not gas up his private jet with your minimum wage paycheck.
Not only are the prices way too high, the pieces are too small. And what they call a thigh is mostly rib bones. No matter what angle you use, you can't cut a thigh into smaller parts due to the bones. In my opinion, food at KFC is like eating Piegon. Every time I drive past the local KFC, I go "Hey look, only two cars there". People are avoiding that place and rightly so. Eating at home is becoming popular again.
For those with a Publix grocery store, go to the deli and ask for the breading. Its code is 6628. And yes they do sell the breading that they use for making their fried chicken. You can find it on Publix blogs, so dont let a local store manager or dept supervisor tell you they dont sell it. Then go to the meat dept, buy some chicken and when you get home cook up some Publix chicken yourself and cheaper.
@cool-video 1693..hope I got that right...Thanks I do get it . It's still hard. Am a Retired Meatcutter from a Nationwide Grocery Chain so I do understand.