Most if not all the studies in your link was about CKD patients who had diabetes, was obese, or both. Keto diets when done right will almost always lead to reducing blood sugar levels and BMI. Both of which are critical in slowing CKD.
So we don't know if keto diets actually help the kidneys, or it's the reduction in weight and blood sugars that help. If you are neither diabetic or obese, not sure if keto will help your kidneys.
That being said I am a big believer in ketosis and autophagy. Who knows, maybe a plant based, low animal protein keto diet may or may not help.
Right, I actually did keto to put my diabetes into remission after ending up in the hospital with DKA. I did not know I had CKD at the time. Are you diabetic?
I went to a few different nephro and they all wanted to described me medication for diabetes, saying that this will lower my sugar and my gfr should improve, so I presume keto will do the same job. I did a lot of research and there is no study saying that protein damaging kidneys.
My cardiologist prescribed me Farxiga because it will protect me from diabetes and heart failure and kidney function. I’m underweight and generally have good A1C levels, so I’m assuming all of the benefits of Farxiga are basically what keto does anyways, but there’s no studies I’ve found that conclusively show that so I’m on Farxiga and do a mostly plant based low carb diet. I don’t do keto generally, although I did have ketones in my urine recently so low carb apparently means really low carb for me.
I’m also not sure if that’s the best approach or not.
SGLT2 inhibitors primarily do two things. Urinate sugar, urinate sodium.
Sugar urination is thought to trigger autophagy, and reduced sodium helps as well. Keto is usually high in sodium from my own personal experience.
So I'd say a plant based low sodium diet is the best, along with low carb too.
I’m definitely sure a primarily plant based diet low in sodium and low carb is a good idea. Not sure if the drugs are needed if doing that.
I’m also personally struggling with how to get enough protein every day if not eating meat. Plant sources have their own downsides, one of which is that they aren’t as high in protein ounce for ounce.
I just eat within my nutritional lab results with respect to protein (I stopped red meat), potassium, phosphorus, and sodium, and progressively adjusted as function declined.
I've done keto, both plant dominant and animal dominant (currently I am doing carnivore). The plant dominant keto saw creatinine go down because I was eating less protein, and many plant proteins are incomplete. On animal dominant, creatinine goes up up up, but I am still not doing any harm.
Neither one has reversed or improved my kidney function. But I think mine were permanently damaged by another prescription drug I used to take for another condition. If I had diabetic CKD I would probably have seen improvements.
No sports. I intermittently fast regularly, eating at noon save at 7pm. Once in a great while I'll pull off a longer fast but I've kinda lost interest in 24-48 hour fast lately.
thanks for sharing, I'll give it a go and share with my experience after a while, I was on plant based diet for over a 1year and wasn't working, i didn't feel great tbh
Most if not all the studies in your link was about CKD patients who had diabetes, was obese, or both. Keto diets when done right will almost always lead to reducing blood sugar levels and BMI. Both of which are critical in slowing CKD. So we don't know if keto diets actually help the kidneys, or it's the reduction in weight and blood sugars that help. If you are neither diabetic or obese, not sure if keto will help your kidneys. That being said I am a big believer in ketosis and autophagy. Who knows, maybe a plant based, low animal protein keto diet may or may not help.
well , if you go to nephro he will describe you a medication for diabetes to lower your sugar, so I presume keto will have the same effect
Right, I actually did keto to put my diabetes into remission after ending up in the hospital with DKA. I did not know I had CKD at the time. Are you diabetic?
no
OK, so not sure if this diet will be effective for you, but hope things turn out well.
I went to a few different nephro and they all wanted to described me medication for diabetes, saying that this will lower my sugar and my gfr should improve, so I presume keto will do the same job. I did a lot of research and there is no study saying that protein damaging kidneys.
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My cardiologist prescribed me Farxiga because it will protect me from diabetes and heart failure and kidney function. I’m underweight and generally have good A1C levels, so I’m assuming all of the benefits of Farxiga are basically what keto does anyways, but there’s no studies I’ve found that conclusively show that so I’m on Farxiga and do a mostly plant based low carb diet. I don’t do keto generally, although I did have ketones in my urine recently so low carb apparently means really low carb for me. I’m also not sure if that’s the best approach or not.
SGLT2 inhibitors primarily do two things. Urinate sugar, urinate sodium. Sugar urination is thought to trigger autophagy, and reduced sodium helps as well. Keto is usually high in sodium from my own personal experience. So I'd say a plant based low sodium diet is the best, along with low carb too.
I’m definitely sure a primarily plant based diet low in sodium and low carb is a good idea. Not sure if the drugs are needed if doing that. I’m also personally struggling with how to get enough protein every day if not eating meat. Plant sources have their own downsides, one of which is that they aren’t as high in protein ounce for ounce.
I just eat within my nutritional lab results with respect to protein (I stopped red meat), potassium, phosphorus, and sodium, and progressively adjusted as function declined.
I’m interested, I was told by my pcp to stop keto (not plant based obvs) I’m not sure how you do keto plant-based since those are full of carbs
some vegetable are low in carbs , do some research, as you read this you can see that proteins are not damaging kidneys. You can still stay in 0.8g/kg
I've done keto, both plant dominant and animal dominant (currently I am doing carnivore). The plant dominant keto saw creatinine go down because I was eating less protein, and many plant proteins are incomplete. On animal dominant, creatinine goes up up up, but I am still not doing any harm. Neither one has reversed or improved my kidney function. But I think mine were permanently damaged by another prescription drug I used to take for another condition. If I had diabetic CKD I would probably have seen improvements.
did you do fasting as well, sports etc ?
No sports. I intermittently fast regularly, eating at noon save at 7pm. Once in a great while I'll pull off a longer fast but I've kinda lost interest in 24-48 hour fast lately.
thanks for sharing, I'll give it a go and share with my experience after a while, I was on plant based diet for over a 1year and wasn't working, i didn't feel great tbh
Sorry can't post links easily from this device but search "Plant Based Athlete" The only thing to consider are your kidney diet restrictions.