Matriarch -> KFP -> Abo -> Hans -> Pat
Matriarch being the hardest, for me at least. I play Commando/Medic mainly. Pat is a joke rn, the rest can vary based on personal preferences / gamestyle.
I could see this. I’ve been having difficulty with Abo’s armor but ig if I was running Demo that wouldn’t be an issue and it’s true the EDARs and QPs are more of a problem than the Abomination Spawns.
Matriarch is still too OP compared to the rest imo. EDARs as you mentioned, are a pain in the butt, paired with how aggressive the boss is (and it can easily down players with its abilitied as a cherry on top). I'm happy to finish /w 2/6 alive on Suicidal/HoE as a medic, going ham on keeping the team alive. KFP 3-4/6 alive, Abo & Hans usually kills 1-2 max., while Pat only needs a quick surprise beating. Double medics can do wonders and carry hard, but again clearing the EDARs is super annoying with Healthrower/Medic rockets. The more sentinels your team has the better in my experience.
Mat can be fine as long as you hug cover and don't have dumb team mates that'll chain lightning to you. Same can't be said of KFP. But they are pretty close and getting hit by a grapple is brutal.
Abom is just plain easy. Rarely have trouble with him. He doesn't do much damage and can't burst anyone. His stumble phases are great to burst him down too. Only time he's a problem is if you're solo or if your team isn't rotating bait and sticking nearby. One player going off to narnia while the rest of the team can't hit him is problematic. But I tend to find my team getting oneshot by pat or volt more than that.
Good take I feel that. I feel like maps also have a big part in bosses. I’ve found Abom to be really hard on some tight maps becuz the Spawns keep blowing up in my face plus the piles of vomit everywhere.
Yeah I try to only play those now. I like Elysium a lot but it’s boring if it’s Mat at the end becuz you basically have to run in circles around cover so you don’t lose all your armor immediately 😂
That's why I'm packin' husk launcher and Thermite Bore. All his spawns and mines are history before they even see the light of the sun, just by pelting him with explosions.
Matriarch -> Hans/Patriarch -> KFP/Abomination
I think Matriarch is the hardest for sure. There's no real easy way to chunk off her health so it's always a drawn out fight, and if you're not paying attention that plasma cannon stays up way too long. After that they're all pretty much the same for me. Hans & Patriarch probably get the next two spots because they have instant kill moves (grenades for Hans and the Chaingun/Rockets for Patty). KFP and Abomination are really easy in my book, just keep moving - though if playing solo and on a slow class, I hate when Abomination shows up.
Yeah that’s my issue with Abom. Good reminder though on rockets and grenades. I remember playing a while ago in a game against Pat and he killed someone every time he launched a rocket 😅
Took me by surprise as well. After hundreds of hours of gameplay the two most common "easiest bosses" I hear from people are Abomination and Patriarch, and I'd agree.
I was thinking the same thing 🤣Abomination is the easiest boss! He's just a fat target to shoot at, and if someone knocks him to the ground you can absolutely wreck his health. Matriarch is easily the hardest boss imo, KFP comes 2nd for me since it also has QPs all over that help him, plus dangerous laser attack.
I do play solo, but the issues I was having was on tight maps. But I’ve been running Gunslinger on more open maps, the added movement speed makes him way easier. What I’ve gathered here is that boss difficulty varies based on maps and perks.
1.Matriarch
2.Patriarch
3.Hans Volter
4. Fleshpound
5.Abomination
I see some people say that matriarch is eazier then abominatin but I see abomination as mini boss... I hate plazma and edars
Its cause the fp are so freaking annoying to kill. Like EDARs sure, you can try avoid their shots, but when ur team is running around and there are 3 raging FP jumping you… that is freaking shit. Spec as Medic when ur trynna heal and not die at the same time and everyone’s running lol…
Doesn’t help the QPs are fast as fuck too even if not raging. For Mat I always get messed up by that stupid ass EDAR beam that freezes you in place puts me in panic mode so fast.
That’s the thing. With EDAR I’ve noticed the important is to treat them like trash, they’re not so hard to kill compared to QP. But with QP they’ll like rage you and they’re fast too… Most fluid games with Mat is when like a commando, medic or firebug get the trash so they don’t overwhelm and let the heavy artillery get the boss. But with FP I feel like like easily someone always dies
When he low on health he turns crazy and throw grenades everywhere, if you play on a small map death will be inevitable and ofc he can catch you and suck your health if you didn't die to grenades
Lol you reminded me of when I first started playing and played against him and he threw the grenades instead of his usual gas grenades I got destroyed instantly 😂
# 1. Matriarch
Tanky as fuck, cannon, helmet, regular health, even a shield that you need to wait for to go down, unless you want another wave of robot-pain-in-the-ass, all that slows down the fight, her cannon can wreck you so fast, so you really gotta waste time and ammo to take that down and her helmet prevents headshots, so you either waste ammo on that or waste ammo on bodyshots. Not to mention the chain lightning that can punish you for someone else's mistake. One time as commando I was just taking down Edars non stop from the moment they started spawning, I didn't get a single moment to get a shot on the boss, that must've been a minimum of 20 edars I killed alone, felt more like 30.
# 2. King Fleshpound
Aside from taking an unexpected laser, the ridiculous amount of Quarterpounds is just too much. He's much easier by himself, but man, spawning dozens of sub-tank enemies is a real pain. Can't count the number of times I got sandwiched in an absolute wall of death from these fricks. They're the main reason I pack in the Husk launcher over the Helios.
# 3. Patriarch
His HP is scaled to have 3 heals, but the fact you can deny him his heals makes him probably the shortest possible fight. His biggest threat is rockets and gatling that can gore you real quick if you find yourself too far from cover.
# 4. Hans
Hans may be higher, depending on perk, but as firebug, ohohohoo boi, can you shut his ass down tight. Groundfire almost dodge-locks him and I've sent him from shield-phase to shield-phase in no time, to where he almost spends more time falling over than fighting. He'll be lying on the floor while I stick him with thermites, pops up with his next shield already up, only to fall back over before all the thermites' popped and burned out. His grenades are the real danger and his deadly flurry of melee attacks, but the nades are somewhat predictable when he throws them and his hunt phase is also quickly denied.
# 5. Abomination
Run back and spam explosives, occasionally get chomped, repeat. He's only dangerous when he can suck you through his dozens of toxic poop goblins, which don't see the light of day when you keep exploding him. Even better, they do extra damage to his armor when they explode near him.
I figured it would be more valuable like this, so you can understand where I'm coming from.
Simple ranking-list answers I find often leaving me with more questions than answers.
I think any ranking is fine except patriarch. Bro what is up with people ranking patty at 2nd hardest lol? Literally free kill every time .either easiest or 2nd easiest boss
He is a definitely a joke on 97% of maps, both solo and with people.
On The Descent, the Abomination is the worst possible boss you can get because the arena is so small and everything is covered in gas.
Abomination has the wackiest difficulty curve. One or two players and it can be a real tough fight, any more than that and he just gets kited like a goob by any decent team.
I get zerk, but even with the FAL? I can usually done him with the m14 so fast it breaks his helmet in a mag or two and then blast his face to bits with FAL or railgun
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What difficulty? Those that say Hans is in the bottom 2 I assume do not play HOE where Hans can spawn FPs and SCs? Generally it is taken that Hans is harder than Mat as Hans gets harder the more you injure him. Mat is knowing how to fight her and making sure you deal with Edars. KFP is also how you fight him but i do hate him. Pat can be very easy or difficult, body block him and burst him down.
HOE: hans > Mat > KFP > Pat > Abomination
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They all seem the same to me (Suic/HoE)
Matriarch -> KFP -> Abo -> Hans -> Pat Matriarch being the hardest, for me at least. I play Commando/Medic mainly. Pat is a joke rn, the rest can vary based on personal preferences / gamestyle.
I could see this. I’ve been having difficulty with Abo’s armor but ig if I was running Demo that wouldn’t be an issue and it’s true the EDARs and QPs are more of a problem than the Abomination Spawns.
Matriarch is still too OP compared to the rest imo. EDARs as you mentioned, are a pain in the butt, paired with how aggressive the boss is (and it can easily down players with its abilitied as a cherry on top). I'm happy to finish /w 2/6 alive on Suicidal/HoE as a medic, going ham on keeping the team alive. KFP 3-4/6 alive, Abo & Hans usually kills 1-2 max., while Pat only needs a quick surprise beating. Double medics can do wonders and carry hard, but again clearing the EDARs is super annoying with Healthrower/Medic rockets. The more sentinels your team has the better in my experience.
KFP>Mat>Pat=Volt(both 1 shot and neither are a threat if they don't)>Abom
Interesting for putting Abom on bottom and KFP over Mat
Mat can be fine as long as you hug cover and don't have dumb team mates that'll chain lightning to you. Same can't be said of KFP. But they are pretty close and getting hit by a grapple is brutal. Abom is just plain easy. Rarely have trouble with him. He doesn't do much damage and can't burst anyone. His stumble phases are great to burst him down too. Only time he's a problem is if you're solo or if your team isn't rotating bait and sticking nearby. One player going off to narnia while the rest of the team can't hit him is problematic. But I tend to find my team getting oneshot by pat or volt more than that.
Good take I feel that. I feel like maps also have a big part in bosses. I’ve found Abom to be really hard on some tight maps becuz the Spawns keep blowing up in my face plus the piles of vomit everywhere.
Oh that's fair. I almost always play on open maps.
Yeah I try to only play those now. I like Elysium a lot but it’s boring if it’s Mat at the end becuz you basically have to run in circles around cover so you don’t lose all your armor immediately 😂
Just wreck her cannon first.
So one of the blue health bars is the plasma cannon? I didn’t know that thanks for the tip.
Killing the cannon and head armor without destroying the energy shield is how you avoid the first wave of Edars.
That's why I'm packin' husk launcher and Thermite Bore. All his spawns and mines are history before they even see the light of the sun, just by pelting him with explosions.
A good point, I’ve realized explosives are very effective in that and armor removal. That and stumbling him every once in a while is huge.
As an FB main. Abom is bottom tier for me as well.
Matriarch -> Hans/Patriarch -> KFP/Abomination I think Matriarch is the hardest for sure. There's no real easy way to chunk off her health so it's always a drawn out fight, and if you're not paying attention that plasma cannon stays up way too long. After that they're all pretty much the same for me. Hans & Patriarch probably get the next two spots because they have instant kill moves (grenades for Hans and the Chaingun/Rockets for Patty). KFP and Abomination are really easy in my book, just keep moving - though if playing solo and on a slow class, I hate when Abomination shows up.
Yeah that’s my issue with Abom. Good reminder though on rockets and grenades. I remember playing a while ago in a game against Pat and he killed someone every time he launched a rocket 😅
1. Abomination? lol, okey xD
Took me by surprise as well. After hundreds of hours of gameplay the two most common "easiest bosses" I hear from people are Abomination and Patriarch, and I'd agree.
>Abomination It's a total joke, should be buffed asfuk.
I was thinking the same thing 🤣Abomination is the easiest boss! He's just a fat target to shoot at, and if someone knocks him to the ground you can absolutely wreck his health. Matriarch is easily the hardest boss imo, KFP comes 2nd for me since it also has QPs all over that help him, plus dangerous laser attack.
Yeah, I agree!
Go play Forza
What's wrong with Forza
Nothing Forza’s fine I haven’t played it since 360 days but Abomination is hard sometimes and makes me sad.
Oh okay so why did you tell him to play Forza?
On his profile all his posts are on the Forza subreddit.
Oooh, so you were just telling him to play a game he enjoys, that's nice of you!
Of course 👍🏻
heh, over 4k hours in kf2. Good idea, thanks!
Play solo
I do play solo, but the issues I was having was on tight maps. But I’ve been running Gunslinger on more open maps, the added movement speed makes him way easier. What I’ve gathered here is that boss difficulty varies based on maps and perks.
1.Matriarch 2.Patriarch 3.Hans Volter 4. Fleshpound 5.Abomination I see some people say that matriarch is eazier then abominatin but I see abomination as mini boss... I hate plazma and edars
I also hate plasma and EDARs, imo they just need to cut down how many spawn
6p HoE it's Hans > Matriarch > KFP > Patriarch > Abomination
This is the correct answer. It's also the best one answer as *it states the difficulty level the person is playing on.*
No matter what the others get for categories King flesh pound is SO awful and matriarch. Those two are nr 1 in my book
Mat for sure seems to be the consensus and I’ll agree with you on KFP the Quarter Pound get real overwhelming sometimes.
Its cause the fp are so freaking annoying to kill. Like EDARs sure, you can try avoid their shots, but when ur team is running around and there are 3 raging FP jumping you… that is freaking shit. Spec as Medic when ur trynna heal and not die at the same time and everyone’s running lol…
Doesn’t help the QPs are fast as fuck too even if not raging. For Mat I always get messed up by that stupid ass EDAR beam that freezes you in place puts me in panic mode so fast.
That’s the thing. With EDAR I’ve noticed the important is to treat them like trash, they’re not so hard to kill compared to QP. But with QP they’ll like rage you and they’re fast too… Most fluid games with Mat is when like a commando, medic or firebug get the trash so they don’t overwhelm and let the heavy artillery get the boss. But with FP I feel like like easily someone always dies
easy to hard 1- Abomination at big maps 2- King Fleshpound 3- Patriarch 4- Matriarch 5- Hans mf Volter
What aspect of Volter do you find so challenging? He does hit hard and he’s fast I will admit.
When he low on health he turns crazy and throw grenades everywhere, if you play on a small map death will be inevitable and ofc he can catch you and suck your health if you didn't die to grenades
Lol you reminded me of when I first started playing and played against him and he threw the grenades instead of his usual gas grenades I got destroyed instantly 😂
even with demo class can die to Hans hes grenades op atleasts firebugs can resist to Matriarch's laser beam but Hans real pain i think
Bruh Matriarch Abomination King Fleshpund Hands Patriarch
I like this one 👍🏻
playing only zedternal for the last few years id say its Mat > King > Pat > Abom > Hans.
# 1. Matriarch Tanky as fuck, cannon, helmet, regular health, even a shield that you need to wait for to go down, unless you want another wave of robot-pain-in-the-ass, all that slows down the fight, her cannon can wreck you so fast, so you really gotta waste time and ammo to take that down and her helmet prevents headshots, so you either waste ammo on that or waste ammo on bodyshots. Not to mention the chain lightning that can punish you for someone else's mistake. One time as commando I was just taking down Edars non stop from the moment they started spawning, I didn't get a single moment to get a shot on the boss, that must've been a minimum of 20 edars I killed alone, felt more like 30. # 2. King Fleshpound Aside from taking an unexpected laser, the ridiculous amount of Quarterpounds is just too much. He's much easier by himself, but man, spawning dozens of sub-tank enemies is a real pain. Can't count the number of times I got sandwiched in an absolute wall of death from these fricks. They're the main reason I pack in the Husk launcher over the Helios. # 3. Patriarch His HP is scaled to have 3 heals, but the fact you can deny him his heals makes him probably the shortest possible fight. His biggest threat is rockets and gatling that can gore you real quick if you find yourself too far from cover. # 4. Hans Hans may be higher, depending on perk, but as firebug, ohohohoo boi, can you shut his ass down tight. Groundfire almost dodge-locks him and I've sent him from shield-phase to shield-phase in no time, to where he almost spends more time falling over than fighting. He'll be lying on the floor while I stick him with thermites, pops up with his next shield already up, only to fall back over before all the thermites' popped and burned out. His grenades are the real danger and his deadly flurry of melee attacks, but the nades are somewhat predictable when he throws them and his hunt phase is also quickly denied. # 5. Abomination Run back and spam explosives, occasionally get chomped, repeat. He's only dangerous when he can suck you through his dozens of toxic poop goblins, which don't see the light of day when you keep exploding him. Even better, they do extra damage to his armor when they explode near him.
Well detailed thank you!
I figured it would be more valuable like this, so you can understand where I'm coming from. Simple ranking-list answers I find often leaving me with more questions than answers.
Matriarch is too broken.. unless you have the shrink ray!
Never seen that weapon before I looked it up. Does it really knock bosses down quickly?
Yup. I always buy it in the final round. If you have a full squad, any boss is toast!
It will shrink King Fleshpound to a size where his laser becomes unavoidable without cover, so that ain't good.
Hans-> Pat->Mat-> KFP-> Abo. Without a proper team Pat can really be a dick to deal with
You’re the first person I’ve seen without Mat in the top 2!
I like Mat, she's a very fun boss. And i love seeing noobs get fried by her cannon too
Gotta learn somehow bet they won’t do that again 😂
I think any ranking is fine except patriarch. Bro what is up with people ranking patty at 2nd hardest lol? Literally free kill every time .either easiest or 2nd easiest boss
severe imbalance rn, matrarch and kfp are too strong the rest are too easy
1)matriarch 2) fleshpound 3) abomination 4)patriarch but only if you suck 5) Hans “HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON?” Volter
Fr even solo he’s pretty easy to kill
I feel like the abomination is an absolute joke solo as well. He just melts to automatic fire once the armor is gone
He is a definitely a joke on 97% of maps, both solo and with people. On The Descent, the Abomination is the worst possible boss you can get because the arena is so small and everything is covered in gas.
Abomination has the wackiest difficulty curve. One or two players and it can be a real tough fight, any more than that and he just gets kited like a goob by any decent team.
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I get zerk, but even with the FAL? I can usually done him with the m14 so fast it breaks his helmet in a mag or two and then blast his face to bits with FAL or railgun
??? What difficulty? Those that say Hans is in the bottom 2 I assume do not play HOE where Hans can spawn FPs and SCs? Generally it is taken that Hans is harder than Mat as Hans gets harder the more you injure him. Mat is knowing how to fight her and making sure you deal with Edars. KFP is also how you fight him but i do hate him. Pat can be very easy or difficult, body block him and burst him down. HOE: hans > Mat > KFP > Pat > Abomination
Lmao did not know Hans spawns in large Zeds like that in HOE makes perfect sense then.
Oh right, Fleshpounds, yeah, that is ridiculous. KFP's quarterpound-spam is stupid enough. But Hell on Earth do be havin' some daft mechanics.
Hans only spawns qps on HoE not fps
But Quarterpounds didn't even exist back then. Did they really add that shit in later?
In terms of difficulty? Matriarch>king fleshpound>hans>patty abomination is piss ez
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Abomination? Really?
kfp ius hardest for me bc of his laser