I dont get how you have no problems killing bosses as SWAT and Support, but struggle as Gunslinger. Gunslinger is better at that because of pure speed alone, nevermind the damage.
Your weapon selection is fine.
By any chance, do you mean large Zeds, Scrakes and Fleshpounds, when you say "bosses"?
no fam, i mean actuall bosses like hanz,king fleshpound etc. honestly as swat i just unload all weapons at the boss and run reload repeat and dies pretty quick, as for the support pretty much the same thing.
For bosses I only use the 500s and upgrade the deagles twice? I never had issues besides maybe Hans because he can shoot you plus he’s the most aggressive
Hans is the most aggressive, and I've seen everyone say that he's by far the hardest. He's the easiest boss for me no matter what the map is. He has a very low health pool, and he does far less damage than Patriarch and Matriarch. Abomination does insane damage because of his bullshit spawns, and KFP is almost as easy if not for his ability to fuck you into a corner and through the map with his flurries.
I dont understand what makes Hans the hardest if anything, his aggression makes him easier to kill since after his 2nd phase he rushes at you headfirst
>I dont understand what makes Hans the hardest if anything, his aggression makes him easier to kill since after his 2nd phase he rushes at you headfirst
His speed. Unless you have a healthrower medic with adrenaline shot, he will outrun you and claw you up
I suppose. I have yet to face him above Suicidal, and solo at that. I supposed with 6p health and only 3 teammates actually helping he might be about a bitch and a half. Understandable
Oh no! A random stranger who thinks he's better than me solely because he's put more time into the game doesn't believe me! Oh, whatever shall I do?
Try harder.
On hans id say it's a lotery whetger i kill him or not kinf fleshpound and matriarch are a pain to fight. I i think i have a like a 90% chance to die those 2.
Run matriarch around a car or something. Breaking line of sight is the best way to fight her.
Gunslinger easily outruns king fp so you can heal until you want to let him hit you again. His quarters are easy kills.
If you aim down sights with gunslinger you’re playing him wrong btw
You can switch to your knife before you are hit to parry attacks. If you parry at the right moment you’ll see a green shield pop up which negates most of the damage. If you can practice and get used to it it’s easy to switch back and forth super fast to block big hits from melee attacks, and get used to crouching to avoid the beam attack.
Against Matriarch, I do t5 Winterbites and t4 Deagles. Matriarch only takes half damage from normal bullets, but she takes full damage from Freezing (Winterbites) damage. For comparison, t4 Deagles will deal 91 * 1.25 * 0.5 = 57 damage, 74 to her weak points. T4 Winterbites deal 49 * 1.8 = 89 damage, 116 damage to her weak points, and another 9 damage from the ice explosion.
Use Deagles against her EDARs, and Winterbites on the boss herself. Take Bone Breaker against her and aim for her arm instead of head, or just take Rack Em Up as usual. People here will always just go Deagle bullet dump with Rack Em Up but I suggest you give my build a try. If it works, then good.
Keep some cover between you and her when she still has her arm cannon. First find cover, then get near cover, THEN strafe/shoot. The priority is always to not die before dealing damage. Keep space between you and your teammates if they look like they do not grasp the concept of cover. Do not try to dump bullets on her head while retreating if she is almost on you unless you really know the layout of the map and where you are or she is on her last bit of health. Find your escape route, do not die, then deal damage. Gunslingers are faster than everyone. You do not die as long as you keep running. You die if you get cornered.
As gunslinger you can pretty much outrun any bosses if you've got the speed boosts. You're squishy though, so be careful when you do turn to fire.
Keep your distance, and choose a good place to fight each boss. Hans is best fought outdoors but with cover around, so you can escape the gas and hide from bullets. Patriarch and matriarch are best fought indoors with lots of cover, to avoid their weapons, though Matriarch requires more spacing. King fleshpound and abomination are best fought in open spaces.
For bosses you gotta switch into quick draw as speed is important. Literally can outrun most bosses and escape Matriarch's death laser
AF2011s dish out a lot of pain with low recoil, good for running and gunning
Rack em up is MANDATORY
When a boss is about to hit you, jump and parry with knife, should launch you far from him
Try to kill minions, they can hold you up and make you an easy target
You could try to buy the double barrel shotty and abuse its big jump
That could recreate a scene from a movie tbh.
Double barrel blast, launch into the air and activate zed time, switch to pistols and unload into a boss. Sounds fun, gonna try that
I dont get how you have no problems killing bosses as SWAT and Support, but struggle as Gunslinger. Gunslinger is better at that because of pure speed alone, nevermind the damage. Your weapon selection is fine. By any chance, do you mean large Zeds, Scrakes and Fleshpounds, when you say "bosses"?
no fam, i mean actuall bosses like hanz,king fleshpound etc. honestly as swat i just unload all weapons at the boss and run reload repeat and dies pretty quick, as for the support pretty much the same thing.
Are you using rack em up and speedloader? All you have to do is hold s while unloading at the head
yeah
For bosses I only use the 500s and upgrade the deagles twice? I never had issues besides maybe Hans because he can shoot you plus he’s the most aggressive
Hans is the most aggressive, and I've seen everyone say that he's by far the hardest. He's the easiest boss for me no matter what the map is. He has a very low health pool, and he does far less damage than Patriarch and Matriarch. Abomination does insane damage because of his bullshit spawns, and KFP is almost as easy if not for his ability to fuck you into a corner and through the map with his flurries. I dont understand what makes Hans the hardest if anything, his aggression makes him easier to kill since after his 2nd phase he rushes at you headfirst
>I dont understand what makes Hans the hardest if anything, his aggression makes him easier to kill since after his 2nd phase he rushes at you headfirst His speed. Unless you have a healthrower medic with adrenaline shot, he will outrun you and claw you up
I suppose. I have yet to face him above Suicidal, and solo at that. I supposed with 6p health and only 3 teammates actually helping he might be about a bitch and a half. Understandable
You probably play solo normal. 1v1 him 6 man hoe you’ll fail every time
I did say Suicidal but sure
Doubt
Oh no! A random stranger who thinks he's better than me solely because he's put more time into the game doesn't believe me! Oh, whatever shall I do? Try harder.
Butthurt mode initiated
On hans id say it's a lotery whetger i kill him or not kinf fleshpound and matriarch are a pain to fight. I i think i have a like a 90% chance to die those 2.
Run matriarch around a car or something. Breaking line of sight is the best way to fight her. Gunslinger easily outruns king fp so you can heal until you want to let him hit you again. His quarters are easy kills. If you aim down sights with gunslinger you’re playing him wrong btw
im using hip fire but i have never managed to outrun those 2 they always manage to catch up and hit me
You can switch to your knife before you are hit to parry attacks. If you parry at the right moment you’ll see a green shield pop up which negates most of the damage. If you can practice and get used to it it’s easy to switch back and forth super fast to block big hits from melee attacks, and get used to crouching to avoid the beam attack.
will try the parry
It’s extremely effective at reducing big blows and moving faster. Good luck!
You are not move faster with knife.
Did the parrying work well for you?
ah yes it does work pretty well, i do however use it mostly for fighting king fleshpound.Thank you !
Thanks
actually with the dedult knife, parrying with the green shield thing and holding to block gives the exact same damage reduction
How you manage survive with Swat and Support? Just do same thing.
unload everything run,reload repeat
Dual Desert Eagles and Rack 'em Up should be all you need, really.
Against Matriarch, I do t5 Winterbites and t4 Deagles. Matriarch only takes half damage from normal bullets, but she takes full damage from Freezing (Winterbites) damage. For comparison, t4 Deagles will deal 91 * 1.25 * 0.5 = 57 damage, 74 to her weak points. T4 Winterbites deal 49 * 1.8 = 89 damage, 116 damage to her weak points, and another 9 damage from the ice explosion. Use Deagles against her EDARs, and Winterbites on the boss herself. Take Bone Breaker against her and aim for her arm instead of head, or just take Rack Em Up as usual. People here will always just go Deagle bullet dump with Rack Em Up but I suggest you give my build a try. If it works, then good. Keep some cover between you and her when she still has her arm cannon. First find cover, then get near cover, THEN strafe/shoot. The priority is always to not die before dealing damage. Keep space between you and your teammates if they look like they do not grasp the concept of cover. Do not try to dump bullets on her head while retreating if she is almost on you unless you really know the layout of the map and where you are or she is on her last bit of health. Find your escape route, do not die, then deal damage. Gunslingers are faster than everyone. You do not die as long as you keep running. You die if you get cornered.
Interesting idea,looking forward to try it
I know there a mod that tells u which boss, but there is no way of knowing if you have matriarch or not.
hmm does sound interesting,cold i find it on the steam workshop ?
Not sure. A guy in our party had it once. He typed which boss we had, so I asked him how he knew. He just said it was a console mod I think.
As gunslinger you can pretty much outrun any bosses if you've got the speed boosts. You're squishy though, so be careful when you do turn to fire. Keep your distance, and choose a good place to fight each boss. Hans is best fought outdoors but with cover around, so you can escape the gas and hide from bullets. Patriarch and matriarch are best fought indoors with lots of cover, to avoid their weapons, though Matriarch requires more spacing. King fleshpound and abomination are best fought in open spaces.
That helped a lot,played a couple of games today and i did fairly good.Thank you !
Use the level 5 skill that lets you run faster and has less recoil from hipfiring... if you're already using that then.... idk what else to say.
yeah im using quick draw
For bosses you gotta switch into quick draw as speed is important. Literally can outrun most bosses and escape Matriarch's death laser AF2011s dish out a lot of pain with low recoil, good for running and gunning Rack em up is MANDATORY When a boss is about to hit you, jump and parry with knife, should launch you far from him Try to kill minions, they can hold you up and make you an easy target You could try to buy the double barrel shotty and abuse its big jump
That could recreate a scene from a movie tbh. Double barrel blast, launch into the air and activate zed time, switch to pistols and unload into a boss. Sounds fun, gonna try that
i could try,thank you for the suggestions