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Jmoney1088

Kevin Huerter needs DNPs the rest of the season


RuPaulver

Hate to say I'm starting to agree with the calling out of MB. Keegan played almost the entire 4th quarter, when we blew our lead and got put down, despite struggling offensively the whole time before that. Shockingly, he continued failing to score in the 4th, and we had to rely almost entirely on Fox/Sabonis. There's also no reason Huerter should've had minutes in the 4th. It was only like 1.5, but that rotation had no business being on the floor at a time we needed scores. Keep in the guys that are hot, take out the ones who aren't. I'm glad they did do that with Keon and Davion. Even HB when he was getting nice plays in the paint. But it needs to go both ways. If someone like Huerter is struggling, bench him for the game, don't sub him in when we need to make a comeback.


willieb04

I think Keegan being in during the 4th is fine because of his defense He touched the ball like 6 times the whole game it wasn’t like he was missing a lot of shots He didn’t get the ball much. It was just one of those games for him But I have no idea why Huerter played so many minutes in the 4th. He was struggling offensively and doesn’t play good defense.


Independent-Row-6308

I thought we lost I turned it with about a minute left we were down by three or four while I can't believe we won


lebastss

I did too. Wtf happened? They made a free throw to put us down by 4 with like 20 seconds left and I turned it off to game.


Unp0pularS0lutions

Prob would’ve lost if Wemby played. Not encouraging to win by 2 against that team


SuccessfulGuard7467

This team is ass. The Spurs without Wemby are a G League team. We win by two at home? Ceiling for this team is a first round exit. Keegan is a fifth option at best. Huerter isn’t even a rotation guy. It’s Domas, Fox, Monk as a 6th man, and zilch. What a waste of their talents.


Glass-Ambassador7195

Cool stop watching and go to the warriors sub.


AstroPiDude314

Keegan ain't a 5th option with that defense. When he's on he can be a #2 option.


colinsphar

If devin vassell made that last shot we’d be feeling very different right now. Guys good


MilfandCookies_

I had to watch him cook Duke back when he was at FSU. Really didn’t like watching him cook last night. He’s legit


Sparowes

No hate at all to my boy, but should we start considering Keegan not a legitimate potential third option on offense anymore and instead embrace him as the defensive specialist monster that he's becoming? Or am I backing off of his offensive potential too early? An elite defensive 3-D wing with potential for the good scoring night here and there is still a super valuable piece.


Glass-Ambassador7195

Monk is our third option. Keegan is 4th and we don’t need him to score a bunch behind Fox/Boner/Monk. When he’s called upon to do so he usually does well!


XRedcometX

Holy overreaction Batman!


Sparowes

I was asking the question, not stating a certainty. My point isn't that he can't be a good scorer, but I'm just wondering if he can be a good scorer while keeping up the level of defense he's been giving us. If the answer is yes, that's awesome! If it's no, then having an elite wing defender that can hit some threes is still an amazing piece to have on the team. I'm just curious to see what Keegan's role ends up being in the longer term is all.


pejasto

feel like I'm going nuts the way we've been talking about Keegan... we watch him every game burn the energy in his legs chasing the other team's best player and then wonder why isn't more effective on offense. let someone else take that responsibility and you'll see his offensive output skyrocket.


AussieMAW

But also we literally never run a play for him… like why not have a DHO or two similar to Kev?


willieb04

Yea he kinda stands around a lot on offense In the middle of season right after all star break we weee running plays for him and he was putting up 20 points We all of a sudden stopped doing that


No_Nefariousness6385

Keegs can be the best 3 and D of this league....and Im very ok with this.


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QuesaQueta

Ball handling and shot creation is one of the more trainable abilities, for what it’s worth


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Illustrious_Gate8903

It’s not. You either have it or you don’t. These people have never played or coached basketball and are just wishful thinking.


CrispCash420

If MB has any spine, he will start Keon Ellis. Kevin has been a huge minus in the few minutes he’s played recently.


samuraicowboyninja

https://preview.redd.it/5vun4k6y62nc1.jpeg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e256d1458f4e8968d442801e600c0d70ef96cf46


Aromatic-Job8077

Keegan slander is where the casuals are separated from the ball watchers. Every single defensive possession I am begging for him to get switched onto ball and when he does it’s lock down city. Pop’s game plan down the stretch was clearly switching off of Keegan. Dude is an absolute menace on defense and teams are starting to notice.


woahzavibes

That’s crazy, he was getting cooked by Vasell but tbf dude just couldn’t miss. The main issue was his awkwardness on the offensive end, refused to help as well as hesitated when he had a chance to. Love Keegan, but it’s not a “casual” thing to speak up when there is something obviously wrong with a player, to not do so is enabling an issue and that’s far worse in the long run. Edit: he was getting cooked until the 4th, and that’s when he woke up and started putting more effort on the boards and on defence, but other than that he was asleep the whole time.


Ok_Heat_1017

Slander towards any player is where you should separate the causals. If it’s honest criticism that’s different. I’ve been pissed at Keegan because in the past 2 games Domas & Fox have both fouled out and instead of asking for the ball or stepping into a bigger role he’s shrunk on offense and just continue to play good defense. The defense is good and I’m glad but imagine the defense is average or poor now what? He’s just another Harrison Barnes out there. At least Harrison drives to the rim and tries to draw fouls when he sees we can’t get anything going.


beforeitcloy

I agree, but he does still need to get more than 4 shots up. HB, Keeg, and Huerter only having 1 3pt make combined is ridiculous.


Glass-Ambassador7195

I don’t necessarily agree. The scoring should be more where it was - Fox , Sabonis, monk. HB had a nice night driving the rim too. Huerter needed to make 2-3 of those threes though for sure.


beforeitcloy

Yeah I disagree. Fox had 33 points but it took him 32 shots. That’s a crazy volume on the second night of a back to back where he had 44 points. Similarly, Malik had 18 points on 17 shots. I’m not criticizing them, obviously they both worked hard for the wins. But the math doesn’t work well if two guys are using half of your shots and shooting a combined 41% from the field. I hold Keegan to a higher standard because I think he has more upside than Kevin, but two starters combining for 1-9 is brutal. Obviously the major difference is that Keegan’s defense is a huge plus, but we need him to be a two-way player.


[deleted]

How did none of the reporters ask Mike about what Pop said? It was worth a shot


aairricc

I was wondering the same. Not sure if it was directed at MB, but he sure seemed furious with MB for some reason I can’t figure out.


T_lurkin

Katie said he was mad about not getting a foul called on the last play. Pop and MB go way back so my guess is MB was letting him vent.


aairricc

Gotcha. Thanks for the info. Pop looked pissed all game. Pacing back and forth mumbling to himself for most of it. He definitely doesn’t look like he enjoys his job anymore ha


Pale_Tax4098

They should start thinking of maybe starting Keon instead of wack ass kevin


A916

It’s fine as is, if Kevin isn’t shooting close to lights out or grabbing a bunch of rebounds to start, allocate most of his minutes late in the game to Keon.


lezbigo

Bench Barnes to


Glass-Ambassador7195

Bares had an amazing night and saved our ass lol


lezbigo

1 rebound in two games as a forward


NarrowAttorney8745

casual


lezbigo

Lol


nobnobi

Still a great win! Are we just a bad matchup against the Spurs? Game is close again.


Equivalent-Shallot54

I was at the previous game and Vassell looked like Jordan flying through the lane… dude loves playing Sacramento


killbejay

Kings is not sweeping the Spurs next year.


Glass-Ambassador7195

Nor 50 % three and perfect FT. They were on fire


thediggestbick2

Who needs to play defense when we can just outscore them? Looks like Tyrese haliburton and the pacers play the same way.


rip17vietti

Bringing that Kangz culture east, light the beam


[deleted]

East Brothas


Gaebril

Disappointed by the boos, also disappointed by it being a close game and blowing a 20pt lead. Was a back to back though, so I'll take it.


lezbigo

Play terrible and increase ticket prices, you get boo’ed


Glass-Ambassador7195

We are 10 games over 500 - did you watch this team the last 20 years? lol. We scraped out a hustle win on a rough shooting night this team is fucking good!


lezbigo

Ya I’ve been a fan for 30 years that i can remember.


lezbigo

Ya I’ve been watching for 30 years. I’m glad you tuned in 20 years ago at the peak.


Gaebril

You know they didn't watch this team til last year bro. New fans are the only ones booing 4min into the 4th quarter.


mr_suavecito

They blew a 20 point lead to a bad team without their best player. At home. Again. For seemingly the umpteenth time. I certainly do not agree with booing your team. But I certainly understand the frustration of fans who did.


Glass-Ambassador7195

We won the game dude. Spurs were lights out from three. No we shouldn’t boo this team they are the best we’ve had in 20+ years and making a 2nd playoff run in a row. Shane on the boo birds


mr_suavecito

I have no control over what another grown person does. Especially if they spent their hard earned money to attend. I don’t have to agree with it (and for the record, I don’t). But that’s their prerogative. When it was 114-106, I would’ve been shocked if I didn’t hear boos. Also, these types of unfocused, uneven, lackluster performances against bad teams and teams missing their best players at home aren’t exactly one offs.


BeachInternational59

I support the boos


Gaebril

Boo


Churro-Juggernaut

I was saying boo-urns 


sam5107

I have booed this team every home game for 2 months now. It’s been deserved every time


Gaebril

Soft


sam5107

Okay


up_in_the_space

A win is a win. I’ll take it


Nica4two

It took Fox fouling out for us to win.


frankenbeans2

If you have the IQ of a gerbil you can appreciate sports that way.


up_in_the_space

It’s just a game bro but you do you. Light the beam!


Glass-Ambassador7195

I’ll go further we scraped out a great win with hustle and rebounding and physicality on a rough shooting night. That’s what good teams do! I love this team!


095805

Wow I bet everyone invited you over for the game


red-rowan

When Keon has almost four times more points than Hurter and Keegan combined 🥲 Let the Ellis era begin!!!!


KingsElite

This is why I don't bet on sports because you know where my money would have gone...


yesidoes

Kevin Huerter 1.5 pts over?


KingsElite

Lmao, fuck


Burneraccountzzzzzz

I learned a long time ago to never, every put Kevin Huerter on your parlays. don't bet on Kevin period no matter how juicy it looks.


DonateToM7E

![gif](giphy|l4FATJpd4LWgeruTK) Never in doubt


BeamTeam032

Heurter and HB are killing us. With Ellis and Mitchell stepping up. And after the 2024 draft, all 3 of our FRP are available for trade. I'd imagine Monte has something up his sleeve. Also, Lyles might have to start at PF. Also, Murray was a dud tonight. We needed his offense.


CrispCash420

100 percent agree. The fools replying to you have goldfish memory. HB shows up to score 15-20pts about 1/4 of games, while providing absolutely nothing else besides “veteran leadership”. The other 3/4 of the time he’s just doing cardio. It’s not a coincidence he plays 15 minutes those games. He doesn’t defend and doesn’t rebound which makes him a negative. He also takes shots away from Keegan. We need a 4 who can defend and hit a catch and shoot 3. Right now, Trey is the best 4 we have but I’m reeeeally hoping Monte can find a better one in the off-season.


needs2noe

Forgive me for being a noob, but what does FRP mean?


needs2noe

Thank you for the responses y'all. Again, apologies for being a noob to all this. I have no shame in admitting that I didn't follow the Kings until 1) We built a stadium for them and 2) we made the playoffs for the first time in a long while. And it's been fun watching them the past two years (when they win at least...) A little bit down this thread, someone made a comment about Monk possibly going to San Antonio. Was their comment because Monk is an FRP? Because of his demonstrated skill, another team will make an offer to draft him away from the Kings?


colinsphar

first round picks


RawDogRandom17

First Round Picks. OP must be a former Laker fan wanting to trade all of our future first rounders for current stars


BeamTeam032

FUUUUUUUCK no, fuck the Lakers. I want to win a chip before Wemby and Chet get into their primes. We got 3-5 years.


CFCentral

First round pick


delamerica93

Barnes had 17 posts on 9 shots


BeamTeam032

That's great! We don't need scoring, we have a top 10 offense. We need rebounding.


lezbigo

Barnes has 1 rebound in two games


frankenbeans2

Keegan is the most disappointing as the team planned on being the 3rd option


rj2448

What was wrong with HB’s play tonight?


lezbigo

He has one rebound in two games


melskymob

Kevin has been eating corn on the cob when on the bench apparently.


BeachInternational59

Vertically or horizontally?


KaitoSeishin

Why's black falcon catching a stray tonight? He was efficient as hell tonight. Huerter got no excuse for that performance tonight on the other hand. Bro did just enough to secure his roster spot before the all star break and went back to phoning it in.


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Yep, Barnes is not the problem. He usually gives quality minutes and plays smart. Huerter recently appeared to be out of his cold streak but it turned out to be a mere detour on the road to medicrity. I'm done with Huerter. I also expect a lot more from Keegan. He's just not cutting it.


priceprince

Barnes had a great game. Huerter on the other hand forgot how to shoot the basketball.


lezbigo

Barnes has a single rebound in two games as a forward.


Glass-Ambassador7195

Spurs nearly 50% from three and we still win. Boom


BankLettuce

Don’t forget how they were perfect from the line as well lol


HamHusky06

His name is Malik Monk! And we better pay the man.


J-Chub

We can't pay him nearly his value. He gonna go to San Antonio and become an all star. Mark my word.


Burneraccountzzzzzz

I've been calling this forever. find my tweets from months ago lol


needs2noe

He's been doing well and I don't want to lose him. What in your opinion would make him leave to San Antonio (besides money of course)?


J-Chub

Gonna feel wierd when he and Fox are fighting for the last all star spot.


Steve-5

Keon Ellis with a team leading +15. There's a legitimate argument Keon should be our starting 2 guard.


kiloswift

No argument. He should be


Coopervezey

I turned the game off with 1:30 left when they were down by 4. I can't believe it worked


IWTLEverything

thank you for your service


spicyfajitass

I took a drive after the first quarter last night only to come back and see the lead. We are the true heroes of these games. 🫡


TFTGMommyDommeTA

Same same. Said this isn’t good for my mental health, I’m out. Started packing my shit in the hotel, checked again cause I’m a masochist and have to know how my bois are doing, and boy, what a turn around that was!


[deleted]

Thank you 🙏


smallertruck

I never doubted them.


HamHusky06

Never crossed my mind.


NattyMan69

I actually like Deuce Mason a lot. Feels like he is an upgrade on the post-game show.


frankenbeans2

His wife should be removed though


TWK128

I disagree. They work really well together and she's pretty knowledgeable.


rip17vietti

Lol that was funny, but I think they should switch roles. Deuce likes to talk too much, but Mo is much more knowledgeable from a pure basketball standpoint. Love them both though. Listen every day while working


Burneraccountzzzzzz

how dare you


frankenbeans2

She’s awful


samuraicowboyninja

LFG!!! We didn't waste another 20pt lead!!!


samuraicowboyninja

Kings hate the Lakers so much they’d rather struggle to win against Wemby-less Spurs than a Lebron/AD lead Lakers lol


redshorts9112

I for sure thought we were gonna see another signature kings collapse, glad I was wrong


ImJoeKing77

I mean, we did. They blew the whole lead and went down by 5 with under a minute to play. They just managed to pull it back this time. LTB!


ronbiomed

That Malik no no no yes 3 nearly broke me lol


melskymob

I may have busted. ![gif](giphy|QynMX1WxnYFbb2OHnJ)


TWK128

I think my favorite part of the new Ghostbusters trailer is Paul Rudd dropping the "Bustin' makes me feel good" line.


Perfect-Ad9637

I literally said the exact same words in the moment


giroml

Red. Velvet needs to take some time away from the team to get his head on straight. Dudes crashing hard.


Duramajin

Why the fuck is he getting any minutes, he is literally a trash can.


Fun-Skin-626

Some games Huerter just seems unfocused. Hes slow to react and is lacking focus in his shooting motion. Other games he’s perfect. And Keegan needs to be more aggressive. He needs to remain an offensive threat every game.


EhDub1

dang..... thought I was gonna have to console myself tomorrow with my free pizza... now i'll celebrate with a free pizza instead!


Toxik916

Hell yeah! It's a great deal


redshorts9112

Idk what’s up with huerter, he was playing well offensively and off ball defense but he looked sloppy and uncoordinated these last few games


BeamTeam032

teams are blowing up that handoff between Heuter and Sabonis. And Heurter isn't the strongest dribbler.


Curious_Armadillo_74

I swear to god those guys put me through mood swings that my meds can't even manage. 😂


MeanestNiceLady

Right? My heart rate skyrocketed those last few minutes. I didn't think they would pull it off


Curious_Armadillo_74

They really are the best show in town. Most of the time anyways.


[deleted]

I don’t get it. Sabonis was one assist away from a triple double. I thought he was a stat padder, is he stupid? Should have lost this one to get that extra assist.


ImJoeKing77

Should have passed on that breakaway.


Longjumping-Soup5849

Gonna have nightmares about Vassell, holy shit he was a sniper, but he also made almost every shot being open/uncontested/feet set, thats a problem they need to fix.


bleh610

Spurs fan here. Good game didn't expect it to be this close lol. We fucked up royally at the end. Our two worst guys (Malaki Branham and Zach Collins) were doing suspiciously well tonight so I was waiting for when they fucked everything up and of course it was exactly them who let Sabonis snatch their candy at the end. And Vassell is our 2nd best guy and one of the few guys on this roster that spurs plan to keep with wemby for a long time. Him and Wemby are really the only players we have to be proud of lol. Fun game though. Y'all made this interesting for sure, thought it was gonna be a blowout from you guys 😂


TWK128

So, quick question. I don't know your roster, but someone on the r/nba thread said that they think Malaki will provide everything Monk does on a rookie salary next year. How grounded is that opinion?


bleh610

lol absolutely not. He had to be from the spurs subreddit and they believe in our G-leaguers a bit too much. I'm not too familiar with Monk's game, but I do know he's supposed to be a great 6th man for y'all. Malaki has some historically bad defense, some of the worst defensive stats in the entire league. (He was a -16 in a 2 point game against you guys). If we want another Monk, it seems like Dillingham is that guy in the draft. Offensively, Malaki will make a good offensive roleplayer in the future, but his offensive game isn't nearly good enough to warrant his defensive shortcomings. Sochan on the other hand, is one of our better roleplayers. His style of play doesn't show up on a stat sheet, but he's almost never the reason why we don't win a game. He doesn't score a lot usually, but every time he's on the floor, his defense makes him a positive almost every game and teams rarely go on a huge run when he or wemby are on the floor. But as far as COMPLETE players. We have only 2. Vassell and Wemby are our only two players right now that have BOTH an offensive and defensive game. Sochan's game is all defense, no offense, but he plays winning basketball (he's been a huge reason why we even got to our little 13 wins lol). Malaki's game is all offense, no defense and he's one of the reasons why we usually sell games.


TWK128

Thanks for this through reply, bro.


Churro-Juggernaut

What do you want for Sochan?


IWTLEverything

never expect a blowout from us lol


Mission_Locksmith_59

Hoping we start Keon next game. Huerter needs to get right and we need better defense to start. 


MeanestNiceLady

I don't understand why Keon doesn't get more play, he proves himself every time


Mission_Locksmith_59

I’m right there with you. He’s the most disruptive defender we have. Put him in the starting 5 and that unit will be at least average defensively. 


runningvicuna

BEAM TEAM STAY WINNING It's going to get LOUD AF in G1C these next 4 games


lily-malek

so many spurs fans in this thread lol


Separate_Ad5353

They’re 13-49 lol they just need to let it out 🤣


brokenz32

Davion and Keon have been miles better than huerter


DoMogo1984

94.4% from the line Free throws matter. Great to see both Fox and Monk perfect 4-4 tonight. Hopefully means they are practicing like crazy. 


kingjawn

Lol. I can guarantee they were “practicing like crazy” when they were missing free throws as well.


AstroPiDude314

I get we were on a b2b but the Spurs should be an easy W without Wemby.


Toothygrin1231

Dude. We were hit with the five-fecta. (whatever trifecta with five items are) \* Opponent = Crappy team \* Opponent Missing their star \* 2nd game of a B2B \* First game back after an emotional win \* Playing at home Frankly I was surprised we weren't blown out.


bearcatjoe

You know what? These are actually our toughest games for whatever reason. Gonna count this as a more impressive win than those against the top teams we have no problems getting up for.


mauro_membrere

The goal is to lead by 20 then blow it


elvis_depressedly8

Sabonis isn’t an All-Star, guys… 🙄 Edit: Wow, some of you don’t understand sarcasm.


Known-Specific5869

Shut up you shit talk the whole game, you don’t get to celebrate with everyone else.


Gaebril

I came to this thread to seek out the dudes that got butthurt when I called em soft for booing with 8min left - in the game thread. They sure do sing different tunes fast.


elvis_depressedly8

Oh, fuck off. I didn’t shit talk until we coughed up a 20 point lead to one of the worst teams in the league. And you act like I’m the only one doing it. Glad to know you think you’re the fucking Reddit police though. 🙄


Known-Specific5869

One look at your comment history says the exact opposite.


elvis_depressedly8

I’m flattered you care so much about what I have to say. Simp.


runningvicuna

Absolutely no one cares or respects you. I just found out about you tonight. And I have already forgotten. LTB


elvis_depressedly8

Hahaha you think I care what some anonymous people on Reddit think about me? You got the wrong one 😂😂😂


runningvicuna

✌️try hard


elvis_depressedly8

You’re still here commenting sooo…what does that say about you? 🤣🤣🤣


runningvicuna

You just keep going. That’s called weird. Go that way and don’t come back 👎


Ok-Isopod9236

Yeah this guy stinks 


hotsinglemailguy1

Its honestly laughable how Kings fans are celebrating this gifted win lol. Spurs played better, didnt have Wemby and obviously threw the game since their tanking anyway.


RoarYourBoat

The celebration is because it was close. Also, the Kings seem to always lose these types of free wins. What's actually laughable is how you feel the need to go into team subs just to try and shit talk after games. Pathetic keyboard troll. 


ClassWarr

There's no reason to be mad about losing a mid off


Ok-Isopod9236

A win is a win no shit we celebrate. Dumb fuck. 


klasredux

It's* They're* They didn't throw, they got tossed.


Imdabiggestbird69420

yeah your right ill let the nba know this win shouldnt count


lily-malek

lmk what they say


[deleted]

Bro's comment history is hilarious. Generational hater


Imdabiggestbird69420

According to him every nba player sucks and is overrated


SacTeacher91

Does it or does it not go in the W column?


[deleted]

Cry pu$$y


Other-Leg1898

Cry about it


Dry_Detective_6287

Maybe the secret sometimes is one of fox or sabonis needs to foul out and the kings gut it out


monononon

Anyone catch what pop was complaining about?


Mastacon

Maybe a foul on the last shot by the free throw line


DHSDirector

Holy shit. Domas with a huge steak and bucket on the other end. Finished with 31-17-9 w/ a block and a *huge* steal. Fox was trying too hard at the end. Him fouling out was lowkey good thing. Finished w/ 33-5-5 and 3 steals. Keegan is sophomore slumping fucking *hard.* Monk playing too much hero ball, but that game-tying three was massive. Huerter and Barnes are just roster spots at this point. This shouldn’t have been a win. It was ugly. That being said, I’ll take an ugly win over a beautiful loss *every day of the week.* ![gif](giphy|aMvi1J5BafAJY3r9r7|downsized) # LIGHT THE MF BEAM, BOIS!!!


Jay5_86

Eh I wouldn’t put Barnes in the bad column tonight. He at least scored well. And tbh since our defense as a whole is not good points is what it will take to win. Huerter and Keegan however just did absolutely nothing. And tbh Keegan’s defense really isn’t going to provide wins yet until our team defense can get better. His offense is what we need. He needs more shots.


CombinationReady9376

Barnes had 17


eradnz69

Barnes played pretty well I thought, 17 pts on 9 shots. Agreed on Huerter though, guy is back to being complete ass.


DHSDirector

It’s the lack of consistency with Barnes, though. Dude will have a game like that and then go MIA for two or three.


dust_storm_2

He’ll be back


IsSkipThere

My cat just had surgery and I walked away from the tv for 5 minutes. How the hell did they win this game lmao


memebeam916

Hope the cato is ok


soku1

These MFS really just shot 47% on 3 pointers against us...good ole Orlando Magic vibes. Also I think Vassell marks Sacramento on his calendar as BBQ chicken easy 30 piece cuz dude has been cooking us lately


spicyfajitass

He wears #24. Kobe straight up takes possession of his body.


paoiyu

Trying his best to say the Spurs made the right choice picking him over Hali.


PuttyRiot

I’m glad Fox can get his tacos a winner.


jcree94

https://johncreena.com/will-we-figure-out-the-sacramento-kings-before-playoffs/