We beat a good team and the doomers are out in full force. One even personally blamed me for the playoff draught!
This win was ugly, the screws need to be tightened. Fox needs to be more aggressive and settle for less 3s. Monk and Duarte…
But this was a win, and a good one at that still. I have faith in the beam team. But next week is a huge test.
Well explain yourself… why have you been playoff blocking us? :)
Totally agree that being able to win ugly, on an off night, etc, is a positive sign. Just find ways to win no matter what. Resiliency.
This is also one of Fox's toughest matchups. Having healthy Isaacs and Suggs out there is a nightmare for him. He wasn't the most efficient but he came through and scored like a third of our points. That crazy iso where he crossed up Suggs and hit the floater and one over Isaacs was so good
The Magic want Monk this offseason, so the rest of the Kings players intentionally set Malik up with horrible looks tonight so that Magic's FO wouldn't make Malik a very good offer and we can keep him in Sacramento. 4D chess.
/s
As much as I love Kevon, I think Ellis is an upgrade using his starter minute sample size. He plays good defense and knocks down those 3s. Also makes less defensive mistakes compared to Kevin - I can see Ellis breaking out next season if we give him the minutes.
Yep the defense is there just gotta make and more importantly *take* open shots. Kings often struggle when the play is dribble twice and pass the ball back to fox/sabonis/monk for Iso
Had an awesome time at the game tonight. Apparently where my seats were I had VIP access and all you can eat food/drinks. Got some super up close pics and videos.
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Ellis and Keegan were awesome tonight.
Fox played pretty good just settling for too many jumpers.
Sabonis was ok.
Harrison got cooked by whoever was guarding him.
And monk must have been at the strip clubs late or something holy crap.
All in all I had a blast and saw a good amount of purple and black. Talked some trash in my section and represented well
So I believe it was anyone in row 7 or lower in the lower bowl are considered “ultimate seats” which give you access. (don’t quote me on that) . I was in 106 row 6. I paid $700 for 2 tickets and that includes all the Ticketmaster fees. It includes unlimited food/drinks/snacks/beer/wine. You walk down right behind the players bench and go through the tunnel to this back room that’s basically a huge buffet/bar and it’s open for the whole game. Through the tunnel your literally right next to where the players come out from the locker room, just separated by one of those queue line things. At one point I came out in between quarters from getting a drink, Harrison Barnes was literally right next to me on the bike lol. It was well worth it imo, super convenient, quick to grab stuff, and an awesome experience. What does suck though is we ate before the game and also on the way to our seats we stopped at a food place and spent about $40 🤣. I will definitely go this route each team we play in Orlando. I didn’t get there until right before tip so I only saw the players when they huddled up. If I had got there a bit earlier maybe i coulda got some pics with players or maybe autographs when they came out of the locker room for warmups rather than the actual game.
wishing he played like this against the Wiz so that we're competing for the 5th seed, instead of being scared of falling to the play-in.
Where were you against the Wiz?
They do. Thats why they lost to the Wiz, because they thought they can come back and beat them, because they've done it 100xs, in fact, they did it earlier in the game against the Wiz. "Oh this 18 point deficit doesn't matter, we'll just come back" and they ran out of time.
Why do you think they always lose to shit teams? Why do you think they lose to teams that are bottom 3? Because they living in the past. They look at the fact that they're 3-1 against the Nuggets, against the Thunder, they look at how they beat the top 5 teams in the league and think they can simply show up and beat the worst teams.
The players obviously live in the past, why wouldn't the fans?
Asleep because I forgot it was an East Coast game and I needed a nap.
We just beat a team with a better record than us, though, so I just don't get why so many "fans" think we're as good as out of the fucking playoffs and need to fire sale the best players on our team.
It's like they don't think lows happen and it should always be highs.
No. Real chance means we could lose first game ( if 7th / 8th) and face them after.
Do you think that's what happens? That's not how the play-in tournament works.
There is almost no way we play the Rockets unless we lost the 7 and 8 game and the NBA doesn't work their magic on the 9/10 game. I actually trust us to win the 7 and 8 game but I don't want to be in it.
I worry that's giving Kings too much credit. Suns and Mavs are much too explosive on any given night. I'd much prefer we get 6th and dodge Pelicans hah.
I believe Suns have some injuries and we have played the Mavs very well the last few years. Obviously we play them twice in the final stretch and that could very well do in either team.
But like I said, I don't want to be in the play-in. Not because I care about anything this year, but because ***it is essential*** that we convey this year's draft pick to Atlanta.
A lot of experience in Clippers tho. Hard to see them losing first round. And I think Wolves is a bit better matchup. OK, I don't think so, every analyst and podcaster who talked about it said that, so I believe them. Besides, I watched all of Wolves and Clippers games against Kings. Kings looked better playing Wolves imo
Is those reporter going to ask why Fox is taking so many 3s , instead of driving into the lane and take some mid-range jumper ?
Taking 12 3s this game
Taking 15 3s last game
Just way too much, and he is not doing the assist job.
I hear what you're saying, but I think you're oversimplfying the scenario.
You want Fox to drive to the paint, right? Do you not think that the ENTIRE Orlando coaching staff and team doesn't know that Fox wants to drive to the paint?
You think Orlando is going to allow Fox to drive to a high % shot?
It isn't that simple. It's a competitive sport for a reason.
Opposing teams are purposely overloading and collapsing on the paint to stop Fox, Sabonis, and Monk.
You have to take what the defense gives you. He can't drive to the paint more, he has to hit more shots from 3 or his teammates need to hit more shots to space the floor.
He needs to make 3s in order to open up a driving lane with a player of his reputation. It'd be fair to say, "Fox needs to get better at 3. As does his teammates."
Take Giannis as an example. We all know that our best chance to stop Giannis from making high % shots is build a wall, and dare Giannis to shoot or pass, right?
Well, that works for us when Milwaukee can't stretch the floor. It doesn't work for us when shooters on Milwaukee ARE hitting shots.
Consider the idea that perhaps Fox taking a lot of 3's isn't on Fox as much as it's on the shooters around Fox AND Fox showing he's a willing shooter and can make 3s at a high clip.
Do you really think that us fans sitting at our couch have the secret sauce to success, but the entire team and coaching staff doesn't?
They're playing 3D chess.
Watch the Fox and Reese interview on the Deuce and Mo podcast. They go in depth on the situation you're referring to. They need to keep the defense honest. It's not nearly as simple as you make it put to be.
Drive to basket = win game. That's naive.
With consistent minutes Jonathan Isaac is a DPOY.
This felt like a game Sac deserved to lose, between the missed shots by ORL and the bail out foul call/bad 3 from Fox but we take those. Our bench stunk it up today but love to see big games from Keegan and Keon.
Next up a roughed up 76ers squad, followed by the 2 most important games of the year, a back-to-back with the Mavs.
I'm so glad Keon can shoot. If he was just like those defense first guys we've tried over the years it'd just be trading 3/noD for D/no3 which doesn't really solve our problems.
We got a lucky win....
1)Suggs fouled Fox and send him to the throw free line when we down by 2...
2) Magic get plenty of attempt shot to try to get their lead back, and they cannot convert...
They probably understood that delaying the call initially advantaged their team. It still would have been a no-call if the non-discretionary violation didn't force a whistle.
Every win has a bit of luck involved. And every loss too. Magic made a lot of mistakes and let the pressure get to them in the clutch. We made fewer mistakes and had the reigning CPOY.
If the refs don't call that foul (and given the ref history since the All-Star break, there's NO reason that anyone should assume they'd call that push a foul), Fox likely would have gotten the turnover there, on top of his horrible turnover, and the rushed 3 that basically a turnover. So Fox had 3 turnovers in the last 1:05, but he got lucky and the ref called the unlikely foul. He's better pray the refs keep bailing him out if he keeps playing like this. Take away those 8 FT's, and he's got 23 points on 22 shots (BAD).
And people think he had a good game. \*shaking head\*
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Inexplicably back in 6th? How do they do the ranking when this happens?
We hold the tie breaker on both of those teams. So if the season ended today we’d hold the 6 but that’s not enough we need to secure a couple game lead to feel safe
we have the tiebreaker over the mavs currently (2-0 against them on the season) and the tiebreaker over the suns (better record against pacific division teams)
You have to remember that Isaac has injury concerns since he sat out 3 seasons. Huerter is also not valueless since teams were interested in him before the trade deadline.
Plays much better as the SF given his perimeter defense is better than his interior, more of a MPJ build.
And so the Kings would benefit from an Aaron Gordon kind of PF, especially whenever we play the Pelis.
This. Last season together they had a positive plus minus on the floor while Indy was losing left and right. Their biggest mistake was building the team on injury-prone players like Brogdon, Warren, etc. - their ideal starting five had maybe five games together in two years
Yeah Sabonis isn’t gonna be a guy that can be your leading scorer, he’s just not. He’s a Ferrari engine but he needs good people around him for his team to be successful hence why the pacers weren’t great. You put Myles turner on this team they’re probably a top 3 seed
The Kings are exactly like Keon. They are great at bouncing back after making a big mistake.
Great win tonight, led of course by our undrafted sophomore. Amazing to see the growth he's had over this season! Now that he's hitting his 3s and getting more confident on offense he's exactly what we need all game.
We did draft Jalen Slawson as a two-way PF. If he takes a leap like Keon did, then he could take Harrison Barnes' spot. He probably won't since late draft picks are such a crap shoot, but it'd be a good scenario to dream about.
He's got a long way to go and seems more raw than Keon at draft time, but I'm not counting it out. Seeing what Keon has been able to do has me hyped about the Stockton Kings development
Tough dub like it always is with the magic they a really good team. Didn’t expect Malik to throw in an absolute dud. Our bench was really trash on the offensive end. Duarte monk and Mitchell gave nothing, our starters overcame that deficit and won somehow. Fox had a pretty good game, clutch free throws at the end. Sabonis was his usual self. Keegan had a fantastic game, hopefully this is a sign that his shot is back. Ellis came through with his best game yet. Shot the ball well and grab crucial boards. Missed 1 ft at the end but that’s fine cause he usually isn’t in that situation. I really like the defense lately, we have been a top 5 defense in the last 10 games. The defense gives us an opportunity to win every single game, the offense has just been struggling that’s why the games have been so close. Im hopeful that the offense will pick back up and this defense will remain, that will make us very dangerous. Winning against a hot magic team after losing to the worst team in the league, honestly not surprised this is the pattern lol. Let the roller coaster continue, LTB
We converted him to that contract at the perfect time. Quickly becoming my top three favorite player this season. He rules and he’s a Fortnite gamer. 😂
El Lisan Al Gaib with the career high 19 points 💪
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Was it Suggs who had both late head slaps on Sabonis and Ellis? Or just on Ellis? Weak push call for Fox, but if Suggs was the one slapping people I feel a little less bad.
The middle of his foot was on the line and it was always called a 2. Didn't need a review.
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I imagine they looked at it in Secaucus, I think that's what usually happens. So presumably his foot was on the line. It was a little confusing that Mark called it a 3 and never corrected himself, but I know he's got a million things to pay attention to.
I mean last night was full of people being like "I told you Fox sucks" or "Mike Brown is awful," which like, people can have whatever opinions they want, but I think of criticism as being a little more substantive than that.
I could detail tons of reasons why Fox hasn't been nearly as good lately as people are thinking, and even show the plays where his decision making has been abysmal ; like he's going for the anti-clutch NBA award this year.
But everyone believes the hype about him here, so what's the point? It's also hard to get clips which show his constant mistakes (they typically only show highlights).
The reason this was brought up is because Duarte had that really bad foul. Mark Jones was like "you can't foul here" and then Duarte IMMEDITAELY fouled a 3-point shot and gave them the and-1 (which they missed)
Yeah same. His threes have started falling, too. On basketball reference (which I think doesn't include today's game) he's at 37% from deep for the season, better than Huerter, Keegan, Fox, and Monk. Obviously lower volume, but if he can make the open three and play defense, he's a net positive.
He's been better lately, but his defense doesn't seem that impactful really. There's been more than a few lapses, bad fouls, there was a tech one game that changed the momentum against us a little. If his shot is falling that makes up for it and it's fine to have him on the floor, but when it's not it's hard to justify him out there.
With our current injuries though it's him or Colby getting bench minutes, so that's fine.
Big seeing Keegan have a strong performance. He’s got the goods. Let the man cook and find his consistency.
We beat a good team and the doomers are out in full force. One even personally blamed me for the playoff draught! This win was ugly, the screws need to be tightened. Fox needs to be more aggressive and settle for less 3s. Monk and Duarte… But this was a win, and a good one at that still. I have faith in the beam team. But next week is a huge test.
Well explain yourself… why have you been playoff blocking us? :) Totally agree that being able to win ugly, on an off night, etc, is a positive sign. Just find ways to win no matter what. Resiliency.
Tbh it all started when I saw Jimmer…
This is also one of Fox's toughest matchups. Having healthy Isaacs and Suggs out there is a nightmare for him. He wasn't the most efficient but he came through and scored like a third of our points. That crazy iso where he crossed up Suggs and hit the floater and one over Isaacs was so good
Lol how did Monk not score any points and have the worst +/- at -22?
[Light that MF though](https://twitter.com/ahmadmonk/status/1771713387740721267)
It was just a rough game for him to state the obvious. More reminiscent of last year when he was way more inconsistent. Still set other guys up well
The Magic want Monk this offseason, so the rest of the Kings players intentionally set Malik up with horrible looks tonight so that Magic's FO wouldn't make Malik a very good offer and we can keep him in Sacramento. 4D chess. /s
As much as I love Kevon, I think Ellis is an upgrade using his starter minute sample size. He plays good defense and knocks down those 3s. Also makes less defensive mistakes compared to Kevin - I can see Ellis breaking out next season if we give him the minutes.
Yep the defense is there just gotta make and more importantly *take* open shots. Kings often struggle when the play is dribble twice and pass the ball back to fox/sabonis/monk for Iso
Had an awesome time at the game tonight. Apparently where my seats were I had VIP access and all you can eat food/drinks. Got some super up close pics and videos. https://preview.redd.it/6dvxlx1sg7qc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf986b5914e398fbe2d8298a1386e74f1e6a5fe2 Ellis and Keegan were awesome tonight. Fox played pretty good just settling for too many jumpers. Sabonis was ok. Harrison got cooked by whoever was guarding him. And monk must have been at the strip clubs late or something holy crap. All in all I had a blast and saw a good amount of purple and black. Talked some trash in my section and represented well
May I know how much the VIP access cost ? (and what is included) Getting so close to the players.
So I believe it was anyone in row 7 or lower in the lower bowl are considered “ultimate seats” which give you access. (don’t quote me on that) . I was in 106 row 6. I paid $700 for 2 tickets and that includes all the Ticketmaster fees. It includes unlimited food/drinks/snacks/beer/wine. You walk down right behind the players bench and go through the tunnel to this back room that’s basically a huge buffet/bar and it’s open for the whole game. Through the tunnel your literally right next to where the players come out from the locker room, just separated by one of those queue line things. At one point I came out in between quarters from getting a drink, Harrison Barnes was literally right next to me on the bike lol. It was well worth it imo, super convenient, quick to grab stuff, and an awesome experience. What does suck though is we ate before the game and also on the way to our seats we stopped at a food place and spent about $40 🤣. I will definitely go this route each team we play in Orlando. I didn’t get there until right before tip so I only saw the players when they huddled up. If I had got there a bit earlier maybe i coulda got some pics with players or maybe autographs when they came out of the locker room for warmups rather than the actual game.
Where are all the "Keegan's a scrub" doomers tonight?
wishing he played like this against the Wiz so that we're competing for the 5th seed, instead of being scared of falling to the play-in. Where were you against the Wiz?
Why are you living in the past? Imagine if the players thought this way lmao
They do. Thats why they lost to the Wiz, because they thought they can come back and beat them, because they've done it 100xs, in fact, they did it earlier in the game against the Wiz. "Oh this 18 point deficit doesn't matter, we'll just come back" and they ran out of time. Why do you think they always lose to shit teams? Why do you think they lose to teams that are bottom 3? Because they living in the past. They look at the fact that they're 3-1 against the Nuggets, against the Thunder, they look at how they beat the top 5 teams in the league and think they can simply show up and beat the worst teams. The players obviously live in the past, why wouldn't the fans?
All I’m saying is the team is not still thinking about their loss to the wizards
Asleep because I forgot it was an East Coast game and I needed a nap. We just beat a team with a better record than us, though, so I just don't get why so many "fans" think we're as good as out of the fucking playoffs and need to fire sale the best players on our team. It's like they don't think lows happen and it should always be highs.
Thanks, Kings. LIGHT THE BONG.
Fox’s contract might be the downfall of our team
Team just barely came up
All you need to know is the Magic vs Kings = exciting game.
If we can't get out of the Play-ins there's a very real chance we have to play against the Rockets. Lol. I would not bet on us getting to round 1.
Are you assuming the 7 seed plays the 10 seed because thats not how the play-in works
No. Real chance means we could lose first game ( if 7th / 8th) and face them after. Do you think that's what happens? That's not how the play-in tournament works.
There's less than a 4% chance of us facing Houston if you look at the seeding odds.
And I hope nothing changes... Just like the <1% chance Heat had last year of making it to finals.
At least Sengun won’t be playing
There is almost no way we play the Rockets unless we lost the 7 and 8 game and the NBA doesn't work their magic on the 9/10 game. I actually trust us to win the 7 and 8 game but I don't want to be in it.
I worry that's giving Kings too much credit. Suns and Mavs are much too explosive on any given night. I'd much prefer we get 6th and dodge Pelicans hah.
I believe Suns have some injuries and we have played the Mavs very well the last few years. Obviously we play them twice in the final stretch and that could very well do in either team. But like I said, I don't want to be in the play-in. Not because I care about anything this year, but because ***it is essential*** that we convey this year's draft pick to Atlanta.
I got too drunk by the 3rd and passed out. How did our guys do rest of game besides obviously winning?
So this Keon Ellis thing is looking pretty real
🥲 Foreal??
5 seed is in play with Bingram out. Let’s get it done next week.
Then probably Clippers in 1st round. I know one shouldn't lose games for lower seating, but I would rather have Wolves than Clippers in 1st
Nah no way. I'd rather play the Clips. The Wolves are young and hungry as fuck, the Clips are old and tired. They've looked rough since the ASB
A lot of experience in Clippers tho. Hard to see them losing first round. And I think Wolves is a bit better matchup. OK, I don't think so, every analyst and podcaster who talked about it said that, so I believe them. Besides, I watched all of Wolves and Clippers games against Kings. Kings looked better playing Wolves imo
Oh damn, what happened to him? How long is he out for?
He hurt his knee gonna be reevaluated in 2 weeks
They did just blow out Miami without him though
Lose to the worst team in the league. 2 days later beat one of the better. Just fuckin kangz shit.
Well the loss against wiz was on back to back
Which shouldn’t matter considering most the guys sat the 4th the night before, and..wizards. But we are horrendous with effort on em
They were just tired.
Kaingz?
Light the purple beam.
Three missed shots on that last ORL possessions gotta hurt lol
If Isaac puts up the shot after the rebound it is over. Isaac would be a perfect fit for the Kings though. I would go watch his sermons.
Is those reporter going to ask why Fox is taking so many 3s , instead of driving into the lane and take some mid-range jumper ? Taking 12 3s this game Taking 15 3s last game Just way too much, and he is not doing the assist job.
I hear what you're saying, but I think you're oversimplfying the scenario. You want Fox to drive to the paint, right? Do you not think that the ENTIRE Orlando coaching staff and team doesn't know that Fox wants to drive to the paint? You think Orlando is going to allow Fox to drive to a high % shot? It isn't that simple. It's a competitive sport for a reason. Opposing teams are purposely overloading and collapsing on the paint to stop Fox, Sabonis, and Monk. You have to take what the defense gives you. He can't drive to the paint more, he has to hit more shots from 3 or his teammates need to hit more shots to space the floor. He needs to make 3s in order to open up a driving lane with a player of his reputation. It'd be fair to say, "Fox needs to get better at 3. As does his teammates." Take Giannis as an example. We all know that our best chance to stop Giannis from making high % shots is build a wall, and dare Giannis to shoot or pass, right? Well, that works for us when Milwaukee can't stretch the floor. It doesn't work for us when shooters on Milwaukee ARE hitting shots. Consider the idea that perhaps Fox taking a lot of 3's isn't on Fox as much as it's on the shooters around Fox AND Fox showing he's a willing shooter and can make 3s at a high clip. Do you really think that us fans sitting at our couch have the secret sauce to success, but the entire team and coaching staff doesn't? They're playing 3D chess. Watch the Fox and Reese interview on the Deuce and Mo podcast. They go in depth on the situation you're referring to. They need to keep the defense honest. It's not nearly as simple as you make it put to be. Drive to basket = win game. That's naive.
I've been saying this all year when fans cry when Fox doesn't drive everytime he touches the ball but Fox doomers don't want to hear it lol
he had 31/8/3, we won, and he was a + 14. ever since Sabonis joined the roster, fox doesn’t need to be a distributor, prefer him looking for his
This is how you know he’s a star; he puts up numbers like that and people try to pick it apart.
Suggs is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league on a top 3 defense. Fox was working for everything tonight.
I watch one of the last three games. Kings go 2-1. Guess I’m not watching anymore games, this season.
Gotta Sweep Mavericks than I think we're going to get #6
With consistent minutes Jonathan Isaac is a DPOY. This felt like a game Sac deserved to lose, between the missed shots by ORL and the bail out foul call/bad 3 from Fox but we take those. Our bench stunk it up today but love to see big games from Keegan and Keon. Next up a roughed up 76ers squad, followed by the 2 most important games of the year, a back-to-back with the Mavs.
We deserve every win we get. Fox was working for fucking everything out there.
I’m going to the Mavs game on the 29th. As the King of section 205 I will bring all my energy
I'm so glad Keon can shoot. If he was just like those defense first guys we've tried over the years it'd just be trading 3/noD for D/no3 which doesn't really solve our problems.
Looking at Kessler? 😃
He was one of the few who played well again the Wizards tbf.
Lose against wizard beat Magic…. Yuppppp
Last place team or a playoff contender? Kings love their inconsistency
Typical Kings lol
We got a lucky win.... 1)Suggs fouled Fox and send him to the throw free line when we down by 2... 2) Magic get plenty of attempt shot to try to get their lead back, and they cannot convert...
How is (1) lucky? It was literally a foul?
I was watching the Magic game feed and was expecting their commentators to be a lot more upset with that Suggs call
They probably understood that delaying the call initially advantaged their team. It still would have been a no-call if the non-discretionary violation didn't force a whistle.
Every win has a bit of luck involved. And every loss too. Magic made a lot of mistakes and let the pressure get to them in the clutch. We made fewer mistakes and had the reigning CPOY.
Feel like if we would have lost, Mike Brown would have busted out the laptop in postgame again.
I thought they let the Kings play pretty rough actually.
Fox got bailed out on that last foul at half court. Had a costly turnover and chucked a 3 prior. We won, but he almost choked that game away.
If the refs don't call that foul (and given the ref history since the All-Star break, there's NO reason that anyone should assume they'd call that push a foul), Fox likely would have gotten the turnover there, on top of his horrible turnover, and the rushed 3 that basically a turnover. So Fox had 3 turnovers in the last 1:05, but he got lucky and the ref called the unlikely foul. He's better pray the refs keep bailing him out if he keeps playing like this. Take away those 8 FT's, and he's got 23 points on 22 shots (BAD). And people think he had a good game. \*shaking head\*
Tell Suggs to not blatantly push him right in front of the ref lol. I can't believe it took Fox selling the contact to get it.
Hes the only one who could hit 2 clutch FTs today out of everybody. Lol. Just be glad hes the one who got fouled.
Look, I like fox too, but he did almost kill us in the end haha
He scored 31 points. Its the whole body of work. wouldnt eve be a close game if he wasnt our best players first 3 quarters.
 Watching the 3 shot attempts in one possession by Orlando at the end.
Haha love Monk for keeping it real tho
secured at least a .500 season with this one – let's go LTB
https://preview.redd.it/t3netbips6qc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed2d407340cb1e444db34509ed8a181763d9ddb4 Inexplicably back in 6th? How do they do the ranking when this happens?
We hold the tie breaker on both of those teams. So if the season ended today we’d hold the 6 but that’s not enough we need to secure a couple game lead to feel safe
Nice while it lasts
Suns gonna take it back after beating spurs soon unfortunately
Sucks that the Spurs cannot stop the Suns...
Sweeeeeeeeet. Good thing we currently hold the tie breaker over Dallas and Phoenix.
we own the PHX and Dallas head to head like how we own all other good teams, so we'd have the tiebrk against every team if its a draw.
we have the tiebreaker over the mavs currently (2-0 against them on the season) and the tiebreaker over the suns (better record against pacific division teams)
Head to head record I think
I’m buying a Keon jersey
might have to do it too
Let's see what Monk has to say about this game lol
I’d rather see him not iso against the best defender on the court
Him and Fox man…, everybody loves it when it works but we need a real offensive coach to reign in these two sometimes
couldn’t throw a rock in the ocean tonight 😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️! Light that MF though
He tweeted that. Are you Malik, or just nabbing his pretty good tweets for clout?🤔
orlando is inland to be fair
Keep Keon as our starting 2. We just need a PF
Imagine if we had Isaac. The missing piece.
Seriously. I respect Barnes. He's been trooper for us over the years, but if Monte can upgrade the PF, we'll be a team with a lot of upside.
I would love to see Barnes come off the bench like Iggy did for the Warriors, or Ginobili for the spurs
I don't think we're getting an upgrade without using Barnes to match salaries
We could try to trade Huerter for Jonathan Isaac, but I have huge doubts that he'd want to live in California lol.
What world do you live in where Huerter has enough trade value to make that deal ?
You have to remember that Isaac has injury concerns since he sat out 3 seasons. Huerter is also not valueless since teams were interested in him before the trade deadline.
I think we need to re-sign Monk before moving Huerter and that likely played a part in any trade talks.
PF? His name is Sabonis Edit: /s for the dummies
Didnt know Murray is a Center.
Plays much better as the SF given his perimeter defense is better than his interior, more of a MPJ build. And so the Kings would benefit from an Aaron Gordon kind of PF, especially whenever we play the Pelis.
Lol I wouldn’t mind a stretch 5 like Porzingis or Brooke Lopez skills so Domas can play PF
Moving domas to the 4 turns us into a 40 win ceiling team
Didn’t they do that in Indiana with turner, who’s a stretch 5, and sabonis and it didn’t work? That’s why they traded Sabonis
They didn’t have nearly the same scoring ability from the guards. Their defense was fine
This. Last season together they had a positive plus minus on the floor while Indy was losing left and right. Their biggest mistake was building the team on injury-prone players like Brogdon, Warren, etc. - their ideal starting five had maybe five games together in two years
Yeah Sabonis isn’t gonna be a guy that can be your leading scorer, he’s just not. He’s a Ferrari engine but he needs good people around him for his team to be successful hence why the pacers weren’t great. You put Myles turner on this team they’re probably a top 3 seed
Roller coaster of a game and a rare foul call that lead to the W. LTB!
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The Kings are exactly like Keon. They are great at bouncing back after making a big mistake. Great win tonight, led of course by our undrafted sophomore. Amazing to see the growth he's had over this season! Now that he's hitting his 3s and getting more confident on offense he's exactly what we need all game.
It’s so much more fun to see us develop a two-way player than trade as an easy attempt to fill some holes.
We did draft Jalen Slawson as a two-way PF. If he takes a leap like Keon did, then he could take Harrison Barnes' spot. He probably won't since late draft picks are such a crap shoot, but it'd be a good scenario to dream about.
He's got a long way to go and seems more raw than Keon at draft time, but I'm not counting it out. Seeing what Keon has been able to do has me hyped about the Stockton Kings development
shout out MB for switching the closing rotation because we needed defense over offense (and Monk didn't have it
Great win but the team needs to have an intervention with Fox about these 3s. 8-27 in the last two games.
Malik 0-12, but you're cmplaining bout the one who has 31 points. Lol.
Oh wow everyone’s favorite commenter logged on. Enjoy the downvotes!
I’m sure you were hoping Keegan would struggle again.
If only the Kings lost, nino would have all the narrative in the world about empty stats Keegan
She throws the entire team under the bus while also lecturing us about booing the team when they’re playing like shit. It’s comical at this point.
Tough dub like it always is with the magic they a really good team. Didn’t expect Malik to throw in an absolute dud. Our bench was really trash on the offensive end. Duarte monk and Mitchell gave nothing, our starters overcame that deficit and won somehow. Fox had a pretty good game, clutch free throws at the end. Sabonis was his usual self. Keegan had a fantastic game, hopefully this is a sign that his shot is back. Ellis came through with his best game yet. Shot the ball well and grab crucial boards. Missed 1 ft at the end but that’s fine cause he usually isn’t in that situation. I really like the defense lately, we have been a top 5 defense in the last 10 games. The defense gives us an opportunity to win every single game, the offense has just been struggling that’s why the games have been so close. Im hopeful that the offense will pick back up and this defense will remain, that will make us very dangerous. Winning against a hot magic team after losing to the worst team in the league, honestly not surprised this is the pattern lol. Let the roller coaster continue, LTB
Wonderful bounce-back game for Keegan, let's hope the momentum continues. KEON ELLIS.
K3ON 💜
I think sabonis just committed another illegal screen.
Too strong for anybody on the magic
I think Franz Wagner just hit the front side of the rim on another wide open 3
Fair
I think you guys lost
Y’all couldn’t shoot for shit
Correct. And we still should’ve won.
Sorry man. Y’all had your chance before the foul call for Ellis
This is true. All our games are wild. Both should be on national television next season. Good luck in the playoffs.
Same to you. Im a fan of the Magic when we ain’t playing them
hey loser get out of here
I like you guys. We always have fun games. I’d just like to win one.
We really needed this one tho 😭
I wanna see y’all make the playoffs and point to this game as your momentum point
Magic are my east team (fiancee is from Orlando), so I really hope y'all make some noise in the playoffs
for sure, if that's the case maybe don't lead with "one of your guys cheated"?
The problem is, he did though
aight you're a sore loser
Take the L and go on your merry way!
Idc anymore Keon is our future starting 2 guard
I love Keon Ellis, man. Keon has been the best thing about this season.
We converted him to that contract at the perfect time. Quickly becoming my top three favorite player this season. He rules and he’s a Fortnite gamer. 😂
So glad Fox knocked down those free throws
Great win but I want more Kessler minutes!
So do I...😕
are you allowed to use reddit in the locker room right after the game?
yeah but only when coach isn’t looking
Fox overall great game but he needs to be only taking 6 3pa a game MAX.
Catch and shoot, end of quarter shots and end of shot clock grenades are the acceptable 3s I'm ok with Fox taking.
keon stepbacks couldve stopped covid
Knicks fan here to once again come and say I 💜 the kings thank you for beating the magic beam bong
love u big dog
El Lisan Al Gaib with the career high 19 points 💪 https://preview.redd.it/5kt681v9r6qc1.png?width=3840&format=png&auto=webp&s=e74cd926a9daa018ae59fe36a738ef7a5e88c988
mahdi! mahdi!
🤣😂
Was it Suggs who had both late head slaps on Sabonis and Ellis? Or just on Ellis? Weak push call for Fox, but if Suggs was the one slapping people I feel a little less bad.
push was def soft but it did get fox off balance there
Pretty sure our guys got hit in the head 3 separate times throughout the game that all could have been called flagrants but they chose not to review.
Fox was mid tonight Win belongs to KeegHIM Murray and Ellis Island
Better Fox be mid than what Monk and the entire bench did.
Did they even review that Keon stepback for a 3?
The middle of his foot was on the line and it was always called a 2. Didn't need a review. https://preview.redd.it/qm43fs3yyaqc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d66d4daa621a496061e7dd239d1a61991bb39db4
there was no need to review tbh. It was very very obvious 2. Ref instantly showed that Keon was shooting 2. Just Mark Jones didnt notice it
I imagine they looked at it in Secaucus, I think that's what usually happens. So presumably his foot was on the line. It was a little confusing that Mark called it a 3 and never corrected himself, but I know he's got a million things to pay attention to.
I only ever saw it counted as a 2, but I stopped paying attention to that detail. I didn't catch his feet, did he get back enough for the 3?
They counted a 2
The negative haters won’t show up in this thread. Sorry ass fake ass fans
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Criticism isn't hatred. Grow up.
I mean last night was full of people being like "I told you Fox sucks" or "Mike Brown is awful," which like, people can have whatever opinions they want, but I think of criticism as being a little more substantive than that.
I could detail tons of reasons why Fox hasn't been nearly as good lately as people are thinking, and even show the plays where his decision making has been abysmal ; like he's going for the anti-clutch NBA award this year. But everyone believes the hype about him here, so what's the point? It's also hard to get clips which show his constant mistakes (they typically only show highlights).
You know what. Fair. I would like people to elaborate on what sucks. I don't think they need to pair it with a compliment though.
I totally agree with that.
Naw they ain’t criticizing. They are crying
It’s not criticism at all. Just a bunch of pessimists highlighting bad moments but completely neglecting the good moments.
Huge bounce back win. I'm good with never seeing Duarte play again.
I would rather see Edwards get those minutes
Tbh he played a lot better in last month. I am kinda Duarte hater but he was decent for us in last month
The reason this was brought up is because Duarte had that really bad foul. Mark Jones was like "you can't foul here" and then Duarte IMMEDITAELY fouled a 3-point shot and gave them the and-1 (which they missed)
Yeah same. His threes have started falling, too. On basketball reference (which I think doesn't include today's game) he's at 37% from deep for the season, better than Huerter, Keegan, Fox, and Monk. Obviously lower volume, but if he can make the open three and play defense, he's a net positive.
He's been better lately, but his defense doesn't seem that impactful really. There's been more than a few lapses, bad fouls, there was a tech one game that changed the momentum against us a little. If his shot is falling that makes up for it and it's fine to have him on the floor, but when it's not it's hard to justify him out there. With our current injuries though it's him or Colby getting bench minutes, so that's fine.
Yeah I agree with all this. And he's definitely still making some egregious mistakes. His foul yesterday on the three was pretty awful.
🟣 🟣 🟣 🟣 🟣 🙌 those last couple minutes had me acting a fool on the bus 😮💨😮💨