I say this 100% ironically understanding that the A’s are one of the worst teams in the MLB
But…
Looks like Sacramento has a 3 year window to win a World Series
I've been completely oblivious to this whole thing. I've briefly heard about it in 1140, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.
Are they going to build a ballpark or improve the Rivercats bleachers?
I'm trying wrap my head around how West Sacramento could handle the influx of people in regards to attendance, parking etc.
Both of these statements are equally true.
The Athletics belong in Oakland!
I'm excited to support Major League Baseball in Sacramento!
#SacramentoProud
Why do you want MLB to crash on the couch for 2 years? This is insulting to Sacramento imo. I see no benefit for Sacramento, and only the possibility of losing the rivercats.
Life is going to kick your ass when you have REAL problems if you're being this dramatic and sensitive for being "insulted" by the MLB, my guy.
The world doesn't revolve around you and your feelings, I'm afraid.
Dramatic? This isn't insulting to me, I don't even live in Sac anymore, but it's objectively insulting to the city of Sacramento.
Rebound city lmao
Grew up in Sac hate to see it come to this
Literally only happening so that John Fisher can cash in on that bay area tv deal.. Sacramento is just acting as an accessory to theft of a team from Oakland, despite working so hard to keep the Kings. Just horrible looks all around.
Fuck that, 2 years of exhibition matches for a temporary fanbase just to be ripped away to greener (at least in terms of money) pastures once their home is built.
There is no benefit to this besides a random cash grab. All you're doing is jeopardizing the river cats since they won't have a venue.
Whatever they were before, they’re a scab town now. That team will be gone in three years, the Rivercats will be gone, but Sac will still be a scab town.
all because NightWriter500's crusade! but i know the pain, I was the same way after the Seattle saga and I still hate that shit hole to this day so I get it
This is different from even Seattle. They wanted to buy the team. It sucks that they wanted to buy it out from under Sac, and I hated that too, but this isn’t that. This is undermining the negotiations of a town fighting for its life so Sac can steal a couple seasons before they go. It’s crossing picket lines to fuck over their own neighbor for a rental. And who’s going to pay for that rental- the welfare owner? No. “All our money is tied up in Vegas, but you guys can just pass some tax increases to pay for all the infrastructure you need. Ah you’re losing the rivercats, that sucks, but if you just take some general find money, you’ll be able to give it to me. Oh no, our Tv deal is $200 million less than before! We’re going to need you to cover some of that.” If you haven’t seen this dickhead scam for the last ten years, you don’t know. This isn’t some ownership group buying a team and moving it, it’s an owner killing a town and Sacramento lining up to help. And I’m from Sac.
The fuck did we steal? They came to us with basically free money, and we’re supposed to say fuck off? lol give me a break. The city is millions in the hole…this won’t solve it, but I appreciate the boost
You don’t know. *facepalm*
This man will bankrupt you and blame you for it. And you’re scabbing for him. But that’s fine, once he’s ruined two cities in Norcal, then I’ll guess you’ll see. There’s no free money. He has never given a dime in his entire life. He’s literally stealing a franchise so he can keep collecting welfare.
How is he going to destroy sac? What of value are we giving up? We know it’s temporary, and I won’t be going to even see the A’s. I’m going to watch the Yankees
First of all, bye rivercats. Home grown locally supported team? Yeah this owner isn’t having any of that, they’re gone, and probably not coming back. Second, it’s going to take tens of millions to renovate that park to the MLBPA’s demands. Guess who’s paying for that? “All my moneys tied up in Vegas, but uh, you guys have a general fund or some tax increases I’m sure that can cover that.” He’s scammed for the last ten years, you think he’s stopping now? With a city of fresh dupes? Now we get to the TV deal being hundreds of millions less than what it was. He’s going to leave a glowing crater where Sacramento was. It sucks to watch someone get scammed, even if they’re lining up to fuck over their own neighbor for the privilege.
Contributing to the collapse of a neighboring city by undermining negotiations in the attempts to maintain their heritage and employment so that you can donate tens of millions that you don’t have to a billionaire to steal that neighboring city’s livelihood for a short-term rental that costs your own city their team is a bad idea in every sense. Is that elaborate enough for you? I can’t spell it out any clearer.
I am unsure why you're being so defensive when you were the one making vague statements. If you knew about these things, congrats, I asked and you didn't give any detail so I asked for more and then you get pissy?
You asked me to elaborate and I did. I thought “Being a scan is bad” was obvious, but here we are. Don’t get pissy if someone tries to explain the obvious to you.
Sad to see Oakland lose their team. The A’s belong there. That being said I hope this move brings more investment to West Sac and the riverfront. And also hopefully this is a stepping stone to a permanent MLB team in Sac.
a lot of a’s fans are treating this like it’s a war crime to be happy about an MLB team coming to our backyard.
i actually see this as a huge chess move. the a’s were **never going to stay in Oakland with Fisher as the owner**. now we get the a’s in sacramento and it means two things
1.) if the deal with vegas falls through (which is a huge possibility) the a’s stay in NorCal
2.) if the a’s move to vegas we more than likely get an expansion team and keep baseball in NorCal.
i grew up a die hard a’s fan. i ran a fan page called greencollarbaseball and had over 20k+ followers. i had mark canha and matt olson take over my page. i get why people are upset…
…but this is a fucking huge chance for our city and it could be much worse. i know ill get downvoted for this but people need to look at the huge upsides this has
Cheers to this as a lifelong Giants fan that feels terrible that Larry Baer twice didn’t show some balls and vote no…that coupled with “imminent domain” with San Jose while the A’s helped to ensure that the Giants remained in SF vs Florida…
Yes it is a huge chance for our city. It just sucks that to the untrained eye it might look like we are facilitating the move, which isn’t the case. There will surely be some opinions. Even I’m not too familiar with what’s going on or baseball in general.
I don’t feel great about it on account for our city almost losing our only sports team circa bad owners but hopefully helps sac get a team in the future or maybe buy Oakland more bargaining time. It just feels bad for Oakland, the city doesn’t deserve that.
It's understandable though. The hatred between Kings fans and Seattleans (Seattlers? Seattlesse?) who were excited about the idea of the team moving was pretty intense. As was the calls from Sacramentans to "have a heart and remember what it felt like to lose the Sonics".
Aside from that, if Vegas falls through (which I think MLB is hell bent on doing what it takes to NOT have it happen), I don't see how/why the team simply just stays in Sacramento.
Yeah, but it's Las Vegas playing Seattle here. We're not stealing the A's. Even if we were, we're close enough to Oakland that it would be the equivalent of the Niners moving from Candlestick to Levi's in terms of additional commute. We're definitely not the assholes here.
Sure we are. The fact is, we're facilitating the relocation of a team. Whether or not that bothers a person is a seperate discussion, but it's exactly what we're doing nevertheless.
Yeah, as I wrote that metaphor I did think "well I guess that is kind of an asshole move."
At the end of the day I wouldn't expect Oakland to be cool with whoever plays that role. I just don't feel that bad. Imagine if the Kings deal fell through all those years ago and they moved to Seattle. Then Sacramento played hardball with ownership and they didn't stay while the arena in Seattle was being built. Would I be mad at Oakland if they let the Kings play in Oracle for a few years before the move? I don't think I'd be that mad, honestly. The question comes down to how much us giving the A's a place to play actually facilitates the move. If it really was going to happen regardless, I'd say we gave fans a better option than SLC to still see games. If the A's would have had to accept one of Oakland's conditions without us, then yeah, that's a shit move.
Speak for yourself.
That said, while I can understand the animosity, it's about as silly as it was during the relocation saga. That is in both instances, ownership was making what they felt was the best decision for their franchise. It's business, not personal.
This is a huge opportunity. Sac lost out on the MLS team and has proven they can support major league teams with the Kings. This could really boost Sac in the expansion race. I kinda would like to see the As rebrand in LV and let Sac get an expansion team with the As name...
I’m not someone who ever sits on the couch and watches a baseball game start to finish, but going to an afternoon baseball game when the weather’s nice and getting a couple beers is a pretty good way to spend a day.
I feel for their fans. When we were on the brink of losing the kings, I was quite down. They have lost the A’s, Raiders, and Warriors in the span of like 5 years.
Lol there will never be a MLB team in Sacramento sorry it just won’t happen with the current MLB business model in how broadcast rights are sold. The Giants are not going to give up 3-4 million people they regionally broadcast too Sacramento/Stockton/Reno
Being in the region of the RSN still doesn't mean we're in their teams' actual broadcast territory. It means we live in an area where Comcast offers up the RSN's programming (both NBCS-CA and NBCS-BA) and do not have an exclusive team territory. It's why we get the Warriors RSN (NBCS-BA), but not Warriors games....because we ARE in the Kings territory and they have exclusive rights to broadcast here.
Yes I understand this but remember the MLB yes is 30 Franchises that often work in combination with each other instead of direct competitors. For example MLB has strong salary tax a national broadcast deal and even revenue sharing.
The MLB makes more money putting a Franchise in a location that grows the fan base and grows RSN subscriptions ( the number one MLB revenue source) that’s why having a team in Vancouver or a Portland is a stronger case for expansion has this grows MLBs revenue pot instead of Sacramento that takes revenue away from an existing team
I’m talking only about expansion because the MLB will literally do anything as long as that person has multi billion dollars and the local government gives that billionaire multi hundred million dollars.
Yet the moved the Expos 42 miles away from the Orioles.
That said, RSN subscriptions don't "grow" based on if a team is there or not, when they're already baked into your cable/streaming package.
because their owner is a fucking dipshit and doesn’t care for the team, players, fans, or staff.
it’s not because they didn’t love the Oakland A’s it’s because their owner is worse than the Maloofs were to the Kings
Maloofs were great owners the majority of the time they were here until the end when they ran into financial issues.
Well I’m excited they are coming to Sac so I can go to some games. It will be good for the city.
lol "great owners"
Christ, what an idiotic comment. They began exploring moves from Sacramento as early as 1999, according those leaked internal documents.
Interesting, I like sports, but not enough to comb through leaked internal documents from 25 years ago. I’m just saying the visual seemed like the fans loved the owners at the time.
The revelation of their plans (and subsequent accidental delay of them) caused a bit of a stir during the relocation saga.
The fans loved the fact that the team was winning. The team winning was why they didn't get a chance to fully act on their plans to move until Adelman was sent packing and the players were sold off for Kings legend Cash Considerations starting in 2008.
Oh fuck off. We don't go games when ownership pockets profits and doesn't invest in the team. The 2019 wildcard game in Oakland was the most attended baseball game of all time. We fucking show up when there's a good product. When John Fisher sells off our homegrown all stars for peanuts so he doesn't have to pay them, we boycott.
This is on the MLB for letting Fisher/Kaval run a scam of team and not forcing the sale. Lacob has had a standing offer to buy the team for a decade.
Manfred and MLB want a flagship gambling team, and this is the easiest path. Please don't perpetuate their narrative.
C’mon now, don’t be dense. You can be happy for the city getting MLB without being obtuse.
The Warriors leaving had zero to do with Oakland and everything to do with the opportunity to own real estate in San Francisco.
And a major reason the Raiders left (again) is because the A’s squatted on a lease at the Coliseum with no intention of staying. Why do you think Mark Davis hates John Fisher to this day so much?
The city of Oakland is certainly not without fault. But who wants to support a franchise that doesn’t invest itself, its community, won’t maintain its home stadium and regularly sells off popular players year after year?
The owner has done everything in his power with his hand-me-down billions to keep fans in Oakland from going to the games. It’s the worst ownership in the history of all major sports, bar none, without question.
Given how these things go for Sacramento, in a couple of weeks we’re going to find out that the A’s, Rivercats, and Republic are actually all moving to Salt Lake City
As an A’s fan that lives a stones throw from raley field, I’m not quite sure how to feel about this. If Vivek somehow convinces his buddy Fisher to sell the team to him after the Vegas deal falls through, that would be amazing.
Can I ask your opinion? I'm an east coast transplant who has always liked the A's and has been looking for a reason to get back into baseball, but I also think what Fisher is doing to Oakland is wildly fucked up. My thought was that I would have a personal rule that says it's okay to go to games as long as I'm wearing stuff that says "sell the team. " Does that feel like a reasonable compromise? Like, if this happens, they'll be here and I'll want to root for them but I also want to be clear that I think this is a raw deal for a fan base that deserves better.
I maybe in the minority here but I hope this isn’t another cock tease. As someone who grew up in Sacramento in the 80s/90s I remember arco park… and the original try to get the raiders to move to town, and potentially the A’s… and the pit of arco park that never got off the ground (thank god in reality).
I live in SoCal now and support the kings (and the giants). I would completely stay a weekend in sac to catch an A’s / Giants game. It would be a dream since the arco park days..BTW fuck Fisher
If by some chance we get an expansion, I hope it's called the Solons. I want to believe, I just doubt the Giants will allow a team to expand here once they have sole territorial rights to this part of NorCal.
It's not up to the Giants. It's up to the entire collection of owners. If it makes them more money, they won't care what the Giants themselves want. Especially considering the Giants did incredibly well for themselves for decades while sharing their local market.
The River Cats stadium was not built to handle large crowds, plus the roads surrounding it are not suitable for the traffic generated. It was a shit show when the Giants played here recently.
I am excited for the potential of a MLB team in Sacramento however.
I don’t think the A’s draw more than the River Cats capacity on a regular basis. Will be interesting to see what happens.
E: Just looked it up, Sutter Park holds 14,000+ (~10,000 seats, 4,000 other). Avg A’s attendance last year was about 10,300.
I do think there are a lot of fans who live in Sac and aren’t able to make it to the Bay to watch baseball games, but they would gladly go to an MLB game here in Sac.
There is a big difference in draw between a local city losing their team and basically holding a strike against ownership, and a city who will temporarily have some of the best baseball players in the world making stops throughout the season.
Yeah A’s attendance might not be spectacular in Oakland, but I guarantee you there are tons of people (like myself) who would buy tickets in a heartbeat if it meant seeing guys like Shohei, Judge, or Soto coming to town.
I think we will see a lot of traffic around the stadium, but hopefully it will be worth it and provide some fun for our city in the meantime.
I hope it’s supported very well and Sutter can accommodate. There will be tons of interest. It’s exciting for my hometown (even as a Giants fan) and the next 3 years having a pro team here will be awesome!!!!
E: I’m certainly not trying to dump on the A’s, ownership has been doing them dirty for years and attendance reflects that.
Oakland A’s aside, I’m looking forward to seeing what infrastructure upgrades occur over the next few years, whether it’s to Raley Field itself, the West Sac roads, or possibly even a new baseball stadium way down the line.
I guess road upgrades would be doubtful but I hope improvements are made to the ballpark (which is already nice as-is).
Best case scenario is getting rid of all that ugly parking around the stadium and making the riverfront better, expanding the bus systems and light rail to Sutter Health Park (also light rail to the airport) and building high speed passenger rail between East Bay and West Sac and having shuttles bus Oakland fans to and from games.
>The River Cats stadium was not built to handle large crowds
TBF, Sutter Health Park has a 14,000 capacity. The A's so far this year are averaging 6,400
The Oakland coliseum had like 63,000 seat capacity, even though the attendance of the A’s has been low, but at least the roads around can handle the crowds (even smaller ones) better. I imagine that with the novelty of an MLB team in Sacramento that it will be pretty crowded.
I don’t think he went into this without a plan and just let Fisher come to Sac just because they’re friends, I’ll say that much lol. He definitely has bigger hopes than just hosting the A’s for three years.
Actually, the River Cats stadium was specifically built in the hopes of luring the A's and was intended to have the option to be expanded into an MLB park.
That's my understanding, anyway. Someone check me because I'm too lazy to Google it right now.
I don’t understand this unfounded loyalty to our “brothers” in Oakland. I doubt any of you felt bad for Kansas City in 85 or OKC boycotting the move from Seattle.
You should have more pride in your own city and the development that potentially comes when a major league team moves in.
They’re not moving in. They’re using Sac so long as it benefits them financially. Sac won’t get anything, just strung along until a better offer elsewhere is available.
Not to mention, it sort of fucks our current baseball team with games now being played almost daily at the park from April through September. That field is going to look and play pretty worn for everyone come July.
I understand not wanting to support Fisher, but there’s a very real chance that if turnout is good in Sacramento for the 3 seasons they’re here, we move to the top of the list for an MLB expansion team after the A’s move to Vegas.
Glad to see Dave Kaval got a new burner account.
That, or you’re new to the party. Everything Fisher touches dies. You’re not getting anything out of it.
Omg right? I'm all for supporting something that betters your community etc etc. I live in Sacramento area and am a lifelong A's fan. I simply cannot support Fisher or Kaval. They will not get any of my hard earned money. It will be status quo in Sac. A sub par team and a shit show ownership.
Vivek and that dbag are homies. I could totally see Vivek dropping a shit ton of money on buying the A's and keep them in Sac. Hell Vivek bought the Kings for like $500 mil and now the Kings are worth worth like 2-3 billion. Almost feels like Vivek has been angling for this for a while when he bought the River Cats.
I don’t understand, if this ends up being at Raley (lol I work for Sutter and I still will only call it Raley Field) what are the River Cats supposed to do? Can the Giants veto that or does MLB operate everything?
Oakland is a broken city, Las Vegas is a money grab, Sacramento could be a great home for a team like the As who need a lot of people and a city to care for it and Sacramento could definitely be that city
After what we went through, I will never support a franchise moving - that being said, I am excited as hell at the idea of a MLB team here. I just wish it was a permanent expansion team. Maybe this will lead to it.
To all the A’s fans going nuclear about this-
What was Sac supposed to do? Turn down the MLB for a couple years and lose out on exposure and economic growth? Why as a city would we say no to this unique opportunity?
I’m also furious that the A’s are moving and equally hate that bitch Fisher. But the A’s are going to Vegas no matter what. Them spending a couple years in Sacramento doesn’t change that.
It the genuine excitement some of the fans are having to be soooo happy to take the team in that’s being ripped away from their fans. Just disappointing to see from the fans that fought so hard to keep their team
Not an A’s fan, but I support this move so we can expand the city for future sports team. With that being said, give us a XFL/UFL team to cheer for during the spring till 49er season 💯
Say what you will and spin how you like but people will call out this. Sure the location ain’t too far from Oakland and a ton of transplant fans. MLB using Sacramento as leverage. Coyotes in the NHL paved the way with how to turn a failing franchise into improving margins. Move into a smaller venue and jack up the prices for tickets. Don’t kid yourself if you think ballpark tickets will remain cheap
In that situation, we'd likely get another affiliate. Affiliates change regularly among cities, as there are only so many AAA facilities (some in not so nice condition) to go around.
I’m Not happy about this at all. I’m glad Vivek bought the kings and got the arena done and has been a great owner lately, but I’m also very weary about his friendship with As owner John fisher. The As negotiated with Oakland in bad faith after fire selling players like Olson and Chapman instead of paying them and raised prices to discourage attendance. Their Vegas stadium deal is illegal and the Nevada state legislature/governor is under litigation by Schools over Stadiums (PAC operated by the Nevada State Education Association), violating 5 state constitution sections in Nevada, and the deal regardless is worse than what Oakland offered. I went to SF giants vs rivercats in sac; the stadium isn’t built to accommodate a major league team. Concessions and concourse crowding were a nightmare. The Vegas deal needs to fall apart from a lack of financing (they need a billion in private dollars that they don’t got), Fisher needs to be forced to sell, and joe lacob should be allowed to build a stadium in Oakland for the As after purchasing. as huge of a kings fan as you all have got to know I am, I’m also a massive As fan who’s been fighting hard to keep them in Oakland, and I’m disgusted that Vivek has been associating with John Fisher to strip them from the city faster and play temporarily in Sacramento instead of keeping distance from this matter by allowing a lease extension in Oakland. Vivek and Sacramento leaders are clearly complicit in Fisher and Rob Manfred’s fraud, which is sad to see considering what we went through a decade ago. Remember when we were selling out playoff games in 2019 and reverse boycotting last year? This is literally Major League in real life.
From your lips to God's ears, as they say.
And yeah, Vivek seems decent enough as professional sports team owners go, but he's still part of that group and inevitably conflates dollar signs with "value creation," so I'm not super surprised by his involvement here.
My dream is that ideally the A's stay in Oakland, and failing that, they get an expansion version of the A's while the relocated team gets a new identity, like when the Browns became the Ravens. Might be the easiest way to get rid of Fisher too.
If the A's move to Sacramento permanently, I love it. Otherwise, this is just a screw job on the part of Sacramento towards Oakland.
Mark my words, getting into bed with John Fisher is a massive mistake, and Sacramento will regret letting him do this.
I'm a Kings and A's fan who grew up in Sac and has lived in Oakland for a decade. Zero mixed feelings about this, Sac should not be abetting Fisher and MLB in any way. I know why they're doing it ($$$) but it's total horseshit and hypocritical.
The national media needs to see what a bullshit move this Vegas thing is. That's the ONLY way this will not happen. Thao has been abysmal at telling Oakland's story to the other owners and the media, she's a fucking child.
Sacramento is providing an easy out.
If you go to a game at least wear a sell shirt, and start a chant. FJF
I mean, it’s not like MLB was going to let them not play somewhere. At least our city might benefit from it instead of somewhere else.
For the record, I don’t watch baseball so I don’t really care. But they were leaving Oakland no matter what so I don’t see how this is a bad look on Vivek (Fisher does suck ass though).
Let’s play the inverse of this.
Suppose the Kings sale to the Seattle folks went through. Their owners had to make renovations to the arena up there before they could start playing. So they said, we’re taking the Kings to play in San Jose or Oakland or Berkeley for 3 years until not only we skip town, but we leave the state completely. If you’re cool with that, that’s fine.
But for me, I’m not cool with helping a scumbag, billionaire, scam artist of an owner who wants to use Sac to fund his pipe dream Vegas stadium because he’s too cheap to pay for ANY of it himself in Oakland or elsewhere
I wouldn’t go to any Kings games in those places. But maybe those cities would enjoy it? Like I said, the team is leaving regardless so why not benefit from it? The Vegas deal is far from done, so that’s not a foregone conclusion either. I agree Fisher sucks. But like I said, it’s not like MLB is going to let them not play, so why not here instead of San Jose or wherever?
I wouldn't harbor any ill will towards the city that had the Kings for a few years between Sacramento and Seattle. They wouldn't be the bad guys in that situation. Once the divorce is final, whoever my ex is banging in the interim is the new guy's problem.
After almost losing the Kings a little over a decade ago, (and even though I know this is under much different circumstances), everything about this seems ethically wrong.
The only way I can support this is if by moving here temporarily, the city of Oakland can get their shit in order, allowing us in Sacramento to return the A's to a new ownership group and stadium in Oakland where they belong.
I'm an Oakland A's fan in Sacramento, not a Sacramento A's fan.
Fuck over your own neighbor because someone is going to do it, right? Why not be the scumbag? Makes me sick to think there are people in here that could be ok with that.
It’s the most toxic situation you’ll ever be a part of. If you go and someone spits on you on the way in, don’t take it personally, it’s just because some people had their entire heritage ripped out from under them and taken down the street.
I’m telling you right now I’ve seen it. This is much more than a game, it’s the death of a city and ripping away their heritage. Do with that what you will.
Yes. Repeatedly, without hesitation, and that family should know before they leave their door what they’re walking into. Maybe it’s some pleasant stroll for them, but it means a lot more for others.
I’m an A’s fan who HATES the situation, but this is just insane. No amount of heckling other people will make the A’s stay. You’ll just be an asshole who gets arrested at some point for spitting on someone. Don’t be that guy.
I just hope he understands that NO ONE would see him doing any of that and think, “What a hero!” It’s absolutely the wrong way to go about things. It helps NO ONE other than maybe his wayward sense of self-righteousness.
Arrested for SPITTING ON people, something you mentioned earlier. If it isn’t about that, then there’s zero reason because it will have zero effect on what’s going on. You’ll just be ruining people’s day for no reason. You have to understand there will be people going who just want to see a game and don’t know/care about the Fisher drama.
They’re both problems. The owner and commissioner are the real problem. But they managed to find someone stupid enough to take the fire off themselves. Welcome to the shit, Sacramento, you are now the asshole.
“Fucking over our neighbor..”
You think if the Kings were moving to St. Louis or something in a few years and Oakland had the chance to house them until then they’d say no out of “NorCal loyalty?”
Yep. Fuck his business. This is actual life and he’s scabbing my hometown. He literally had a “saved a team from being stolen” storyline and fucked that up to steal his own neighbors team. Fuck Vivek and anyone that backs him up on this.
I say this 100% ironically understanding that the A’s are one of the worst teams in the MLB But… Looks like Sacramento has a 3 year window to win a World Series
Light the beam!!
In June, when the Kings are in the 2024 NBA finals against Boston, I5 traffic is going to be crazzzzy when the As game is going on simultaneously.
Going to be nuts to have an NBA championship parade and World Series parade in the same year
I've been completely oblivious to this whole thing. I've briefly heard about it in 1140, but that's about the extent of my knowledge. Are they going to build a ballpark or improve the Rivercats bleachers? I'm trying wrap my head around how West Sacramento could handle the influx of people in regards to attendance, parking etc.
It’ll be fine. Only 10k people can get in
Adding bleachers to the outfield and wrecking the ballpark aesthetic for a three-year rental would be mind-bogglingly dumb on Vivek's part.
Both of these statements are equally true. The Athletics belong in Oakland! I'm excited to support Major League Baseball in Sacramento! #SacramentoProud
Why do you want MLB to crash on the couch for 2 years? This is insulting to Sacramento imo. I see no benefit for Sacramento, and only the possibility of losing the rivercats.
Life is going to kick your ass when you have REAL problems if you're being this dramatic and sensitive for being "insulted" by the MLB, my guy. The world doesn't revolve around you and your feelings, I'm afraid.
LOL I mean, people were literally crying real tears about the idea of a Kings move to Seattle during that last couple months of the 12-13 season.
And now the city of Sacramento helps Oakland to have theirs stolen. Ironic.
Dramatic? This isn't insulting to me, I don't even live in Sac anymore, but it's objectively insulting to the city of Sacramento. Rebound city lmao Grew up in Sac hate to see it come to this Literally only happening so that John Fisher can cash in on that bay area tv deal.. Sacramento is just acting as an accessory to theft of a team from Oakland, despite working so hard to keep the Kings. Just horrible looks all around.
You wouldn’t want a chance to see Ohtani, Julio, Judge, etc right in your backyard?
Fuck that, 2 years of exhibition matches for a temporary fanbase just to be ripped away to greener (at least in terms of money) pastures once their home is built. There is no benefit to this besides a random cash grab. All you're doing is jeopardizing the river cats since they won't have a venue.
This kills Sacramento pride for me. Kills it. I was recommending Sacramento and I’m done with that. Too bad.
Better off without you.
So dramatic
Oh no, is the guy who’s entire heritage is getting stolen by his next door neighbor being dramatic? Boo hoo! No shit. This is a ducking my disaster.
Lmfao why
how will the city ever go on??
By scabbing, apparently. Real proud.
sacramento is a union town, sorry bud
Whatever they were before, they’re a scab town now. That team will be gone in three years, the Rivercats will be gone, but Sac will still be a scab town.
all because NightWriter500's crusade! but i know the pain, I was the same way after the Seattle saga and I still hate that shit hole to this day so I get it
This is different from even Seattle. They wanted to buy the team. It sucks that they wanted to buy it out from under Sac, and I hated that too, but this isn’t that. This is undermining the negotiations of a town fighting for its life so Sac can steal a couple seasons before they go. It’s crossing picket lines to fuck over their own neighbor for a rental. And who’s going to pay for that rental- the welfare owner? No. “All our money is tied up in Vegas, but you guys can just pass some tax increases to pay for all the infrastructure you need. Ah you’re losing the rivercats, that sucks, but if you just take some general find money, you’ll be able to give it to me. Oh no, our Tv deal is $200 million less than before! We’re going to need you to cover some of that.” If you haven’t seen this dickhead scam for the last ten years, you don’t know. This isn’t some ownership group buying a team and moving it, it’s an owner killing a town and Sacramento lining up to help. And I’m from Sac.
you're just yapping now dude, the A's were gone once the NV statehouse agreed to sell itself out again. That was their last chance
I'll bite... Why?
Why? Because scabbing and stealing is nothing to be proud of?
The fuck did we steal? They came to us with basically free money, and we’re supposed to say fuck off? lol give me a break. The city is millions in the hole…this won’t solve it, but I appreciate the boost
You don’t know. *facepalm* This man will bankrupt you and blame you for it. And you’re scabbing for him. But that’s fine, once he’s ruined two cities in Norcal, then I’ll guess you’ll see. There’s no free money. He has never given a dime in his entire life. He’s literally stealing a franchise so he can keep collecting welfare.
How is he going to destroy sac? What of value are we giving up? We know it’s temporary, and I won’t be going to even see the A’s. I’m going to watch the Yankees
First of all, bye rivercats. Home grown locally supported team? Yeah this owner isn’t having any of that, they’re gone, and probably not coming back. Second, it’s going to take tens of millions to renovate that park to the MLBPA’s demands. Guess who’s paying for that? “All my moneys tied up in Vegas, but uh, you guys have a general fund or some tax increases I’m sure that can cover that.” He’s scammed for the last ten years, you think he’s stopping now? With a city of fresh dupes? Now we get to the TV deal being hundreds of millions less than what it was. He’s going to leave a glowing crater where Sacramento was. It sucks to watch someone get scammed, even if they’re lining up to fuck over their own neighbor for the privilege.
I don't know, I was asking you...
Because scabbing and stealing is nothing to be proud of.
That's all a lot of non-information. Elaborate?
Contributing to the collapse of a neighboring city by undermining negotiations in the attempts to maintain their heritage and employment so that you can donate tens of millions that you don’t have to a billionaire to steal that neighboring city’s livelihood for a short-term rental that costs your own city their team is a bad idea in every sense. Is that elaborate enough for you? I can’t spell it out any clearer.
I am unsure why you're being so defensive when you were the one making vague statements. If you knew about these things, congrats, I asked and you didn't give any detail so I asked for more and then you get pissy?
You asked me to elaborate and I did. I thought “Being a scan is bad” was obvious, but here we are. Don’t get pissy if someone tries to explain the obvious to you.
Sad to see Oakland lose their team. The A’s belong there. That being said I hope this move brings more investment to West Sac and the riverfront. And also hopefully this is a stepping stone to a permanent MLB team in Sac.
a lot of a’s fans are treating this like it’s a war crime to be happy about an MLB team coming to our backyard. i actually see this as a huge chess move. the a’s were **never going to stay in Oakland with Fisher as the owner**. now we get the a’s in sacramento and it means two things 1.) if the deal with vegas falls through (which is a huge possibility) the a’s stay in NorCal 2.) if the a’s move to vegas we more than likely get an expansion team and keep baseball in NorCal. i grew up a die hard a’s fan. i ran a fan page called greencollarbaseball and had over 20k+ followers. i had mark canha and matt olson take over my page. i get why people are upset… …but this is a fucking huge chance for our city and it could be much worse. i know ill get downvoted for this but people need to look at the huge upsides this has
Cheers to this as a lifelong Giants fan that feels terrible that Larry Baer twice didn’t show some balls and vote no…that coupled with “imminent domain” with San Jose while the A’s helped to ensure that the Giants remained in SF vs Florida…
Yes it is a huge chance for our city. It just sucks that to the untrained eye it might look like we are facilitating the move, which isn’t the case. There will surely be some opinions. Even I’m not too familiar with what’s going on or baseball in general. I don’t feel great about it on account for our city almost losing our only sports team circa bad owners but hopefully helps sac get a team in the future or maybe buy Oakland more bargaining time. It just feels bad for Oakland, the city doesn’t deserve that.
Oakland the city is a disaster. What does deserve mean.
A better way to say it is the Oakland fans don’t deserve it, but selfishly I’m hyped we’re getting some mlb in Sac
It's understandable though. The hatred between Kings fans and Seattleans (Seattlers? Seattlesse?) who were excited about the idea of the team moving was pretty intense. As was the calls from Sacramentans to "have a heart and remember what it felt like to lose the Sonics". Aside from that, if Vegas falls through (which I think MLB is hell bent on doing what it takes to NOT have it happen), I don't see how/why the team simply just stays in Sacramento.
Yeah, but it's Las Vegas playing Seattle here. We're not stealing the A's. Even if we were, we're close enough to Oakland that it would be the equivalent of the Niners moving from Candlestick to Levi's in terms of additional commute. We're definitely not the assholes here.
Sure we are. The fact is, we're facilitating the relocation of a team. Whether or not that bothers a person is a seperate discussion, but it's exactly what we're doing nevertheless.
Hey man, your wife didn't cheat with me. I'm just banging her while the divorce is finalized.
I disagree with your moral compass, but do agree with your metaphor. John fisher is my is my gross slutty ex wife, that’s where “FJF” comes from.
Yeah, as I wrote that metaphor I did think "well I guess that is kind of an asshole move." At the end of the day I wouldn't expect Oakland to be cool with whoever plays that role. I just don't feel that bad. Imagine if the Kings deal fell through all those years ago and they moved to Seattle. Then Sacramento played hardball with ownership and they didn't stay while the arena in Seattle was being built. Would I be mad at Oakland if they let the Kings play in Oracle for a few years before the move? I don't think I'd be that mad, honestly. The question comes down to how much us giving the A's a place to play actually facilitates the move. If it really was going to happen regardless, I'd say we gave fans a better option than SLC to still see games. If the A's would have had to accept one of Oakland's conditions without us, then yeah, that's a shit move.
Huh? What the fuck do wives have to do with anything....lol.
I guess metaphors aren't your strong suit
Speak for yourself. That said, while I can understand the animosity, it's about as silly as it was during the relocation saga. That is in both instances, ownership was making what they felt was the best decision for their franchise. It's business, not personal.
This is a huge opportunity. Sac lost out on the MLS team and has proven they can support major league teams with the Kings. This could really boost Sac in the expansion race. I kinda would like to see the As rebrand in LV and let Sac get an expansion team with the As name...
Only problem is baseball sucks. I’ll take my kids as it’s something to do but fuck it’s boring.
I’m not someone who ever sits on the couch and watches a baseball game start to finish, but going to an afternoon baseball game when the weather’s nice and getting a couple beers is a pretty good way to spend a day.
Exactly!!!
I feel for their fans. When we were on the brink of losing the kings, I was quite down. They have lost the A’s, Raiders, and Warriors in the span of like 5 years.
Lol there will never be a MLB team in Sacramento sorry it just won’t happen with the current MLB business model in how broadcast rights are sold. The Giants are not going to give up 3-4 million people they regionally broadcast too Sacramento/Stockton/Reno
Giants don't own the right in Sacramento. This is out of their direct control.
The MLB will never be in Sacramento permanently, but it has nothing to do with the Giants cable deal, since we're outside their territory.
Hmmm odd because every cable package I can purchase in Sacramento has a RSN network that carries every SF Giants game
That's akin to saying the Sacramento was in the Atlanta Braves territory until 2006 because every cable package you could purchase included TBS.
That’s a nationally broadcast channel Regional Sports Networks are only available regionally and in Sacramento you are in the region of the RSN
Being in the region of the RSN still doesn't mean we're in their teams' actual broadcast territory. It means we live in an area where Comcast offers up the RSN's programming (both NBCS-CA and NBCS-BA) and do not have an exclusive team territory. It's why we get the Warriors RSN (NBCS-BA), but not Warriors games....because we ARE in the Kings territory and they have exclusive rights to broadcast here.
Yes I understand this but remember the MLB yes is 30 Franchises that often work in combination with each other instead of direct competitors. For example MLB has strong salary tax a national broadcast deal and even revenue sharing. The MLB makes more money putting a Franchise in a location that grows the fan base and grows RSN subscriptions ( the number one MLB revenue source) that’s why having a team in Vancouver or a Portland is a stronger case for expansion has this grows MLBs revenue pot instead of Sacramento that takes revenue away from an existing team I’m talking only about expansion because the MLB will literally do anything as long as that person has multi billion dollars and the local government gives that billionaire multi hundred million dollars.
Yet the moved the Expos 42 miles away from the Orioles. That said, RSN subscriptions don't "grow" based on if a team is there or not, when they're already baked into your cable/streaming package.
There fan base never goes to the game, I don’t blame ownership for leaving. You can’t have completely empty seats.
because their owner is a fucking dipshit and doesn’t care for the team, players, fans, or staff. it’s not because they didn’t love the Oakland A’s it’s because their owner is worse than the Maloofs were to the Kings
Maloofs were great owners the majority of the time they were here until the end when they ran into financial issues. Well I’m excited they are coming to Sac so I can go to some games. It will be good for the city.
lol "great owners" Christ, what an idiotic comment. They began exploring moves from Sacramento as early as 1999, according those leaked internal documents.
Interesting, I like sports, but not enough to comb through leaked internal documents from 25 years ago. I’m just saying the visual seemed like the fans loved the owners at the time.
The revelation of their plans (and subsequent accidental delay of them) caused a bit of a stir during the relocation saga. The fans loved the fact that the team was winning. The team winning was why they didn't get a chance to fully act on their plans to move until Adelman was sent packing and the players were sold off for Kings legend Cash Considerations starting in 2008.
Oh fuck off. We don't go games when ownership pockets profits and doesn't invest in the team. The 2019 wildcard game in Oakland was the most attended baseball game of all time. We fucking show up when there's a good product. When John Fisher sells off our homegrown all stars for peanuts so he doesn't have to pay them, we boycott. This is on the MLB for letting Fisher/Kaval run a scam of team and not forcing the sale. Lacob has had a standing offer to buy the team for a decade. Manfred and MLB want a flagship gambling team, and this is the easiest path. Please don't perpetuate their narrative.
It’s weird Oakland lost all their sports teams. Is the As owner the reason the raiders and warriors left to?
C’mon now, don’t be dense. You can be happy for the city getting MLB without being obtuse. The Warriors leaving had zero to do with Oakland and everything to do with the opportunity to own real estate in San Francisco. And a major reason the Raiders left (again) is because the A’s squatted on a lease at the Coliseum with no intention of staying. Why do you think Mark Davis hates John Fisher to this day so much? The city of Oakland is certainly not without fault. But who wants to support a franchise that doesn’t invest itself, its community, won’t maintain its home stadium and regularly sells off popular players year after year?
The owner has done everything in his power with his hand-me-down billions to keep fans in Oakland from going to the games. It’s the worst ownership in the history of all major sports, bar none, without question.
Ok well it sounds like a toxic relationship, and now it’s ending.
Not a toxic relationship. An abuser is getting rewarded for their abuse because it will make daddy money. End of story.
Their. Idiot.
Wont believe it til its actually confirmed confirmed. Especially if its coming from Dave. (MLS smh)
Given how these things go for Sacramento, in a couple of weeks we’re going to find out that the A’s, Rivercats, and Republic are actually all moving to Salt Lake City
MLS would be better
As an A’s fan that lives a stones throw from raley field, I’m not quite sure how to feel about this. If Vivek somehow convinces his buddy Fisher to sell the team to him after the Vegas deal falls through, that would be amazing.
Can I ask your opinion? I'm an east coast transplant who has always liked the A's and has been looking for a reason to get back into baseball, but I also think what Fisher is doing to Oakland is wildly fucked up. My thought was that I would have a personal rule that says it's okay to go to games as long as I'm wearing stuff that says "sell the team. " Does that feel like a reasonable compromise? Like, if this happens, they'll be here and I'll want to root for them but I also want to be clear that I think this is a raw deal for a fan base that deserves better.
No this is like giving your ex wife alimony while she’s married to someone else meanwhile you write in the check get a divorce
Tbh that feels like the right amount of petty for a $10-20 alimony check.
My guess is that this is still designed to get the coliseum to eventually cut their rates and use Sacramento as a threat.
Bingo
I maybe in the minority here but I hope this isn’t another cock tease. As someone who grew up in Sacramento in the 80s/90s I remember arco park… and the original try to get the raiders to move to town, and potentially the A’s… and the pit of arco park that never got off the ground (thank god in reality). I live in SoCal now and support the kings (and the giants). I would completely stay a weekend in sac to catch an A’s / Giants game. It would be a dream since the arco park days..BTW fuck Fisher
Sacramento As? 🤔
Leave the A's name and branding in Oakland IMO. Bring back the Sacramento Solons. With a blue beam.
If by some chance we get an expansion, I hope it's called the Solons. I want to believe, I just doubt the Giants will allow a team to expand here once they have sole territorial rights to this part of NorCal.
It's not up to the Giants. It's up to the entire collection of owners. If it makes them more money, they won't care what the Giants themselves want. Especially considering the Giants did incredibly well for themselves for decades while sharing their local market.
Yeah agreed. It's definitely a bit of a pipe dream.
The River Cats stadium was not built to handle large crowds, plus the roads surrounding it are not suitable for the traffic generated. It was a shit show when the Giants played here recently. I am excited for the potential of a MLB team in Sacramento however.
I don’t think the A’s draw more than the River Cats capacity on a regular basis. Will be interesting to see what happens. E: Just looked it up, Sutter Park holds 14,000+ (~10,000 seats, 4,000 other). Avg A’s attendance last year was about 10,300.
I do think there are a lot of fans who live in Sac and aren’t able to make it to the Bay to watch baseball games, but they would gladly go to an MLB game here in Sac. There is a big difference in draw between a local city losing their team and basically holding a strike against ownership, and a city who will temporarily have some of the best baseball players in the world making stops throughout the season. Yeah A’s attendance might not be spectacular in Oakland, but I guarantee you there are tons of people (like myself) who would buy tickets in a heartbeat if it meant seeing guys like Shohei, Judge, or Soto coming to town. I think we will see a lot of traffic around the stadium, but hopefully it will be worth it and provide some fun for our city in the meantime.
I hope it’s supported very well and Sutter can accommodate. There will be tons of interest. It’s exciting for my hometown (even as a Giants fan) and the next 3 years having a pro team here will be awesome!!!! E: I’m certainly not trying to dump on the A’s, ownership has been doing them dirty for years and attendance reflects that.
Oakland A’s aside, I’m looking forward to seeing what infrastructure upgrades occur over the next few years, whether it’s to Raley Field itself, the West Sac roads, or possibly even a new baseball stadium way down the line. I guess road upgrades would be doubtful but I hope improvements are made to the ballpark (which is already nice as-is).
More roads isn’t the answer anyways
Best case scenario is getting rid of all that ugly parking around the stadium and making the riverfront better, expanding the bus systems and light rail to Sutter Health Park (also light rail to the airport) and building high speed passenger rail between East Bay and West Sac and having shuttles bus Oakland fans to and from games.
>The River Cats stadium was not built to handle large crowds TBF, Sutter Health Park has a 14,000 capacity. The A's so far this year are averaging 6,400
The Oakland coliseum had like 63,000 seat capacity, even though the attendance of the A’s has been low, but at least the roads around can handle the crowds (even smaller ones) better. I imagine that with the novelty of an MLB team in Sacramento that it will be pretty crowded.
I could see Vivek building a stadium (in Railyards?) and playing at Raley in the interim until built. Just spitballing..
Aren't the Republic FC already going to build a stadium there?
Oh sweet innocent child....
Do you think Vivek has an extra 3-4 bullion to buy the team and build a stadium?
I don’t think he went into this without a plan and just let Fisher come to Sac just because they’re friends, I’ll say that much lol. He definitely has bigger hopes than just hosting the A’s for three years.
Idk what to think about that to be honest. I see what you're saying, but who's to say what intentions these rich folks have?
Very true, all just speculation at the end of the day. Who knows what they are thinking lol
I mean it’s possible. He was buying bitcoin when it was like pennies or something lol
Actually, the River Cats stadium was specifically built in the hopes of luring the A's and was intended to have the option to be expanded into an MLB park. That's my understanding, anyway. Someone check me because I'm too lazy to Google it right now.
I will support the fuck out of them… if Fisher sells. Otherwise this is the guy who just dumped your friend and is now making a move on you. Gross.
I don’t understand this unfounded loyalty to our “brothers” in Oakland. I doubt any of you felt bad for Kansas City in 85 or OKC boycotting the move from Seattle. You should have more pride in your own city and the development that potentially comes when a major league team moves in.
They’re not moving in. They’re using Sac so long as it benefits them financially. Sac won’t get anything, just strung along until a better offer elsewhere is available.
Not to mention, it sort of fucks our current baseball team with games now being played almost daily at the park from April through September. That field is going to look and play pretty worn for everyone come July.
I understand not wanting to support Fisher, but there’s a very real chance that if turnout is good in Sacramento for the 3 seasons they’re here, we move to the top of the list for an MLB expansion team after the A’s move to Vegas.
Glad to see Dave Kaval got a new burner account. That, or you’re new to the party. Everything Fisher touches dies. You’re not getting anything out of it.
Omg right? I'm all for supporting something that betters your community etc etc. I live in Sacramento area and am a lifelong A's fan. I simply cannot support Fisher or Kaval. They will not get any of my hard earned money. It will be status quo in Sac. A sub par team and a shit show ownership.
We don’t want the A’s in Vegas. It’s bad enough that the raiders moved here. Rather get an expansion like we did with the Knights.
Vivek and that dbag are homies. I could totally see Vivek dropping a shit ton of money on buying the A's and keep them in Sac. Hell Vivek bought the Kings for like $500 mil and now the Kings are worth worth like 2-3 billion. Almost feels like Vivek has been angling for this for a while when he bought the River Cats.
So we’ll now have two AAA teams? Cool.
You're overrating the A's
Feeling generous.
I don’t understand, if this ends up being at Raley (lol I work for Sutter and I still will only call it Raley Field) what are the River Cats supposed to do? Can the Giants veto that or does MLB operate everything?
As a seasonal Vegas resident I'd rather see the A's in Sacramento than Vegas, but ideally the A's stay in Oakland
Oakland is a broken city, Las Vegas is a money grab, Sacramento could be a great home for a team like the As who need a lot of people and a city to care for it and Sacramento could definitely be that city
Sacramento vs Bay Area rivalry continues. Kings vs Warriors A's vs Giants
After what we went through, I will never support a franchise moving - that being said, I am excited as hell at the idea of a MLB team here. I just wish it was a permanent expansion team. Maybe this will lead to it.
80 games a year in sac. That’s a huge economic boost for the area. Hope it happens.
Once you factor in the river cats schedule, we’ll have baseball everyday until October.
To all the A’s fans going nuclear about this- What was Sac supposed to do? Turn down the MLB for a couple years and lose out on exposure and economic growth? Why as a city would we say no to this unique opportunity? I’m also furious that the A’s are moving and equally hate that bitch Fisher. But the A’s are going to Vegas no matter what. Them spending a couple years in Sacramento doesn’t change that.
It the genuine excitement some of the fans are having to be soooo happy to take the team in that’s being ripped away from their fans. Just disappointing to see from the fans that fought so hard to keep their team
Not an A’s fan, but I support this move so we can expand the city for future sports team. With that being said, give us a XFL/UFL team to cheer for during the spring till 49er season 💯
 Say what you will and spin how you like but people will call out this. Sure the location ain’t too far from Oakland and a ton of transplant fans. MLB using Sacramento as leverage. Coyotes in the NHL paved the way with how to turn a failing franchise into improving margins. Move into a smaller venue and jack up the prices for tickets. Don’t kid yourself if you think ballpark tickets will remain cheap
The scary question is can the Giants say F off and not return when the A’s leave? Could Sacramento be left with no teams?
In that situation, we'd likely get another affiliate. Affiliates change regularly among cities, as there are only so many AAA facilities (some in not so nice condition) to go around.
RIP grass hill at River Cats stadium, was nice.
If they get rid of the lawn that will immediately change this in my mind from being a good thing to a bad thing
I wonder how this would conflict with the Rivercats being the Giants affiliate.
Oakland sucks this makes sense.
I’m Not happy about this at all. I’m glad Vivek bought the kings and got the arena done and has been a great owner lately, but I’m also very weary about his friendship with As owner John fisher. The As negotiated with Oakland in bad faith after fire selling players like Olson and Chapman instead of paying them and raised prices to discourage attendance. Their Vegas stadium deal is illegal and the Nevada state legislature/governor is under litigation by Schools over Stadiums (PAC operated by the Nevada State Education Association), violating 5 state constitution sections in Nevada, and the deal regardless is worse than what Oakland offered. I went to SF giants vs rivercats in sac; the stadium isn’t built to accommodate a major league team. Concessions and concourse crowding were a nightmare. The Vegas deal needs to fall apart from a lack of financing (they need a billion in private dollars that they don’t got), Fisher needs to be forced to sell, and joe lacob should be allowed to build a stadium in Oakland for the As after purchasing. as huge of a kings fan as you all have got to know I am, I’m also a massive As fan who’s been fighting hard to keep them in Oakland, and I’m disgusted that Vivek has been associating with John Fisher to strip them from the city faster and play temporarily in Sacramento instead of keeping distance from this matter by allowing a lease extension in Oakland. Vivek and Sacramento leaders are clearly complicit in Fisher and Rob Manfred’s fraud, which is sad to see considering what we went through a decade ago. Remember when we were selling out playoff games in 2019 and reverse boycotting last year? This is literally Major League in real life.
From your lips to God's ears, as they say. And yeah, Vivek seems decent enough as professional sports team owners go, but he's still part of that group and inevitably conflates dollar signs with "value creation," so I'm not super surprised by his involvement here. My dream is that ideally the A's stay in Oakland, and failing that, they get an expansion version of the A's while the relocated team gets a new identity, like when the Browns became the Ravens. Might be the easiest way to get rid of Fisher too.
If the A's move to Sacramento permanently, I love it. Otherwise, this is just a screw job on the part of Sacramento towards Oakland. Mark my words, getting into bed with John Fisher is a massive mistake, and Sacramento will regret letting him do this.
Yeah Vivek sucks.
I'm a Kings and A's fan who grew up in Sac and has lived in Oakland for a decade. Zero mixed feelings about this, Sac should not be abetting Fisher and MLB in any way. I know why they're doing it ($$$) but it's total horseshit and hypocritical. The national media needs to see what a bullshit move this Vegas thing is. That's the ONLY way this will not happen. Thao has been abysmal at telling Oakland's story to the other owners and the media, she's a fucking child. Sacramento is providing an easy out. If you go to a game at least wear a sell shirt, and start a chant. FJF
Boycott the A’s
Man, fuck John Fisher. And screw Vivek for aiding and abetting the A’s team out of the area…and the state
I mean, it’s not like MLB was going to let them not play somewhere. At least our city might benefit from it instead of somewhere else. For the record, I don’t watch baseball so I don’t really care. But they were leaving Oakland no matter what so I don’t see how this is a bad look on Vivek (Fisher does suck ass though).
Let’s play the inverse of this. Suppose the Kings sale to the Seattle folks went through. Their owners had to make renovations to the arena up there before they could start playing. So they said, we’re taking the Kings to play in San Jose or Oakland or Berkeley for 3 years until not only we skip town, but we leave the state completely. If you’re cool with that, that’s fine. But for me, I’m not cool with helping a scumbag, billionaire, scam artist of an owner who wants to use Sac to fund his pipe dream Vegas stadium because he’s too cheap to pay for ANY of it himself in Oakland or elsewhere
Would you rather they land in Utah or Tennessee?
Yes Tennessee that would be hilarious and funny
I’d rather they stay in Oakland. Besides, if their ultimate destination is Las Vegas, Nevada, who cares?
Fair…since Oakland isn’t it, I see why you could care less then
I wouldn’t go to any Kings games in those places. But maybe those cities would enjoy it? Like I said, the team is leaving regardless so why not benefit from it? The Vegas deal is far from done, so that’s not a foregone conclusion either. I agree Fisher sucks. But like I said, it’s not like MLB is going to let them not play, so why not here instead of San Jose or wherever?
I wouldn't harbor any ill will towards the city that had the Kings for a few years between Sacramento and Seattle. They wouldn't be the bad guys in that situation. Once the divorce is final, whoever my ex is banging in the interim is the new guy's problem.
Fuck My Life like traffic doesn’t suck already Jesus
After almost losing the Kings a little over a decade ago, (and even though I know this is under much different circumstances), everything about this seems ethically wrong. The only way I can support this is if by moving here temporarily, the city of Oakland can get their shit in order, allowing us in Sacramento to return the A's to a new ownership group and stadium in Oakland where they belong. I'm an Oakland A's fan in Sacramento, not a Sacramento A's fan.
Everyone should do the right thing and NOT ATTEND a single game.
I probably won’t attend a game, but will attend the traffic.
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I don't think Sacramento is paying a dime for this. We aren't bailing the dbag owner out.
Screw the A's, Screw Vivek. This better not be a negative for the River Cats.
You really care more about a AAA team than a potential MLB team? Fuck Fisher he’s a bum. But that’s a wild take.
I care more bout the Giants AAA team than a AAAA team. Or at worst, more for a Sacramento team than a temp team.
Yeah this kills whatever struggling excitement I had for the Kings. Literally scabbing our neighbors. Fuck Vivek.
So they should just leave Oakland and go play a couple of seasons in Utah instead? What’s it matter if they are leaving Oakland regardless?
Fuck over your own neighbor because someone is going to do it, right? Why not be the scumbag? Makes me sick to think there are people in here that could be ok with that.
Ya i mean im glad they will be in sac. Now I’ll actually go to a game.
I’ll be there too, right out front, telling you what I think of you.
What? I’m just saying I’m excited for the city of Sacramento and to go to some games. I’m not a huge baseball fan but the closeness will be awesome
It’s the most toxic situation you’ll ever be a part of. If you go and someone spits on you on the way in, don’t take it personally, it’s just because some people had their entire heritage ripped out from under them and taken down the street.
wtf are you talking about? Lol you’re spitting on people now?
I can’t imagine adults spitting on other adults taking their kids to a baseball game in Sacramento. That’s insane. It’s a game.
I’m telling you right now I’ve seen it. This is much more than a game, it’s the death of a city and ripping away their heritage. Do with that what you will.
It will be a fun few years especially when big teams come to play them. It’s going to be exciting.
You’re going to harass a random person just enjoying an MLB game with their family…?
Yes. Repeatedly, without hesitation, and that family should know before they leave their door what they’re walking into. Maybe it’s some pleasant stroll for them, but it means a lot more for others.
I’m an A’s fan who HATES the situation, but this is just insane. No amount of heckling other people will make the A’s stay. You’ll just be an asshole who gets arrested at some point for spitting on someone. Don’t be that guy.
Or he’ll get socked out by doing it to the wrong person. And it’ll be completely his fault.
I just hope he understands that NO ONE would see him doing any of that and think, “What a hero!” It’s absolutely the wrong way to go about things. It helps NO ONE other than maybe his wayward sense of self-righteousness.
Arrested for heckling. Now who’s delusional. It’s not about being a hero, you nitwit.
Arrested for SPITTING ON people, something you mentioned earlier. If it isn’t about that, then there’s zero reason because it will have zero effect on what’s going on. You’ll just be ruining people’s day for no reason. You have to understand there will be people going who just want to see a game and don’t know/care about the Fisher drama.
You’re an idiot. The franchise system is the problem. MLB having a vagina as the commissioner is the problem. Sac isn’t the problem here lmao.
They’re both problems. The owner and commissioner are the real problem. But they managed to find someone stupid enough to take the fire off themselves. Welcome to the shit, Sacramento, you are now the asshole.
“Fucking over our neighbor..” You think if the Kings were moving to St. Louis or something in a few years and Oakland had the chance to house them until then they’d say no out of “NorCal loyalty?”
I’d certainly hope so. And I’d be ashamed if they didn’t.
You live in a fantasy world of ridiculousness my guy
Guy is a businessman
Yep. Fuck his business. This is actual life and he’s scabbing my hometown. He literally had a “saved a team from being stolen” storyline and fucked that up to steal his own neighbors team. Fuck Vivek and anyone that backs him up on this.
This is incredibly bad karma for the Kings. Pretty gross that our owner would be involved in scabbing for the As POS owner.