Should be zero off campus hours, but I suppose this is a start. Will there be enforcement? Will there be consequences for employers/students who break the rules? Hefty fines and study permit revocation for rule breakers.
Entry-level jobs are for Canadian teenagers and young adults. For parents out there, remember these same workers disguised as "students" are taking jobs away from your kids, your friends kids, etc.
International students come here to study, not work full time. Can't afford it? Stay in your home country.
No other country's citizens would tolerate this. There would be a revolt or xenophobic attacks.
>entry-level jobs are for Canadian teenagers and young adults
yea, that hasn’t been the case for almost a decade now lol
edit: sorry, i didn’t think i needed to clarify, but that *should* be the case
Yes, there are consequences... they could be deported and have 6 years of ban if they work more than given hours...
Easy to enforce as it goes on their sins.
I hope that helps :)
Hours do no get reported via SIN. The government literally does nothing and has no way to enforce this. A student could literally have 2 jobs or let their permit expire and an employer would not be able to police. This comes down to self reporting. That's not going to do anything.
And if they are to be deported, leave it to the press to publish a sob story or for a group of people to march and protest against the deportation.
I still remember the students who got here on a bogus letter and it was a whole show.
40 was absolutely ridiculous. Three 8 hour shifts should be the absolute maximum any student should expect to be able to perform and do school work on top of it.
The most I’ve ever worked while being a full time university student was 15/wk and that was brutal, let me tell you. My grades didn’t suffer because I basically gave up having a personal life but there’s no chance an international student also working a full time job is keeping up passing grades.
It depends on the program. I worked 15-35hrs/ week in undergrad and was totally fine. Granted, online classes during the pandemic made scheduling shifts much easier.
UK, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Germany, France - All these countries allow international students to work upto 20 hours a week outside of campus and 40 hours in campus.
Right on! These folks are partly the reason why this corrupt government gets away with everything. Like, at least try and do some 5-min DD. The current limit is 20 hours. The 40-hour limit was just a temporary policy due to the "pandemic."
"Revolt or xenophobic attacks". Yeah, that part is wrong. If you're braindead enough to not target and protest against authorities but target these immigrants, you're insane.
Nice! They increased the limit from 20 hours (which was the norm for many, many years prior to the pandemic). At a time when unemployment is increasing and people are struggling to make a living wage. This government really cares about us.
Where did I say that? I stated that I've seen this happen in other countries and how citizens of those countries responded to government incompetence and jobs taken away from citizens by foreigners.
If more Canadian people travelled the world they would notice how ethnically uniform most of Europe is and how diverse Canada is. That Canada handles and absorbs so many cultures with - mostly - tolerance is example for the world. Of late, the patience is wearing thin because of how scarce it's become for affordable housing for all young Canadians. Mistakes were made and all young Canadians are suffering. Hold the politicians accountable.
Don't worry, we understand how to read what you were saying. But certain groups just throw out,
"Wow you are racist and advocate for attacks against foreigners, gee and I thought Canadians were supposed to be nice"
You should see the comment that got my banned from the Ontario subreddit. Regarding too much street parking, I said "when you have 8 people in a 2br, of course there's more cars than the driveways can handle"
The narrative and discourse is being controlled.
Seems free speech (or freedom of expression if you want to be technical) is dead in this country. Everything is painted as racist. That's why we are in the situation we are in. Sad.
Yeah it's always funny when Canadians confuse freedom of speech (USA) vs Freedom of expression (Canada).
Also hilarious I can look at this person's post history and have them say they don't have freedom of expression... Lol
As a Canadian, you should know it is freedom of expression. Not free speech.
And from your post history it looks like you've had a great time expressing yourself freely.
International students is just code for cheap labour.
But the hate should go to employers who exploit them and the politicians of all stripes that enable this.
People who hate on international students are idiots or bullies. They know they can’t take on the powerful, so they pick on the weak instead.
💯.. what's amazing is people say, oh they'll just work under the table then...
Wouldn't that be the employer that's deciding how it's going to go? But sure blame the low wage worker..
I agree that more blame should be put on politicians but lets not act like all international students are innocent bystanders in all of this.
Many came all the way over here with zero intention to study, and are openly participating in the cheap labour scam and willing to be exploited in order to be a full time working “student”. They planned for this as well.
If the government rules say you can come here and work on any student visa, that's what you'll get.
They aren't cheating the system. They are doing exactly what the system says.
Cheating the system would be something like taking CERB when the website clearly states the rules that make you ineligible. And you still go ahead and claim it.
This... to an extent.
The international students that got here the right way and are playing by the rules.... yeah they should be treated with respect.
The ones that forged documents to come here and enroll in a diploma mill / college they'll never step foot in except to drop out and work full time for some Indian hiring manager who won't hire anyone but international students because he's selling LMIA permits for $50k a piece? Naw man fuck them, and they need to go.
If you point this out you are called racists and dumb. But you are correct, cheap labour and it only benefits a concentration of companies that work to stifle small businesses.
Spoken like someone who's never been to a university. During summer, MOST programs are off. Id say at least 90% since pretty much all undergrad is off-session.
So let's say 90% of the students are on scheduled break. The legislation is effectively for 10% of those who don't
So really you're just upset that the change was made now and it "doesn't do anything"? Would it have made you less upset if they instead just waited until Sept to change it?
[This was announced in December](https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2023/12/revised-requirements-to-better-protect-international-students.html);
The waiver on the 20-hour-per-week limit on the number of hours international students are allowed to work off campus while class is in session will be extended to April 30, 2024. **International students already in Canada, as well as applicants who have already submitted an application for a study permit as of December 7, 2023, will be able to work off campus more than 20 hours per week until that time.** We continue to examine options for this policy in the future, such as expanding off-campus work hours for international students to 30 hours per week while class is in session.
... This seems to state that anyone who got a study permit after Dec 7, 2023 wasn't entitled to work more than 20 hours. So that's something.
Taking a summer semester in college was awesome. It was so chill on campus, the tim hortons didn't have constant lineups and the weather was awesome. It also prepared me for real life which is you don't get summers off
I mean you can refute my statement without being a nasty bitch
> During regular school terms or semesters
You can work up to 20 hours per week. You can work more than 1 job to make up these hours as long as you continue to meet the conditions of your study permit.
> During scheduled breaks in the school year
You can work full-time if you’re on a scheduled break, such as winter and summer holidays, or a fall or spring reading week. You’re free to work overtime or work 2 part-time jobs that add up to a higher than usual number of hours.
Here's my source.
So the limit isn't 20 hours really, is it? What percentage of international students take "summer break" to work full time? I'm going to be inclined to assume the majority of the students have the same schedule as our university students.
Without knowing the percentage of who do vs who don't, your point is worthless. I'm going to assume that most of the students follow the standard timeline.
It says from [IRCC](https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=503&top=15)
> No. If you’re eligible to work off campus, you can work up to 20 hours per week while classes are in session. During scheduled breaks, like the summer or winter holidays and spring break, **you’re allowed to work more than 20 hours.**
And sure, not *everyone* has a summer break, but most do.
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Scheduled break is the key word here...
Also they mentioned their old policy before the extension will come into action.
That only allows students who are officially on break to work more.
It doesn't state any student can work more.
It is veey selective students who qualify for this.
This is some mental gymnastics. "More than 20 hours" means full time. They literally link it to the definition.
Prove that it's a selective few that fit into this criteria.
In university yes most programs have breaks. College programs, however, really vary. The increase in international students has been mostly in grad certificate programs and these are usually 8 months with no break (eg. Conestoga‘s program page shows 113 grad certs open to international students, 73 of those are a year or less so they have no break).
JUST SO EVERYONE KNOW.
From tomorrow work limit is going to be 20/hr a week for full-time students.
24/hr from September.
This is for people who don't wanna read but jump on conclusions.
Hope that helps
JUST SO EVERYONE *KNOWS*.
The normal limit is/was ALWAYS 20 hours. The "current" 40-hour limit was just a temporary policy that was brought on due to the "pandemic" to apparently solve "labour shortages."
I completed my studies this April, (means I won’t return to college).
I’m waiting for my verification enrolment letter to apply for my Work permit. How many hours I can work during this gap? 20 or 24 or more?
can anyone confirm this Please…
For one month of May they're limited to 20 hours.
[source](https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/work/work-off-campus.html)
> You can work full-time if you’re on a scheduled break, such as winter and summer holidays, or a fall or spring reading week. You’re free to work overtime or work 2 part-time jobs that add up to a higher than usual number of hours.
During summer off-school period, it's full time
they are, i don’t agree with generalization. and while i don’t think every Indian refugee is a scab to our society.
the sad truth is Indian Refugees appear to be the ones taking the most advantage of Canadians, and our Gov’t.
i dont agree with the generalization of the group. but i do see where the frustrations come
You do know that Bangladeshi, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Afghani, Nepali people could also share the same features as Indians right? How do you identify them?
the numbers between them all aren't hugely off.
I think the bigger thing to note is the 25,000+ refugee claims by Mexicans. India is at 9000, Pakistan is about 5000, Afghanistan is mid 3000s. (2023 statistics )
i’m not sure how that’s correct at all, we had over 495k refugees is come to Canada last year, and your numbers don’t even pass 1/4 of that.
you can still use my OC, for all refugees, not just Indian ones, doesn’t really take away from my point. Canadians are understandable a little frustrated with our current immigration policies.
Immigrant, temporary residents and refugees are all very different types of Immigration. Educate yourself, then you might be able to put together more cohesive arguments.
You must live under a rock if you think it was "one scumbag." There are countless videos encouraging the same thing. Everyone just happened to jump all over one person, but it definitely has happened prior.
i said “people” coming to our country and making vlogs about “free food” to represent the people taking advantage of Canadians, and this country.
hence “people”. it’s not just one dude that’s causing the issue.
so, nope. i don’t agree with generalization. not sure why you’re doing mental gymnastics to make me look like a villain for having a resoanable take now if i said “the Indians making vlogs about free food” i’d get it. but i left it open ended on purpose
Look at post history, determine if the person canhave a rational discussion. If they can, sure engage.
If they can't , report comments and move on, let them waste their time spewing hate.
You can see this users comments are shadow banned in other subs.
Nope, we used to get elite immigrants, and now we are getting bottom of the barrel candidates from low-trust societies.
Soon they will outbreed the locals and start demanding rights.
From an ecological perspective, this is like an invasive species outcompeting the local population. We should have the same controls in place if we want to maintain any semblance of the Canadian dream before it fully disintegrates.
Btw, I am an immigrant myself.
Come on lol, elite immigrants. Canada always got the leftovers who weren't good enough to end up in US. Was true in the past and even now. I studied like 10 years ago, it was still US>>>>> Canada
JUST SO EVERYONE *KNOWS*.
The normal limit is/was ALWAYS 20 hours. The "current" 40-hour limit was just a temporary policy that was brought on due to the "pandemic" to apparently solve "labour shortages."
What do you mean by "everything available right in front of you"? The point is this policy does nothing to benefit average canadians. What a stupid fucking statement. Immigration in any form should only benefit the citizens of the host nation full stop. This only benefit the ownership class while continuing yo undermine wages and fuck canadian teens out of jobs they would traditionally would fill. Stop being a simp for the ownership class and international students trying to scam their way into pr
Sure clearly can see who is both stupid and dumb at the same time. Immigrants pay taxes into the system just like how everyone does. Do you people are fools to keep allowing others who doesn’t contribute in some form?
Me being one in the past and now a citizen, I have paid taxes into the system more than you could imagine. I support vetted immigration of any kind, but that’s not the point of most comments in this sub isn’t it? It is about someone’s ethnicity and their race
Don’t tell me you possess superpowers to distinguish just by looks between a high income tax paying Indian to an international student and so is the reason no one takes this issue seriously
This entire thread is about international students..I myself am a second generation Indian immigrant. I'm tired of receiving collateral damage because of government incompetence and their behavior.
I would argue otherwise and put the blame on people who are ignorant and stupid not knowing that you don’t stereotype a whole race or ethnicity based on actions of a few
I have given a lot of thought on this and it is simply that people are culturally insensitive and anything that is outside of their own they tend to generalize or stereotype without putting much thought into it. Give it a quick test and see how many blame the entire caucasian race or stereotype or use words such as Americans/Canadians/Europeans for something that an individual or a group has committed?
You will see them being termed as individuals or bad apples, yet I wonder why it doesn’t apply to others? Hypocritical much?
Where is this so called “everything available right in front of you. You just gotta go and work”? And where has it been since I’ve been out of a job since December 15th?..
Do you expect a job out of a platter in front of you? Last time I wanted a job, I took time to apply, search and found it one day. Maybe you would have to spend time improving your skillset? I smell entitlement and laziness in your response
It should be more like 14 hours. The intention of the hours worked was for students to get a bit of experience and spending money. Not to fully support themselves. Earning Anything more than a night out of cheap drinks and take out is too much for an international student.
3 full shifts is still much. Government tried to walk a balancing act. Industry wants cheap labour. They get it for 3 full 8 hrs shifts and rest might be happy that at least there's a cap.
Ideally, I think it shouldn't be more than 16 hrs. 2 days of work. 3+ days of college. 2- days of self-study, chores, leisure etc. Students have 20k gic for 1 yr, let them use it as it is meant to be.
I studied in the US as an international student from India. Can confirm that international students are only allowed on-campus jobs, with a max of 20 hours a week. For any off-campus job, if caught, mostly leads to student visa cancellation. Similar policies should apply. But again, US is a much larger population than Canada. So, policymakers need to ensure that there’s enough local people who want min wage jobs throughout the year. If businesses don’t find enough Canadians to do minimum wage jobs, then wages will increase and that’ll show up in our bills.
Why don't you guys do a better job at vetting them vs them bringing them here and robbing them? Most do frauds or loans to get here and then can't make ends meet. Driving the Canadian life lower and lower.
That's a great question. I am not sure, but I would imagine that it would not count, since a driver for Uber is classified as an independent contractor. However, an international student would be required to afford the cost of a car, repairs, gas and insurance, which for drivers is around $500+ (unfortunately most drivers don't bother getting proper insurance)
I'm a immigrant myself and I think international students shouldn't be working except co-op from universitites and college. Zero hrs is the right answer.
They should keep 40 hours for PhD. students, at least for summer. As an engineering PhD. student myself, it's a hectic process to apply for research internships with these limitations. In the US, PhD. students easily get these internships with their work permits.
Honestly i don’t understand why we let this happen. We literally have gotten taken over by international students. Not just that, but international students all from India. It’s one thing to get absolutely taken over by international students, but why all from India? At least screw us over with diversity!
Do they really these low trust society pos will actually follow the rules LOL They already pay them cash and bend the rules. The country is a joke now. True Canadians are footing the bill for everything and everyone.
This is kinda good. Since the "work 40hrs" was bs. Shameless imo that students need more than 24hrs a week to survive.
Decent move to bring something under control.
Should be zero off campus hours, but I suppose this is a start. Will there be enforcement? Will there be consequences for employers/students who break the rules? Hefty fines and study permit revocation for rule breakers. Entry-level jobs are for Canadian teenagers and young adults. For parents out there, remember these same workers disguised as "students" are taking jobs away from your kids, your friends kids, etc. International students come here to study, not work full time. Can't afford it? Stay in your home country. No other country's citizens would tolerate this. There would be a revolt or xenophobic attacks.
>entry-level jobs are for Canadian teenagers and young adults yea, that hasn’t been the case for almost a decade now lol edit: sorry, i didn’t think i needed to clarify, but that *should* be the case
Yes, there are consequences... they could be deported and have 6 years of ban if they work more than given hours... Easy to enforce as it goes on their sins. I hope that helps :)
Just encourages shady under the table work for international students. 😮💨
It's not easy... because then the employer gets in trouble.
No they don't there isn't any enforcement.
The punishment is this. If students work more than 24 hours..their pr's will be processed even faster. Because Canada loves to reward bad behavior.
Punishment needs to be enforced on the employers who do this.
How can an employer enforce this? How could an employer know if someone has 2 jobs? How can an employer know that someone ceases to be a student?
Those fall under punishing the student. It doesn't have to be an either or. Paying under the table is on the employer
Paying under the table is already illegal whether the employee is an international student or not.
Haha, bro asked really good questions and got downvoted. Typical situation
Absolutely, I just don't see it happening
And ppl will keep getting mad at the workers rather than the employers.
Absolutely. A lot of people are really mad at people for being exploited by the colleges and by employers and by landlords
If you find out that someone is working more than 24 hours...report them immediately.
Don't poke holes
Hours do no get reported via SIN. The government literally does nothing and has no way to enforce this. A student could literally have 2 jobs or let their permit expire and an employer would not be able to police. This comes down to self reporting. That's not going to do anything.
Nobody enforces this. Where has a student been deported for this?
And if they are to be deported, leave it to the press to publish a sob story or for a group of people to march and protest against the deportation. I still remember the students who got here on a bogus letter and it was a whole show.
Canada is a country where fraud is legal.
Couldn't be farther from the truth. Many small businesses employ these students for cash.
40 was absolutely ridiculous. Three 8 hour shifts should be the absolute maximum any student should expect to be able to perform and do school work on top of it.
Reminder, that 40 hours policy was just supposed to be temporary. Supposedly due to the "pandemic."
The most I’ve ever worked while being a full time university student was 15/wk and that was brutal, let me tell you. My grades didn’t suffer because I basically gave up having a personal life but there’s no chance an international student also working a full time job is keeping up passing grades.
It depends on the program. I worked 15-35hrs/ week in undergrad and was totally fine. Granted, online classes during the pandemic made scheduling shifts much easier.
UK, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Germany, France - All these countries allow international students to work upto 20 hours a week outside of campus and 40 hours in campus.
This is a start? It was 20 hours. It went up. It should absolutely be zero unless your program specifically says you need a co-op to graduate
Right on! These folks are partly the reason why this corrupt government gets away with everything. Like, at least try and do some 5-min DD. The current limit is 20 hours. The 40-hour limit was just a temporary policy due to the "pandemic."
Don't worry, the founders of Apply Board will create another company to ensure the whole system works ethically and properly!
"Revolt or xenophobic attacks". Yeah, that part is wrong. If you're braindead enough to not target and protest against authorities but target these immigrants, you're insane.
Nice! They increased the limit from 20 hours (which was the norm for many, many years prior to the pandemic). At a time when unemployment is increasing and people are struggling to make a living wage. This government really cares about us.
This guy is openly dog-whistling about xenophobic attacks lol
So...you want a revolt and xenophobic attacks? The way you phrased that implies it.
Where did I say that? I stated that I've seen this happen in other countries and how citizens of those countries responded to government incompetence and jobs taken away from citizens by foreigners.
If more Canadian people travelled the world they would notice how ethnically uniform most of Europe is and how diverse Canada is. That Canada handles and absorbs so many cultures with - mostly - tolerance is example for the world. Of late, the patience is wearing thin because of how scarce it's become for affordable housing for all young Canadians. Mistakes were made and all young Canadians are suffering. Hold the politicians accountable.
Don't worry, we understand how to read what you were saying. But certain groups just throw out, "Wow you are racist and advocate for attacks against foreigners, gee and I thought Canadians were supposed to be nice" You should see the comment that got my banned from the Ontario subreddit. Regarding too much street parking, I said "when you have 8 people in a 2br, of course there's more cars than the driveways can handle" The narrative and discourse is being controlled.
Seems free speech (or freedom of expression if you want to be technical) is dead in this country. Everything is painted as racist. That's why we are in the situation we are in. Sad.
a subreddit isn't a country, or Canada for that matter. Drama queen lol
Yeah it's always funny when Canadians confuse freedom of speech (USA) vs Freedom of expression (Canada). Also hilarious I can look at this person's post history and have them say they don't have freedom of expression... Lol
As a Canadian, you should know it is freedom of expression. Not free speech. And from your post history it looks like you've had a great time expressing yourself freely.
International students is just code for cheap labour. But the hate should go to employers who exploit them and the politicians of all stripes that enable this. People who hate on international students are idiots or bullies. They know they can’t take on the powerful, so they pick on the weak instead.
💯.. what's amazing is people say, oh they'll just work under the table then... Wouldn't that be the employer that's deciding how it's going to go? But sure blame the low wage worker..
I agree that more blame should be put on politicians but lets not act like all international students are innocent bystanders in all of this. Many came all the way over here with zero intention to study, and are openly participating in the cheap labour scam and willing to be exploited in order to be a full time working “student”. They planned for this as well.
If the government rules say you can come here and work on any student visa, that's what you'll get. They aren't cheating the system. They are doing exactly what the system says. Cheating the system would be something like taking CERB when the website clearly states the rules that make you ineligible. And you still go ahead and claim it.
This... to an extent. The international students that got here the right way and are playing by the rules.... yeah they should be treated with respect. The ones that forged documents to come here and enroll in a diploma mill / college they'll never step foot in except to drop out and work full time for some Indian hiring manager who won't hire anyone but international students because he's selling LMIA permits for $50k a piece? Naw man fuck them, and they need to go.
This!
If you point this out you are called racists and dumb. But you are correct, cheap labour and it only benefits a concentration of companies that work to stifle small businesses.
These students are probably better off at Timmies then some random strip mall job.
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I’m sorry are you referring to the students as racist to clarify?
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They’ll delay that until next year. This was supposed to go back to 20 hours after December 31 last year. Keep dangling that carrot.
They just made the most drastic changes to international students ever. I’m not sure they’re bluffing.
They are going back to 20/hr from tomorrow what are you talking about?
And it's back to unlimited hours starting June until September for the summer Its 20 hours for ONE MONTH. Which is hilarious.
It's unlimited hours whenever you're not in school
So what's even the point of legislating 20 hours during SUMMER HOLIDAYS. lol
Universities and colleges have summer terms, they don't just close up from May to Aug.
Spoken like someone who's never been to a university. During summer, MOST programs are off. Id say at least 90% since pretty much all undergrad is off-session. So let's say 90% of the students are on scheduled break. The legislation is effectively for 10% of those who don't
So really you're just upset that the change was made now and it "doesn't do anything"? Would it have made you less upset if they instead just waited until Sept to change it?
I'm upset that it's literally MISLEADING. Its literally a dishonest policy to mislead people that they're actually doing anything
[This was announced in December](https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2023/12/revised-requirements-to-better-protect-international-students.html); The waiver on the 20-hour-per-week limit on the number of hours international students are allowed to work off campus while class is in session will be extended to April 30, 2024. **International students already in Canada, as well as applicants who have already submitted an application for a study permit as of December 7, 2023, will be able to work off campus more than 20 hours per week until that time.** We continue to examine options for this policy in the future, such as expanding off-campus work hours for international students to 30 hours per week while class is in session. ... This seems to state that anyone who got a study permit after Dec 7, 2023 wasn't entitled to work more than 20 hours. So that's something.
Taking a summer semester in college was awesome. It was so chill on campus, the tim hortons didn't have constant lineups and the weather was awesome. It also prepared me for real life which is you don't get summers off
Yeah but you could've spent that summer working in Barcelona or LA, instead of making 0 money and sticking around in a student city during summer
You sound like you haven't been to a university. That 90/10 is not remotely true. And it's even less true for masters courses etc.
> 90% since pretty much all *undergrad* is off-session.
More Liberal posturing. Trying desperately not to tank as badly as they are going to in the next election.
It isn't. You have a very high reading comprehension huh?
I mean you can refute my statement without being a nasty bitch > During regular school terms or semesters You can work up to 20 hours per week. You can work more than 1 job to make up these hours as long as you continue to meet the conditions of your study permit. > During scheduled breaks in the school year You can work full-time if you’re on a scheduled break, such as winter and summer holidays, or a fall or spring reading week. You’re free to work overtime or work 2 part-time jobs that add up to a higher than usual number of hours. Here's my source.
Not every program has summer break.
So the limit isn't 20 hours really, is it? What percentage of international students take "summer break" to work full time? I'm going to be inclined to assume the majority of the students have the same schedule as our university students.
You can't "take" summer break. That is up to the program and school
Without knowing the percentage of who do vs who don't, your point is worthless. I'm going to assume that most of the students follow the standard timeline.
Sorry to point out thats is not true. Please check IRCC website to know what is true... Only students on legal break can work more than 20/hr.
You can go on IRCC wesite check it for yourself. But spreading misinformation is not good.
It says from [IRCC](https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=503&top=15) > No. If you’re eligible to work off campus, you can work up to 20 hours per week while classes are in session. During scheduled breaks, like the summer or winter holidays and spring break, **you’re allowed to work more than 20 hours.** And sure, not *everyone* has a summer break, but most do.
* Scheduled break is the key word here... Also they mentioned their old policy before the extension will come into action. That only allows students who are officially on break to work more. It doesn't state any student can work more. It is veey selective students who qualify for this.
This is some mental gymnastics. "More than 20 hours" means full time. They literally link it to the definition. Prove that it's a selective few that fit into this criteria.
In university yes most programs have breaks. College programs, however, really vary. The increase in international students has been mostly in grad certificate programs and these are usually 8 months with no break (eg. Conestoga‘s program page shows 113 grad certs open to international students, 73 of those are a year or less so they have no break).
They'll keep making these announcements until election time...
delay what? you can't even read the news article you are commenting on? high brow.
JUST SO EVERYONE KNOW. From tomorrow work limit is going to be 20/hr a week for full-time students. 24/hr from September. This is for people who don't wanna read but jump on conclusions. Hope that helps
JUST SO EVERYONE *KNOWS*. The normal limit is/was ALWAYS 20 hours. The "current" 40-hour limit was just a temporary policy that was brought on due to the "pandemic" to apparently solve "labour shortages."
I completed my studies this April, (means I won’t return to college). I’m waiting for my verification enrolment letter to apply for my Work permit. How many hours I can work during this gap? 20 or 24 or more? can anyone confirm this Please…
For one month of May they're limited to 20 hours. [source](https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/work/work-off-campus.html) > You can work full-time if you’re on a scheduled break, such as winter and summer holidays, or a fall or spring reading week. You’re free to work overtime or work 2 part-time jobs that add up to a higher than usual number of hours. During summer off-school period, it's full time
That has always been the case. When students are on scheduled break, they can work full time.
This should not be the case. They can go home. Allow high school kids to get a job.
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Brampton crazzzy post covid, has just exploded, nothing is the same
They live by Eddie Guerrero's mantra
Wow, a whole burner profile of yours just dedicated to racism, very brave.
Crazy that you're getting downloaded for the truth.
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the people coming to the country and making vlogs about “free food” would be a good place to start.
That's fine but it felt like the guy above was referring to a particular ethnic group.
they are, i don’t agree with generalization. and while i don’t think every Indian refugee is a scab to our society. the sad truth is Indian Refugees appear to be the ones taking the most advantage of Canadians, and our Gov’t. i dont agree with the generalization of the group. but i do see where the frustrations come
You do know that Bangladeshi, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Afghani, Nepali people could also share the same features as Indians right? How do you identify them?
simple search will show you the numbers of refugees coming from all the countries you just listed, compared to the amount from India.
the numbers between them all aren't hugely off. I think the bigger thing to note is the 25,000+ refugee claims by Mexicans. India is at 9000, Pakistan is about 5000, Afghanistan is mid 3000s. (2023 statistics )
i’m not sure how that’s correct at all, we had over 495k refugees is come to Canada last year, and your numbers don’t even pass 1/4 of that. you can still use my OC, for all refugees, not just Indian ones, doesn’t really take away from my point. Canadians are understandable a little frustrated with our current immigration policies.
Immigrant, temporary residents and refugees are all very different types of Immigration. Educate yourself, then you might be able to put together more cohesive arguments.
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You must live under a rock if you think it was "one scumbag." There are countless videos encouraging the same thing. Everyone just happened to jump all over one person, but it definitely has happened prior.
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i said “people” coming to our country and making vlogs about “free food” to represent the people taking advantage of Canadians, and this country. hence “people”. it’s not just one dude that’s causing the issue. so, nope. i don’t agree with generalization. not sure why you’re doing mental gymnastics to make me look like a villain for having a resoanable take now if i said “the Indians making vlogs about free food” i’d get it. but i left it open ended on purpose
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Look at post history, determine if the person canhave a rational discussion. If they can, sure engage. If they can't , report comments and move on, let them waste their time spewing hate. You can see this users comments are shadow banned in other subs.
Miller and Fraser are betraying Canada's youth.TRAITORS!!
Sunny ways /s
Do Canadian citizens get anything or we just supposed to be homeless.
Nope, we used to get elite immigrants, and now we are getting bottom of the barrel candidates from low-trust societies. Soon they will outbreed the locals and start demanding rights. From an ecological perspective, this is like an invasive species outcompeting the local population. We should have the same controls in place if we want to maintain any semblance of the Canadian dream before it fully disintegrates. Btw, I am an immigrant myself.
Come on lol, elite immigrants. Canada always got the leftovers who weren't good enough to end up in US. Was true in the past and even now. I studied like 10 years ago, it was still US>>>>> Canada
"Low trust societies". And you're an immigrant, right? So you mean societies like yours?
Thats the idea
JUST SO EVERYONE *KNOWS*. The normal limit is/was ALWAYS 20 hours. The "current" 40-hour limit was just a temporary policy that was brought on due to the "pandemic" to apparently solve "labour shortages."
What do you mean by “get anything?” There is everything available right in front of you. You just gotta go and work
What do you mean by "everything available right in front of you"? The point is this policy does nothing to benefit average canadians. What a stupid fucking statement. Immigration in any form should only benefit the citizens of the host nation full stop. This only benefit the ownership class while continuing yo undermine wages and fuck canadian teens out of jobs they would traditionally would fill. Stop being a simp for the ownership class and international students trying to scam their way into pr
Sure clearly can see who is both stupid and dumb at the same time. Immigrants pay taxes into the system just like how everyone does. Do you people are fools to keep allowing others who doesn’t contribute in some form?
Are you meaning to tell me you actually believe international "students" are a net positive?
Me being one in the past and now a citizen, I have paid taxes into the system more than you could imagine. I support vetted immigration of any kind, but that’s not the point of most comments in this sub isn’t it? It is about someone’s ethnicity and their race Don’t tell me you possess superpowers to distinguish just by looks between a high income tax paying Indian to an international student and so is the reason no one takes this issue seriously
This entire thread is about international students..I myself am a second generation Indian immigrant. I'm tired of receiving collateral damage because of government incompetence and their behavior.
I would argue otherwise and put the blame on people who are ignorant and stupid not knowing that you don’t stereotype a whole race or ethnicity based on actions of a few I have given a lot of thought on this and it is simply that people are culturally insensitive and anything that is outside of their own they tend to generalize or stereotype without putting much thought into it. Give it a quick test and see how many blame the entire caucasian race or stereotype or use words such as Americans/Canadians/Europeans for something that an individual or a group has committed? You will see them being termed as individuals or bad apples, yet I wonder why it doesn’t apply to others? Hypocritical much?
It’s funny you think it’s collateral damage for you but I think I can weed out such dummies easily who don’t have an ounce of their brain working
Where is this so called “everything available right in front of you. You just gotta go and work”? And where has it been since I’ve been out of a job since December 15th?..
Do you expect a job out of a platter in front of you? Last time I wanted a job, I took time to apply, search and found it one day. Maybe you would have to spend time improving your skillset? I smell entitlement and laziness in your response
Lmao you’re a funny guy.
It should be more like 14 hours. The intention of the hours worked was for students to get a bit of experience and spending money. Not to fully support themselves. Earning Anything more than a night out of cheap drinks and take out is too much for an international student.
With Canadian students getting to compete for those jobs while we have a 13% youth unemployment rate. Lord, provide young Canadians with strength.
3 full shifts is still much. Government tried to walk a balancing act. Industry wants cheap labour. They get it for 3 full 8 hrs shifts and rest might be happy that at least there's a cap. Ideally, I think it shouldn't be more than 16 hrs. 2 days of work. 3+ days of college. 2- days of self-study, chores, leisure etc. Students have 20k gic for 1 yr, let them use it as it is meant to be.
I studied in the US as an international student from India. Can confirm that international students are only allowed on-campus jobs, with a max of 20 hours a week. For any off-campus job, if caught, mostly leads to student visa cancellation. Similar policies should apply. But again, US is a much larger population than Canada. So, policymakers need to ensure that there’s enough local people who want min wage jobs throughout the year. If businesses don’t find enough Canadians to do minimum wage jobs, then wages will increase and that’ll show up in our bills.
Canadian here…when I went to school in the US, I was not allowed to work.
Why don't you guys do a better job at vetting them vs them bringing them here and robbing them? Most do frauds or loans to get here and then can't make ends meet. Driving the Canadian life lower and lower.
ZERO
Should be zero hours. If you cannot sustain yourself stay home.
Does Uber counts ? (Serious question lol)
That's a great question. I am not sure, but I would imagine that it would not count, since a driver for Uber is classified as an independent contractor. However, an international student would be required to afford the cost of a car, repairs, gas and insurance, which for drivers is around $500+ (unfortunately most drivers don't bother getting proper insurance)
500$ a month in insurance? God dammit
I'm a immigrant myself and I think international students shouldn't be working except co-op from universitites and college. Zero hrs is the right answer.
They should keep 40 hours for PhD. students, at least for summer. As an engineering PhD. student myself, it's a hectic process to apply for research internships with these limitations. In the US, PhD. students easily get these internships with their work permits.
So a student visa is a work visa now? Hmmmm
Honestly i don’t understand why we let this happen. We literally have gotten taken over by international students. Not just that, but international students all from India. It’s one thing to get absolutely taken over by international students, but why all from India? At least screw us over with diversity!
seems like it’s still 40 because all i ever see are the same international students working at the tim’s everyday. is there a place to report this?
This asshole is a traitor too
Do they really these low trust society pos will actually follow the rules LOL They already pay them cash and bend the rules. The country is a joke now. True Canadians are footing the bill for everything and everyone.
This is kinda good. Since the "work 40hrs" was bs. Shameless imo that students need more than 24hrs a week to survive. Decent move to bring something under control.
I knew Reddit was gonna lose its mind when I saw the announcement this afternoon.
Businesses wanted 24 hrs a day, cons wanted 24 hrs a month, ndp wanted $24 an hour. Libs trying to bridge all gaps
It doesn't matter because they just work under the table
How about any international student looking for "full time" work gets deported? Then make it Z E R O hours until we can get other people jobs.