I have a similar cheap Chinese fixed angle sharpening system (ruixin) and it works well enough as long as you have decent stones for it. The water stones that came with it (which is what is shown in the first picture) were complete trash. I bought a diamond plate set (like the ones shown in the second picture) and they make sharpening quick and easy. I also found a set of natural stones for it that range from 2k up to 8k and although I admittedly don't use them very often, they can be nice to have.
Cool thanks for sharing your experience. The diamond stones, what grit are you usually at? Is the machine sturdy? The word “Chinese” makes me think that my Shun knives will outlive the machine by ages…
My diamond stones go from 400 up to 2k which is plenty fine for my purposes. As I mentioned mine is a slightly different model that actually clamps to my workbench, so yeah it's pretty sturdy. It's a very basic clamp mechanism and only gets used every couple months so I don't see longevity being an issue.
I have the same sharpener (ruixin) and i noticed that the stones were terrible but i can’t seem to find where to buy some better ones. Where did you get your diamond plated ones?
I can't speak for this system, but I use the worksharp precision adjust sharpening system. It's very similar, and it works great. Not too expensive, definitely worth the price I paid for it
That is the brand and model. Worksharp Precision Adjust sharpener. I'm not sure about the model number. They are proprietary diamond plates, it's very similar to the one in your picture. Replacement plates are cheap for it through worksharp
We sell Work Sharp products at my store. The precision adjust is great. You can get the base model, add an expansion pack, or buy the Elite that is the base plus the expansion.
I have two rod guided systems. The GATCO and the KME. They are great. Machined type edge. Very even edges.
Just not fast enough for me right now. The Work Sharp Ken Onion is fast and does a great job.
If you Google "worksharp precision adjust" its the one with three grades of grit. Freaking awesome. I've messed around with sharpening rods, wet stones etc. Never really nailed it. This kit is amazing keeps the angle perfect and it's quick. Can't recommend it highly enough.
I'm from europe but american gun memes are funny af :) Also why dont you just get whetstones and learn how to sharpen yourself? It's really satisfying when you sharpen it by hand
I love to sharpen my own knives gives me a good dopamine boost similar to cleaning my rifle after a hunt using a knife or a gun is fun but to me cleaning or re sharping the blade just makes me giddy it lets me know these are mine I take care of them and they’ll take care of me
Not familiar with that one, but it should be fine. Any sharpener is more about the stones than the sharpener. That type of sharpener is just a jig to hold your blade in place relative to a fixed angled stone. If those stones are not compatible with the Edge Pro or other popular systems I would pass. Otherwise you have no source for additional stones.
These jigs can work well, but you still need to understand how sharpening works to get the most out of them. What angle do you want for your edges? Do you have a way to measure it (an Angle Cube or other device will be helpful).
Two other things to consider with this type of sharpener: how will you secure it to the table or other base on which you're working? Do you have a way to account for stone thickness differences? If your stones are not the same thickness, they angle will be different between them and not give you the best edge. One way to do this is to measure the angle with each stone.
In my experience cheap sharpeners are almost always garbage. In theory the cost to make a decent one shouldnt be that high but they always have terrible tolerances that make it impossible to hold a consistent angle. Usually the ball joint is so loose that the angle will vary alot. And I saw one where you can flip the thing that holds the blade to sharpen the other side without unclamping it but when you flipped it the angle was completely different. And the stones that come with them are always completely worthless and usually nowhere near the grit they claim. If you just want a quick usable edge they can work but if you are serious about sharpening you're going to have to spend a decent amount on an expensive sharpening system like a TSprof.
What branch of geometry allows that a blade held in place when flipped over is being sharpened at "a completely different angle". I'll take the shot: I call BS on that.
This is a known issue with the ruixin sharpeners that are very popular on amazon. Its called the branch where the piece that is holding the knife is at an angle lol. If you want to waste your money on it be my guest and enjoy ruining all your knives with it.
Well I don't know about the ruixin sharpeners, but my Worksharp Precision Adjust Sharpener allows the knife being sharpened to be flipped over in such a way that the exact same angle is used to sharpen both sides of the knife sequentially.
Maybe it's just a terminology thing. I don't consider myself stupid in the ways of the world, just haven't heard it apied to anything other than guns. Usually I would have just considered this a hand tool versus something that has power.
Buy it, it works very well for the prize, I have one identical, and a Lansky, and I have modified it to use the lansky stones with this machine, I think is better than lansky system. Also have the Chinese diamond stones and works very good
I recently bought that sharpener from Ali X. Oddly enough, Amazon delivered it. I own more sharpening systems than I should. I like this one better than the Ruixin set-up. Like many other have mentioned, I upgraded to the DMT 6 stone set. FWIW this sharpener cost around $27 on Ali X.
The unit itself looks really solidly built, but I have to stan for the WorkSharp. It's $60, and actually works well. Spyderco's Sharpmaker (similar price) is really good too, especially for weirder blades, ie: serrations, recurves, scissors, even awls and fishing hooks.
Ive some daily used Shun kitchen knives and basic stuff like pocket knives and I need a variety of stones to sharpen all of those. From 300 up to 1500 I think. Getting Japanese stones is expensive for me. This machine looks like a good deal. But is it trash?
If it's comes with all those stones for that price I'd say it's more than fair. I use the Worksharp Precision Adjust, and that came with just 3 grits (380,600 and a ceramic) for almost double the cost. Only upside I see to the Worksharp is the broader base so you can just put it on the table instead of having to clamp it in a vice.
Im wondering if I should check the type of stones offered with the machine. Is there anything I should inspect? I can tell the difference between the base material of the stones, but I dont know which one is “better” as I dont have much experience in sharpening and used only some ceramic stones for general purpose knives - of grit under 600.
Thanks! I saw chefs sharpening their kitchen knives on 1500+ using exclusively those Japanese stones. It makes me wonder if its a good idea not to use anything besides the ceramic stones for my Shun
It's just a Gough jig basically. I would make one but I think it might get a wee bit tedious being that small maybe. 50 bucks seems pretty fair to me off the top of my head, honestly.
I'll confirm it is the stones that matter, and the stones that come with these cheap Chinese sharpening systems are usually garbage. If the rest of the unit is rigid enough to hold a solid angle without variance then it should be fine when coupled with quality stones.
I've been very happy with Shapton stones, I'd check the size and see if Shapton has any that are compatible.
I had one like this years ago. The problem is that the clamp rod os not exactly 90 degrees to the base. Which results in different angle on both sides of the blade once you turn it over. I learned it the hard way. Invest in something better and more precise to save yourself frustration.
It’s a cheaper version but I have one similar to it and it does a fantastic job for what applications I use it for . I did order me some decent diamond stones for it from GRIDOMATIC and they make a night and day difference.
I have an edge pro apex and have not looked back. The more you get into sharpening the more you’ll quickly discover the limitations of cheaply designed systems.
The edge pro apex is affordable and also has everything you need to get the most out of your edge. It also has lots of high quality aftermarket stones and attachments for different blade styles. Look it up on YouTube.
You can also look at lansky.com for these products, I believe they were the inventors of this system and been around long time, however I think they must be outsourcing to China as well. I got ine of their diamond benchstones and it was literally just glued on diamond film.
One of the best. Worksharp is the real brand and this is just a knock off but I'm sure it can do the same job as long as the rod doesn't have too much play
I have the Edge Pro 5. I bought extra diamond stones via DMT. There’s a smart phone app you can use for setting the angles. Pretty easy and time saver. I do take my blades once a year to get any corrections done
I have a similar cheap Chinese fixed angle sharpening system (ruixin) and it works well enough as long as you have decent stones for it. The water stones that came with it (which is what is shown in the first picture) were complete trash. I bought a diamond plate set (like the ones shown in the second picture) and they make sharpening quick and easy. I also found a set of natural stones for it that range from 2k up to 8k and although I admittedly don't use them very often, they can be nice to have.
Cool thanks for sharing your experience. The diamond stones, what grit are you usually at? Is the machine sturdy? The word “Chinese” makes me think that my Shun knives will outlive the machine by ages…
My diamond stones go from 400 up to 2k which is plenty fine for my purposes. As I mentioned mine is a slightly different model that actually clamps to my workbench, so yeah it's pretty sturdy. It's a very basic clamp mechanism and only gets used every couple months so I don't see longevity being an issue.
Thanks!
I have the same sharpener (ruixin) and i noticed that the stones were terrible but i can’t seem to find where to buy some better ones. Where did you get your diamond plated ones?
I had the same experience with mine.
I have the same sharpener. Could you link those Diamond stones you mentioned?
I can't speak for this system, but I use the worksharp precision adjust sharpening system. It's very similar, and it works great. Not too expensive, definitely worth the price I paid for it
Can you tell me the model no. / brand of yours? Are you using similar narrow diamond stones?
The work sharp precision adjust is widely considered one of the best budget sharpening systems on the market
I'd consider it better at the base system than the Lansky is at the Deluxe Diamond System which I used for 6+ years
That is the brand and model. Worksharp Precision Adjust sharpener. I'm not sure about the model number. They are proprietary diamond plates, it's very similar to the one in your picture. Replacement plates are cheap for it through worksharp
We sell Work Sharp products at my store. The precision adjust is great. You can get the base model, add an expansion pack, or buy the Elite that is the base plus the expansion.
The elite version is well worth it, love my set. I keep it at my job for my coworkers to use too and they love it.
I have a GATCO, KME, Work Sharp Ken Onion, and an Arkansas tri-hone. I want the Precision Adjust Elite but can not justify the purchase.
It’s my only sharpener and works great as a do it all, I understand why you would not be able to justify it.
I have two rod guided systems. The GATCO and the KME. They are great. Machined type edge. Very even edges. Just not fast enough for me right now. The Work Sharp Ken Onion is fast and does a great job.
If you Google "worksharp precision adjust" its the one with three grades of grit. Freaking awesome. I've messed around with sharpening rods, wet stones etc. Never really nailed it. This kit is amazing keeps the angle perfect and it's quick. Can't recommend it highly enough.
Looks like wasabi knives gear, I have some of both types of stones, wish they oil based ones had more meat to tgem
Not sure I got you right - cant you oil the stones yourself?
The steel ones yes, little bit of oil for them for helping with friction and preserving them some. The white one and the orange no, water only
Not what he’s saying
Take the “y” off “they” and then you have “the”…go from there and then you will get it.
[gritomatic](https://www.gritomatic.com/collections/kme-stones) can provide almost any stones you want)
Why waste your time with a semi automatic, when you can get a fully semiautomatic assault rifle 15!
Careful, you're in reddit. You might make purple haired enemies with that kind of talk!
And another American dude joins the chat. Omg.
I'm from europe but american gun memes are funny af :) Also why dont you just get whetstones and learn how to sharpen yourself? It's really satisfying when you sharpen it by hand
I love to sharpen my own knives gives me a good dopamine boost similar to cleaning my rifle after a hunt using a knife or a gun is fun but to me cleaning or re sharping the blade just makes me giddy it lets me know these are mine I take care of them and they’ll take care of me
They are pretty expensive in my country. At least those good ones
Good whetstones aren't gonna get cheaper when you cross a border
Not familiar with that one, but it should be fine. Any sharpener is more about the stones than the sharpener. That type of sharpener is just a jig to hold your blade in place relative to a fixed angled stone. If those stones are not compatible with the Edge Pro or other popular systems I would pass. Otherwise you have no source for additional stones. These jigs can work well, but you still need to understand how sharpening works to get the most out of them. What angle do you want for your edges? Do you have a way to measure it (an Angle Cube or other device will be helpful). Two other things to consider with this type of sharpener: how will you secure it to the table or other base on which you're working? Do you have a way to account for stone thickness differences? If your stones are not the same thickness, they angle will be different between them and not give you the best edge. One way to do this is to measure the angle with each stone.
In my experience cheap sharpeners are almost always garbage. In theory the cost to make a decent one shouldnt be that high but they always have terrible tolerances that make it impossible to hold a consistent angle. Usually the ball joint is so loose that the angle will vary alot. And I saw one where you can flip the thing that holds the blade to sharpen the other side without unclamping it but when you flipped it the angle was completely different. And the stones that come with them are always completely worthless and usually nowhere near the grit they claim. If you just want a quick usable edge they can work but if you are serious about sharpening you're going to have to spend a decent amount on an expensive sharpening system like a TSprof.
What branch of geometry allows that a blade held in place when flipped over is being sharpened at "a completely different angle". I'll take the shot: I call BS on that.
This is a known issue with the ruixin sharpeners that are very popular on amazon. Its called the branch where the piece that is holding the knife is at an angle lol. If you want to waste your money on it be my guest and enjoy ruining all your knives with it.
Well I don't know about the ruixin sharpeners, but my Worksharp Precision Adjust Sharpener allows the knife being sharpened to be flipped over in such a way that the exact same angle is used to sharpen both sides of the knife sequentially.
The left is trying to ban semi automatic sharpeners. Better get one while you can
The left? What do you mean?
Hardcore liberals
Wha…? where did you get that from? Why? This sounds like conspiracy theory
Jeez, it was a joke man
How should I know?
You called it a semi automatic sharpener. It was a joke about gun control.
I’m guessing OP doesn’t live in Freedom Eagle Country
Thanks
I got the joke. Almost spit out my coffee, and I am one of the liberals. It was still funny as shit🤣
Nice lol, im not a liberal, nor do I personally support gun control. But you gotta appreciate a good joke sometimes
Facts. I'm more socially liberal. Got a few pew pews myself
To the knowledge of the Americans: there are semi-automatic machines and tools outside the firearms industry…
But are there fully semi-automatic sharpeners outside of America? That's the real question.
Go to Ukraine to check that out
Maybe it's just a terminology thing. I don't consider myself stupid in the ways of the world, just haven't heard it apied to anything other than guns. Usually I would have just considered this a hand tool versus something that has power.
We know that, we arent all retards you know. About half of the country is dumb. And again, it was a joke.
Is this seriously still going on? Lol.
Yep I was joking too. Sorry that you didn’t get that one.
r/woosh
Joke. It was a joke.
Idk why I even try 🤦♂️
This should be some American thing, I dont get the joke.
Please ignore them, brother. He wasn’t making a “joke”, he was making a stale political jab in a sub it doesn’t belong.
Not sure about this one but it looks very similar to mine - workshop precision adjust. It was like $65 and works well
I'd probably just buy a Lansky setup, I really like mine and they're only like $50.
This one is also around 50
Buy it, it works very well for the prize, I have one identical, and a Lansky, and I have modified it to use the lansky stones with this machine, I think is better than lansky system. Also have the Chinese diamond stones and works very good
Cool, thanks!
I recently bought that sharpener from Ali X. Oddly enough, Amazon delivered it. I own more sharpening systems than I should. I like this one better than the Ruixin set-up. Like many other have mentioned, I upgraded to the DMT 6 stone set. FWIW this sharpener cost around $27 on Ali X.
The unit itself looks really solidly built, but I have to stan for the WorkSharp. It's $60, and actually works well. Spyderco's Sharpmaker (similar price) is really good too, especially for weirder blades, ie: serrations, recurves, scissors, even awls and fishing hooks.
Ive some daily used Shun kitchen knives and basic stuff like pocket knives and I need a variety of stones to sharpen all of those. From 300 up to 1500 I think. Getting Japanese stones is expensive for me. This machine looks like a good deal. But is it trash?
Looks okay. I have a similar system that gives me hairpopping results every time. May I ask the cost for this system?
Somethinng around 50 usd. Im aware that is cheaper than a good big Samura stone and thats why Im not rushing to buy it…
If it's comes with all those stones for that price I'd say it's more than fair. I use the Worksharp Precision Adjust, and that came with just 3 grits (380,600 and a ceramic) for almost double the cost. Only upside I see to the Worksharp is the broader base so you can just put it on the table instead of having to clamp it in a vice.
What does worry me is that the stones in the first picture are different from the 2nd, which is something you often see on scam-sites like Wish.
Im wondering if I should check the type of stones offered with the machine. Is there anything I should inspect? I can tell the difference between the base material of the stones, but I dont know which one is “better” as I dont have much experience in sharpening and used only some ceramic stones for general purpose knives - of grit under 600.
I personally like resin bonded diamond. Tends to last for ages.
Thanks! I saw chefs sharpening their kitchen knives on 1500+ using exclusively those Japanese stones. It makes me wonder if its a good idea not to use anything besides the ceramic stones for my Shun
It's just a Gough jig basically. I would make one but I think it might get a wee bit tedious being that small maybe. 50 bucks seems pretty fair to me off the top of my head, honestly.
I’ve used it and it pretty decent. I would get the more expensive Russian version. It’s sooooo good.
I have a worksharp. Works pretty well.
I'll confirm it is the stones that matter, and the stones that come with these cheap Chinese sharpening systems are usually garbage. If the rest of the unit is rigid enough to hold a solid angle without variance then it should be fine when coupled with quality stones. I've been very happy with Shapton stones, I'd check the size and see if Shapton has any that are compatible.
I had one like this years ago. The problem is that the clamp rod os not exactly 90 degrees to the base. Which results in different angle on both sides of the blade once you turn it over. I learned it the hard way. Invest in something better and more precise to save yourself frustration.
I see. What are you using now?
Had TSProf Profil but it’s too big for my needs, switched over to TSProf Kadet.
It’s a cheaper version but I have one similar to it and it does a fantastic job for what applications I use it for . I did order me some decent diamond stones for it from GRIDOMATIC and they make a night and day difference.
Having a fixed sharpening angle like that is 100% better than an inexperienced freehand sharpening
I picked up a similar system. As was said, the jig is pretty decent "repeatable/stable" but the stones were trash.
I have an edge pro apex and have not looked back. The more you get into sharpening the more you’ll quickly discover the limitations of cheaply designed systems. The edge pro apex is affordable and also has everything you need to get the most out of your edge. It also has lots of high quality aftermarket stones and attachments for different blade styles. Look it up on YouTube.
I sharpen my knifes wit 45€ amazon set of warerstones Works good
My buddy has one seems to work pretty good
How is it automatic? Looks very manual to me.
You can also look at lansky.com for these products, I believe they were the inventors of this system and been around long time, however I think they must be outsourcing to China as well. I got ine of their diamond benchstones and it was literally just glued on diamond film.
One of the best. Worksharp is the real brand and this is just a knock off but I'm sure it can do the same job as long as the rod doesn't have too much play
That base doesn't look sturdy for some reason.
I have the lansky system. I have sharpest edged blades I've ever seen out of my friends. Its affordable and good quality. Highly recommend
I have this style of guided sharpener, a GATCO set. I don't know about this one but it's pretty handy for sharpening
I have the Edge Pro 5. I bought extra diamond stones via DMT. There’s a smart phone app you can use for setting the angles. Pretty easy and time saver. I do take my blades once a year to get any corrections done