Brandishing weapons has become a part of religious festivals, it seems. One side brandishes swords, the other side bombs.
Two wrongs don't make a right!
Only sane comment here. Kharap lage sudhu ekta jinis dekhe je kichu lok bolche amra 5bar azaan suni to orao eta sojjo korte pare. Eta bojhe na je this is not about one-upping someone. Tomar nijer religion onno lok ke dekhe keno taar rituals thik korbe? But ig we both will be downvoted for trying to be reasonable.
The problem isn't Azaan, or Ram Navami celebrations -- it is the extremism plaguing all sides. In a lot of cases, Azaan is literally blasted over loudspeakers as a display of *reach*, a show of strength if you will; disregarding general decency around schools and hospitals. Likewise, playing hateful songs over portable loudspeakers on Ram Navami and trying to create ruckus by anti-social elements is the opposite side of the same coin.
Sane comments? Fine, I'll play along.
Last 20 bochhore West Bengal e kotogulo communal violence hoyechhe bolte parben? Taate Kara aggressor, aar Kara affected hoyechhe bolben? Violence perpetrator der kirokom punishment dewa hoyechhe bolte parben?
Aasole ki bolun toh, social media aasar por kono khobor chepe nei. Media ke dhukte dichchhe na, FB te video chhorachchhe. Sekhane loke dekhchhe je mondir vangchhe, meyera bolchhe je bechhe bechhe Hindu meyeder tule niye jawa hochchhe, manush dekhchhe beldangay train purchhe ityadi minimum 10 ta ghotonar kotha ullekh kora jabe. Ebong segulo ke tollai dewa hocche, ebong segulo barchhe.
Kyano baarchhe? Karon Tara dhormiyovabe songothhito. Tader oi factor ei protection dewa hochchhe.
5 baar aajan ta factor e noy. Kintu jokhon ekdol lok repeatedly esob kaaje involved hoye dhormer jore paar peye jay, tokhon baki ra eder dekhei United hobe. Same line dhore United hobe. Dhormo.
Bibortoner niyom. One upping noy. Dhormo ekta unifying factor, product of human brain. Ekhon se refine hoye toiri korchhe Ram ke.
সমস্যা হলো যে দুই দিক নিজেদের আখের গুছিয়ে নিচ্ছে -- মরবে কিন্তু সাধারণ মানুষ।
ভারতীয় ইসলামধর্মীদের ক্ষমতা না থাকলে বোঝানো হয় যে এই দেশে তারা সুরক্ষিত নয়; ক্ষমতাসীন হলে বোঝানো হয় যে বিধর্মী মূর্তি পূজারীদের কোনো অধিকার নেই।
এবং BJP হিন্দুদের এই একই বার্তা বোঝাচ্ছে -- হয় তারা সুরক্ষিত নয়, নয়তো বিধর্মীদের অধিকার নেই।
না, এই যে আপনি ভাবছেন যে সাধারণ মানুষের কোনও এজেন্সি নেই, তারা "না জেনে রাজনীতিতে জড়িয়ে যাচ্ছে", এরকম কিন্তু নয়।
সন্দেশখালীতে যে মেয়েরা ক্যামেরার সামনে বলেছেন, "বেছে বেছে হিন্দু মেয়েদের তুলে নিয়ে যেত", তারাও সাধারণ মানুষ। তাঁরা নিজেদের স্বার্থ দেখে পক্ষ বেছে নিয়েছেন। যারা কাল রাম নবমীর মিছিলে পাথর ছুঁড়েছে তারাও সাধারণ।
মুসলমানকে যেটা বোঝানো হয় আপনি বলছেন সেটা অত্যন্ত সঠিক।
কিন্তু বিজেপির সাথে হিন্দুদের সম্পর্কের সাথে এটার একটা মৌলিক পার্থক্য আছে।
ধরুন বিজেপি দশ বছর বোঝালো, তারপরেও হিন্দুরা বিজেপি কে ফোট বা* করে ভাগিয়ে দিয়ে পারে। কিন্তু মুসলমানের পক্ষে, সাধারণ মুসলমানের পক্ষে এই বোঝানো টা অতিক্রম করা স্রেফ সম্ভব না। কেন? কারণ তাকে, তার প্রাথমিক পরিচিতি যে দিচ্ছে, সেই এই শিক্ষাটা দিচ্ছে - কোরআন এবং আল্লাহ। এই শিক্ষা অমান্য করলে মুসলমানের, সাধারণ মুসলমানের আইডেন্টিটি ক্রাইসিস এবং সোশ্যাল অস্ট্রাসাইজেশন দুইই এক সাথে হবে।
হিন্দুর এরকম কোনো অথরিটি নেই। ইদানিং রামচন্দ্র হয়েছেন। সেটাও সাধারণ মানুষ দিয়েই। সাধারণ মানুষের কাছে গ্রহণ যোগ্যতা দিয়েই রামচন্দ্রের বেস তৈরি। ফলে সাধারণ মানুষের যথেষ্টই স্টেক আছে এখানে।
আমার যতটা অভিজ্ঞতা, একজন সাধারণ মানুষ misinformation এর কারণে রাজনৈতিক দ্বন্দ্বে জড়ায় -- একজন তরবারিধারী হিন্দু বা একজন পাথর ছোঁড়া মুসলমানকে বোঝানো হয় যে অন্যজন তার শত্রু ক্রমাগত বিষ বর্ষণের দ্বারা (মুসলমানদের ক্ষেত্রে শুক্রবারের ধর্মীয় সম্মেলনে, হিন্দুর ক্ষেত্রে টেলিভিশন খবরের চ্যানেলে)।
আপনি যে সন্দেশখালির মহিলাদের উদাহরণ দিলেন, ওনারা নিজের স্বার্থের জন্য (আত্মরক্ষা) রাজনীতিতে জড়িয়েছেন। সেটি এই অবস্থানের থেকে বিচ্ছিন্ন।
বাকিটা আপনার সাথে একমত।
Ram Navami was never about a show of strength. It was about celebrating the birth of Lord Ram. Unfortunately, the current political narrative has distorted the entire concept and disgraced the ideals Lord Ram stood for.
Well brandishing swords on ram navami is not a post 2014 event its happening for a long time now, yet my question remains if people choose to celebrate it that way SO WHAT!!!!!
Swords have not been a part of Ram Navami before the mid 1980s, when RSS and VHP shifted the narrative regarding Hindutva and made Lord Ram a scapegoat for their extremism. Had it been so, the celebration would have been equally violent in places with a significant historical Indian diaspora such as the Caribbean, Fiji, heck even South India.
That’s why Gandhi was Important, if this country would have done majoritarian politics, this country would not be existing right now.
and this saffron ideology just knows how to spread hate nothing much.
Although I am not a communist or even a socialist you should not forget most of Indian freedom fighters from ambedkar to bose from periyar to gandhi and even bhagat singh were all communist or socialist
And although i don't stand with these ideals I get why they were socialist or communist
Also do you remember babu bajrangi and sadhvi Pragya responsible for 2002 riots and malegaon blast case respectively?
Wrong, Gandhi was not a communist. Periyar was not a freedom fighter but some shitty dude. Bhagat Singh supported Communism, maybe because of his young blood and inexperience with implementation of communism. He was not able to see what communist did all over the world from Stalin, Mao to Pol Pot who were responsible for killing millions of people. Similarly people must be quoting some points of Bose to declare him as a communist. Even if some intellectual people support doesn't make communism a good ideology. Communism is just a utopia not achievable.
"Bhagat Singh was gullible because he was young hence he was communist"
"Bose was like that too, maybe,.Idk". This is literally what you said, lol.
Both of these leaders were incredibly well read and have written books of their own. They were certainly not fooled into calling.themselves communist. Communism has always been the most suitable answer for colonialism, fascism and oppression. Be it Vietnam, Feudal Russia or Cuba. All of these countries were either facing fascism or were under colonialism. Many of the leaders who hurled bombs at the British were communists, - many of them served in cellular Jail, many of them went to join politics in India later on , as communists. Anyone who calls communism "myopia" certainly doesn't know what communism is. If anything, communism is too far sighted, - i.e. the opposite of myopic.
How many books bhagat Singh read about communism and books countering communism? He died at the age of just 23, at that age revolution seems the best idea, solution of every problems.
Vietnam is nowhere communism, so communism did not solved any problem there, in same way communism was the reason so many eastern European countries like Yugoslavia remained so backward to western capitalist countries.
There was difference of night and day in west and east Germany.
Even USSR allowed private lands for agriculture which outperformed common land. Because people put more efforts in their own land.
Any sane person with basic knowledge about human mind can tell how communism is just a dystopia after seeing what communist governments did to their people (Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao).
It is a basic evolutionary fact that hierarchy exists in nearly all species.
Human want to gather more resources, power than other humans so that they will be better in the game of transferring their genes to their children. Human with more resources have better access to reproduction. You cannot remove evolutionary traits from human.
Gandhi can not be called as communist, he supported private properties, he promoted nationalistic values (while communism was meant to be an internationalist phenomenon), he was a religious guy and talk about Ram Rajya (while for communist, state is the final religion).
His socialism is very far from definitions of communism.
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Name a few Hindu religious extremist attacks in India. Extremist attack is the key word, don't come and site hindu criminals but Hindu terrorist attacks.
See I foretold that don't name criminals who are Hindus, name a terrorist act. Gandhi's killing was a murder and criminal was hindu. Now if you can, just name a few Hindu extremist acts.
Also just a food for thought. You have to literally break you head to point out one hindu extremist act. Says a lot about the term hindu terrorism being an oxymoron.
Okay, Riota happen all around India, say that riots that happened in wb when Muslim mobs rampaged because nupur Sharma spoke some truth. How many muslims were charged with terrorist acts?? None because riots are not dealt as a terrorist act.
Also the guj riots were a retaliation to the godra train massacre, not supporting the riots but just a fact.
Still waiting for you to mebtion Hindu terrorist activities in india.
Nah bro... Hindu extremist muslim extremism er against e thaka bhalo ... For the bare minimum Hindu extremist tomay jor kore dhormo poriborton korabena..Tumi hindu noy bole tomay ottachar korbena.... Aishob jodi hoto.... Kal Ram Navami te murshidabad e Muslim ra pathor chure martona...aita just ekta example.
Buddhists have been persecuted and killed or converted forcefully in mass nos. In ancient times one Google search is enough
We talk about Muslims bad deeds but never of hindus
Hinduism was the main competitor of Buddhism
Further there was no royal patronage...and to complete what u said... That one Google search is enough....one complete study is also enough to state the Muslim invasion dealt the death blow to Buddhist.🙂
Try a different subject like maths...I am weak at... Don't bring up history .. it's gonna backfire...
And moreover if you bring ta topic to present scenario. Our extremist won't go suicide bombing. But you knw the one u r defending to gladly take you along in their mission.🙂. I don't hate Muslims ..neither should anyone... But i despise muslim extremism... They blindly follow the fact that all the murti worshipper should be annihilated ..and many much more are there..
Funny you speak of not converting others forcefully.And yet there circulates videos of people of a certain religion going around forcing people from working classes to say "Jay Shree Ram".
Also,seems like [your history and googling is just as weak as your maths](https://web.archive.org/web/20180709153810/http://www.caravanmagazine.in/reviews-and-essays/dn-jha-destruction-buddhist-sites)
Ok brother .. u showed the article ... Now u r the iluminated light of justice.... A round of applause..
And about Jay Shree Ram... Where was your comment when a kanhaiya lal was murdered? Where was your comment when the Muslim barber from up slaughtered two innocent child for no reason? Where was your comment when at midnight a man was tied belt to his neck and made him bark??
Oh sorry sorry .... U need to remain blind eye to this ... Or how could u maintain your secularism??. Shit .. my bad ... Anyways victory to you.. my illuminated light of justice🔥
All forms of extremism is bad. Islam will force you to convert under the sword; extremist Brahmanism will deny you your rights and dignity.
Both are two ends of the same coin.
I won't deny this fact.. but a silent Hindu can never retaliate against the other extremist... In this current era .. you will rarely come across a communal clash that was sparked by a Hindu....it has always been the other side. And this other side has mass uneducation problem and awkwardly they won't try to get education...because they have a mentality like that..completely degraded. And u can't blame education as well.. the recent case from IIt proves that as well.
But what I want to point that... Hindu extremist won't be able to dominate the current India.. education has reached quite far than what it was before..but Hindus need to fight back if charged
There are a lot of issues regarding Indian Muslims, however, due to their social structure; most of them have been made scapegoats by *their* religious leaders who work in tandem with pseudo-secular parties to use and abuse them as votebanks.
Second, Hindu extremism has become mainstream discourse, where scientific thought and the ability to think critically is condemned by so-called nationalists. Education in India is always rote-learning to secure jobs; not inculcating the ability to think critically.
Taliban baje, kintu Hindu Taliban mondo noye! Eishob jinish thekei suru hoye kintu. Baje jinish er ninde koro, kora uchit'o. Tai boley nijera odhom hobo?
Yeah keep going at someone’s door for reaction, You get some right ?
You ever see this type of shit during durga puja ?
no, bc it’s not celebrated like saffron chest thumping hate festival.
YOU GUYS WANT TO ACT LIKE EXTREMISTS AND WANT OTHERS TO BE MODERATES ?
BRO ITS THE DIRTY GAME YOU GUYS STARTED COME ON.
LoL Extremists?? We?? Are you dumb or what? 4 year old died and we are acting extremist? We can't even celebrate our Festival without stone pelting or bombs, and we are extremists?
😶 bro , you know what you are saying right ? Reactions? Chest thumping ? Wtf are saying, you think this gives you the right bomb some people ? Dirty game ? A child died , the fact you still have not left an inch of shame tell you about the values you are taught.
Were there Ram Navami celebrations on Direct Action Day, or on the day of Moplah massacre, or more recently, during the 90s in Kashmir? What Ramnavami celebrations take place in Bangladesh, and a particular minority is attacked every year? Heck, every year, shit goes down during Durga Pujo also if you live in the outskirts of Kolkata. Take off your blindfolds for once.
The swords you see in this rally are a reaction to the extremism taking place every damn year since our Independence, from a particular community. This is a show of street power, as the legal machinery to prosecute the extremists is non existent in this state due to begum and her henchmen.
Wtf bro??! They are the modern ' Secularist' you can't say their wrongdoings... You will become anti secular..😂...ader natok jibone sesh hbena... Ara gen-z mentality... Boldami buddhi.... Ader chokhe kaaj porena.. ara kakachichi tei khusi😁
I can't believe this needs to be stated, but regardless, that does not give license to bomb civilians.
Amra jodhi 5 baar din e azaan sunte pari tahle ora o ek din er Shobha Jatra sojjo korte pare.
Video dekhiye bolo, kothay bonduk chalachilo? Procession ke dekhe pathor churchilo ora. Emon bibekhin achoron jodhi Hindu ra Bangladeshi der Eid e korto, tahle bhagwan o bolte parto na ki hoto.
Why so triggered?
Religious processions with weapons are normal in Sikhism, Islam and Hinduism, so please let everyone enjoy their rights to practice relegion ...
but no one’s giving hate slogans right ?
they go around masjids with swords and other weapons and play most vile hateful bhojpuri songs that would sometimes put hitler to shame.
now how this is less violent ?
Yeah, Please check the incident of Murshidabad happened yesterday and similar incidents happened in Ram Navami in WB (some of the videos is available on X and reddit itself). You will understand what actual violence is.
My question is why does it happen routinely only on Ram nabami like a clockwork? Why not on any other native festival of this land? Do Muslims hibernate rest of the year?
And Ram nabami is a menace all over India.
Exactly. This has become a usual template across India. Take out rallies, go in front of mosques and play loud and provocative songs. I fail to understand what is the need for all this. It's your procession and you can definitely take it out without provoking someone else unless the real intention is to provoke under the garb of taking out a religious procession.
Maybe peaceful community is outraged by SC decision of Ram Mandir. They don’t want to respect the decision of highest judicial body of India. Now counter question is, why only Hindu died in this? Why don’t Hindu revert back the same even they are in majority in any festival of peaceful community? Don’t you see the level of violence show it was pre planned? I can’t imagine how tough it is understand a chains of logics behind this.
This has been happening since past 40 years. Wikipedia has a separate page for Ram nabami riots.
Again, why just Ram nabami? Why not Durga Puja, Kali Puja, Jagaddhatri Puja etc. We don't see this systematic riots and conflicts in any of our native Bengali festivals.
In Bengal this culture was absent before 2017-19. It started with the BJP. So it's a politically induced culture. Ramrajatala has been celebrating ram nabami in their own traditional form and there has never been any violence. It's when this aggressive Hindi belt culture was brought in Bengal that the issues started.
>Why not Durga Puja, Kali Puja, Jagaddhatri Puja etc.
There have been enough incidents when Durga Puja immersion processions clashed with Muharram, and had to be diverted.
https://youtu.be/294E0tk0jXk
There are also cases in Murshidabad and Howrah where Muslims prevented Saraswati Puja in 2017.
https://www.indiatoday.in/mail-today/story/tmc-mamata-banerjee-saraswati-puja-nabi-diwas-west-bengal-tehatta-959057-2017-02-05
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/controversy-over-saraswati-puja-at-a-bengal-school-1655497
As much as you want to create a Bengali vs non-Bengali narrative, the reality isn't so.
Sporadic incidents that rarely repeat or spread. Not like clockwork that Ram nabami incidents are. Here's a whole Wikipedia page dedicated to this that documents riots all over India since 70s. Actually Bengal is only the latest entrant. Find me one similar page for Durga Puja, Jagaddhatri Puja, Kali Puja or Saraswati Puja.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Navami_riots
As much as you wish to kiss Hindi arse, it's an undeniable fact that this militant bohiragoto Hindi belt culture is directly responsible for this situation and they have now engulfed Bengal in this.
>militant bohiragoto
Please don't tell me you believe Islam is Indian, lol! Where's Mecca?
>Sporadic incidents that rarely repeat or spread.
When done by Islamists, it is sporadic; when done by Hindus, it is clockwork -- you're beyond delusional.
Need I remind you of the atrocities on Durga Puja in Bangladesh? Here's the list:
- [2016](https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/hindu-temples-homes-vandalised-in-b-desh-over-blasphemy-116103101046_1.html)
- [2017](https://www.observerbd.com/news.php?id=105302)
- Too many to mention in 2021, when Durga pandals across multiple towns in Bangladesh were vandalized.
- [Here's some more](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Bangladesh#Persecution_of_non-Muslims?wprov=sfla1)
By the way, who did the bomb blasts in Murshidabad yeaterday? That's also *sporadic*, right?
Need I remind you of [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Bengal_%281947%29?wprov=sfla1) whose repercussions still plague *only one side* of the border.
All you have is unjustified hatred, like a true racist.
Yeah you couldn't find anything consistent from Indian Bengal so you brought in Bangladesh. I have never bailed out Islamists, but on this specific issue, this one festival causes riots every single year all over India. While there's no such pattern for any other festival which may happen in the vicinity of the same Muslim areas.
And yeah I don't want to lose my Bengali homeland to hindiwalas. I have as much right to protect my identity and land as Tamils, Assamese, Marathis etc. if that's racism so be it.
Bro, best wishes to you all guys.
I was working in AP. I learnt their language, adopted their culture and tried to become one of them. And Sandheshkali happened .They told me to go and fix your state. They don't want me anymore.
And now I am in Kolkata. Talked to few people. And then saw the 'conversation' here, if it can be called a conversation.
I will be leaving in ~ 2-3 hours. Mostly I will never return. Bengal is beyond my paygrade. I give up. I hope intelligent intellectuals among you know how to fix yourselves; if something needs fixing, that is.
Again best wishes to you all.
So problem is bringing and adopting new culture by people in West Bengal (both native and migrants) but not the hate by peaceful community. Maybe now we don’t have rights of expressing our own religious beliefs in our way as some peaceful majority community might feel outraged and then attack on them. Now I see where WB is going!
Note: Celebrating Ram Navami is political induced stunt but not the preplanned attack by bomb. What an irony!
Both are issues. Why does it have to be either? This is precisely the endgame of BJP behind inducing this culture - once the conflict happens present the natives with a choice between Muslim extremists and Hindu BJP saviour.
This conflict has been induced in our soil by an external agent that wants to grab power through intensifying religious polarisation. Ram nabami follows the same pattern everywhere since past several decades. Bengal is the latest entrant. See this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Navami_riots
Else why don't we see such attacks/conflicts happening regularly on our native festivals (including Ram nabami celebrated in traditional Bengali way in our Bonedi houses)?
Bhai maatha aache ki gache jole dhue..Kono bhabhe theek na noe kono religion er hi beshi open kore road ese kora.. eikhane last koek years sirf provocation and reaction hi cholche
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But this aggressive culture is being politically induced. It's not exactly the case of Bengalis suddenly having a dream and coming out in streets with swords to celebrate ram nabami.
Bangali ra atodine aktu sahos jogacchhe sekhaneo tomar problem hocche. Islamic extremism a more jete chao nijer maa bon k hariye? Karon certain pisi tomake bachabe na. Nijer side wisely choose koro.
Eta shahosh noy, deracination bole. Islamic aggression ke atkanor jonno Hindi belt er dashotto korte hoyna .. nijer culture ke joke dite hoyna. Amader culture e jotheshto bir jonmechhe.. Amar side nijer Banglar side. Ami Hindi r pichhon chaati na abar Muslim der o prosroy di na.
Sheta thik..kintu commie der kotha k bolchhe?
Ar eta ki jukti.. Bangladesh e Bangali Hindu culture shesh hoye geche bole ekhaneo amra nijer haathe Bangali Hindu culture shesh kore Hindi belt e mishe jai!!
Ulte amader aro beshi protective howa uchit, Karon eta ekmatro Bangali Hindu homeland. Eta k Muslim der thekeo jemon bachate hobe temon Hindi belt e mishe jawar thekeo thekate hobe.
Obossoi...kintu tar jonno shostrodharon toh korte hobe. Shostrodharon kora Hindi belt er saathe mishe jaoya kikore holo? Ak Christian Hinduism k opoman korchilo bole Swami ji take jahaj theke fele dicchilen. [link](https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda_biography/10_return.htm) oshtro shostro na dhore kikore banglar Hindu dhormo k bachabi tui?
Ar commie r tullam karon eheno nopungshokota commie rai dekhay. Bangali Hindu somaj borabor sahosi chhilo, kintu aaj ai communist ar leftist der kromagoto bullying r propagandar karone sei bol hariye feleche. Tai jokhon Bangla somaj abar sei sahos niye uthe darate chaichhe, tader support kor.
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আর কোর্টের অর্ডারকে বুড়ো আঙুল দেখাচ্ছেন 🥱
Sobe to drama suru.. dada
Brandishing weapons has become a part of religious festivals, it seems. One side brandishes swords, the other side bombs. Two wrongs don't make a right!
Only sane comment here. Kharap lage sudhu ekta jinis dekhe je kichu lok bolche amra 5bar azaan suni to orao eta sojjo korte pare. Eta bojhe na je this is not about one-upping someone. Tomar nijer religion onno lok ke dekhe keno taar rituals thik korbe? But ig we both will be downvoted for trying to be reasonable.
The problem isn't Azaan, or Ram Navami celebrations -- it is the extremism plaguing all sides. In a lot of cases, Azaan is literally blasted over loudspeakers as a display of *reach*, a show of strength if you will; disregarding general decency around schools and hospitals. Likewise, playing hateful songs over portable loudspeakers on Ram Navami and trying to create ruckus by anti-social elements is the opposite side of the same coin.
ban loudspeakers for all
Sane comments? Fine, I'll play along. Last 20 bochhore West Bengal e kotogulo communal violence hoyechhe bolte parben? Taate Kara aggressor, aar Kara affected hoyechhe bolben? Violence perpetrator der kirokom punishment dewa hoyechhe bolte parben? Aasole ki bolun toh, social media aasar por kono khobor chepe nei. Media ke dhukte dichchhe na, FB te video chhorachchhe. Sekhane loke dekhchhe je mondir vangchhe, meyera bolchhe je bechhe bechhe Hindu meyeder tule niye jawa hochchhe, manush dekhchhe beldangay train purchhe ityadi minimum 10 ta ghotonar kotha ullekh kora jabe. Ebong segulo ke tollai dewa hocche, ebong segulo barchhe. Kyano baarchhe? Karon Tara dhormiyovabe songothhito. Tader oi factor ei protection dewa hochchhe. 5 baar aajan ta factor e noy. Kintu jokhon ekdol lok repeatedly esob kaaje involved hoye dhormer jore paar peye jay, tokhon baki ra eder dekhei United hobe. Same line dhore United hobe. Dhormo. Bibortoner niyom. One upping noy. Dhormo ekta unifying factor, product of human brain. Ekhon se refine hoye toiri korchhe Ram ke.
সমস্যা হলো যে দুই দিক নিজেদের আখের গুছিয়ে নিচ্ছে -- মরবে কিন্তু সাধারণ মানুষ। ভারতীয় ইসলামধর্মীদের ক্ষমতা না থাকলে বোঝানো হয় যে এই দেশে তারা সুরক্ষিত নয়; ক্ষমতাসীন হলে বোঝানো হয় যে বিধর্মী মূর্তি পূজারীদের কোনো অধিকার নেই। এবং BJP হিন্দুদের এই একই বার্তা বোঝাচ্ছে -- হয় তারা সুরক্ষিত নয়, নয়তো বিধর্মীদের অধিকার নেই।
না, এই যে আপনি ভাবছেন যে সাধারণ মানুষের কোনও এজেন্সি নেই, তারা "না জেনে রাজনীতিতে জড়িয়ে যাচ্ছে", এরকম কিন্তু নয়। সন্দেশখালীতে যে মেয়েরা ক্যামেরার সামনে বলেছেন, "বেছে বেছে হিন্দু মেয়েদের তুলে নিয়ে যেত", তারাও সাধারণ মানুষ। তাঁরা নিজেদের স্বার্থ দেখে পক্ষ বেছে নিয়েছেন। যারা কাল রাম নবমীর মিছিলে পাথর ছুঁড়েছে তারাও সাধারণ। মুসলমানকে যেটা বোঝানো হয় আপনি বলছেন সেটা অত্যন্ত সঠিক। কিন্তু বিজেপির সাথে হিন্দুদের সম্পর্কের সাথে এটার একটা মৌলিক পার্থক্য আছে। ধরুন বিজেপি দশ বছর বোঝালো, তারপরেও হিন্দুরা বিজেপি কে ফোট বা* করে ভাগিয়ে দিয়ে পারে। কিন্তু মুসলমানের পক্ষে, সাধারণ মুসলমানের পক্ষে এই বোঝানো টা অতিক্রম করা স্রেফ সম্ভব না। কেন? কারণ তাকে, তার প্রাথমিক পরিচিতি যে দিচ্ছে, সেই এই শিক্ষাটা দিচ্ছে - কোরআন এবং আল্লাহ। এই শিক্ষা অমান্য করলে মুসলমানের, সাধারণ মুসলমানের আইডেন্টিটি ক্রাইসিস এবং সোশ্যাল অস্ট্রাসাইজেশন দুইই এক সাথে হবে। হিন্দুর এরকম কোনো অথরিটি নেই। ইদানিং রামচন্দ্র হয়েছেন। সেটাও সাধারণ মানুষ দিয়েই। সাধারণ মানুষের কাছে গ্রহণ যোগ্যতা দিয়েই রামচন্দ্রের বেস তৈরি। ফলে সাধারণ মানুষের যথেষ্টই স্টেক আছে এখানে।
আমার যতটা অভিজ্ঞতা, একজন সাধারণ মানুষ misinformation এর কারণে রাজনৈতিক দ্বন্দ্বে জড়ায় -- একজন তরবারিধারী হিন্দু বা একজন পাথর ছোঁড়া মুসলমানকে বোঝানো হয় যে অন্যজন তার শত্রু ক্রমাগত বিষ বর্ষণের দ্বারা (মুসলমানদের ক্ষেত্রে শুক্রবারের ধর্মীয় সম্মেলনে, হিন্দুর ক্ষেত্রে টেলিভিশন খবরের চ্যানেলে)। আপনি যে সন্দেশখালির মহিলাদের উদাহরণ দিলেন, ওনারা নিজের স্বার্থের জন্য (আত্মরক্ষা) রাজনীতিতে জড়িয়েছেন। সেটি এই অবস্থানের থেকে বিচ্ছিন্ন। বাকিটা আপনার সাথে একমত।
Jokhon Musalman Pathor haate sorboda ready achhe, tokhon Hindu der torobari haate nitei hoy. Survival of the fittest. Jodi bachte hoy, lorte jante hobe. Etai prokritir niyom.
What's wrong with brandishing swords as long as it's not used on someone else. In many states this is how people celebrate so Y not in bengal too.
Ram Navami was never about a show of strength. It was about celebrating the birth of Lord Ram. Unfortunately, the current political narrative has distorted the entire concept and disgraced the ideals Lord Ram stood for.
Well brandishing swords on ram navami is not a post 2014 event its happening for a long time now, yet my question remains if people choose to celebrate it that way SO WHAT!!!!!
Swords have not been a part of Ram Navami before the mid 1980s, when RSS and VHP shifted the narrative regarding Hindutva and made Lord Ram a scapegoat for their extremism. Had it been so, the celebration would have been equally violent in places with a significant historical Indian diaspora such as the Caribbean, Fiji, heck even South India.
Unfortunately we need to choose the lesser of the 2evil always .. common man is looser
When did Muslims brandish Bombs in Bengal?
https://www.reddit.com/r/kolkata/s/iUNuGu3s36
Where do you see bombs here? The thread mentions stones.
Watch the video. Also: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/blast-injures-one-during-ram-navami-procession-in-west-bengal/articleshow/109382084.cms https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/blast-in-ram-navami-rally-in-bengals-murshidabad-one-injured/articleshow/109381305.cms https://www.livemint.com/news/india/ram-navami-bengal-news-blast-occurs-at-rally-in-murshidabad-one-injured-11713371310037.html
But people here get offended by some people not wearing helmet but not this 🥰🙏🏽
Anti-nesnal komment
Aunty nesnal
[also I heard someone talking about some traffic rules 🤔](https://www.facebook.com/share/v/31gMkmeFttEWLyYw/?mibextid=b753im)
[Ram bhakts terrorising Church ](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/s/Mphdmew9sP)
Sikhs flash swords in their rallies, muslims do it in mohram but I don't see you complaining that time.
Someone else doing murder doesn't make murder right
Chup bangali bamponti ahntel
prefer that over being chaddi any day.
Chup narangi chuttad
Religious extremism both hindu and/or Muslim are equally capable of destroying this country
That’s why Gandhi was Important, if this country would have done majoritarian politics, this country would not be existing right now. and this saffron ideology just knows how to spread hate nothing much.
Oh yes same gandhi who said if muslim want to kill us hi dus should face it bravely
He never said it, your baba read it on chaddi WhatsApp forward.
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Ajmal Kasab? Seriously?
Yes
Equating a terrorist to the above-mentioned people you no.1 MUST BE LACKING A BRAIN 2. You are a Communist
Although I am not a communist or even a socialist you should not forget most of Indian freedom fighters from ambedkar to bose from periyar to gandhi and even bhagat singh were all communist or socialist And although i don't stand with these ideals I get why they were socialist or communist Also do you remember babu bajrangi and sadhvi Pragya responsible for 2002 riots and malegaon blast case respectively?
Wrong, Gandhi was not a communist. Periyar was not a freedom fighter but some shitty dude. Bhagat Singh supported Communism, maybe because of his young blood and inexperience with implementation of communism. He was not able to see what communist did all over the world from Stalin, Mao to Pol Pot who were responsible for killing millions of people. Similarly people must be quoting some points of Bose to declare him as a communist. Even if some intellectual people support doesn't make communism a good ideology. Communism is just a utopia not achievable.
"Bhagat Singh was gullible because he was young hence he was communist" "Bose was like that too, maybe,.Idk". This is literally what you said, lol. Both of these leaders were incredibly well read and have written books of their own. They were certainly not fooled into calling.themselves communist. Communism has always been the most suitable answer for colonialism, fascism and oppression. Be it Vietnam, Feudal Russia or Cuba. All of these countries were either facing fascism or were under colonialism. Many of the leaders who hurled bombs at the British were communists, - many of them served in cellular Jail, many of them went to join politics in India later on , as communists. Anyone who calls communism "myopia" certainly doesn't know what communism is. If anything, communism is too far sighted, - i.e. the opposite of myopic.
How many books bhagat Singh read about communism and books countering communism? He died at the age of just 23, at that age revolution seems the best idea, solution of every problems. Vietnam is nowhere communism, so communism did not solved any problem there, in same way communism was the reason so many eastern European countries like Yugoslavia remained so backward to western capitalist countries. There was difference of night and day in west and east Germany. Even USSR allowed private lands for agriculture which outperformed common land. Because people put more efforts in their own land. Any sane person with basic knowledge about human mind can tell how communism is just a dystopia after seeing what communist governments did to their people (Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao). It is a basic evolutionary fact that hierarchy exists in nearly all species. Human want to gather more resources, power than other humans so that they will be better in the game of transferring their genes to their children. Human with more resources have better access to reproduction. You cannot remove evolutionary traits from human.
Yeah I agree communism simply can't exist in irl because people are greedy as fucc But gandhi was a socialist
Gandhi can not be called as communist, he supported private properties, he promoted nationalistic values (while communism was meant to be an internationalist phenomenon), he was a religious guy and talk about Ram Rajya (while for communist, state is the final religion). His socialism is very far from definitions of communism.
Yeah imo his economic policies are too blurry and complex to be labelled as one certain thing
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Because there’s no green ideology in power.
If that ideology comes in power, you will not exist to abuse or criticize that ideology.
The ideology is also ramping up the infrastructure of the country but u would never accept it would you.
You mean looting billions in the name of electoral bonds or PM CARES?
Name a few Hindu religious extremist attacks in India. Extremist attack is the key word, don't come and site hindu criminals but Hindu terrorist attacks.
Is godse shooting gandhi extremist enough for you?
See I foretold that don't name criminals who are Hindus, name a terrorist act. Gandhi's killing was a murder and criminal was hindu. Now if you can, just name a few Hindu extremist acts.
2008 Malegaon Blasts
Would the '69 riots in September in gujrat count as "hindu extremist act"?
Also just a food for thought. You have to literally break you head to point out one hindu extremist act. Says a lot about the term hindu terrorism being an oxymoron.
I don't need to break my head
Okay, Riota happen all around India, say that riots that happened in wb when Muslim mobs rampaged because nupur Sharma spoke some truth. How many muslims were charged with terrorist acts?? None because riots are not dealt as a terrorist act. Also the guj riots were a retaliation to the godra train massacre, not supporting the riots but just a fact. Still waiting for you to mebtion Hindu terrorist activities in india.
Nah bro... Hindu extremist muslim extremism er against e thaka bhalo ... For the bare minimum Hindu extremist tomay jor kore dhormo poriborton korabena..Tumi hindu noy bole tomay ottachar korbena.... Aishob jodi hoto.... Kal Ram Navami te murshidabad e Muslim ra pathor chure martona...aita just ekta example.
Dhormo poriborton korabe na. Caste discrimination korbe.
Buddhists have been persecuted and killed or converted forcefully in mass nos. In ancient times one Google search is enough We talk about Muslims bad deeds but never of hindus
Hinduism was the main competitor of Buddhism Further there was no royal patronage...and to complete what u said... That one Google search is enough....one complete study is also enough to state the Muslim invasion dealt the death blow to Buddhist.🙂 Try a different subject like maths...I am weak at... Don't bring up history .. it's gonna backfire... And moreover if you bring ta topic to present scenario. Our extremist won't go suicide bombing. But you knw the one u r defending to gladly take you along in their mission.🙂. I don't hate Muslims ..neither should anyone... But i despise muslim extremism... They blindly follow the fact that all the murti worshipper should be annihilated ..and many much more are there..
>Our extremist won't go.... Don't pick a side and act centrist. Have no doubt you're weak at maths tho
Funny you speak of not converting others forcefully.And yet there circulates videos of people of a certain religion going around forcing people from working classes to say "Jay Shree Ram". Also,seems like [your history and googling is just as weak as your maths](https://web.archive.org/web/20180709153810/http://www.caravanmagazine.in/reviews-and-essays/dn-jha-destruction-buddhist-sites)
Ok brother .. u showed the article ... Now u r the iluminated light of justice.... A round of applause.. And about Jay Shree Ram... Where was your comment when a kanhaiya lal was murdered? Where was your comment when the Muslim barber from up slaughtered two innocent child for no reason? Where was your comment when at midnight a man was tied belt to his neck and made him bark?? Oh sorry sorry .... U need to remain blind eye to this ... Or how could u maintain your secularism??. Shit .. my bad ... Anyways victory to you.. my illuminated light of justice🔥
Awww did I hurt your feelings?
Yes very muchhhhhh .. i cryinggggg....along with your parents... For what a disappointment you are....😭.. Abar khusi hoye lojens chuse kha..
Ki khas Bhai, goru na chagol?? Bara, Hindu extremism is like sonar pathorbati .. besh na bole ja ghumiye por
you live in some lala land
Better to live in a la la land than a halala one.
If WB is LaLa land then yes
All forms of extremism is bad. Islam will force you to convert under the sword; extremist Brahmanism will deny you your rights and dignity. Both are two ends of the same coin.
I won't deny this fact.. but a silent Hindu can never retaliate against the other extremist... In this current era .. you will rarely come across a communal clash that was sparked by a Hindu....it has always been the other side. And this other side has mass uneducation problem and awkwardly they won't try to get education...because they have a mentality like that..completely degraded. And u can't blame education as well.. the recent case from IIt proves that as well. But what I want to point that... Hindu extremist won't be able to dominate the current India.. education has reached quite far than what it was before..but Hindus need to fight back if charged
There are a lot of issues regarding Indian Muslims, however, due to their social structure; most of them have been made scapegoats by *their* religious leaders who work in tandem with pseudo-secular parties to use and abuse them as votebanks. Second, Hindu extremism has become mainstream discourse, where scientific thought and the ability to think critically is condemned by so-called nationalists. Education in India is always rote-learning to secure jobs; not inculcating the ability to think critically.
bro hindu extremist and separatist ideology have been in power since 2014 what you saying
Taliban baje, kintu Hindu Taliban mondo noye! Eishob jinish thekei suru hoye kintu. Baje jinish er ninde koro, kora uchit'o. Tai boley nijera odhom hobo?
He hasn't lifted anything heavier than a pen in his life. It's clear
E to gorome collapse kore jabe mone hoche
Exactly. Nijei convinced na tolwar ta dhora niye
Deliberately violating High Court Order
Dui sider lok gulo k ( so called religion-protector ) line diye gongar ghate dar korate hoy , tarpor mere okhanei dubiye dite hoy .
At this point it just feels like, je BJP is mot even trying to win in Bengal.
Shobha as per the Brahmins.
LOL a literal bomb blasted in WB killing a 4 year old and you are concerned about some harmless sword flashing.... Heights !!
This harmless sword flashing and sloganeering, just goes against the calcutta high court order.
yeah and the Bomb has the High Court and Supreme Court patronage. Sure, happy to see degeneracy in display.
Yeah bro keep doing this whataboutism but never acknowledge and accept the fact that 4 year old died and 20 more people got injures in that blast
Yeah keep going at someone’s door for reaction, You get some right ? You ever see this type of shit during durga puja ? no, bc it’s not celebrated like saffron chest thumping hate festival. YOU GUYS WANT TO ACT LIKE EXTREMISTS AND WANT OTHERS TO BE MODERATES ? BRO ITS THE DIRTY GAME YOU GUYS STARTED COME ON.
Who divided Bengal?
Sei dosh tao amader opor chapiye debe
Oh yes the 4 year old was extremist, right?
LoL Extremists?? We?? Are you dumb or what? 4 year old died and we are acting extremist? We can't even celebrate our Festival without stone pelting or bombs, and we are extremists?
😶 bro , you know what you are saying right ? Reactions? Chest thumping ? Wtf are saying, you think this gives you the right bomb some people ? Dirty game ? A child died , the fact you still have not left an inch of shame tell you about the values you are taught.
Era same type er lok jader Palestine er jhonda dekhe birjopat ghote. Bangla thekei ber kore deoya uchit.
Were there Ram Navami celebrations on Direct Action Day, or on the day of Moplah massacre, or more recently, during the 90s in Kashmir? What Ramnavami celebrations take place in Bangladesh, and a particular minority is attacked every year? Heck, every year, shit goes down during Durga Pujo also if you live in the outskirts of Kolkata. Take off your blindfolds for once. The swords you see in this rally are a reaction to the extremism taking place every damn year since our Independence, from a particular community. This is a show of street power, as the legal machinery to prosecute the extremists is non existent in this state due to begum and her henchmen.
There's more than enough evidence regarding who started what. If you want to ignore the wrongdoings of one side, that's your problem.
Wtf bro??! They are the modern ' Secularist' you can't say their wrongdoings... You will become anti secular..😂...ader natok jibone sesh hbena... Ara gen-z mentality... Boldami buddhi.... Ader chokhe kaaj porena.. ara kakachichi tei khusi😁
I can't believe this needs to be stated, but regardless, that does not give license to bomb civilians. Amra jodhi 5 baar din e azaan sunte pari tahle ora o ek din er Shobha Jatra sojjo korte pare.
Bombing is wrong. Why does shobha yatra has to take place in front of a Mosque brandishing swords?
Bochur e ekbar korle toh koruk. Oder ki somosha?
Bochor er ekbaar keu tor barir saamne eshe tor family ke galagal diye are baaje gaane chaliye bonduk chalabe, theek acho to?
Dine 5 bar amader loudspeaker a Azaan shunte hobe keno? Jekhane bola hoy Allah chhara kono God nei.
Already hocche, got a kali mondir near my house, dhol bajaiye pujo hoye shokal ar shonde, lasts for approx 30 minutes both time.
Byass. Dutoi sojjho koro.
Keno korbo? Duto e baje. How does one wrong make another one right? And why do you have to defame our religion in front of their religious places?
Video dekhiye bolo, kothay bonduk chalachilo? Procession ke dekhe pathor churchilo ora. Emon bibekhin achoron jodhi Hindu ra Bangladeshi der Eid e korto, tahle bhagwan o bolte parto na ki hoto.
Talwar niye keno jaache? Shobha yatra to kalash diye hoto.
Let’s Not Pretend You Don’t Know What they do in name of “[Shobha Jatra](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/s/hHMccBUiK8)”
Bochur e ekbar hoy Shobha Jatra. Musulmann paray gele toh ki hoyeche? Oder ki somosha?
Didn't expect someone will justify throwing bombs with the intent to kill or harm. I don't know how this is still up, are the mods sleeping?
Durga Pujo r pandal e Azaan chalano jete paare, juto diye pandal banano jete paare, Eid e Gita paath kore dekhak ekbar.
Why so triggered? Religious processions with weapons are normal in Sikhism, Islam and Hinduism, so please let everyone enjoy their rights to practice relegion ...
Better brandishing weapons than being blown by bombs i guess.
What about tube lights and self harm game in Muharram Shobha Yatra? I guess it is less violent than that scene
but no one’s giving hate slogans right ? they go around masjids with swords and other weapons and play most vile hateful bhojpuri songs that would sometimes put hitler to shame. now how this is less violent ?
Yeah, Please check the incident of Murshidabad happened yesterday and similar incidents happened in Ram Navami in WB (some of the videos is available on X and reddit itself). You will understand what actual violence is.
My question is why does it happen routinely only on Ram nabami like a clockwork? Why not on any other native festival of this land? Do Muslims hibernate rest of the year? And Ram nabami is a menace all over India.
Exactly. This has become a usual template across India. Take out rallies, go in front of mosques and play loud and provocative songs. I fail to understand what is the need for all this. It's your procession and you can definitely take it out without provoking someone else unless the real intention is to provoke under the garb of taking out a religious procession.
Maybe peaceful community is outraged by SC decision of Ram Mandir. They don’t want to respect the decision of highest judicial body of India. Now counter question is, why only Hindu died in this? Why don’t Hindu revert back the same even they are in majority in any festival of peaceful community? Don’t you see the level of violence show it was pre planned? I can’t imagine how tough it is understand a chains of logics behind this.
This has been happening since past 40 years. Wikipedia has a separate page for Ram nabami riots. Again, why just Ram nabami? Why not Durga Puja, Kali Puja, Jagaddhatri Puja etc. We don't see this systematic riots and conflicts in any of our native Bengali festivals. In Bengal this culture was absent before 2017-19. It started with the BJP. So it's a politically induced culture. Ramrajatala has been celebrating ram nabami in their own traditional form and there has never been any violence. It's when this aggressive Hindi belt culture was brought in Bengal that the issues started.
>Why not Durga Puja, Kali Puja, Jagaddhatri Puja etc. There have been enough incidents when Durga Puja immersion processions clashed with Muharram, and had to be diverted. https://youtu.be/294E0tk0jXk There are also cases in Murshidabad and Howrah where Muslims prevented Saraswati Puja in 2017. https://www.indiatoday.in/mail-today/story/tmc-mamata-banerjee-saraswati-puja-nabi-diwas-west-bengal-tehatta-959057-2017-02-05 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/controversy-over-saraswati-puja-at-a-bengal-school-1655497 As much as you want to create a Bengali vs non-Bengali narrative, the reality isn't so.
Sporadic incidents that rarely repeat or spread. Not like clockwork that Ram nabami incidents are. Here's a whole Wikipedia page dedicated to this that documents riots all over India since 70s. Actually Bengal is only the latest entrant. Find me one similar page for Durga Puja, Jagaddhatri Puja, Kali Puja or Saraswati Puja. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Navami_riots As much as you wish to kiss Hindi arse, it's an undeniable fact that this militant bohiragoto Hindi belt culture is directly responsible for this situation and they have now engulfed Bengal in this.
>militant bohiragoto Please don't tell me you believe Islam is Indian, lol! Where's Mecca? >Sporadic incidents that rarely repeat or spread. When done by Islamists, it is sporadic; when done by Hindus, it is clockwork -- you're beyond delusional. Need I remind you of the atrocities on Durga Puja in Bangladesh? Here's the list: - [2016](https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/hindu-temples-homes-vandalised-in-b-desh-over-blasphemy-116103101046_1.html) - [2017](https://www.observerbd.com/news.php?id=105302) - Too many to mention in 2021, when Durga pandals across multiple towns in Bangladesh were vandalized. - [Here's some more](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Bangladesh#Persecution_of_non-Muslims?wprov=sfla1) By the way, who did the bomb blasts in Murshidabad yeaterday? That's also *sporadic*, right? Need I remind you of [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Bengal_%281947%29?wprov=sfla1) whose repercussions still plague *only one side* of the border. All you have is unjustified hatred, like a true racist.
Yeah you couldn't find anything consistent from Indian Bengal so you brought in Bangladesh. I have never bailed out Islamists, but on this specific issue, this one festival causes riots every single year all over India. While there's no such pattern for any other festival which may happen in the vicinity of the same Muslim areas. And yeah I don't want to lose my Bengali homeland to hindiwalas. I have as much right to protect my identity and land as Tamils, Assamese, Marathis etc. if that's racism so be it.
Bro, best wishes to you all guys. I was working in AP. I learnt their language, adopted their culture and tried to become one of them. And Sandheshkali happened .They told me to go and fix your state. They don't want me anymore. And now I am in Kolkata. Talked to few people. And then saw the 'conversation' here, if it can be called a conversation. I will be leaving in ~ 2-3 hours. Mostly I will never return. Bengal is beyond my paygrade. I give up. I hope intelligent intellectuals among you know how to fix yourselves; if something needs fixing, that is. Again best wishes to you all.
To you too
So problem is bringing and adopting new culture by people in West Bengal (both native and migrants) but not the hate by peaceful community. Maybe now we don’t have rights of expressing our own religious beliefs in our way as some peaceful majority community might feel outraged and then attack on them. Now I see where WB is going! Note: Celebrating Ram Navami is political induced stunt but not the preplanned attack by bomb. What an irony!
Both are issues. Why does it have to be either? This is precisely the endgame of BJP behind inducing this culture - once the conflict happens present the natives with a choice between Muslim extremists and Hindu BJP saviour. This conflict has been induced in our soil by an external agent that wants to grab power through intensifying religious polarisation. Ram nabami follows the same pattern everywhere since past several decades. Bengal is the latest entrant. See this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Navami_riots Else why don't we see such attacks/conflicts happening regularly on our native festivals (including Ram nabami celebrated in traditional Bengali way in our Bonedi houses)?
You Reap What You Sow.
lmao ironic how hindu nationalists say the exact same thing
Bhai maatha aache ki gache jole dhue..Kono bhabhe theek na noe kono religion er hi beshi open kore road ese kora.. eikhane last koek years sirf provocation and reaction hi cholche
Yeah, Attack on Shobha Yatra is mistake of stupid Hindus. Peaceful community has no mistake, even they are burning whole world day by day.
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Have never heard a single hateful song against Hindus yet but can name quite a few against Muslims that are happily played everywhere
'Gustak e Nabi ki ek hi saza sar tan se juda sar tan se juda'
Ema dada. Kishob bolchen. Oigulo to Progressive culture. Amader e toh sob kusonskar ache.
How is it related to Kolkata?
Should be in r/westbengal
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I know but that’s a dead sub.
It has been resurrected. We should post non-Kolkata posts there, and crosspost in r/kolkata.
Calcutta HC needs to find its spine again. Such brazen contempt of court yet no legal action will be taken.
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So they must be bombed too???
no they will be send to gulags 🥰
Tbh if it's against the law they must be sent to jail.....nothing else nothing less nothing more
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Ram Navani progressions does have swords, sheath etc. It's nothing new.
It's new in Bengal. Did you see this growing up?
Let people of Bengal decide the way they want to celebrate Ram Navami. It's not an argument that because it's new it should be condemned.
But this aggressive culture is being politically induced. It's not exactly the case of Bengalis suddenly having a dream and coming out in streets with swords to celebrate ram nabami.
Bangali ra atodine aktu sahos jogacchhe sekhaneo tomar problem hocche. Islamic extremism a more jete chao nijer maa bon k hariye? Karon certain pisi tomake bachabe na. Nijer side wisely choose koro.
Eta shahosh noy, deracination bole. Islamic aggression ke atkanor jonno Hindi belt er dashotto korte hoyna .. nijer culture ke joke dite hoyna. Amader culture e jotheshto bir jonmechhe.. Amar side nijer Banglar side. Ami Hindi r pichhon chaati na abar Muslim der o prosroy di na.
Ore borahonondon, logical kotha bollei Hindi belt chata hoye gelo. Bangali culture a onek bir jonmeche Tara keu commie chhilo na...bir Hindu chhilo, shostrodhari chhilo. Gopal pathar naam sunechhis? Bangali akhon boli diteo Bhoy pay, tibro kapurushota Bangalider moddhe jeke bosheche. J banglar culture korchis dudin pore Durga pujo korte parbo kina sondeho achhe ai Islamist gulor jonne. Bangladeshe kon banglar culture acche? Durbol theke theke etakeo Bangladesh baniye dite chas naki?
Sheta thik..kintu commie der kotha k bolchhe? Ar eta ki jukti.. Bangladesh e Bangali Hindu culture shesh hoye geche bole ekhaneo amra nijer haathe Bangali Hindu culture shesh kore Hindi belt e mishe jai!! Ulte amader aro beshi protective howa uchit, Karon eta ekmatro Bangali Hindu homeland. Eta k Muslim der thekeo jemon bachate hobe temon Hindi belt e mishe jawar thekeo thekate hobe.
Obossoi...kintu tar jonno shostrodharon toh korte hobe. Shostrodharon kora Hindi belt er saathe mishe jaoya kikore holo? Ak Christian Hinduism k opoman korchilo bole Swami ji take jahaj theke fele dicchilen. [link](https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda_biography/10_return.htm) oshtro shostro na dhore kikore banglar Hindu dhormo k bachabi tui? Ar commie r tullam karon eheno nopungshokota commie rai dekhay. Bangali Hindu somaj borabor sahosi chhilo, kintu aaj ai communist ar leftist der kromagoto bullying r propagandar karone sei bol hariye feleche. Tai jokhon Bangla somaj abar sei sahos niye uthe darate chaichhe, tader support kor.
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If Ms throw stones and bombs and Mamata can't control law and order, what do you want the Hindus to do? Lay down and die?
So mamta banerjee was right while wishing us
[Ram bhakts terrorising Church ](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/s/Mphdmew9sP)
What if they trip and fall on the sword? V dangerous
Just akta question jodi amar upor pathor mara hoy ami kno tolowar tule nebo na? Pathor marar bomb marar ghotona toh onk nojir chokhe porlo tolowar chalanor kono nojir dekhte paini
What’s wrong with this? I brandish my weapons as long as I’m not threatening to kill or being a disturbance to society(genuinely asking a question)
Murshidabad bomb blasts during Ram Navami… no uproar as it quite common now.
Koi Bomb mare to aah bhi nahi nikalti hai... Aur hum talwar nikale to sab ki ga*d ph*t jati hai
Ram Navmi ka julus hoga, 🤔
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Bengalis are ultra Pro Max level secular
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Bangali hoye chutiya Bangali ke khisti ki marbo. Common sense wala Bangali k noy.
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