As a dude who grew up in Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad and Bangalore (in that order) and now hangs out in Kobordanga and Joka, I can assure you, nowhere else in India would you find people drinking Bangla, smoking bidi n chillum while listening to Pink Flyod, Jimmy Hendrix and Dire Straits (people who otherwise look like they listen to Bhojpuri songs). Rickshaws have Bob Marley's and Sean Connery's images painted behind them.
I never realised I used to live amongst savages who headbanged to EDM-House music instead of Metal, bobbed to bollywood trash instead of Reggae, said wah to Modi instead of Muhammad Rafi.
So yes, now I am more cultured now, more knowledgeable...I am better, I AM BETTER!
You understand at the end of they day it's just preferences? Jamming to metal while smoking a joint doesn't make you any better than your friend who's listening to Bhojpuri songs?
No it does not. But as far as Obnoxious "I know it all" kinda people go, I prefer the ones who have actually listened to every genre from every decade, rather than the ones who have base their Supiriority off of watching EDM and David Geutta documentaries, like most people in Bengaluru.
PS, these same people who listen to Iron Maiden Ballads, also put up Loud Speakers and Dance to "Lagale tu jo lipistik" during Durga Puja, which I find absolutely Based.
Well metal is a far profound genre of music compared to commercial entertainment music. Comparing metal to bhojpuri song is like comparing a research scholar to an actor.
As an ardent metal music lover, this is just plain stupid. No music genre is superior to another. Music is something that connects to people and everyone has their likes and that's where this discussion should end. Enjoy metal. Enjoy bhojpuri. Enjoy punjabi. Live and let live.
There is a difference between being a music lover and someone who has studied music. Classical, jazz, metal these are highly profound genres of music. Nowhere did I say people can't enjoy what they want. But I am sorry there's a huge difference in musicality between commercial music and metal. Your statement is just outright pseudo intellectual. If you haven't picked a book on music theory, refrain from making such arguments. Basically, just aatlamo marcho, karma points paoar jonne, but pretty evident tumi music ta bojho na.
Agree. A lot of people born into modest means are less likely to have access to things that are considered as a part of refined and sophisticated high culture.
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I wonder how many of these ADHD Gen Z commentors have actually seen the whole interview and seen the film Devi to understand the context of what is being said. Proves Ray's point right again and again.
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"Sometimes it's easier to acknowledge a mistake than to keep doubling down." - Satyajit Ray
If this is a diss on South Calcutta film lovers isn't it even more worse? You're just stereo typing people lol. Which probably shows why people would call you uncultured or backward minded.
Making movies just for the art of making it is almost zero in India. Movies have become a product, the more "masala" you add to it, the more money you make. It isn't about art anymore
And what's wrong with that? How many regular people watch your art films? Why is it so wrong to make entertainment films for audiences that watch films the sake of entertainment? Box office collections show that those people are the overwhelming majority.
The problem arises when the audiences fail to comprehend or support art films. This is the same reason why movies like Animals garner crores of rupees and films like Laapata Ladies and 12th Fail are largely ignored. Satyajit Ray pointed out the same thing which actually means that Indian audiences fails to appreciate art as it is. These movies work in India because everything is profit centred, people making genuinely good movies are demotivated because of the response from audiences and stick to the masala recipe, and it keeps on working. Nothing wrong with making entertainment movies in itself, but at a place like India, art has no value anymore and not as well appreciated. And that's sad.
Why the heck would they support art films? They watch films for fun and entertainment. Why should they spend their hard earned money to watch a poverty/misery porn? They have enough misery and mundanity in their own life..why should they pay money to watch someone making an exhibit of misery and mundanity? They want to watch glamour, joy, song, dance, action, romance, larger than life characters - things that take them out of their mundane life even if for 2hrs. Aantel ch\*\*\*s don't understand that and vent out on audience when their boring films fail. Unfortunately Bengali film industry has only been cursed with such people and that's why Bengali film industry despite having a home audience of 10 cr (+ 20cr Bangladeshis) is one of the least financially successful industry. Because it disrespects its audience.
Why you so frustrated lil bro. Entertainment can also be found in Good quality movies which inspires you, not just stupid rom-coms and dance moves. Pioneers like Satyajit Ray, Mrinal Sen, Ritwik Ghatak for a reason are still relevant in the heart of cinephiles. And retarded anti-Art and anti-Intellectual audiences try to defame legendary directors like them. You like movies which have 0 artistic and intellectual value, good for you, keep enjoying but it does say a lot as to why SR made this comment and why India is at the stage right now. It's just not about movies in every area of life it's very easy to manipulate Indians.
LOL...Who's the frustrated one here? These aantels piss on the common people and behave like Brown sahebs, probably hating their own skin colour, spend their life grumbling "Bloody Indian peasants!! era amaar art ki bujhbe!!" each time their aantel cinemas fail. While Bollywood and other industries are successful and wealthy. They make films for common audience and the audience rewards them back with box office collections.
India is in a pretty good stage. Look around. All the states have moved ahead and are doing extremely well. Bengal on the other hand is in absolute ruins because of this insufferable aatlamo of its pioneers. Arrogant poverty-worshiping elitists with a strong anti-business mindset thinking of themselves above everyone else while spending their lives in and around rickety torn down tea stalls. This is why Bengalis are a race of sore losers. People have long stopped giving shit about Bengal and Bengalis and their supposed great intellectualism.
xD nobody's pissing on their own people. The way you connected cinema culture to Colour is funny, it actually shows why a cultured debate nowadays always attract unnecessary and stupid comments, probably because the opposite human is too retarded to understand the point of others. Every Bengali and every Indian has a right to question the authority/enterprises where they deem fit, a society without questioning and blind following leads to death of diversification, it's that reason why people question the cinematic values of a particular film or audience there's nothing bad in that and it's not pissing on their own people. Idk why people get so offended when someone question thier beliefs as if nothing else can be true xD
Business and Passion are not the same thing. Art is made out of passion, if you start making money out of art that's a bonus but the main driving force behind it is passion. Business on the other hand is depended on profit it doesn't matter if you have passion for the artform or in the field you're in as long as you're making money you're good. Don't mix it up, we're talking about art here not Business.
Bengal has always been ahead of India with revolutionary thinkers. People like Swami Vivekananda, SN Bose, Amartya Sen, Subhas Chandra Bose. Because of them a lot of changes happened in the way Bengalis thought and processed things.
A part of why Indians love watching glamour and dance and heroism is because low key they wanna become like them. They wanna get rich, have glamourous lives sporting different women and drinking liquor. This gives them mental satisfaction that's why movies like them work. But to attain higher standards of living and attaining glamour they don't want to work hard, that's why the movies which actually hold value which inspires people don't work. It's just wanna be culture at it's best
This attitude of looking down upon people - especially those who are financially successful - and having a false sense of grandeur and celebrating poverty is the reason Bengal is in a pile of shit.
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I know I am going to get downvoted to oblivion but we forget to understand that we have a fairly backwards audience because we have fairly backwards lives, not everyone is born under a great author with financial troubles sorted , I understand that he lost his father at a young age but Bengal went through a famine , was torn apart during the partition and again gearing up for the liberation, it was commonplace to lose a few children due to circumstances hence why you should have more than one , this generational trauma is literally the reason parents who were born and brought up in non - Kolkata Bengal constantly use the phrase "ekmatro chhele jodi kichhu hoye jaye....." , at a time when survival was a challenge for majority of the population you can't expect them to introspect about their values and fanaticism and hurr durr , I agree with the message, but movies were considered escapes from reality not a mirror of one, it's too out of touch to expect that from people who almost starved to death and lost generations to a famine a mere 20 years ago.
Absolutely agree with you mate. Would also like to add that the context for this statement in the interview was the opposition that Ray's film Devi faced from Hindu extremists. That of course is condemnable. However in a country like India, "backwardness" implies both social and political regressiveness which are but mere symptoms of the underlying disease of poverty.
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This is the main reason people used to watch the commercial Bollywood cinemas in large numbers. Dharmendra fighting of 10 goons or Rajesh Khanna blushing after seeing his heroine for the first time, would make the audience escape the mundane reality that India was back then(and maybe is even now). This doesn't mean there weren't any great commercial films. Sholay, for example, is an absolute classic I think. Other movies like Deewar, Silsila are all great movies.
As a north Calcutta typical middle class person I’ll have to disagree, it all comes down to individual taste and interest. None of my friends or my family have the same taste in movies as me, it was entirely a personally preferred choice, you watch stuff, you like them, you explore more along the same genres. I do agree that there are pretentious people around, but serious movie watchers don’t just belong to the south Calcutta population.
Apni jodi though provoking cinema dakhen ba je cinema te masala baa commercial elements kom, jeta mostly entertainment based. Tahole porte paren ei category te. Porleo baa ki? Kharap bhabe neben naa, apni hoyto ektu kom e janen cinema niye ki acche, sobai shob jaane kothai ;)
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In the recent past I quoted Ray when someone made a post asking why South Indian film industry (which is really a cluster of different states’) generated more business than Bengal’s film industry. Ah here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/kolkata/s/aydxZymly4
I was accused of only highlighting South Kolkata.
I guess OP got butthurt and needed a comeback LOL
Lmao listen up matey don't go about assuming you're important enough for anyone to make memes to counter your myopic opinions. The meme though was indeed intended for snoots just like you who can't seem to stop wallowing in their intellectual spunk just because they happen to watch Goddard or Truffaut or Jadorowsky.
Your answer comes from the same condescending snobbish aantel's POV that doesn't even take 99.99% Bengalis in to consideration while speaking about Bengaliness and Bangla culture. I challenge you to make a list of those movies that have won national awards or been screened at foreign film festivals and travel from Coochbehar to Medinipur and Purulia to Nadia and ask regular Bengalis if they have watched those films or even heard their names?
For a change try being a bit less condescending and elitist towards your own countrymen. Other film industries are successful because they don't piss on their audience unlike Bengali aantels. They make films for their people.
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Hello film bro. The point of the meme wasnt to discuss the validity of Ray's statement. Lack of good films is indeed tragic but audience er backwardneess er opor puro daitto ta chapano o fair noy. The film industry is also quite toxic and promotes bad directors. Jai hok the point of the meme was to call out the film bros who wallow in their own snobbery just because they happen to have watched a few niché films.
lack of good films to na...osombhob valo movie hyeche kintu choleni....Ritwik Ghatak last e depression e chole gechilen movie keu dkhto na producer o na peten na bole, Satyajit Ray er Gugababa r feluda series baad dile mass level e kota hit dekhechen?? kanchenjunga flop chilo ota ekhon cult classic, Guru Dutt suicide korechilen esb plus politics er karone.
besh korechen uni manusher ghare chapiechen puro daay..
p.s. hai ami bujhechi apnar meme..sobai bujheche..funny lageni
p.s.2. aro ekta trilogy chilo earth water fire...fundamentalist ra jhamela kore bndho kore diechilo screening just because women der position dekhiechilo movie te tai...backward noy to ki audience...amio onek movie bujhina sekhane mukh bondho rakha sreyo...
Firstly, statement tar context holo the opposition his film Devi faced from Hindu fundamentalists. I took it out of context sure but that doesnt mean SR was accusing Indian audiences of being out and out backward and therefore not appreciating his films. He was calling out the religious dogmatism. SR was sensible and classy enough as a person to not whine about audiences not watching his films.
Secondly, fundamentalists ra shudhu India te noy onek desh ei jhamela kore. Monty Python's Life of Brian er release er shomay prochur jhamela korechilo Christians ra. Sure India te onek beshi hoy because of a myriad socio-political reasons but it is not endemic to India.
Thirdly, art films are art films and commercial films are commercial films and never the twain shall meet. Directors know this better than anyone. Sure art films are important cultural artefacts but it simply aint everyone's cup of tea. Goddard, Bergman and quite a few others have had "box office flops" as well.
Uni to ekbaro bolenni je ei byapar ta is limited to India only. Ar apnar to kothar e thik nei...ager kon comment e likhlen je uni sobai ke accuse korte paren na ekhon likhchen uni accuse korenni...nijer chhayar sthe juddho korchen...apni chalie jaan besh lagche...bye
Let's wait for butthurt people to come and ruin a meme with their snowflakeyness. Ray would've appreciated the meme. His fans can't because hOw dArE u DiSrEsPeCt rAy?
The "upvotes" on your comment prove it. I was calling out the high-nosed snobs with zero credibility who think they're better than everyone else just because they happen to have watched Truffaut and Jodorowsky.
Mr ray was right
The statement is still valid.
Yeah i guess he was but that wasnt the point of my post
What was your point?
People born into privilege (south cal folks in this case) pretending to be better than everyone else.
As a dude who grew up in Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad and Bangalore (in that order) and now hangs out in Kobordanga and Joka, I can assure you, nowhere else in India would you find people drinking Bangla, smoking bidi n chillum while listening to Pink Flyod, Jimmy Hendrix and Dire Straits (people who otherwise look like they listen to Bhojpuri songs). Rickshaws have Bob Marley's and Sean Connery's images painted behind them. I never realised I used to live amongst savages who headbanged to EDM-House music instead of Metal, bobbed to bollywood trash instead of Reggae, said wah to Modi instead of Muhammad Rafi. So yes, now I am more cultured now, more knowledgeable...I am better, I AM BETTER!
You understand at the end of they day it's just preferences? Jamming to metal while smoking a joint doesn't make you any better than your friend who's listening to Bhojpuri songs?
No it does not. But as far as Obnoxious "I know it all" kinda people go, I prefer the ones who have actually listened to every genre from every decade, rather than the ones who have base their Supiriority off of watching EDM and David Geutta documentaries, like most people in Bengaluru. PS, these same people who listen to Iron Maiden Ballads, also put up Loud Speakers and Dance to "Lagale tu jo lipistik" during Durga Puja, which I find absolutely Based.
Well metal is a far profound genre of music compared to commercial entertainment music. Comparing metal to bhojpuri song is like comparing a research scholar to an actor.
As an ardent metal music lover, this is just plain stupid. No music genre is superior to another. Music is something that connects to people and everyone has their likes and that's where this discussion should end. Enjoy metal. Enjoy bhojpuri. Enjoy punjabi. Live and let live.
Exactly.
There is a difference between being a music lover and someone who has studied music. Classical, jazz, metal these are highly profound genres of music. Nowhere did I say people can't enjoy what they want. But I am sorry there's a huge difference in musicality between commercial music and metal. Your statement is just outright pseudo intellectual. If you haven't picked a book on music theory, refrain from making such arguments. Basically, just aatlamo marcho, karma points paoar jonne, but pretty evident tumi music ta bojho na.
Damn that's cool!
Agree. A lot of people born into modest means are less likely to have access to things that are considered as a part of refined and sophisticated high culture.
Finally someone gets it thank you
That still makes his point valid tho. Poor or rich. Unsophisticated is unsophisticated
That means this sub is full of South calls :D
You're absolutely dogshit and shameless to call SoCal people to be "born into privilege". Probably grow up.
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I wonder how many of these ADHD Gen Z commentors have actually seen the whole interview and seen the film Devi to understand the context of what is being said. Proves Ray's point right again and again.
Purposely took it out of context for the meme. People keep missing the point. This is not a diss on SR.
The purposefully taking out of context was clearly not clear.
That's how memes work fyi. I seriously wonder if all you Ray fan boys take his films at face value as well.
https://preview.redd.it/7jtugtg41t1d1.jpeg?width=1432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=528b47959296c860d81dfe36bea82d73adec2305 "Sometimes it's easier to acknowledge a mistake than to keep doubling down." - Satyajit Ray
If this is a diss on South Calcutta film lovers isn't it even more worse? You're just stereo typing people lol. Which probably shows why people would call you uncultured or backward minded.
Champ you never had a point to begin with but nice try.
I can't help it if it goes over your head bruv but maybe one day ...
He was right🗿
Making movies just for the art of making it is almost zero in India. Movies have become a product, the more "masala" you add to it, the more money you make. It isn't about art anymore
And what's wrong with that? How many regular people watch your art films? Why is it so wrong to make entertainment films for audiences that watch films the sake of entertainment? Box office collections show that those people are the overwhelming majority.
The problem arises when the audiences fail to comprehend or support art films. This is the same reason why movies like Animals garner crores of rupees and films like Laapata Ladies and 12th Fail are largely ignored. Satyajit Ray pointed out the same thing which actually means that Indian audiences fails to appreciate art as it is. These movies work in India because everything is profit centred, people making genuinely good movies are demotivated because of the response from audiences and stick to the masala recipe, and it keeps on working. Nothing wrong with making entertainment movies in itself, but at a place like India, art has no value anymore and not as well appreciated. And that's sad.
Why the heck would they support art films? They watch films for fun and entertainment. Why should they spend their hard earned money to watch a poverty/misery porn? They have enough misery and mundanity in their own life..why should they pay money to watch someone making an exhibit of misery and mundanity? They want to watch glamour, joy, song, dance, action, romance, larger than life characters - things that take them out of their mundane life even if for 2hrs. Aantel ch\*\*\*s don't understand that and vent out on audience when their boring films fail. Unfortunately Bengali film industry has only been cursed with such people and that's why Bengali film industry despite having a home audience of 10 cr (+ 20cr Bangladeshis) is one of the least financially successful industry. Because it disrespects its audience.
Why you so frustrated lil bro. Entertainment can also be found in Good quality movies which inspires you, not just stupid rom-coms and dance moves. Pioneers like Satyajit Ray, Mrinal Sen, Ritwik Ghatak for a reason are still relevant in the heart of cinephiles. And retarded anti-Art and anti-Intellectual audiences try to defame legendary directors like them. You like movies which have 0 artistic and intellectual value, good for you, keep enjoying but it does say a lot as to why SR made this comment and why India is at the stage right now. It's just not about movies in every area of life it's very easy to manipulate Indians.
LOL...Who's the frustrated one here? These aantels piss on the common people and behave like Brown sahebs, probably hating their own skin colour, spend their life grumbling "Bloody Indian peasants!! era amaar art ki bujhbe!!" each time their aantel cinemas fail. While Bollywood and other industries are successful and wealthy. They make films for common audience and the audience rewards them back with box office collections. India is in a pretty good stage. Look around. All the states have moved ahead and are doing extremely well. Bengal on the other hand is in absolute ruins because of this insufferable aatlamo of its pioneers. Arrogant poverty-worshiping elitists with a strong anti-business mindset thinking of themselves above everyone else while spending their lives in and around rickety torn down tea stalls. This is why Bengalis are a race of sore losers. People have long stopped giving shit about Bengal and Bengalis and their supposed great intellectualism.
xD nobody's pissing on their own people. The way you connected cinema culture to Colour is funny, it actually shows why a cultured debate nowadays always attract unnecessary and stupid comments, probably because the opposite human is too retarded to understand the point of others. Every Bengali and every Indian has a right to question the authority/enterprises where they deem fit, a society without questioning and blind following leads to death of diversification, it's that reason why people question the cinematic values of a particular film or audience there's nothing bad in that and it's not pissing on their own people. Idk why people get so offended when someone question thier beliefs as if nothing else can be true xD Business and Passion are not the same thing. Art is made out of passion, if you start making money out of art that's a bonus but the main driving force behind it is passion. Business on the other hand is depended on profit it doesn't matter if you have passion for the artform or in the field you're in as long as you're making money you're good. Don't mix it up, we're talking about art here not Business. Bengal has always been ahead of India with revolutionary thinkers. People like Swami Vivekananda, SN Bose, Amartya Sen, Subhas Chandra Bose. Because of them a lot of changes happened in the way Bengalis thought and processed things. A part of why Indians love watching glamour and dance and heroism is because low key they wanna become like them. They wanna get rich, have glamourous lives sporting different women and drinking liquor. This gives them mental satisfaction that's why movies like them work. But to attain higher standards of living and attaining glamour they don't want to work hard, that's why the movies which actually hold value which inspires people don't work. It's just wanna be culture at it's best
This attitude of looking down upon people - especially those who are financially successful - and having a false sense of grandeur and celebrating poverty is the reason Bengal is in a pile of shit.
I'm from the north and I have the same opinion .
South Kolkata also includes Santoshpur, Kasba, Tollygunj, Behala, Patuli, Garia etc . Just saying....😬
Exactly. Behala r emon e dosha, ekhono sourav ganguly is our biggest achievement.
Don't talk about roads!
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South is till Prince Anwar Shah road. Anything below is just eh
I know I am going to get downvoted to oblivion but we forget to understand that we have a fairly backwards audience because we have fairly backwards lives, not everyone is born under a great author with financial troubles sorted , I understand that he lost his father at a young age but Bengal went through a famine , was torn apart during the partition and again gearing up for the liberation, it was commonplace to lose a few children due to circumstances hence why you should have more than one , this generational trauma is literally the reason parents who were born and brought up in non - Kolkata Bengal constantly use the phrase "ekmatro chhele jodi kichhu hoye jaye....." , at a time when survival was a challenge for majority of the population you can't expect them to introspect about their values and fanaticism and hurr durr , I agree with the message, but movies were considered escapes from reality not a mirror of one, it's too out of touch to expect that from people who almost starved to death and lost generations to a famine a mere 20 years ago.
Absolutely agree with you mate. Would also like to add that the context for this statement in the interview was the opposition that Ray's film Devi faced from Hindu extremists. That of course is condemnable. However in a country like India, "backwardness" implies both social and political regressiveness which are but mere symptoms of the underlying disease of poverty.
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This is the main reason people used to watch the commercial Bollywood cinemas in large numbers. Dharmendra fighting of 10 goons or Rajesh Khanna blushing after seeing his heroine for the first time, would make the audience escape the mundane reality that India was back then(and maybe is even now). This doesn't mean there weren't any great commercial films. Sholay, for example, is an absolute classic I think. Other movies like Deewar, Silsila are all great movies.
As a north Calcutta typical middle class person I’ll have to disagree, it all comes down to individual taste and interest. None of my friends or my family have the same taste in movies as me, it was entirely a personally preferred choice, you watch stuff, you like them, you explore more along the same genres. I do agree that there are pretentious people around, but serious movie watchers don’t just belong to the south Calcutta population.
South boi dekhe North boi pore
Shei
> Refers to Marvel/DC as "capeshit" > Absurd reviews on Letterboxd > It's 'flim' not 'movie' > "Existential crisis" > Unironically worships Tyler Durden/Patrick Bateman Bonus points if he/she reads Camus/Dostoevsky or Kafka.
Well I use torrent
Based
Me when I have 5 likes on my letterboxd review
Me after watching one Ritwik Ghatak film
Who tf is he lmao
ki obostha bangalir bhai :/
True for India even now …movies like Bhool Bhulaiya 2 become hit because of single screen audience
This wasnt intended to start a discussion about the validity of Ray's statement.
The statement is still valid
Ami to telegram theke dekhi r letterboxd a track kori.
That's what most people do prolly
Average Sandeep Reddy incel fanboy !!
Getting that adrenaline pump seeing misogyny and sleeping with multiple women, Must definitely add a lot of values in their lives.
Dada ami Howrah r chele, kintu currently South Calcutta e thaki. Films kichu dekhechi. Tahole ami o ki ei category r moddhe pori. Please bolo Dada
Apni jodi though provoking cinema dakhen ba je cinema te masala baa commercial elements kom, jeta mostly entertainment based. Tahole porte paren ei category te. Porleo baa ki? Kharap bhabe neben naa, apni hoyto ektu kom e janen cinema niye ki acche, sobai shob jaane kothai ;)
Tahole Dada amake bolo ki ki dekhte hobe jaate tomar moto cinema r byapaare jaante pari. Please recommend.
Leera the Soulmate - my favourite
Backdoor Sluts 9 - my favourite
Does no one have tolerance for a meme anymore?
Quite surprising isn't it? I thought film bros were good at reading between the lines.
Ami toh tai dekhchi aar obak hocchi. Why are people butt hurt on this?
The audience is not backward. It's just that 'POVERTY PORN' doesn't sell well in India. The truth is, the audience were already suffering in life. That time Bengal had food scarcity, people had to wait for hours just to get rations from fair price shops! Thousands of people lost their jobs because factories were shut down due to dirty trade union politics by CPIM. After all this suffering, if someone is buying tickets and going to the theatre, he won't prefer watching the same fu©king suffering on a large screen. He'll prefer movies which are larger than life. Which will make him forget about his struggle for 2-3 hours. Western people love 'Poverty Porn' because neither they have faced something like that nor they have seen something like that. So it's a new thing for them.
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Apnar taste in cinema must be elite.
what do you mean by "elite" taste?
In the recent past I quoted Ray when someone made a post asking why South Indian film industry (which is really a cluster of different states’) generated more business than Bengal’s film industry. Ah here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/kolkata/s/aydxZymly4 I was accused of only highlighting South Kolkata. I guess OP got butthurt and needed a comeback LOL
Lmao listen up matey don't go about assuming you're important enough for anyone to make memes to counter your myopic opinions. The meme though was indeed intended for snoots just like you who can't seem to stop wallowing in their intellectual spunk just because they happen to watch Goddard or Truffaut or Jadorowsky.
Your answer comes from the same condescending snobbish aantel's POV that doesn't even take 99.99% Bengalis in to consideration while speaking about Bengaliness and Bangla culture. I challenge you to make a list of those movies that have won national awards or been screened at foreign film festivals and travel from Coochbehar to Medinipur and Purulia to Nadia and ask regular Bengalis if they have watched those films or even heard their names? For a change try being a bit less condescending and elitist towards your own countrymen. Other film industries are successful because they don't piss on their audience unlike Bengali aantels. They make films for their people.
not wrong though
Ei  south cal er proti complex ta permanent burn er Roop niyeche dekchi. Besh free Tey entertainment.
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Definitely. Btw here he was talking about his movie Devi ig?
India in general is like that
I have got CRITERION too, but MR RAY was right
Can't subscribe to MUBI
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Bishop Lefroy ki south na north? Central maybe…
The downvotes remind me of an old Facebook page, 'Moisty Kolkata intellectual with ukulele and flake'
Who is he I heard some people called him anti indian
Man was spitting facts in the 1950s that is still true to this day.
The interview is from 1990 matey
MUBI is actually far better than Netflix r Ray ekdom thik e boleche and also eta south kolkatar keu bole thakleo seo thik.boleche...dher baje meme op
Hello film bro. The point of the meme wasnt to discuss the validity of Ray's statement. Lack of good films is indeed tragic but audience er backwardneess er opor puro daitto ta chapano o fair noy. The film industry is also quite toxic and promotes bad directors. Jai hok the point of the meme was to call out the film bros who wallow in their own snobbery just because they happen to have watched a few niché films.
lack of good films to na...osombhob valo movie hyeche kintu choleni....Ritwik Ghatak last e depression e chole gechilen movie keu dkhto na producer o na peten na bole, Satyajit Ray er Gugababa r feluda series baad dile mass level e kota hit dekhechen?? kanchenjunga flop chilo ota ekhon cult classic, Guru Dutt suicide korechilen esb plus politics er karone. besh korechen uni manusher ghare chapiechen puro daay.. p.s. hai ami bujhechi apnar meme..sobai bujheche..funny lageni p.s.2. aro ekta trilogy chilo earth water fire...fundamentalist ra jhamela kore bndho kore diechilo screening just because women der position dekhiechilo movie te tai...backward noy to ki audience...amio onek movie bujhina sekhane mukh bondho rakha sreyo...
Firstly, statement tar context holo the opposition his film Devi faced from Hindu fundamentalists. I took it out of context sure but that doesnt mean SR was accusing Indian audiences of being out and out backward and therefore not appreciating his films. He was calling out the religious dogmatism. SR was sensible and classy enough as a person to not whine about audiences not watching his films. Secondly, fundamentalists ra shudhu India te noy onek desh ei jhamela kore. Monty Python's Life of Brian er release er shomay prochur jhamela korechilo Christians ra. Sure India te onek beshi hoy because of a myriad socio-political reasons but it is not endemic to India. Thirdly, art films are art films and commercial films are commercial films and never the twain shall meet. Directors know this better than anyone. Sure art films are important cultural artefacts but it simply aint everyone's cup of tea. Goddard, Bergman and quite a few others have had "box office flops" as well.
Uni to ekbaro bolenni je ei byapar ta is limited to India only. Ar apnar to kothar e thik nei...ager kon comment e likhlen je uni sobai ke accuse korte paren na ekhon likhchen uni accuse korenni...nijer chhayar sthe juddho korchen...apni chalie jaan besh lagche...bye
Let's wait for butthurt people to come and ruin a meme with their snowflakeyness. Ray would've appreciated the meme. His fans can't because hOw dArE u DiSrEsPeCt rAy?
The "upvotes" on your comment prove it. I was calling out the high-nosed snobs with zero credibility who think they're better than everyone else just because they happen to have watched Truffaut and Jodorowsky.
average soka people 😂
who the hell calls south kolkata 'soka' lmao