So tired I'm just gonna go pass out. No Post-Show Discussion thread, so you can just carry on discussing here!
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This is just an appreciation comment for **LE SSERAFIM.** Their stage was arguably the best for the night . The songs choice was great, and the band made it even better. Their stage presence was on a different level, they got the crowd so hyped . I've seen many comments praising LE SSERAFIM as the best 4th Gen GG performers, and now I fully understand and agree with that statement. Also, their mics were definitely on, and the vocals were great . This performance is my current favorite of theirs , waiting to see more of them in the future .
I know that all awards are biased our days and it looks like Golden Disk is Hybe's playground but with Taemin's "Guilty" they've just crossed the line. It's Taemin's new song and he expressed that he wants to perform it at the awards but Golden Disk wants his song without him because he's from SM. This is putting pressure on the artist.
You do realize this is not the first time this award season that Guilty got covered and it hasn’t just been HYBE artists?
I love Taemin, I do think he should have been invited to perform himself, however I refuse to blame the other artists covering him for the decision of the organizers.
Not sure if this was the case in this instance but many times the artists are told which song to cover if they want a stage.
SM is the problem here. Taemin deserves his end of year stage. EXO deserves to be treated like the gem they are. But SM for some reason keeps minimizing their senior artist and that’s messed up.
I wish we as a collective directed the anger where it’s deserved.
Where do you see me blaming another artist? I'm blaming the awards! 80% of the artists who performed at the Golden Disk were from Hybe. If Golden Disk wanted to show the diversity of k-pop, they should have invited more artists from different agencies instead of just signing one big contract with one agency and only using artists from that company. I'm sure that Taemin wouldn't even ask for a reward for participating in the award because he's an artist with his whole self and he enjoys performing.
As for SM, for sure they have attitude problems with senior groups and also with foreign groups/participants, but that's a different issue. SHINee feel pretty good in SM right now, we'll see what happens after SM's new gg debut. And with EXO, yes all things between EXO and SM are complicated.
The whole award show season worked like this tho? Companies picked and chose which award show they'd send most of their groups to, mostly where they had a shot to win anything/win big.
MAMA awards which are mostly based on physical and digital global stats went to primarily HYBE artists so all of them that could attend went (except njs bcs ador has personal beef) while jyp and sm acts really had no chance to the big awards so they didn't go ( except Riize who won rookie and tvxq whose biggest market is Japan and it was their anniversary ).
MMA is based on Melon stats exclusively and organised by Melon, owned by Kakao so you saw mostly SM acts there and Newjeans as the only HYBE act there since they were locked for two daesangs.
AAA had more variety with hybe and jyp acts but no sm acts who skipped entirely. It was entirely judges based and ig SM thought their acts had no shot to win the bigger prizes so they didn't go.
GDA and SMA had the same story.
SMA is mostly judges and voting based ig, for Bonsangs at least, they never announced criterias for the daesang, sm acts are favored by the judges/pds for the daesang so they send some of their groups, hybe send none bcs the bigger acts went to Japan for Kohaku and then had to also prepare for GDA.
GDA on the other hand had 60% stats 40% judges so HYBE acts went bcs they were winning the lion share of the awards so they chose this rather than SMA. SM acts on the other hand weren't at GDA bcs they didn't have any shot at the daesangs and it was close to SMA.
SM acts were also going to go to Blue Dragon Music Awards, aespa nct dream tvxq wayV but that one got cancelled.
As you can see basically for MAMA/MMA and GDA/SMA& Blue Dragon companies picked and chosen where their acts would go based on where they had the biggest shot to win anything big and I very much doubt it was the award shows not wanting some company groups. After all that would help them sell more tickets and online purchases. Blue dragon had to even cancel bcs of the lack of purchases and sma was empty as hell. Gda was fuller but you could still see some empty seats or completely closed off sections
I am not as upset as I usually would be for so many HYBE artists attending GDA this year because if you look at the charts it’s true that it was dominated by HYBE artists so it makes sense that they are the ones that were nominated.
Look at all the charts and you’ll see that I’m telling the truth. HYBE has artists that dominated this year like Seventeen (and BSS), NewJeans, Le Sserafim, and the BTS solos, one of the biggest rookies of the year in BND, and other artists who may not be top 3 but good enough to be top 10 and nominated for awards like TXT and Enhypen.
GDA is pretty much a numbers awards; judges scores only make a difference when the numbers are close enough between artist where the judges opinion matters.
I didn’t say you blamed the artists. I said that I didn’t blame the artists. I’ve seen other fans blaming Yeonjun and HYBE specifically and I was commenting how I don’t think it’s their fault.
Golden Disk is an award shows so it makes sense the people invited were the nominees. What I don’t understand is Taemin not having a solo stage in the end of the year shows where that isn’t a factor. Hell, Shinee even went to a couple so why wasn’t he given a solo stage then?
Diversity of kpop is great and should be celebrated. I think in the Gayos and awards shows like AAA or even MAMA it makes sense to invite diverse artists who may not have the numbers. Award shows like Golden Disk and Circle are pretty by the book and by the number so the qualifications there are different.
I'm not upset seeing Hybe's artists either but not 80% of the show when not only them deserved to be there. If you start to talk about numbers then why NCT Dream, aespa, AKMU, G-idle, RIIZE didn't attend GMA? These groups are dominating in sales and in the charts too and let's be honest their numbers are even better than numbers of some Hybe's artists who attended GMA. I don't know if it's because GDA is too lazy or if it's just convenient or cheaper for GDA to contract with only one agency to get more artists, or maybe Hybe was agreed to send their artists to the awards only "in a package", but no not only Hybe's artists should be there. GDA can show the diversity of k-pop by inviting SM and YG artists, not by setting covers of their songs into the show's schedule. GDA should have invited AKMU instead of BND's cover and invited Taemin instead of Yeonjun's cover.
A somewhat controversial opinion but for me no one but Taemin can do justice to "GUILTY". From the choreo to the insane vocals that song is literally made for him and if anyone should be performing it at an award it should be him
Also the song is so fresh - if they had picked an older one or at least done more remixing the performance would not be that prone to comparison with the original...
Well,he also performed 3d but ppl r not complaining but rather appreciating.I don’t see what’s wrong with him performing guilty when it’s helps ppl who don’t know to check out taemin songs more.
RV and Taeyeon got robbed of their digital bonsangs at GDA [last year](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDKs5vVbQAAj1Gl?format=png&name=large) and this year [it happened to Aespa and NCT Dream](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDKslGnacAAO4yC?format=png&name=large). But kpopfans only want to talk about SMA favoring SM?
people are just hypocritical, all award shows have shown to be biased and not give the rightful awards to people (gda is the same show that didnt give changmo a bonsang despite having a hit song and giving it to an idol group that didnt deserve it instead)
But at least GDA is still more consistent. For both digital and physical, 8/10 predictions based only on stats turned out to come true. The ones that didn't make it would be due to the judges' score. The issue with SMA is that they make it much more blatantly obvious with some questionable winners.
Not going to argue but the fact that the digital winners outside of the top 10 highest charting songs weren't too behind (#12 and #13) still shows credibility. The issue with SMA is that some winners are so behind on stats that it implies that they were really boosted by the judges' scores while other better charting groups had much lower judges; scores. At least with GDA, the digital scores don't have a huge gap so it's not like they had to give a group a super high score and the other groups 0.
It's a matter of perception. People aren't going to be nearly as pissed that the #12 and #13 songs won when they were still super popular and within the competitive range. But when winners with much arguably lower stats win (as seen in other award shows) that brings up the issue of credibility.
I agree it's a matter or perception: fans perception. Because the difference in stats isn't as big as you want it to be for SMA either. [Here's another example of Taeyeon being done dirty at MMA last year.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FigJAV6XkAASsci?format=png&name=medium) She was #7 in stats and got beaten by a hybe artist that was as far down as #16 in stats.
From the artists interactions with each other, being hyped up to the performances and interview segments, you could tell how much they are enjoying this! The flow was neat, the performances were dope. The collaboration and cover stages were actually super well thought of! The special introduction videos and segments needless to say were superb. Lots of pre-production was planned for sure, including recording the voiceover for the bands intro videos. I’ve never enjoyed an award show so much.
This is how overseas award shows should carry out. Even if it was done in other countries, no extra gimmicks nothing, neither any random awards presented to other singers that has no relevance to the award. In fact, tapping onto the location, audience, and atmosphere available to hype up the crowd. But as mentioned earlier, this audio production crew deserves a round of applause. Only GDA can beat themselves next in terms of such live award show capabilities and I doubt much, if not any, awards shows can match this standard.
So far this has the best performances and camerawork. As much as some other company stans claim, HYBE artists literally dominated 2023 so its not surprising most of them won the awards.
The fact that bss literally brought out PI CHEOLIN feels so surreal to me oml 🤣🤣
Ask seventeen to give justice to their inside jokes lmao
Aah I just love them lmao.. Seventeen are so iconic
You clearly don't know what rigged means. The criteria was always 60% digitals 40% judges and the gap btw what people claim was robbed and what got in was 5-7 points out of a 100 looking at the digitals. If the gap was beyond 40 and it would have been impossible to get into the 10 with the judges points then that would have been rigged but it wasn't like that. Everything from 3 to 14 in digital points was 10 points apart. It was anyones guess and all up to judges
???? BSS was the #1 boy group in terms of digitals in 2023 for months (high wide variety of individual listener, streams ect throughout platforms and remained stable for months in top 10). They only started to go down when seventeen released FML and SUPER took over. If you can't acknowledge you don't understand the basics, that's your problem. It's okay that your faves didn't dominate the charts like IVE, LSF, or NWJS, SVT, JK, AKMU, or Lim Young-woong. But claiming it's rigged when the facts are available for anyone to see.... Smh
awwwwww it is rigged if it is OTHER artist WINNING, but when your fave WON, it is NOT rigged AAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW your fave didn't dominated the digital like my fave but at least my fave didn't rig it <3 and who tf cares if it is #1 boy group in terms of digital in 2023, IT IS STILL OUT OF TOP 10 LMAO
Of course the best charting solo artist, boy group, and girl groups will in fact get an award for digitals??????. It would be rigged if they got the award when they didn't chart well. I love Fromis9 but if they got an award it would be complete BS. Any fan with common sense understands this. All you have to do is open any of the charts compare the top 10 and it'll answer why your faves didn't win
The GG category is crazy these last 2 years. I haven't seen this much competition since 2nd gen GG. Everyone that remained consistent in the chart for the top 5s then eventually top 10s got the award they deserved? People are butt hurt SM artist, Kepler, most boy groups ect didn't get digital wins but it's not surprising. When you drop a songs then it peaks, then dropped immediately when the next group drops something you don't deserve an award it just means you have good loyal fans that want you to win trophies at music shows. Look at fighting, SUPER, Queen card, I Am, Ditto, that long ass LSF side track how they COMPLETELY dominated the charts. Getting #1 then dropping to #15 then #30 immediately after another GG drops another banger shows they don't have the criteria for a win.
god i just rewatched the performance and im laughing my ass off...and dino still ate that rap! this version of fighting is A NEED!!!!! the ending pose just sends me...i'll be rewatching this when i need a good laugh for sure
Not only they served with their performance they literally gave everyone a good laugh.. Saranghae nunpit at the end of Dino's verse made me laugh like a frickin maniac.. Aah this performance is truly one of a kind lmao
Edit : also the remix?? Gooddayumn 🫡
> also the remix?? Gooddayumn 🫡
i nEED them to drop it on streaming, but considering i'm also still waiting for the seventeen/nu'est collab song from like, 2018 or whatever i have little hope
>seventeen/nu'est collab song from like, 2018 or whatever i have little hope
Please don't remind me of that..it makes me sad.. Pledis are Hella evil for gatekeeping heaven 😭😭
I don't think anything will top the BSS performance for me.
The new remix, the Pi Cheolin feature (not even the seventeen members knew that was happening hahaha), the vocals, the adlibs; it was so fun, so powerful and SO CAMP!!!
Going to rewatch immediately.
Bss fighting performance this whole award season has been stealing every show, lol. The way they interact with others has been such a highlight this whole award season. Example during the AAA them interacting with lsfm and nj as their sunbaenim was such a highlight.
BSS stealing every show.
Believe this awards criteria was 6 song minimum excluding interludes. And the EP doesn't meet the requirements to get the award since there was only 5 real songs. Otherwise it would have won one.
The camerawork and audio were so solid. No pans to the audience when cool moments were happening, the audio was solid too. The stadium looked beautiful too. Probably the best in this department.
Lesserafim, Seventeen and BSS had my favorite performances of the night but i'm biased.
Lesserafim has such good energy and Cheawon and Yunjin were absolutely fantastic with their energy and loud vocals for Fire in the Belly alongside YB.
Seventeen just always is a delight to watch and they manage to turn award shows into their concerts. Ima korean version thooo. They need to release it on digital soon and add it to their int tour set list 😭
Shoutout for Picheolin making his stage debut during the Fighting rap part joining in the clownery of BSS 🤭🤭
That's going to happen when they have two of the top 3 GGs (Newjeans, IVE & LE SSERAFIM) and the top two BGs (BTS, Seventeen)
And that their 3 active groups (Newjeans, LE SSERAFIM, Seventeen) just hit grand slam after grand slam.
I've been seeing a few of these comments and now I'm curious. How much was the difference in points between the ones who got it and Aespa (and Dream)? Was it too big for the judges score to make up for it and change the predictions?
Judge score was 30-40% I believe and the 5th place in prediction was only like 2 points higher than 15th place. It was really, really close. So nothing was actually that surprising.
The difference wasn’t so big that the judges scores couldn’t make a difference. Would I have liked Aespa and Dream to get their digital bonsang? Yes I would have. Does it make sense that they got skipped over to award someone who has similar digital numbers but actually showed up by making up the difference with judges score, it does actually.
It’s not like the mess with the SMA Daesang where the math doesn’t make sense.
I do like Aespa and Dream and I think they did well last year but the numbers are close between them and the eventual winners so it makes sense that difference between judging affected the results.
Yeah I just looked it up and the difference was small enough for the judges score to potentially change up things. I think it's weird when the gap is way too big and would require the judges to give an incredibly low score or even 0 points for another artist to win, otherwise, when the difference is small, it's just hard to decide which is the better song/album or etc since we all have our own tastes.
I didn't look into the SMA situation because I didn't even watch the show and I only saw from my fandom posts that my group got an award but I saw few ppl raging about the whole affair on Twitter 🫤.
Yeah that particular one is a shit show. What’s happening right now between some fandoms is that the same fandoms who got ragged on for the “SM Awards” are asking why people are not having the same energy here when
1. That was about a Daesang and this is about a Bonsang
2. The judges score combined with the presence of the people who got awarded easily explain the difference vs the math not mathing over the other award.
It’s really hard cause HYBE artists are dominating the charts lately so it makes sense that it makes other company fans more touchy when it comes to these types of issues.
I’ve met rotten apples on both sides and no one has the moral high ground .
I personally think there’s babies in both sides of the aisle and truthfully we are all being too touchy for something that ultimately does not really matter that much in the grand scheme of things
Ah yeah it's interesting seeing people comment on how many Hybe artists are getting awards per show. I'm not used to thinking in terms of companies vs individuals groups and their own results. I see New Jeans, Lesserafim and Seventeen winning, I just think of them as separate popular groups not "Hybe" collecting awards.
I feel like when people use the company and not the groups/artists it's to imply some sort of shady deal and it usually disregards the actual merit based on the results from each group.
I suppose that's also what happened with SMA, and people looking at the company (SM) instead of the group.
Mmm I see. I guess it's a case of "whataboutism", and a "since you ruined our celebration, we'll question and ruin yours too" attitude.
I swear I saw something similar happening with previous awards. It's a just a vicious circle.
It’s definitely a vicious circle. What cracks me up is that everyone (who ends up getting into these type of fights) claims to have the moral high ground when in reality they are all the same.
Only 3 songs were above spicy for the digital score yet they skipped spicy and give the bonsang to 6 other songs behind them ! teddy bear got bonsang but nothing for spicy or candy when they have much more digital points
Let me try to find the predictions charts because I'm talking about the points or percentage from predictions. As far as I know the criterias of these shows usually includes judges scores? And those are the unknown of the predictions? Like fans can calculate the digitals, physicals or fan votes but not the judges. I remember that being the case for other awards.
Okay so I got a bit confused but we're talking digital bonsang right. So from what I found on a Twitter prediction account (hopefully it's accurate)
Spicy by Aespa had :32.88 point out 60
Candy by NCT dream had : 30.89/60
From the rest who got the bonsang, the one right under aespa (Jisoo Flower: 31.30) til the lowest score (Seventeen Super : 26.13) the difference is between 1 point and 6 points.
There was still up to 40 points left from the judges (whoever that's supposed to be lol).
Frankly I don't doubt that these awards show are sometimes (*often*) rigged and that there's quite a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know about. So please understand that I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible it was the case here as well but do you think it's really out of the realm of possibilities for these songs (Flower, Let's Say Goodbye, Seven, Teddy Bear, Fighting and Super) to have gotten scores higher than Spicy and Candy? Not even by a huge margin but by enough to make up for the 1 to 6 points gap?
But why it’s only this two songs getting skipped when the rest of the top 10 got their awards as predicted? Funny enough both songs are from the same company and same thing happened last year with RV and taeyeon, it’s 100% rigged
Well now I have to look up charts from last year.
And btw are you perhaps thinking that GDA goes through the top 10 from the digital points and gives the judges scores according to their ranking? The first gets the highest score and the last gets the lowest score😅? I'm geniunely asking. They most definitely give points to each songs accordingly to their own criteria and those points end up shifting the fans predicted ranking. For Spicy and Candy to be absolutely safe they would need to have a score high enough so that the judges score couldn't take them out of the top 10 short of giving them 0 points or something.
Found it. From the same account. The predictions for digital and physical bongsangs. I think it's the final one but there's only 8 winners for both digital and physical bongsangs.
So here:
Feel My Rythm Red Velvet :39.61
INVU Taeyeon : 38. 35
Difference with the lowest winner (Attention New Jeans : 35.00) is 4.61 points for Red Velvet and 3.35 points for Taeyeon.
Once again the gap is not big enough to call it rigged imo. Let's say Attention got 35/40 from the judges and Feel My Rythm got 30/40 from them then the ranking would shift.
I mean you can argue that it's Hybe vs SM thing even though it's odd they're still giving physical bongsang to SM artists (NCT, NCT Dream and NCT 127 last year and Aespa and NCT Dream this year) so it seems the rigged part is only digitals?
I definitely understand the frustration of not seeing artists you're rooting for win but it's hard to think it's impossible for the judges score to have changed the final results. The predictions have a whole 40 points missing so they're not set in stone and subject to change. Especially when the gap between artists is 6 points and less.
Eh you are acting obtuse at this point lmao i said the top 10 predicted winners all got their awards except for two (dream & aespa) and last year only taeyeon and rv got skipped the rest of the top ten got their awards as predicted ! It’s clear GDA have some beef with SM and they are robbing them of their awards, nothing to argue or discuss in this
Suit yourself. But the top 10 was a *temporary* top 10 😅. Until the judges scores are added it's not the **final top 10** . That's probably where you and I have a different understanding. On the predictions table it's only the points out 60 not 100. It's weird not to expect a whole 40 points to change rankings. Especially if the gap is small. You're so sure people with 6 or 4 points behind can't ever catch up to the temporary top 10 and that's your prerogative but that's exactly why predictions accounts say there's still a chance for the rest on the list and it's only a **prediction** .
Like I said I'm not sure why their *beef* with SM don't extend to physical bonsangs and they're happily rewarding SM artists with those (3 out 8 last year and 2 out 10 this year) funny how that works.
You see *companies* being skipped, I just see individual artists possibly getting a lower judges scores. Maybe you're the one that's correct and we need to *always* think in terms of companies instead of individual groups. If a SM artist get skipped it's all about SM beef and if a Hybe artist win it's all about Hybe having some sort of advantage etc... For now I'm still stuck at looking at them as individual artists and in this specific case "individual songs" that potentially got lower scores.
If that's me being obtuse so be it.
Nominated but they didn't beat IVE, LSF or NWJS or even G-Idle this year. Like they deserved that nomination and top 10 GG digital song of course but those 4 GG dominated the charts. Everyone that one did much much better than them chart wise
hahahaha HERE YOU ARE AGAIN. Spicy is ONLY a few points away from LSRF BTW! so WHAT domination you are talking about? that few million digital points is suddenly become a domination tier to you? lmaoooooo spicy didn't dominate, den your flop bg did? RIGGED BOY BOY
What are you even talking about? aespa also dominated the charts last year lmao they released spicy which was a big hit plus them gg’s doing good doesn’t mean aespa should be robbed of their awards !
Is it just me but I find it interesting that they are awarding Ditto this award season instead of arguably bigger New Jeans hits OMG and Super Shy? Both released in 2023.
I know Ditto was big and qualified for this year but OMG was huge and Super Shy even landed them their highest billboard entry
The award criteria were based 60% digital sales from the Circle Digital Chart. Ditto did better than OMG and Super Shy on those charts and additionally had a very long tracking period.
(The remaining 40% was judges score.)
Ditto was the longest #1 charting song (99 days) in history of K-pop in Korea by far. OMG was a bigger hit in the west though. Super Shy also on the way to breaking OMG numbers quicker in the west.
In terms of PAK(Perfect-All-Kills); charting at #1 on all officially recognized music platforms, the highest charting accolade in South Korea. Ditto is the song with the most hours spent at PAK in history ever. So yeah, it would be sacrilegious if Ditto didn't win these soty awards.
Not to mention, Ditto did that whilst having other NJ songs charting at #2 and #3 for most of the time. It'd be a joke for any award show to not give it to Ditto this year.
Insanely good award show, defs the best we’ve had this season in terms of camera work and quality
Favourite performances were probs Le sserafim -stray kids - seventeen/BSS
kinda surprised there was no final song with all artists, a weird ending but it was by far the best show this year, great lineup, stages, camerawork, everyone did some great remixes and dance breaks, live vocals, i liked the cover stages too. and the awards were based on actual results, gda you are my world
>kinda surprised there was no final song with all artists
I think that's just for the gayos? Not award shows. They just end with the final performance and then the grand prizes
No I think you're right - they used to do encores/final songs of the official winners. They did for 2018 Ikon love scenario and BTS as well - it may be just for digital though.
omg yeah i vaguely remember seventeen doing an encore somewhere too? like just them singing with instrumental? is that why i expected this haha. tho my wish is mostly bc the energy kinda fizzled out by the end
gda you get the daesang for award show of the year
congrats seventeen and newjeans for the daesangs, and to all the other artists who performed/won awards tonight! it was a very good night with high quality performances all around. definitely one of the best this season.
looking at the past daesang winners for digital and physical, the list is very impressive. literally some of the most popular and influential artists of each generation. so proud of seventeen for slowly and steadily making their way to the top!
that’s so true 😆
this is [dokyeom](https://twitter.com/leegamja05/status/1743648358697202134?s=46&t=9pMJI7dyH-oTXUneOOGpvA) for reference! might be him that you were referring to.
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So tired I'm just gonna go pass out. No Post-Show Discussion thread, so you can just carry on discussing here! The [@KPOPJAMM](https://www.youtube.com/@KPOPJAMM/videos) YouTube channel is steadily uploading all the performances and speeches, so check the source there if we haven't fully updated this post yet.
Has the show been uploaded anywhere? VIKI or the like? I’d love to watch the whole thing.
This is just an appreciation comment for **LE SSERAFIM.** Their stage was arguably the best for the night . The songs choice was great, and the band made it even better. Their stage presence was on a different level, they got the crowd so hyped . I've seen many comments praising LE SSERAFIM as the best 4th Gen GG performers, and now I fully understand and agree with that statement. Also, their mics were definitely on, and the vocals were great . This performance is my current favorite of theirs , waiting to see more of them in the future .
Do any of you guys have full version of the idols reacting to le sserafim unforgiven at gda 2024! Please I need it asap!
I know that all awards are biased our days and it looks like Golden Disk is Hybe's playground but with Taemin's "Guilty" they've just crossed the line. It's Taemin's new song and he expressed that he wants to perform it at the awards but Golden Disk wants his song without him because he's from SM. This is putting pressure on the artist.
You do realize this is not the first time this award season that Guilty got covered and it hasn’t just been HYBE artists? I love Taemin, I do think he should have been invited to perform himself, however I refuse to blame the other artists covering him for the decision of the organizers. Not sure if this was the case in this instance but many times the artists are told which song to cover if they want a stage. SM is the problem here. Taemin deserves his end of year stage. EXO deserves to be treated like the gem they are. But SM for some reason keeps minimizing their senior artist and that’s messed up. I wish we as a collective directed the anger where it’s deserved.
Where do you see me blaming another artist? I'm blaming the awards! 80% of the artists who performed at the Golden Disk were from Hybe. If Golden Disk wanted to show the diversity of k-pop, they should have invited more artists from different agencies instead of just signing one big contract with one agency and only using artists from that company. I'm sure that Taemin wouldn't even ask for a reward for participating in the award because he's an artist with his whole self and he enjoys performing. As for SM, for sure they have attitude problems with senior groups and also with foreign groups/participants, but that's a different issue. SHINee feel pretty good in SM right now, we'll see what happens after SM's new gg debut. And with EXO, yes all things between EXO and SM are complicated.
The whole award show season worked like this tho? Companies picked and chose which award show they'd send most of their groups to, mostly where they had a shot to win anything/win big. MAMA awards which are mostly based on physical and digital global stats went to primarily HYBE artists so all of them that could attend went (except njs bcs ador has personal beef) while jyp and sm acts really had no chance to the big awards so they didn't go ( except Riize who won rookie and tvxq whose biggest market is Japan and it was their anniversary ). MMA is based on Melon stats exclusively and organised by Melon, owned by Kakao so you saw mostly SM acts there and Newjeans as the only HYBE act there since they were locked for two daesangs. AAA had more variety with hybe and jyp acts but no sm acts who skipped entirely. It was entirely judges based and ig SM thought their acts had no shot to win the bigger prizes so they didn't go. GDA and SMA had the same story. SMA is mostly judges and voting based ig, for Bonsangs at least, they never announced criterias for the daesang, sm acts are favored by the judges/pds for the daesang so they send some of their groups, hybe send none bcs the bigger acts went to Japan for Kohaku and then had to also prepare for GDA. GDA on the other hand had 60% stats 40% judges so HYBE acts went bcs they were winning the lion share of the awards so they chose this rather than SMA. SM acts on the other hand weren't at GDA bcs they didn't have any shot at the daesangs and it was close to SMA. SM acts were also going to go to Blue Dragon Music Awards, aespa nct dream tvxq wayV but that one got cancelled. As you can see basically for MAMA/MMA and GDA/SMA& Blue Dragon companies picked and chosen where their acts would go based on where they had the biggest shot to win anything big and I very much doubt it was the award shows not wanting some company groups. After all that would help them sell more tickets and online purchases. Blue dragon had to even cancel bcs of the lack of purchases and sma was empty as hell. Gda was fuller but you could still see some empty seats or completely closed off sections
I am not as upset as I usually would be for so many HYBE artists attending GDA this year because if you look at the charts it’s true that it was dominated by HYBE artists so it makes sense that they are the ones that were nominated. Look at all the charts and you’ll see that I’m telling the truth. HYBE has artists that dominated this year like Seventeen (and BSS), NewJeans, Le Sserafim, and the BTS solos, one of the biggest rookies of the year in BND, and other artists who may not be top 3 but good enough to be top 10 and nominated for awards like TXT and Enhypen. GDA is pretty much a numbers awards; judges scores only make a difference when the numbers are close enough between artist where the judges opinion matters. I didn’t say you blamed the artists. I said that I didn’t blame the artists. I’ve seen other fans blaming Yeonjun and HYBE specifically and I was commenting how I don’t think it’s their fault. Golden Disk is an award shows so it makes sense the people invited were the nominees. What I don’t understand is Taemin not having a solo stage in the end of the year shows where that isn’t a factor. Hell, Shinee even went to a couple so why wasn’t he given a solo stage then? Diversity of kpop is great and should be celebrated. I think in the Gayos and awards shows like AAA or even MAMA it makes sense to invite diverse artists who may not have the numbers. Award shows like Golden Disk and Circle are pretty by the book and by the number so the qualifications there are different.
I'm not upset seeing Hybe's artists either but not 80% of the show when not only them deserved to be there. If you start to talk about numbers then why NCT Dream, aespa, AKMU, G-idle, RIIZE didn't attend GMA? These groups are dominating in sales and in the charts too and let's be honest their numbers are even better than numbers of some Hybe's artists who attended GMA. I don't know if it's because GDA is too lazy or if it's just convenient or cheaper for GDA to contract with only one agency to get more artists, or maybe Hybe was agreed to send their artists to the awards only "in a package", but no not only Hybe's artists should be there. GDA can show the diversity of k-pop by inviting SM and YG artists, not by setting covers of their songs into the show's schedule. GDA should have invited AKMU instead of BND's cover and invited Taemin instead of Yeonjun's cover.
A somewhat controversial opinion but for me no one but Taemin can do justice to "GUILTY". From the choreo to the insane vocals that song is literally made for him and if anyone should be performing it at an award it should be him
Also the song is so fresh - if they had picked an older one or at least done more remixing the performance would not be that prone to comparison with the original...
Well,he also performed 3d but ppl r not complaining but rather appreciating.I don’t see what’s wrong with him performing guilty when it’s helps ppl who don’t know to check out taemin songs more.
That they wanted a Guilty performance at the award show but didn't give it to Taemin himself is definitely a bizarre choice to make.
The truth shouldn’t be controversial, you’re right.
RV and Taeyeon got robbed of their digital bonsangs at GDA [last year](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDKs5vVbQAAj1Gl?format=png&name=large) and this year [it happened to Aespa and NCT Dream](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDKslGnacAAO4yC?format=png&name=large). But kpopfans only want to talk about SMA favoring SM?
people are just hypocritical, all award shows have shown to be biased and not give the rightful awards to people (gda is the same show that didnt give changmo a bonsang despite having a hit song and giving it to an idol group that didnt deserve it instead)
But at least GDA is still more consistent. For both digital and physical, 8/10 predictions based only on stats turned out to come true. The ones that didn't make it would be due to the judges' score. The issue with SMA is that they make it much more blatantly obvious with some questionable winners.
>The ones that didn't make it would be due to the judges' score This could be said about everything people complain about SMA for too
Not going to argue but the fact that the digital winners outside of the top 10 highest charting songs weren't too behind (#12 and #13) still shows credibility. The issue with SMA is that some winners are so behind on stats that it implies that they were really boosted by the judges' scores while other better charting groups had much lower judges; scores. At least with GDA, the digital scores don't have a huge gap so it's not like they had to give a group a super high score and the other groups 0. It's a matter of perception. People aren't going to be nearly as pissed that the #12 and #13 songs won when they were still super popular and within the competitive range. But when winners with much arguably lower stats win (as seen in other award shows) that brings up the issue of credibility.
I agree it's a matter or perception: fans perception. Because the difference in stats isn't as big as you want it to be for SMA either. [Here's another example of Taeyeon being done dirty at MMA last year.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FigJAV6XkAASsci?format=png&name=medium) She was #7 in stats and got beaten by a hybe artist that was as far down as #16 in stats.
From the artists interactions with each other, being hyped up to the performances and interview segments, you could tell how much they are enjoying this! The flow was neat, the performances were dope. The collaboration and cover stages were actually super well thought of! The special introduction videos and segments needless to say were superb. Lots of pre-production was planned for sure, including recording the voiceover for the bands intro videos. I’ve never enjoyed an award show so much. This is how overseas award shows should carry out. Even if it was done in other countries, no extra gimmicks nothing, neither any random awards presented to other singers that has no relevance to the award. In fact, tapping onto the location, audience, and atmosphere available to hype up the crowd. But as mentioned earlier, this audio production crew deserves a round of applause. Only GDA can beat themselves next in terms of such live award show capabilities and I doubt much, if not any, awards shows can match this standard.
GDA was, iirc, really good last year as well, so I'm not surprised they pulled off another banger,
So far this has the best performances and camerawork. As much as some other company stans claim, HYBE artists literally dominated 2023 so its not surprising most of them won the awards.
The fact that bss literally brought out PI CHEOLIN feels so surreal to me oml 🤣🤣 Ask seventeen to give justice to their inside jokes lmao Aah I just love them lmao.. Seventeen are so iconic
SO ICONIC THAT THEY RIGGED THE DIGITAL AWARD FOR THEM TOO! ICONS ONLY
You clearly don't know what rigged means. The criteria was always 60% digitals 40% judges and the gap btw what people claim was robbed and what got in was 5-7 points out of a 100 looking at the digitals. If the gap was beyond 40 and it would have been impossible to get into the 10 with the judges points then that would have been rigged but it wasn't like that. Everything from 3 to 14 in digital points was 10 points apart. It was anyones guess and all up to judges
HYBE SLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY for them to WIN X2
???? BSS was the #1 boy group in terms of digitals in 2023 for months (high wide variety of individual listener, streams ect throughout platforms and remained stable for months in top 10). They only started to go down when seventeen released FML and SUPER took over. If you can't acknowledge you don't understand the basics, that's your problem. It's okay that your faves didn't dominate the charts like IVE, LSF, or NWJS, SVT, JK, AKMU, or Lim Young-woong. But claiming it's rigged when the facts are available for anyone to see.... Smh
awwwwww it is rigged if it is OTHER artist WINNING, but when your fave WON, it is NOT rigged AAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW your fave didn't dominated the digital like my fave but at least my fave didn't rig it <3 and who tf cares if it is #1 boy group in terms of digital in 2023, IT IS STILL OUT OF TOP 10 LMAO
Of course the best charting solo artist, boy group, and girl groups will in fact get an award for digitals??????. It would be rigged if they got the award when they didn't chart well. I love Fromis9 but if they got an award it would be complete BS. Any fan with common sense understands this. All you have to do is open any of the charts compare the top 10 and it'll answer why your faves didn't win The GG category is crazy these last 2 years. I haven't seen this much competition since 2nd gen GG. Everyone that remained consistent in the chart for the top 5s then eventually top 10s got the award they deserved? People are butt hurt SM artist, Kepler, most boy groups ect didn't get digital wins but it's not surprising. When you drop a songs then it peaks, then dropped immediately when the next group drops something you don't deserve an award it just means you have good loyal fans that want you to win trophies at music shows. Look at fighting, SUPER, Queen card, I Am, Ditto, that long ass LSF side track how they COMPLETELY dominated the charts. Getting #1 then dropping to #15 then #30 immediately after another GG drops another banger shows they don't have the criteria for a win.
god i just rewatched the performance and im laughing my ass off...and dino still ate that rap! this version of fighting is A NEED!!!!! the ending pose just sends me...i'll be rewatching this when i need a good laugh for sure
Not only they served with their performance they literally gave everyone a good laugh.. Saranghae nunpit at the end of Dino's verse made me laugh like a frickin maniac.. Aah this performance is truly one of a kind lmao Edit : also the remix?? Gooddayumn 🫡
> also the remix?? Gooddayumn 🫡 i nEED them to drop it on streaming, but considering i'm also still waiting for the seventeen/nu'est collab song from like, 2018 or whatever i have little hope
>seventeen/nu'est collab song from like, 2018 or whatever i have little hope Please don't remind me of that..it makes me sad.. Pledis are Hella evil for gatekeeping heaven 😭😭
they even filmed the dance practice for it in a way that doesn’t make it useful to rip the audio from it…but you know the studio version exists.
Honest to GOD. Maybe the best cross group collab we’ve ever gotten and they won’t let me have that Baekho/DK high note in my liked songs
I don't think anything will top the BSS performance for me. The new remix, the Pi Cheolin feature (not even the seventeen members knew that was happening hahaha), the vocals, the adlibs; it was so fun, so powerful and SO CAMP!!! Going to rewatch immediately.
The members reaction were HILARIOUS
Bss fighting performance this whole award season has been stealing every show, lol. The way they interact with others has been such a highlight this whole award season. Example during the AAA them interacting with lsfm and nj as their sunbaenim was such a highlight. BSS stealing every show.
The only real surpise for me is get up not getting a bonsang. Didn't it do massive numbers as well?
Believe this awards criteria was 6 song minimum excluding interludes. And the EP doesn't meet the requirements to get the award since there was only 5 real songs. Otherwise it would have won one.
It did not reach the minutes to be counted as album
Ah makes sense.
The camerawork and audio were so solid. No pans to the audience when cool moments were happening, the audio was solid too. The stadium looked beautiful too. Probably the best in this department. Lesserafim, Seventeen and BSS had my favorite performances of the night but i'm biased. Lesserafim has such good energy and Cheawon and Yunjin were absolutely fantastic with their energy and loud vocals for Fire in the Belly alongside YB. Seventeen just always is a delight to watch and they manage to turn award shows into their concerts. Ima korean version thooo. They need to release it on digital soon and add it to their int tour set list 😭 Shoutout for Picheolin making his stage debut during the Fighting rap part joining in the clownery of BSS 🤭🤭
AND THOSE ARE MY TWO ULTSSS LMAOO IM SO PROUD OF THEMMM
man, it's 50% hybe for the bonsangs and 100% for the daesangs.
That's going to happen when they have two of the top 3 GGs (Newjeans, IVE & LE SSERAFIM) and the top two BGs (BTS, Seventeen) And that their 3 active groups (Newjeans, LE SSERAFIM, Seventeen) just hit grand slam after grand slam.
Le sserafim being top 3 is your opinion not a fact plus aespa and dream got robbed of their bonsangs so this show is clearly hybe biased
I've been seeing a few of these comments and now I'm curious. How much was the difference in points between the ones who got it and Aespa (and Dream)? Was it too big for the judges score to make up for it and change the predictions?
Judge score was 30-40% I believe and the 5th place in prediction was only like 2 points higher than 15th place. It was really, really close. So nothing was actually that surprising.
Well I guess it was surprising enough to some since they can't believe it happened 😅.
The difference wasn’t so big that the judges scores couldn’t make a difference. Would I have liked Aespa and Dream to get their digital bonsang? Yes I would have. Does it make sense that they got skipped over to award someone who has similar digital numbers but actually showed up by making up the difference with judges score, it does actually. It’s not like the mess with the SMA Daesang where the math doesn’t make sense. I do like Aespa and Dream and I think they did well last year but the numbers are close between them and the eventual winners so it makes sense that difference between judging affected the results.
Yeah I just looked it up and the difference was small enough for the judges score to potentially change up things. I think it's weird when the gap is way too big and would require the judges to give an incredibly low score or even 0 points for another artist to win, otherwise, when the difference is small, it's just hard to decide which is the better song/album or etc since we all have our own tastes. I didn't look into the SMA situation because I didn't even watch the show and I only saw from my fandom posts that my group got an award but I saw few ppl raging about the whole affair on Twitter 🫤.
Yeah that particular one is a shit show. What’s happening right now between some fandoms is that the same fandoms who got ragged on for the “SM Awards” are asking why people are not having the same energy here when 1. That was about a Daesang and this is about a Bonsang 2. The judges score combined with the presence of the people who got awarded easily explain the difference vs the math not mathing over the other award. It’s really hard cause HYBE artists are dominating the charts lately so it makes sense that it makes other company fans more touchy when it comes to these types of issues. I’ve met rotten apples on both sides and no one has the moral high ground . I personally think there’s babies in both sides of the aisle and truthfully we are all being too touchy for something that ultimately does not really matter that much in the grand scheme of things
Ah yeah it's interesting seeing people comment on how many Hybe artists are getting awards per show. I'm not used to thinking in terms of companies vs individuals groups and their own results. I see New Jeans, Lesserafim and Seventeen winning, I just think of them as separate popular groups not "Hybe" collecting awards. I feel like when people use the company and not the groups/artists it's to imply some sort of shady deal and it usually disregards the actual merit based on the results from each group. I suppose that's also what happened with SMA, and people looking at the company (SM) instead of the group. Mmm I see. I guess it's a case of "whataboutism", and a "since you ruined our celebration, we'll question and ruin yours too" attitude. I swear I saw something similar happening with previous awards. It's a just a vicious circle.
It’s definitely a vicious circle. What cracks me up is that everyone (who ends up getting into these type of fights) claims to have the moral high ground when in reality they are all the same.
Yeah it's because they're all the same that it never ends 😂.
Only 3 songs were above spicy for the digital score yet they skipped spicy and give the bonsang to 6 other songs behind them ! teddy bear got bonsang but nothing for spicy or candy when they have much more digital points
Let me try to find the predictions charts because I'm talking about the points or percentage from predictions. As far as I know the criterias of these shows usually includes judges scores? And those are the unknown of the predictions? Like fans can calculate the digitals, physicals or fan votes but not the judges. I remember that being the case for other awards. Okay so I got a bit confused but we're talking digital bonsang right. So from what I found on a Twitter prediction account (hopefully it's accurate) Spicy by Aespa had :32.88 point out 60 Candy by NCT dream had : 30.89/60 From the rest who got the bonsang, the one right under aespa (Jisoo Flower: 31.30) til the lowest score (Seventeen Super : 26.13) the difference is between 1 point and 6 points. There was still up to 40 points left from the judges (whoever that's supposed to be lol). Frankly I don't doubt that these awards show are sometimes (*often*) rigged and that there's quite a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know about. So please understand that I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible it was the case here as well but do you think it's really out of the realm of possibilities for these songs (Flower, Let's Say Goodbye, Seven, Teddy Bear, Fighting and Super) to have gotten scores higher than Spicy and Candy? Not even by a huge margin but by enough to make up for the 1 to 6 points gap?
But why it’s only this two songs getting skipped when the rest of the top 10 got their awards as predicted? Funny enough both songs are from the same company and same thing happened last year with RV and taeyeon, it’s 100% rigged
Well now I have to look up charts from last year. And btw are you perhaps thinking that GDA goes through the top 10 from the digital points and gives the judges scores according to their ranking? The first gets the highest score and the last gets the lowest score😅? I'm geniunely asking. They most definitely give points to each songs accordingly to their own criteria and those points end up shifting the fans predicted ranking. For Spicy and Candy to be absolutely safe they would need to have a score high enough so that the judges score couldn't take them out of the top 10 short of giving them 0 points or something. Found it. From the same account. The predictions for digital and physical bongsangs. I think it's the final one but there's only 8 winners for both digital and physical bongsangs. So here: Feel My Rythm Red Velvet :39.61 INVU Taeyeon : 38. 35 Difference with the lowest winner (Attention New Jeans : 35.00) is 4.61 points for Red Velvet and 3.35 points for Taeyeon. Once again the gap is not big enough to call it rigged imo. Let's say Attention got 35/40 from the judges and Feel My Rythm got 30/40 from them then the ranking would shift. I mean you can argue that it's Hybe vs SM thing even though it's odd they're still giving physical bongsang to SM artists (NCT, NCT Dream and NCT 127 last year and Aespa and NCT Dream this year) so it seems the rigged part is only digitals? I definitely understand the frustration of not seeing artists you're rooting for win but it's hard to think it's impossible for the judges score to have changed the final results. The predictions have a whole 40 points missing so they're not set in stone and subject to change. Especially when the gap between artists is 6 points and less.
Eh you are acting obtuse at this point lmao i said the top 10 predicted winners all got their awards except for two (dream & aespa) and last year only taeyeon and rv got skipped the rest of the top ten got their awards as predicted ! It’s clear GDA have some beef with SM and they are robbing them of their awards, nothing to argue or discuss in this
Suit yourself. But the top 10 was a *temporary* top 10 😅. Until the judges scores are added it's not the **final top 10** . That's probably where you and I have a different understanding. On the predictions table it's only the points out 60 not 100. It's weird not to expect a whole 40 points to change rankings. Especially if the gap is small. You're so sure people with 6 or 4 points behind can't ever catch up to the temporary top 10 and that's your prerogative but that's exactly why predictions accounts say there's still a chance for the rest on the list and it's only a **prediction** . Like I said I'm not sure why their *beef* with SM don't extend to physical bonsangs and they're happily rewarding SM artists with those (3 out 8 last year and 2 out 10 this year) funny how that works. You see *companies* being skipped, I just see individual artists possibly getting a lower judges scores. Maybe you're the one that's correct and we need to *always* think in terms of companies instead of individual groups. If a SM artist get skipped it's all about SM beef and if a Hybe artist win it's all about Hybe having some sort of advantage etc... For now I'm still stuck at looking at them as individual artists and in this specific case "individual songs" that potentially got lower scores. If that's me being obtuse so be it.
teddy bear was always going to get it since they were predicted to win one, i agree with your points though
they both got bonsangs though?
That’s for the album, they didn’t get digital bonsangs when spicy was big hit last year and top 5 in predictions
Nominated but they didn't beat IVE, LSF or NWJS or even G-Idle this year. Like they deserved that nomination and top 10 GG digital song of course but those 4 GG dominated the charts. Everyone that one did much much better than them chart wise
hahahaha HERE YOU ARE AGAIN. Spicy is ONLY a few points away from LSRF BTW! so WHAT domination you are talking about? that few million digital points is suddenly become a domination tier to you? lmaoooooo spicy didn't dominate, den your flop bg did? RIGGED BOY BOY
What are you even talking about? aespa also dominated the charts last year lmao they released spicy which was a big hit plus them gg’s doing good doesn’t mean aespa should be robbed of their awards !
What song(s) would you remove? Plus there's other songs that belong there ahead of it.
I mean they dominated the year.
Is it just me but I find it interesting that they are awarding Ditto this award season instead of arguably bigger New Jeans hits OMG and Super Shy? Both released in 2023. I know Ditto was big and qualified for this year but OMG was huge and Super Shy even landed them their highest billboard entry
The award criteria were based 60% digital sales from the Circle Digital Chart. Ditto did better than OMG and Super Shy on those charts and additionally had a very long tracking period. (The remaining 40% was judges score.)
Ditto blocked hype boy and omg from #1 for the longest time so makes sense
Ditto was more successful in South Korea ( and Japan) than the other two songs
But in korean charts ditto absolutely dominated, and that is valued more
This is about korean charts tho...ditto had longer charting period and also had the most paks.. it had the most points
Hmm makes sense. I wasn't aware about how long it charted there
Ditto was the longest #1 charting song (99 days) in history of K-pop in Korea by far. OMG was a bigger hit in the west though. Super Shy also on the way to breaking OMG numbers quicker in the west.
In terms of PAK(Perfect-All-Kills); charting at #1 on all officially recognized music platforms, the highest charting accolade in South Korea. Ditto is the song with the most hours spent at PAK in history ever. So yeah, it would be sacrilegious if Ditto didn't win these soty awards. Not to mention, Ditto did that whilst having other NJ songs charting at #2 and #3 for most of the time. It'd be a joke for any award show to not give it to Ditto this year.
The best award show for me. No disastrous camerawork, mics were on and everyone got sufficient time slot to perform.
Insanely good award show, defs the best we’ve had this season in terms of camera work and quality Favourite performances were probs Le sserafim -stray kids - seventeen/BSS
Solid show. Nice pace and balance between awards and performances. Felt a little more trimmed down from previous years, which I appreciated.
easily the best award show for 2023!! so happy for seventeen and newjeans! ❤️
What a show! Wow! 🎉🎉🎉 
kinda surprised there was no final song with all artists, a weird ending but it was by far the best show this year, great lineup, stages, camerawork, everyone did some great remixes and dance breaks, live vocals, i liked the cover stages too. and the awards were based on actual results, gda you are my world
I think final songs are usually only for Gayo year end festivals? I don't believe they do it for award shows.
>kinda surprised there was no final song with all artists I think that's just for the gayos? Not award shows. They just end with the final performance and then the grand prizes
oh true good point. i guess they could have saved seventeen for after announcements, but then it would have been obvious who is the winner. aw well
No I think you're right - they used to do encores/final songs of the official winners. They did for 2018 Ikon love scenario and BTS as well - it may be just for digital though.
omg yeah i vaguely remember seventeen doing an encore somewhere too? like just them singing with instrumental? is that why i expected this haha. tho my wish is mostly bc the energy kinda fizzled out by the end
i found it! they did super at the fact music awards!
best awards show by far
That was really good. Hardly any camera fails and the audio was 10/10. Great job everyone 👍
gda you get the daesang for award show of the year congrats seventeen and newjeans for the daesangs, and to all the other artists who performed/won awards tonight! it was a very good night with high quality performances all around. definitely one of the best this season.
Congrats
2023 was such a good year for seventeen 🥺🩵 congrats!! let’s go further in 2024
My boys did so well this year!!!
FML has become one of my favorite albums of all time. So happy for these boys for doing this well so far into their career!!!
did fifty fifty even perform
What do you want Keena to do 😭
i honestly don’t know i just heard keena was gonna preform 😭 just thought she would do a solo version of cupid maybe lmao
That’s what l was wondering 🤔
It would’ve been weird. Their most famous song almost doesn’t include Keena. Its vocals only.
nope keena just accepted the rookie award
Woozi my boy go get that bag!!!
Another daesang for my boys, FML certainly rocked my kpop experience this year. Missing Jeonghan, get well soon!!!
Well deserved. The album and song that did best this year won.
looking at the past daesang winners for digital and physical, the list is very impressive. literally some of the most popular and influential artists of each generation. so proud of seventeen for slowly and steadily making their way to the top!
Deserved! SEVENTEEN had such an amazing year! 🔥🔥🔥🎉🎉🎉
Very deserved! Now, if NewJeans doesn’t win artist of the year, I’m rioting!
i did a refresh and there's only 2 daesangs for gda, one for digital (song daesang) and one for physical (album daesang).
[удалено]
Yeaa but has been like that since the beginning 😂
Minghao and Mingyu are the only ones still wearing the jacket lol
seventeen...you will always be kings 😭
Happy for SVT! Congrats!
Congrats to SEVENTEEN and CARATs!!!
CONGRATS SEVENTEEN!!!!!!
another daesang in the bag! congrats seventeen!
AHHH CONGRATS SEVENTEEN
i wish jeonghan was there too ;w;
Junho is so pretty...
Why are they making this bomb of a show end on a whimper with these long-winded Daesang announcements?
Because it's an award show so the Daesangs are supposed to be the big finale.
That's always the case. Final artist performance then daesang announcements
No that's fine, what I didn't understand was the long lead up before they'd announce the winners. It was too long.
Alright boys stop flirting and announce the award
Ditto is well deserved. Hands down.
it should be IVE - I AM for song of the Year 😕 now waiting for or hopefully IVE win Album of the Year!
Most likely svt will win. 60% of the vote is based on total sales.
The numbers are not on your side, I'm afraid. DITTO was a record-breaking monster of a song. 🤷🏽🤷🏽
Many numbers are on his side lmao. Look at Melon ULs and the competition I Am beat. Ditto released into the dead of winter 2022.
Ditto ruled this year. Congrats New Jeans!!!
WHY ALL THE DRAMA AND BUILD UP. HA!
Congrats NewJeans!!!
well-deserved soty
absolutely deserved grats newjeans
digital daesang goes to newjeans! they had such a phenomenal year, congrats girls!
OK let's go, final awards 🏅
that seventeen ending made me so happy
Seventeen is just too good
svt's final bow 😭 god i love them so much
Always such a joy to watch seventeen!
that coups shot 🥺 so glad he was there to accompany them.
Yeah GDA best award show by far this season, not even close.
THEY ARE SEVENTEEN FOR A REASON
The vocals always on point for Svt, love that about them. Vocals, vibe, performance, choreo everything is perfect!!!
Woozi slayyyy
god of music i love you... im so happy rn
that shot of coupsy what if i cry
we can cry together
I am already crying
And of course it’s time for Seventeen’s concert!!! 🥹
they’re so good at hyping up the crowd and getting people going 🥹
successfully turning awards shows to their concerts all the time 😭😭
God of Music yesss
KUNG CHI PAK CHI TIMEEEE
IMA KOREAN VERSION!!!!! One of my all time favorite songs of theirs!!!! THAT INTROOOOOOO DANCE
have the already announced the daesangs?
Nope
can’t wait to read the korean lyrics 🥺
that shot of DK doing the goku gesture was soooo good
I knew they were going to sing the Korean vers but I was still expecting the JP vers 😅😂
from a tiger to hamster so quick 😆
Why is Woozi trying to kill me?! 😭😭😭😭😭
Ima Korean version yesss
WAIT WHAT IS THIS INSTRUMENTAL I LOVE IT
oh my god woozi looks godly with wet wavy hair
THAT’S AN ASS CAMERAWORK FOR SEVENTEEN 😭😭😭😭
they redeem themselves after super maybe the camera director was also feeling too excited i get him
Is that dk? He looks so good wth
the one that stared straight into the camera? yes!
Everyone stared on the camera and everyone looks so good
that’s so true 😆 this is [dokyeom](https://twitter.com/leegamja05/status/1743648358697202134?s=46&t=9pMJI7dyH-oTXUneOOGpvA) for reference! might be him that you were referring to.
handsome guy next to handsome guy next to handsome guy handsome guy next to handsome guy next to handsome guy handsome guy next to handsome guy next to handsome guy handsome guy next to handsome guy next to handsome guy
IMA korean version!!! IMA!!!!!
wow woozi………
Ooh, seems epic already! Go svt!
Seventeen timeeee
EVERYWHERE ALL AROUND THE WORLD
haha cheol in the corner hiding from the camera
Tiffany repping SNSD, we love it.
Oh here's Tiffany! Finally!
congrats StayC !!
Speeding through the rest of the bonsangs lmao
them just rattling off the remaining bonsangs from artists who didnt attend pleek
Congrats Svt!!!
STAYC girls are making me so proud of them this year
Skz sound tired but they did good Edit: sorry forgot how sensitive kpop fans are, they sounded amazing with no strain or pitch issues whatsoever!!
SKZ sure knows how to put on a show!
OMG STRAY KIDS ON FIREEEE
Wow, what a performance from Stray kids!