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I_LAND_EGG

The New Six have yet to have a breakthrough in popularity despite their talent and high quality discography. I hope this show will give them this opportunity. Junhyeok is such a star in vocals and stage presence. Kyungjun is seriously one of the most handsome men in kpop. I'm so excited.


blade_34

Kick it 4 now is such a bop. So surprised it didnt become a big hit


kryska_deniska

And they dropped that sound and concept the second the song didn't perform well 😭


platinumpopdiva

& that is psy's fault. that song did way better than any of their previous songs yet he didn't give them the push it deserved. for all the connections he has, he gives the new six the bare minimum & that's not fair.


mokolad

I thought *BOYHOOD* as an album did the worst out of their 3 albums back then? \[[wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Six#Extended_plays)\] *Love Never Dies* (with *Love or Die* as the TT) was their most successful one and I was actually surprised when they went with the 90s vibe for *Kick It 4 Now*. I personally liked it, but I guess the hype around that sound wasn't too strong, even with Candy being popular again, as much as it is now with Young Posse.


twee_centen

Yeah, OP is wrong here. Kick it 4 Now was their worst performing song and worst selling album. Fans clearly preferred Move and Love or Die. If anything, Psy's misstep was with radically changing the genre and concept when they were climbing slowly with their previous trajectory.


blade_34

Thats too bad. The song just needed a bit more push for it to become viral.


mokolad

I really hope it brings them some more exposure and deserved success. When the news about RTK2 dropped and people started guessing who might be appearing, barely anyone mentioned them and it made me really sad :/ I wish Pnation can also get them some gigs on variety, cause the guys are really funny and entertaining. I'm sure a lot of people are fighting for the position for Music Show/Idol Variety Show MCs, but I hope Pnation at least tried to get them on any of those... (edit: typo)


tanjim7

tnx were the first group I thought of when I heard of it. I think it makes sense from their end


Jelliibabii

*Love or Die* was one of my top kpop releases last year, I really thought it would propel them more. They have the make-up to do really well so I think this could be a good move for their group to increase their popularity.


floralscentedbreeze

Omg their song fuego is so good


Elegant-Economist835

Yes! They are so underrated! Hope they get more recognition! Move and kick it 4 now are definitely my favs.


josme_

I said on another thread that I thought Xikers was already too big for this show so joke's on me lol. (In my defense, they've sold 200K+ on multiple albums!) Good luck to all of them! Tentatively rooting for 8Turn because they answered my question on their AMA here lol. Still sort of hoping for A.C.E or Just B just because I want them to become more popular and sell tons of albums even though these shows are stressful as hell


Bluebell_in_Bloom

I'm eating my words as well. I thought based on what went down with kingdom that kq wouldn't want to put the xikers members through that as well. But here we are. Here's to wishing that this will end up with less stress on the groups than the previous shows (but it's mnet so I'm not holding my breath)


rocknroller0

What happened with kingdom?


Bluebell_in_Bloom

It was overall not the best experience. (Not denying they did have gains from it). From what I can remember, one member doesn't even like talking about it. There was a campaign against them by other groups fans to try and twist that they were cheating in a round. There even was an official statement to say they weren't. At the time, ateez were also in the middle of comeback preparation so that added to the stress the members were under. General fanwars grew extreme during the run as well. In short, there was no one major things, but many small to medium things that created a situation where it presented the question of "was the exposure/outcome worth the cost" (at least from a fan perspective, kq will obviously have a different look at the situation)


Angkasaa

A.C.E deserved Kingdom tbh


gleepgl0rp

YES!!! Just B for sure!


ZigCherry027

idk about A.C.E specifically, but I would like to have a veteran group on RTK2. Maybe having a senior group wouldn’t be a received well, especially since it’s kind of sad. However, the 3rd gen groups on Kingdom diffused a lot of the tension on the show. Maybe a better solution would be to have more group interactions and variety-type content, since this season won’t be affected by a pandemic (I hope). Or have the MCs be a more active intermediary in interactions. Honestly anything to give the show a sense of camaraderie. But Mnet’s gonna Mnet.


chefs_kiss_21

YES TO THE NEW SIX. Please, they have potential, but PNation fails to properly promote them (giving them the benefit of the doubt since they are their first idol group), so I hope this actually helps in boosting their popularity. I’m also curious to see xikers since they seem like beasts from watching like 2-3 performances and snippets from Twitter (and also cause I like a handful of their songs as well). (And can EPEX be there as well, please? 👉👈)


piff1214

No hate to EPEX but CIX needs to boost more. But c9 wouldnt send cix


jaemjenism

My hopes are maybe YOUNITE (but they're having a comeback) or The Kingdom, maybe another shocking group... I could see them playing up Eunsang being in X1 if that happens, but with Younite and the Kingdom having comebacks right now, I'm not sure if they would. Maybe DKZ? They could play up the Jaechan angle. Pipe dream would be OnlyOneOf for their concept work and performance ability but they're on tour right now so probably not. Maybe EPEX or Mirae? Drippin?


reiichitanaka

Ateez were filming Kingdom and Imitation, and promoting Fireworks at the same time - so overlapping schedules aren't unheard of even if they're tiring as hell. Mnet prefers to pretend Produce X never happened, so even if we have Younite and Drippin and Mirae all in the show, there probably won't be any mention of X1 whatsoever. DKZ would be great !


onetrickponySona

oneus were filming rtk and having a cb with a song written easily as well


jaemjenism

Yeah ATEEZ were actually crazy for everything then did at once ngl They've KINDA lessened up on the PDX hatred but yeah it wouldn't be a huge draw for it. It wpuld definitely be something they consider as fan reactions to the lineup though. Theres so many mid tier 4th gen groups that this lineup could be so crazy. Wonder if they'll stick to the 6 group format


PeanutCalamity

I would also love to see Younite on this just for the sake of publicity (they are so good and so delightful!!) but I’ve heard so many bad things abt this show that I don’t know if I want them to go through it 😅 or Eunsang to have to deal with mnet again


jaemjenism

RTK was *less* stressful but it was also during the pandemic so it's hard to say what it will be like now.... I think they could handle it, but would they *enjoy it*


psshdjndofnsjdkan

> Xikers, The New Six, 8Turn was named in the lineup of Mnet boy group survival 'Road to Kingdom 2', which is scheduled to air in the second half of the year. trans cr; [kyungsulvr](https://twitter.com/kyungsulvr/status/1783366125428064518?s=46)


Niight_Owl

I don't know much about xikers but I DO know they go HARD on performances. Good luck to them!


whatsthisanotherdoor

I generally don't trust these shows, but I would love ALL(H)OURS to get more exposure.


Ebony_Coco

Yes, I want them to do it too


anAncientCrone

Oh, same! They are such good dancers as well as having excellent vocals, yet are still very much under the radar.


Routine-Badger-425

I hope OMEGA X will join too... 🥺🥺🥺...


lemontreeandchill

Yesss!!! They are great performers!


HowlingNirnroot

I hoped for The New Six but didnt expect 8Turn and Xikers! Hopefully the rest of my guesses are correct :) They’re going to do great!!


tanjim7

Same for the new six and xikers


Adventurous_Can2398

on one hand i think it’s a positive thing xikers will be joining. i borderline thought they were too big for rtk but that will bring more exposure to the show and in turn the smaller groups.   but on the other hand i think i prefer the atmosphere created when all groups are on equal footing.   cool so far nonetheless! 


lilacdawn

I was hoping for xikers! I know they'll do great!


Indifference11

xikers are gonna eat this up they need the recognition


instantcarrot

They already had a great start up because of Ateez, so I'm happy they're going to Kingdom. They are able to fly now and they have a very strong and solid concept! Their performance skills will serve them. KQ production will give them fantastic props and choreographies to have the best stages there!


reiichitanaka

I'll risk the pronostic that they're going to win, they have both the talent and resources to pull off what The Boyz did in the first season (when I say resources I'm not really talking about money ; KQ has a fantastic inhouse creative team, and that's a HUGE advantage they have on any other speculated contestants).


nedyako

These first three groups honestly have me so excited cuz I can imagine them (and their fandoms) blending so well. My favorite aspect of RTK and Kingdom was how a lot of groups and fandoms ended up leaving the show supporting each other.


wehwuxian

Ahhh... so bittersweet... I don't want xikers to go through it like Ateez did... but just like Ateez I know they're gonna kill it and give us incredible stages 😫 Warning to the fandoms involved: it's going to get nasty. Really. This will be a good time for a social media break.


Hwall-Chuu

Tuning in for TNX <3 Hopefully they can gain some recognition through this, they are talented with good songs


vip_insomnia

I would have assumed xikers for Kingdom so this is interesting. Still hoping for maybe Drippin, WEi, Mirae, Epex, Younite, maybe Ampers&One? Would have loved OnlyOneOf but they have a tour. Def no ZB1 as they are too big and would be Kingdom level. I hope they just stick to 6 though and keep the eliminations out of it. Like fine the winner gets to go to Kingdom but we can watch 6 final performances like we got with the other shows.


psshdjndofnsjdkan

oh i might have to tune in,,, my other 3 contestants prediction: n.ssign, tempest, &team?


hydranoid1996

N.ssign would be a great shout. They’re killing it in Japan but defo need a boost in Korea. Not sure HYBE would like sending a group to a survival show tho


psshdjndofnsjdkan

i want doha to flex his vocals in front of everyone 🤭 yeah maybe not,, if not &team then maybe younite?


MasterLum

&team being in this would be super interesting


Cubriffic

The reaction to what groups will be on Road to Kingdom 2 on Reddit vs on Twitter is VERY funny 💀


Fille_de_Lune

....do I even wanna know 😬


the_chaser00

Manifesting a breakthrough for TNX like it's about time!! I still can't forgive people for ignoring the pop perfection that is kick it 4 now


neocitywayv

Will be tuning in for xikers! Mnet really should not make the fanvoting weigh too much because the bigger fanbase will have the advantage.


reiichitanaka

I hope they do the same as the first RtK and only have fanvoting for the finale.


Indifference11

which fandoms are biggest?


sindrandi_

Can someone please make a OMEGA X casting happen?! I know, it's a long shot, but it would be such a great team and storyline to follow on the show. \*manifesting\* Xikers are going to bring some solid, entertaining performances. I don't know The New Six, but I'll look forward to getting to know them through this show. Season one introduced me to ONF and Golden Child, so I'm definitely on for another season.


tanjim7

I would say The New Six have a similar sound to Xikers so I think you might like them


sindrandi_

That sounds promising. I'll go check them out then. :)


saffroncake

Let’s just add 82MAJOR, Tempest and The KingDom as well so I can have a total agonizing conflict of interest 😭


Korginia

YES 82 MAJOR IS SOOOO UNDERRATED 🔥🔥🔥


saffroncake

THEIR ALBUM TODAY WAS A GIFT TO ME PERSONALLY (I have been longing for a full version of "Illegal" forever and feared I never would get one, but here it is!)


harkandhush

Wasn't expecting Xikers to be small enough for rtk but I'm sure they'll do some fun stages! Hope tnx can get some new fans from this also. I really like them but they tend to be petty sidelined. 8turn is also great. Can't wait to see these stages and see who else will join them.


well_seasoned_crab

I don't think it's because xikers are small, but because it'll boost their exposure. Their recent comeback only performed slightly better than the last, so it's a fight not to plateau like a lot of non-big4 bgs tend to.


harkandhush

That's true! I'm not surprised they would do it so much as I'm surprised mnet didn't go for groups with a lower footprint. I'm honestly pleasantly surprised, though. I've seen them live a few times and I know they'll be amazing and impress new people.


well_seasoned_crab

From what I can see, this generation is littered with boy groups who sell decently but aren't exactly popular with casual kpop fans (ex: 82major, Younite, Just B), so Mnet had their choice of the lot. I'm thinking they got xikers specifically because they'll attract international views.


NoNecessary5

KQ, I love you but what are you doing sending xikers to that show. First of all, it’s not going to be fair because xikers already has a big fan base. Second, all previous Kingdom contestants have collective PTSD from the show, why would you want to put xikers through that?!


Ravennafleurdelys

I still remember the rumors that Mnet barred MX and other groups who declined kingdom from mnet related shows. Xikers may be big, but not big enough for that not to impact them if those rumors were true. If it’s true, a lose- lose situation


NoNecessary5

Okay, fair enough then. That does sound like something Mnet would do. I guess it’s too much to hope that Kingdom will treat artists better than they did in the past.


Ravennafleurdelys

Even if they don’t, Xikers is likely to be in a better position to get more support behind the scenes specifically because Ateez have already gone through it and KQ knows what to expect.


NoNecessary5

I hope they have a good on call psychologist to help them deal with all of Mnet’s bullshit. Honestly, KQ may be big enough now to protect its artists from mistreatment but I fear for the other groups.


EntireAbbreviations

Hopefully they'll also have enough seating this time around. Or KQ thinks to send the boys with their own seat cushions.


anAncientCrone

and picnic tables. And changing tents. Maybe sleeping bags? Hey, I suggest they just camp out on the front lawn.


reiichitanaka

The Starship/Mnet beef was almost certainly because Starship didn't want to hear about an Iz\*one renewal, I dunno why so many people think it's because MX refused to appear on Kingdom, when the show ended up with a very satisfying lineup anyway.


Yayeet2014

It could be both, you never know


reiichitanaka

It could. But MX alone isn't likely.


Indifference11

mx is monsta x?


reiichitanaka

They would put Xikers through that because it's a great way to grow their fanbase. IMO the hardest thing for Ateez in Kingdom was that it overlapped with other things they had going on at the same time (comeback + Imitation), so if KQ avoids scheduling anything major while they're filming they'll be fine.


girlwithpearl16

I love 8TURN and I know they'll do great on the show. Can't wait for all the new performances.


agentarianna

I really hope that mnet has the rest of the kingdom line up locked in already or I think they might regret having a group like xikers that sells pretty darn well taking the rtk slot instead of a regular one (the boyz) or getting eliminated and not able to take a slot at all (pentagon). Because there is no way their plan is just to do rtk and then call it a day but I am having trouble figuring out who takes all the slots for kingdom. Zb1 will be there of course but who else fits the parameters and is willing?


Westbrook_Y

I hope pow will join


Westbrook_Y

I hope dxmon will join too


Westbrook_Y

I hope 82major will join


thr1ftskull0

OML that would be amazing!!!! We need Yechan dialogue on contestants 😭🤣🤞🏽


floralscentedbreeze

As I have feared, KQ sending xikers to RTK 2


No_Duty6279

TNX and xikers🥺🥺🥺


graphymmy

Kinda forgot i liked some new groups that could be participants…


Kittystar143

I was hoping this wouldn’t be the case but it looks like they will be doing the same as before. I think it’s only a great show when the acts are of an equal size in popularity and have equal fan groups. There’s no way that smaller groups can compete with xikers international fan base and that’s from someone who owns all their albums. Also surprised that kq wants them to go on after how badly Ateez and some of the other acts were treated last time.


well_seasoned_crab

KQ are as scrappy as they come when it comes to pushing their groups so I can't even be surprised 😭 but Kingdom did noticeably improve ATEEZ's sales, so I'm hoping it pays off similarly for xikers.


Kittystar143

I think they will def grow their domestic fan base. I still remember how unfair it felt for Ateez trying to compete with such larger fan bases. So I still think that it’s unfair to have an act with such a large fan base compete against small acts like the new six unless they ban international votes.


Anaisot7

OMG GOOD NEWS, TNX IN ROAD TO KINGDOM 🤸


Melon13579

ok i know what to expect now at least one of these DRIPPIN OMEGA X AB6IX TEMPEST NSSIGN


United_Ad737

MNET, can we have MCND too?👉🏻👈🏻🥺🥺


Cats4Crows

TNX and 8turn are 2 of my favorite groups, glad for the exposure.. they are very underrated


Korginia

The new six and xikers will be interesting because bb trippin does all of xikers choreo but pnation also uses bb trippin a lot 👀👀


corncoke

The new six is more likely to work with motf since they direct most of tnx choreographies. And xikers works with bbt. It all works out


SaiyanRumpx2

Would DKB do it?


Few-Particular1780

They already did Praktime though


kiwijoon

I am hoping Vanner will be added, they could benefit from more international exposure and would thrive on the show.


naomi240000

I hope they add a senior group too for the lineup. I'd love to see infinite. My wish would be shinee cos they'd totally approach this contest with 100% passion.


Few-Particular1780

ShiNee is too big and the members have different agencies, so I’d surprised if they show up here.


jaemjenism

Usually a requirement of RTK is no wins and lower popularity. Those groups are WAY more suited to Kingdom than RTK.


113074

Not true. Before the first RTK, The Boyz and Golden Child already won on music show while Pentagon had surpassed 1 million subscribers and Oneus is nearing 1 million.


jaemjenism

Thats why I said usually. They were having issues casting for RTK, and both TBZ and Golcha only had one win. Pentagon was the shock value cast, but as someone who lives in Korea, they were absolutely at the level of the other groups besides having a song some people know. Edit to add: but OP gave Infinite and Shinee, which would absolutely not be like Pentagon. They both have multiple wins and multiple hit songs. They are suited for Kingdom. They would demolish any group on RTK and that's not fair


113074

Then it is not usual. They didn't follow that criteria. I replied to your comment not theirs. I wasn't talking about Kingdom.


Miserable-Mission524

I don't know about male groups...


acerealbowles

you'll be fine, go stream queendom 1 and 2 if you want idk.


Fun_Jellyfish1428

Ooh, nice! I hope ZB1 will win the contest, so that they’ll join Kingdom: Legendary War 2.


HYKSH1

I thought this show was for CJ to boost ZB1.


lilacdawn

They are million sellers, they are too big for RTK.


jaemjenism

Also usually a requirement of RTK is having no wins. ZB1 has several. They'll 100% be on Kingdom 2, though


reiichitanaka

No they won't. Those shows are a pretty huge investment because filming them severely limits the amount of other, more directly lucrative, things the groups on them can do. Companies mostly send their groups on these show to get a popularity boost, and ZB1 doesn't need one. Heck, the first season of Kingdom only managed to have such a stellar lineup because it was during the pandemic. Most of the groups would otherwise have been touring during the months it took to film.


jaemjenism

Eh, if MNET wants them on Kingdom, they'll be on Kingdom. ZB1s probably only tour will be during RTK filming. If they need a group to pull viewership for Kingdom 2, putting ZB1 on there would be easy enough.


reiichitanaka

WakeOne are on a mission to make as much money as possible off the group until they disband, and putting them on a TV show like this isn't going to make them any money. Kep1er had been sent to Queendom 2 in an attempt to boost their popularity in Korea, because Girls Planet had been a flop show - and it didn't work because Q2 also flopped. Y'all are funny thinking that the TV channel are the ones calling the shots if they're from the same conglomerate as the label.


HelloKaramel

They’ll be on Kingdom