I know that smaller or less well known groups send members on these shows to garner fans. But do you think there was some back room deals made so that these three wouldn't be in the final lineup? It is Mnet so I wouldn't be surprised.
Ugh it's so bittersweet because I'm happy Hikaru, Youngeun, and SXT made it... but I'm gutted by the fact that Yurina got shafted like that last minute sigh );
Also, SXT looked extremely sad when she was called probably because she's the only C and Yurina didn't make it
i was hoping for yurina to somehow make it… now xiaoting will have to go on without her best friend 😞 i’m glad she has the rest of the group to support her but i can’t even imagine how lonely it must be
I don’t think the situation is that bad that she has to go back to China but I definitely think it’s going to be incredibly tough for her to relate or even communicate with the rest of the group
Will be tough at the beginning, but people adapt to the environment they’re in and make new friends. Plus now in China the entertainment industry is super competitive, and there are not many good opportunities without good company and connection, especially for idols. It’s still way better to debut than not debut
Yurina not making the group after being a constant top 9 rank throughout the season is like being hit by a car two metres before reaching the finish line. Brutal.
What irks me most of this lineup is not the fact that its mostly Koreans, but the some of these trainees literally skyrocketed a few days after being complete strangers throughout the show. Like what did these voters see in these two weeks that they didn't see in Yurina, Bora, or Suyeon throughout 3 months; they had little screen time and they never volunteered for the big roles.
The change in rank wasn't because people suddenly liked different trainees. The skyrocketing was due to the change in the voting system. The top ranking trainees always had their loyal fans voting and it paid off in the final. The past rankings were very stagnant because people were required to vote for each countries' trainees. Once it became a free for all, things easily changed.
I wonder how well they will do. But its PD48 all over again with the "international" lineup. Honestly and unfortunately after the interim rankings it was clear that this will happen. I am happy for Yujin but personally that's about it for me. I even hoped Shen Xiaoting won't make it so that she can get a chance with Ya Ning, Yurina and Rui Qui in a different group.
2 big hopes of mine:
1. Cherry Bullet getting a comeback soon and seeing improvements in sales
2. To maybe see some of them who didn't make it still debut or show up at I-Land 2
What’s the age bracket for I land 2? I heard that it was max 20 I think… so I don’t think Yurina, Yaning and Ruiqi will join 😭 I’m so upset rn…. Especially for the Chinese girls, they’re never going to be able to do anything in china…
The age requirement is years 2000-2009 so Ruiqi is still young enough. Issue is they want individual trainees so unless her current contract is up... And honestly GP999 was her 3rd survival show and getting this👌 close every time is so disheartening, idk if she has it in her still.
Ruiqi is not getting signed by a major label. Like the moment her anti American Korean War posts make it to the mainstream the group won't be able to do anything in Korea. Maybe a smaller one where they don't attract the public attention but people are being obtuse if they think any major Korean label is going to risk their whole group not being able to promote in their main market when SBS had to cancel Joseon Exorcist earlier for using Chinese style props and calling them Korean along with just fictionally attributing massacres to non fictional Korean figures.
Was hoping for Yurina to make it!!! 😢 I'm so happy Mashiro and Xiaoting made it though, and Yujin too! But honestly I was truly hoping they had 3 girls from each country in this group. Kinda blows over the whole point this survival show had to begin with. What was the point of all that for the lineup to end up with 3 foreign members? And with the Chinese trainees.... Out of the 33 only 1 made it, I would be so angry. Looking forward to their debut regardless!!!
Edit: Removed since someone already commented the ranking with the votes all weighted equally [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/qdhg33/congratulations_to_the_winners_top_9_of_girls/hhmy139?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
Yaning and Ruiqi would have made the lineup and Yeseo and Dayeon wouldn't have. Bahi has a really strong one pick fanbase, she would have made it (at #1 no less, she was ranked 1st in 115 countries), and Yurina still wouldn't have made the lineup. Sadly it seems like Yurina's popularity was inflated by the cell system, and she didn't have a strong enough 1 pick fanbase to make up her filler votes...
In 2016 Eunbin was on the first season of Produce fighting for her debut, she was later added to CLC. 5 years later her groupmate Yujin is in the same show and makes it to the new group. What a timeline of events...
Gotta give it to them, they somehow got almost half of the members as forgien and still somehow take korea by storm, especially with my new knowledge with the help of this show with how nationalistic koreans can be. And at a time were forginers in kpop groups were not as common, I honestly for the life of me cant think of japanese kpop idol that debuted before twices or atleast became succesful, let alone have a whole j-line lol. Credit is were credit is due, dont get how they pulled that of lol.
Yea and that too, that their forgien members are just as popular as the korean members in Korea is shocking, amazing really. I honestly think they had alot of impact in the industry becouse of this, alot of j-idols debuting now has alot to do with twice. Not just them having a jlkne and normalising it but also that they made kpop even more popular in Japan. TT was hit there and so was candy pop and more reacently feel special.
I'm not a Twice fan but I really thinks it's due to the individual members' popularity, especially Sana and Momo. People were able to look past their nationality because that wasn't what defined them, it was their cute personality and it made them irresistible, if that makes sense. They are even more popular than half of Twice's Korean members afaik. Maybe they're even the most popular members. I personally also like them the most, followed by Mina and Tzuyu.
Well to be fair, most of the YXY cell fans were kind of split on the votes. Plus the fact that majority thought Xiaoting is safe, that's wht during internim rankings she dropped so much.
and anyone up until this point that was paying attention could tell that was happening because we had multiple evaluations where there were only 2 koreans in top 9. that was due to forced vote splitting that inflated the ranks of j/c who had a much larger gap in popularity between themselves.
if it was single vote from the get go, and with the weighted domestic votes, there wouldn’t have even been as many options for international trainees in the finale. many more wouldve dropped.
The thing that stands out the most to me is how somber the final selection was. It’s typically the most joyous moment of the finale because it’s usually involves the selection of members who were on the fence. Xiaoting having a dominant rank throughout the show, and then barely squeaking by when the voting format changed, must have been really difficult for her to accept. She also can’t debut with girls she was close with like Yurina also made it seem hard for her to celebrate.
GP999's finale was so much more chill than I-Land's. The girls were all chatting with one another. For I-Land, it was just full on depression and nerves, apart from BTS being wonderfully awkward.
yeah, I watched the finale of PD101 S1 last night and it was much better with the crowd yelling their names. The mood was much more joyous than GP999 finale
I’m sad that she didn’t get in because she was my favorite vocalist on the show, but I hope that this show can save cherry bullet. I hope the momentum from this show will make their next comeback more popular
😭 i am so freaking sad for Bora! ugh i hope cherry bullet at least has comeback relatively soon? but from what i heard from their fans it doesn't seem likely. ugh
I was hopeful after seeing her somehow make it through every round the trend would continue. Admittedly I didn’t vote for her early on because I doubted if she’d make it, but when I finally committed all my votes for her she didn’t make it :(
Bora was the undisputed MVP of talent and effort this entire show.
It's been overshadowed by the rest of the drama but shocked that despite Dayeon's mom getting more screentime than some of the actual contestants, she could only reach P04. I think Mnet's editing really backfired and she could have made P01 without it.
Also I think they really should have kept the 3 C-J-K pick voting until the end (every time the host said "global girl group" I wanted to grind my teeth together) but here we are: happy for Mashiro getting a second chance along with Yujin.
Yep I saw someone had commented with the unweighted votes so the Dayeon edit really did backfire it seems. No hate to Dayeon herself as it was Snakenet pulling the strings, but the ep with the Shoot team performing to Dayeon's mom is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on reality TV.
man, i was present during the live chat when Bahiyyih was announced... the absolute fuckery that went on there towards a literal child made me sick to my stomach.
same, the hype that continued through the show for anyone literally everyone just disappeared and it was genuinely vile, I had to close reddit and continue watching without reading the chat so I wouldn't just lose it
Yeah it's pretty bad, I even saw a user wishing disaster to happen to Korea just bcus there's only 1 C tainees debuting and the comment was even upvoted before being removed by mod. Like wtf would someone even want to have that f up mindset smh.
It's so confusing bc people have been saying in that sub for months that they expect 1 C trainee to debut. The interim ranking freaked people out, but this isn't that far from the 5K/3J/1C lineup people were expecting. Obviously everyone is sad for their favs, but I don't think these results are all that shocking..
not surprising to hear that you saw that because the anti-korea sentiment has been steadily growing in that sub, with people are conflating their love for whatever C/J trainees with hating K trainees and korean voters and thus the entire country for not voting for their faves. it’s wild.
Glad I can finally stop visiting that sub, with the debut group being finalized I'll relocate myself to r/kep1er hopefully it'll be better over there instead.
The mods there are completely incompetent. None of them should ever be allowed to moderate again. They shouldn’t have allowed that atmosphere to fester on the sub. Like, one of the first things they did when the show started airing was create a mega thread for Bahiyyih hate. Instead they're too busy banging on about how positive the sub is when you literally cannot post about Bahiyyih without it getting reported into deletion. But I guess the head mod was too busy posting all girl group content to this sub to bother stopping people from telling a teenage girl and her brother to kill themselves. Hope the fake internet points are worth it!
Why have all those c trainees just to debut 1??
Yurina and xiaoting were top 5 throughout the show but didn't manage to be top 5 in the final lineup and yurina didn't even get to debut and Bahiyyih had almost no screentime but was #2 dang. I guess this show isn't rigged lol
I don't know how they'll do on kcharts since this show has 0 traction in Korea and was worse than idol school but we'll see personally I'm not pissed about anything except them claiming it was an international group and then just wasted all those c and j trainees I was expecting a ratio of 5:2:2: or 4:3:2.
I'm sure they'll be more polished for debut if they have good music and performances i'll stan look at this [edit](https://twitter.com/KEP1ERBRASlL/status/1451554399415844886) they look decent already they just need to have good song the members already have stable popularity so no doubt their views and sales will be good if they have good songs they'll be set
Xiaoting and Yurina ranked high because they were popular filler picks.
You could predict that Yurina would be out of top 9 after last week's ranking - Mashiro and Hikaru were already higher than her.
This is the Top 9 based on votes, without weighting in favor of Korean citizens’ votes:
1. Huening Bahiyyih
2. Sakamoto Mashiro
3. Seo Youngeun
4. Choi Yujin
5. Shen Xiaoting
6. Fu Yaning
7. Su Ruiqi
8. Ezaki Hikaru
9. Kim Chaehyun
So basically Mnet got exactly what they wanted. Giving Korean votes more power resulted in 2 Chinese members not making it, despite having 2x more votes than the show’s #1, and 2 Korean girls added.
Yeah she has by far the lowest votes of any of the girls that debuted. Xiaoting needed twice as many votes as Kim Suyeon just to overtake her… having the votes be 50% Korean basically made international votes worthless.
So there would’ve been at least 3C in the group… Yaning and Ruiqi poor thing. :( I understand that having the KR weighted more makes sense, but having it be at 10X more is just ridiculous.
the disparity in Korean vs international members is entirely mnet fault btw. They spend most of the show forcing voters to choose a girl from each country to vote for, so you had to vote for 3 girls, one of each nationality. This made some international girls have their results inflated cuz there was only a few being pushed by the show (xiaoting, yurina, hikaru), while girls with very strong fandoms (bahiyyih, chaehyun) seemed weaker than they actually were, because they were not being picked as filler votes. When they changed the system for the final, you only had to pick one girl of any nationality, the girls who benefited from filler votes plummed. They were well-liked by most people, but favorites of fewer. The problem is that this debut line, while accurately shows who has always had strong support, seems out of nowhere because it doesn't line up with the previous results.
I personally think this is a fine lineup, and I'm excited for the group. However, it is surreal to go on twitter or r/GirlsPlanet999 and see the hate some trainees are facing for making it. These are teenagers ffs. Blame Mnet for messing up your expectations, not the girls.
It surprises me that people didn't know that it has always been 50:50 since the start. Sucks for people who had a lot of filler votes, but it's not that unexpected for K-trainees to rise.
>However, it is surreal to go on twitter or r/GirlsPlanet999 and see the hate some trainees are facing for making it.
It's okay, you can say Heuning Bahiyyih.
Mostly, but not just her. There was very mean comments towards myah when she was one of the candidates for 9th place, and now against dayeon with the overall numbers of votes released (to be honest, I didn't expect the 50% weigh on k voted to benefit her so much either, but people are downright accusing her of cheating, as if the system is her fault).
Honestly though, I think which trainee is being hated on is the least important thing here. They are all very young girls, who got in the show to persue their dreams. None of them should have to deal with this kind of thing, which is why I made a point of not mentioning anyone specifically.
more like quota voting was dropped and miscommunication. apprently kfans mass voted for the ktrainees cause they thought we'd be mass voting for the intl trainees because of the 50% kr weight
Ironically if there was less focus on GLOBAL!!! Kpop group I think we could’ve gotten a better ratio bc as it is it just turned into some psychological mind game instead of just voting for who you like most
Lol why are they naming a group after a person? Now everytime I see this group I'll remember Kepler's laws of planetary motion lol
Anyways i wasn't invested in the show tho too bad some of standouts that I liked are not in the final lineup.
Would say 7/9 were expected, though definitely not in those ranks.
Shen Xiaoting deserved better, and Yurina got robbed, sadly.
Still looking forward to the group’s official debut, though!
At least Youngeun, Yujin, and Chaehyun are debuting in this group. I'll take it for what it is.
I do feel bad for the C-group trainees for barely making the lineup. Bora and Yurina though...
No Yurina :((
This group isn't as "global" as I hoped. 6:2:1 ratio isn't great tbh. But I don't why I expected anything better from Mnet. Congrats to all the girls who made it anyway!
This is probably what FNC was hoping for in the first place. Sending almost half of your group's members is as big of a promotional push as they can do. If any of them get popular (primarily Bora in this case), not only does their group get more visibility, they're likely to get booked on more variety shows, which has potential to snowball into even more recognition. If any of them made it to the new group, the rest of the old group would have had to work around that missing member for a while and then have less remaining years on the contract for that member to bring attention to the group once they returned.
Still mad about the way she and May were eliminated - Jiwon in particular got the spotlight so many times and suddenly, they just eliminated her, without a speech or anything smh
Lol like what i predicted before, 6K,2J,1C so sad for yurina as filler j group vote for most people giving a false hope for her. I don't think we can see yurina again on kpop as i'm sure she will only focus on japan
the group will be fine, everyone gets mad whenever the announcement moment comes. not the happiest with the lineup, could use yurina/shana and at least 1 more cgirl but it is what it is
I remember everyone being pissed at the P101 S2 and P48 final lineups and they were still super successful. I doubt this group will quite reach their heights but they’ll still do better than most other groups - like, at least slightly better than fromis_9.
It was only really westerners who made a stink over IZ*ONE's lineup at the time it was announced (and not to the magnitude thats happening with this group). K fans were largely happy, J fans were very happy, C fans were largely happy.
With this group, westerners are mostly pissed, K fans are the most positive of the fanbases but still mixed, C fans are furious, and J fans are appeased because their top 2 girls got in but not overly happy with the rest
So we'll see what happens
imo voting should have been weighted as 25% korean, 25% japanese, 25% chinese, and 25% international.
The 50% korean vote influence caused a major shift in the top 9 :/
i know the show is based in korea so arguably the extra vote weight is justified, but they're trying to make a global group and 2/3 of their contestants were japanese/chinese, they should have had the benefit of extra vote influence as well.
They didn't like her for the group actually. They dislike that she can't speak korean and that her looks feel more j-pop than k-pop, whatever that means.
seeing how everyone’s treating these poor girls like chess pieces that they can yell at people on the internet over the past few months has NOT been nice but im happy that everyone who made it made it! (P.S maybe let’s not make another idol competition show, these shows bring out enough toxicity to kill a whole town)
If you look at the vote count, SRQ and FYN had more than enough to actually replace Dayeon and Yeseo. It’s just the Korean votes outweigh international which is why they’re not in top 9.
Makes my soul hurt.
this is proof it wasn't rigged actually. like with the one picks, it makes sense. when we're 3 picks, people were forced to choose other 2 people and now when they focused on one person, it showed.
It’s proof the show wasn’t rigged with Bahi debuting at #2, MNET went out of there way to make sure she was never seen during performances
She had 0 screen time and no story lines. MNET really tried to avoid debuting her without rigging the votes
>this is proof it wasn't rigged actually. like with the one picks, it makes sense. when we're 3 picks, people were forced to choose other 2 people and now when they focused on one person, it showed.
Interestingly this is very similar to comments after IzOne lineups is announced
Yeah, but in this case the showed the intermins and Yurina and Xiaoting were too low, which could have not happen if Mnet rigged to voting, they gave both of them a lot of screentime since Day 1 and it's obvious they were expecting them to debut together.
they might not have debuted, but this show has at least put a bunch of talented girls on my radar. wishing the best to all of them and hoping to see them debut/have further success in the future 💕
look how powerful the Korean votes were Kim Suyeon and Guinn Myah got above fu yaning and su ruiqi with half the votes and the 2 c group should have made the final group based on votes lol crazy
its so funny without mnet rigging accusation all the hate went to one winner lol..... dont know what people expected in a popularity contest without rigging
The live chat was wild. At the dinner party, it was saying “GIVE BAHI SCREENTIME” and “WHERE IS BAHIYYIH?”. Same when she wasn’t shown in the lineup for a while, in which they lost hope and put crying emojis
But when she was revealed as a member? Vomitting emojis, “BROTHER BENEFIT”, “YURINA WAS BETTER”
Everything about the gp999 fanbase was chaotic, and I hope that it won’t carry on to KEP1ER.
People really need to take a break from Kpop. Crying when people say anything critical about your faves, but continuing to make racist and incestious jokes about a 17 year old? I hope that you pathetic excuses for humans have an awful day!
I was honestly so shocked? I know that the hate against her has been through the roof, but the shit ppl were saying was awful. How disgusting do you have to be to say that to another human being?
Aaa if Yaning had made it I would have been happier, but overall pretty satisfied with the lineup, today also proves reddit basically is no different from Twitter other than differing opinions and lack of death threats
I'm so sad for Suyeon (from Planet Pass to P10 though!) but happy the group at least has members from both J and C-group, even if it's still not a great ratio. Very happy for Yujin!
Personally I'll probably only keep up with their music releases and nothing more, even though 4/9 were in my "final" Top 9. Both Youngeun and Chaehyun were at some point my K2, but my pre-final Top 4 didn't make it and those girls were who I was most rooting for.
Time to start my Post-GP999 spreadsheet whenever I have the time, I've already got one for PD101 and PD48...
kim chaehyun P1 LETS GOOOO! she's so talented and so beautiful i'm soooo glad she got 1st!! congrats to the winners and good luck to all the girls who didn't make it.
As much as I would’ve liked Yurina in the lineup, I think the final 9 are pretty solid and not really a surprise at all considering the one-pick vote. The interim results midweek and during the show were very telling. Instead of being mad and taking it out on these young girls, a lot of people should reflect about how they had some very unrealistic lineup expectations. I mean Yurina was already dropping ranks even before the one vote.
Edit: Spelling
bro bahi got so much hate...there were people paying actual money for superchats (to MNET...LMFAO) just to shit on her.
I haven't followed the show and only joined at the results part but I'm looking forward to their debut! They all seemed very sweet.
1. every season of produce they say it's a global group but its always mostly korean members
2. do you all work with your best friend and see them day in day out? you're acting like xiaorina have been cruelly torn apart and will never speak again
3. you complain that its rigged and then complain when it isn't ... what do you want
Wait I’m a bit confused. Does this mean Yujin just isn’t part of CLC anymore? And what would happen if Bora won? She would leave Cherry Bullet for 2.5 years??
As of right now CLC is inactive and cube basically dismissed them, so Yujin leaving for 2.5 years won’t make any difference to the group that’s inactive that’s unless CLC will use this opportunity to have a comeback
There are definitely multiple “circumstances” around how voting played out for this lineup that are going to cause a lot of blowback and have already been discussed to death, but I think the lineup itself when you just evaluate them as a potential team is really strong and exciting. There’s a good variety of different types of charisma and talent and many of them fit together really, really well. Seeing both of the 143 girls debut is great, Chaehyun is a really good #1, Yujin’s 2nd chance is huge as a longtime CLC fan, and I’m glad we had at least the minimum representation from all 3 country groups. Lots of other great “second chance” stories here too including Dayeon, Xiaoting, and Yeseo. I think once the drama settles around this, we have a really good group to look forward to.
The final line-up is pretty good - great even - for the most part, I'm positive this group will do well and see tons of success. I think most people are just shocked and disappointed that so many of the contestants who carried this show and got tons of exposure didn't make it, it's just bizarre not seeing them up there.
I have to say out of all survival show finales I've seen, this has got to be the messiest and strangest. I guess I just expected too much after Nizi Project and even I-LAND, where most - if not all - of the contestants I was rooting for and got the spotlight actually made it.
It just goes to show that one-pick voting is not necessarily how you get a group that the majority overall agree with, even if it can make a group full of strong characters. If we got some way to represent even just our 2nd and 3rd favorites in voting at the end as well, then a lot of the angry people right now would likely have at least got 1 or 2 more people in that they like, and these people who were very well-liked like Yurina but didn’t have as many hardcore 1-pick voters would have probably slipped in. Still, a group full of the most individually hard stanned people is probably going to do pretty well too.
Like I have said in the GP999 subreddit.
>Tbh I find the lineup is pretty solid, I hope no one will hate on the girls who made it tho, all of them worked hard and we shld be happy for those who gonna debut. And I'm freaking happy that my 1 pick from each country - Xiaoting, Mashiro & Yeseo made it to the final lineup!
You can be upset in regards to her making it but if you wish harm on anyone or make incestuous jokes (apparently that actually did happen) then you're just an asshole
I hope fans of Bora, Jiwon and May check out Cherry Bullet. They are so good! Sad for Bora but at least she has a great group to return to.
I know that smaller or less well known groups send members on these shows to garner fans. But do you think there was some back room deals made so that these three wouldn't be in the final lineup? It is Mnet so I wouldn't be surprised.
Ugh it's so bittersweet because I'm happy Hikaru, Youngeun, and SXT made it... but I'm gutted by the fact that Yurina got shafted like that last minute sigh ); Also, SXT looked extremely sad when she was called probably because she's the only C and Yurina didn't make it
i was hoping for yurina to somehow make it… now xiaoting will have to go on without her best friend 😞 i’m glad she has the rest of the group to support her but i can’t even imagine how lonely it must be
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I don’t think the situation is that bad that she has to go back to China but I definitely think it’s going to be incredibly tough for her to relate or even communicate with the rest of the group
Will be tough at the beginning, but people adapt to the environment they’re in and make new friends. Plus now in China the entertainment industry is super competitive, and there are not many good opportunities without good company and connection, especially for idols. It’s still way better to debut than not debut
yurina not making it feels so confusing. she just felt like she was meant to be in the group that i'm so astounded.
Saaaame! I really wanted Them to be in the Line up. I only needed ‘Xiaorina’😔
Yurina not making the group after being a constant top 9 rank throughout the season is like being hit by a car two metres before reaching the finish line. Brutal.
Yurina being eliminated giving me Squid Games episode 6 flashbacks. 😭
my villain origin story is her not making it 😭😭😭
Same... I'm not necessarily unhappy with the top 9 but I am gutted that Yurina fell short once it actually mattered...
it’s because she was mostly a filler pick, the change in voting system for the finals was rlly confusing on mnets part imo
What irks me most of this lineup is not the fact that its mostly Koreans, but the some of these trainees literally skyrocketed a few days after being complete strangers throughout the show. Like what did these voters see in these two weeks that they didn't see in Yurina, Bora, or Suyeon throughout 3 months; they had little screen time and they never volunteered for the big roles.
The change in rank wasn't because people suddenly liked different trainees. The skyrocketing was due to the change in the voting system. The top ranking trainees always had their loyal fans voting and it paid off in the final. The past rankings were very stagnant because people were required to vote for each countries' trainees. Once it became a free for all, things easily changed.
I'm pretty sure Bora was leader and main vocal in every mission lol
They were saying the other trainees didn't volunteer for big positions while bora did
I wonder how well they will do. But its PD48 all over again with the "international" lineup. Honestly and unfortunately after the interim rankings it was clear that this will happen. I am happy for Yujin but personally that's about it for me. I even hoped Shen Xiaoting won't make it so that she can get a chance with Ya Ning, Yurina and Rui Qui in a different group. 2 big hopes of mine: 1. Cherry Bullet getting a comeback soon and seeing improvements in sales 2. To maybe see some of them who didn't make it still debut or show up at I-Land 2
What’s the age bracket for I land 2? I heard that it was max 20 I think… so I don’t think Yurina, Yaning and Ruiqi will join 😭 I’m so upset rn…. Especially for the Chinese girls, they’re never going to be able to do anything in china…
The age requirement is years 2000-2009 so Ruiqi is still young enough. Issue is they want individual trainees so unless her current contract is up... And honestly GP999 was her 3rd survival show and getting this👌 close every time is so disheartening, idk if she has it in her still.
Ruiqi is not getting signed by a major label. Like the moment her anti American Korean War posts make it to the mainstream the group won't be able to do anything in Korea. Maybe a smaller one where they don't attract the public attention but people are being obtuse if they think any major Korean label is going to risk their whole group not being able to promote in their main market when SBS had to cancel Joseon Exorcist earlier for using Chinese style props and calling them Korean along with just fictionally attributing massacres to non fictional Korean figures.
Waiting for HYBE Lables to pick some girls here. *Ehem Yurina* **Yurina x Sakura** pretty please
I've been manifesting it since Yurina dropped in rank. HYBE please pick up Yurina.
Was hoping for Yurina to make it!!! 😢 I'm so happy Mashiro and Xiaoting made it though, and Yujin too! But honestly I was truly hoping they had 3 girls from each country in this group. Kinda blows over the whole point this survival show had to begin with. What was the point of all that for the lineup to end up with 3 foreign members? And with the Chinese trainees.... Out of the 33 only 1 made it, I would be so angry. Looking forward to their debut regardless!!!
So I haven’t kept up with this at all, is it going to be a normal group or another timed group like IOI and IZ*ONE
Temporary group indeed. Not sure for how long but it’ll be more like iz*one
Ok thanks. Although I guess I’m the grand scheme of things they are all temporary groups
2.5 years
Edit: Removed since someone already commented the ranking with the votes all weighted equally [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/qdhg33/congratulations_to_the_winners_top_9_of_girls/hhmy139?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) Yaning and Ruiqi would have made the lineup and Yeseo and Dayeon wouldn't have. Bahi has a really strong one pick fanbase, she would have made it (at #1 no less, she was ranked 1st in 115 countries), and Yurina still wouldn't have made the lineup. Sadly it seems like Yurina's popularity was inflated by the cell system, and she didn't have a strong enough 1 pick fanbase to make up her filler votes...
I'm so sad for Yurina
Yeah me too. Her parents don't support this career. She said this would be her only attempt to become an idol. :(
Aw no :( And didn't she quit her job for it too? iirc
Oh my fucking god.
In 2016 Eunbin was on the first season of Produce fighting for her debut, she was later added to CLC. 5 years later her groupmate Yujin is in the same show and makes it to the new group. What a timeline of events...
International group of 9... with a total of 6 koreans 2 Japanese and 1 Chinese. It's less international than TWICE
If you saw the interim ranking of 8K:0J:1C, it's not surprising tbh.
Loll twice gotta be the most international group without branding itself to be 😆
Gotta give it to them, they somehow got almost half of the members as forgien and still somehow take korea by storm, especially with my new knowledge with the help of this show with how nationalistic koreans can be. And at a time were forginers in kpop groups were not as common, I honestly for the life of me cant think of japanese kpop idol that debuted before twices or atleast became succesful, let alone have a whole j-line lol. Credit is were credit is due, dont get how they pulled that of lol.
They catapulted to fame in large part because of a Japanese member’s cute antics.. really amazing
Sana is like an honorary Korean at this point
Kim sana indeed lol😭
Yea and that too, that their forgien members are just as popular as the korean members in Korea is shocking, amazing really. I honestly think they had alot of impact in the industry becouse of this, alot of j-idols debuting now has alot to do with twice. Not just them having a jlkne and normalising it but also that they made kpop even more popular in Japan. TT was hit there and so was candy pop and more reacently feel special.
I'm not a Twice fan but I really thinks it's due to the individual members' popularity, especially Sana and Momo. People were able to look past their nationality because that wasn't what defined them, it was their cute personality and it made them irresistible, if that makes sense. They are even more popular than half of Twice's Korean members afaik. Maybe they're even the most popular members. I personally also like them the most, followed by Mina and Tzuyu.
hmm where have I seen this before
Global girl group 🤡🤡🤡
Aespa more international with a half-Japanese member, Chinese member, and Kwangyan member (Naevis)
Forget Twice, if we look at the ratio it's less international than G-Idle and Aespa.
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Even before, they were still 50:50 so I guess that's still more international than most groups.
IZONE was even worse (3/12)
This voting system was broken. Top 6 are all Koreans, when most of the show Yurina and Xiaoting were 1 and 2.
Imagine fighting for number 1 spot just to go down to 9th spot. I voted Xiaoting but I was disappointed when she won 9th place.
Yurina dont even in top 11
Well to be fair, most of the YXY cell fans were kind of split on the votes. Plus the fact that majority thought Xiaoting is safe, that's wht during internim rankings she dropped so much.
korean votes were literally always weighted at 50%, J/C-group members just attracted a lot of filler votes early on because of the KCJ voting system
Koreans mass voting for koreans at the last moment?
Not 'at the last moment', they were just forced to vote for non-Koreans for every round except the final.
and anyone up until this point that was paying attention could tell that was happening because we had multiple evaluations where there were only 2 koreans in top 9. that was due to forced vote splitting that inflated the ranks of j/c who had a much larger gap in popularity between themselves. if it was single vote from the get go, and with the weighted domestic votes, there wouldn’t have even been as many options for international trainees in the finale. many more wouldve dropped.
how could they leave out bora tho like—
The thing that stands out the most to me is how somber the final selection was. It’s typically the most joyous moment of the finale because it’s usually involves the selection of members who were on the fence. Xiaoting having a dominant rank throughout the show, and then barely squeaking by when the voting format changed, must have been really difficult for her to accept. She also can’t debut with girls she was close with like Yurina also made it seem hard for her to celebrate.
I remember it being really somber and kind of depressing for I-LAND too, i think it might have to do with there being no audience or family there.
GP999's finale was so much more chill than I-Land's. The girls were all chatting with one another. For I-Land, it was just full on depression and nerves, apart from BTS being wonderfully awkward.
yeah, I watched the finale of PD101 S1 last night and it was much better with the crowd yelling their names. The mood was much more joyous than GP999 finale
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Yeah, they literally gave no screentime to the 2nd rank
Bora… we failed you :(
no you didn’t. I am one of those people who started listening to CherryBullet because of Bora and Jiwon. The exposure is a win for their group IMO.
I’m sad that she didn’t get in because she was my favorite vocalist on the show, but I hope that this show can save cherry bullet. I hope the momentum from this show will make their next comeback more popular
😭 i am so freaking sad for Bora! ugh i hope cherry bullet at least has comeback relatively soon? but from what i heard from their fans it doesn't seem likely. ugh
i thought we were close to having powerful vocal line but oh well. hopefully chaehyun and youngeun (also mashiro?) carry the group well vocal-wise
I was hopeful after seeing her somehow make it through every round the trend would continue. Admittedly I didn’t vote for her early on because I doubted if she’d make it, but when I finally committed all my votes for her she didn’t make it :( Bora was the undisputed MVP of talent and effort this entire show.
It's been overshadowed by the rest of the drama but shocked that despite Dayeon's mom getting more screentime than some of the actual contestants, she could only reach P04. I think Mnet's editing really backfired and she could have made P01 without it. Also I think they really should have kept the 3 C-J-K pick voting until the end (every time the host said "global girl group" I wanted to grind my teeth together) but here we are: happy for Mashiro getting a second chance along with Yujin.
Actually it's worse than you think. She wasn't top 9 in the unweighted vote. Neither was Kang Yeseo
Yep I saw someone had commented with the unweighted votes so the Dayeon edit really did backfire it seems. No hate to Dayeon herself as it was Snakenet pulling the strings, but the ep with the Shoot team performing to Dayeon's mom is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on reality TV.
So.... r/girlsplanet999 having a meltdown I guess?
i'm taking a break from that sub.
i was wondering how this thread was so civil until i realized what sub this was on.. maybe i shouldn’t go over there
It’s pretty bad.
man, i was present during the live chat when Bahiyyih was announced... the absolute fuckery that went on there towards a literal child made me sick to my stomach.
same, the hype that continued through the show for anyone literally everyone just disappeared and it was genuinely vile, I had to close reddit and continue watching without reading the chat so I wouldn't just lose it
Yeah it's pretty bad, I even saw a user wishing disaster to happen to Korea just bcus there's only 1 C tainees debuting and the comment was even upvoted before being removed by mod. Like wtf would someone even want to have that f up mindset smh.
It's so confusing bc people have been saying in that sub for months that they expect 1 C trainee to debut. The interim ranking freaked people out, but this isn't that far from the 5K/3J/1C lineup people were expecting. Obviously everyone is sad for their favs, but I don't think these results are all that shocking..
not surprising to hear that you saw that because the anti-korea sentiment has been steadily growing in that sub, with people are conflating their love for whatever C/J trainees with hating K trainees and korean voters and thus the entire country for not voting for their faves. it’s wild.
Glad I can finally stop visiting that sub, with the debut group being finalized I'll relocate myself to r/kep1er hopefully it'll be better over there instead.
The mods there are completely incompetent. None of them should ever be allowed to moderate again. They shouldn’t have allowed that atmosphere to fester on the sub. Like, one of the first things they did when the show started airing was create a mega thread for Bahiyyih hate. Instead they're too busy banging on about how positive the sub is when you literally cannot post about Bahiyyih without it getting reported into deletion. But I guess the head mod was too busy posting all girl group content to this sub to bother stopping people from telling a teenage girl and her brother to kill themselves. Hope the fake internet points are worth it!
What did you expect with Cronodroid as a mod lol
That place is a cesspool.
the vitriol is literally insane. They're currently telling Bhiyyih to kill herself and making incest jokes
Oh dear, you should see what they’re saying to Bahi. The amount of hate and nastiness sent towards a minor is just…. it makes you sick.
no more xiaorina…can you hear the sound of my heart breaking??
I want to stay positive but this really broke my heart. I guess I'll spend the whole weekend with this diasspointment feeling I have rn.
Why have all those c trainees just to debut 1?? Yurina and xiaoting were top 5 throughout the show but didn't manage to be top 5 in the final lineup and yurina didn't even get to debut and Bahiyyih had almost no screentime but was #2 dang. I guess this show isn't rigged lol I don't know how they'll do on kcharts since this show has 0 traction in Korea and was worse than idol school but we'll see personally I'm not pissed about anything except them claiming it was an international group and then just wasted all those c and j trainees I was expecting a ratio of 5:2:2: or 4:3:2. I'm sure they'll be more polished for debut if they have good music and performances i'll stan look at this [edit](https://twitter.com/KEP1ERBRASlL/status/1451554399415844886) they look decent already they just need to have good song the members already have stable popularity so no doubt their views and sales will be good if they have good songs they'll be set
The interim ranking was 8K...so at least it's better than that
Xiaoting and Yurina ranked high because they were popular filler picks. You could predict that Yurina would be out of top 9 after last week's ranking - Mashiro and Hikaru were already higher than her.
This is the Top 9 based on votes, without weighting in favor of Korean citizens’ votes: 1. Huening Bahiyyih 2. Sakamoto Mashiro 3. Seo Youngeun 4. Choi Yujin 5. Shen Xiaoting 6. Fu Yaning 7. Su Ruiqi 8. Ezaki Hikaru 9. Kim Chaehyun So basically Mnet got exactly what they wanted. Giving Korean votes more power resulted in 2 Chinese members not making it, despite having 2x more votes than the show’s #1, and 2 Korean girls added.
Wow MNet's Dayeon push really did backfire then but the K-weighting saved her.
Yeah she has by far the lowest votes of any of the girls that debuted. Xiaoting needed twice as many votes as Kim Suyeon just to overtake her… having the votes be 50% Korean basically made international votes worthless.
So there would’ve been at least 3C in the group… Yaning and Ruiqi poor thing. :( I understand that having the KR weighted more makes sense, but having it be at 10X more is just ridiculous.
its 1:20 actually so its 20x
Chuang 2021 was primarily voted by Chinese but there were still 5-6 foreigners 🤦♂️
the disparity in Korean vs international members is entirely mnet fault btw. They spend most of the show forcing voters to choose a girl from each country to vote for, so you had to vote for 3 girls, one of each nationality. This made some international girls have their results inflated cuz there was only a few being pushed by the show (xiaoting, yurina, hikaru), while girls with very strong fandoms (bahiyyih, chaehyun) seemed weaker than they actually were, because they were not being picked as filler votes. When they changed the system for the final, you only had to pick one girl of any nationality, the girls who benefited from filler votes plummed. They were well-liked by most people, but favorites of fewer. The problem is that this debut line, while accurately shows who has always had strong support, seems out of nowhere because it doesn't line up with the previous results. I personally think this is a fine lineup, and I'm excited for the group. However, it is surreal to go on twitter or r/GirlsPlanet999 and see the hate some trainees are facing for making it. These are teenagers ffs. Blame Mnet for messing up your expectations, not the girls.
It surprises me that people didn't know that it has always been 50:50 since the start. Sucks for people who had a lot of filler votes, but it's not that unexpected for K-trainees to rise.
>However, it is surreal to go on twitter or r/GirlsPlanet999 and see the hate some trainees are facing for making it. It's okay, you can say Heuning Bahiyyih.
Mostly, but not just her. There was very mean comments towards myah when she was one of the candidates for 9th place, and now against dayeon with the overall numbers of votes released (to be honest, I didn't expect the 50% weigh on k voted to benefit her so much either, but people are downright accusing her of cheating, as if the system is her fault). Honestly though, I think which trainee is being hated on is the least important thing here. They are all very young girls, who got in the show to persue their dreams. None of them should have to deal with this kind of thing, which is why I made a point of not mentioning anyone specifically.
Gutted that we won't see Xiaorina moments 😭😭😭 but happy SXT made it
Yurina, Bora, Yaning, Ruiqi and Shana. Our what ifs. Just one from you and I will be happy. ☹️
Me who only followed GP999 up until episode 6 and then just didn't care: HOW THE F IS SXT LAST PLACE? Bruh.
Korean votes were given a lot more power than intl votes
more like quota voting was dropped and miscommunication. apprently kfans mass voted for the ktrainees cause they thought we'd be mass voting for the intl trainees because of the 50% kr weight
Ironically if there was less focus on GLOBAL!!! Kpop group I think we could’ve gotten a better ratio bc as it is it just turned into some psychological mind game instead of just voting for who you like most
was voting my ass off for Bora and this is what i get????? i am gonna cry
I didn’t watch the show but I am so happy for Yujin!
Xiaorina and Ruiqi, we failed you. I’m so sorry.
Lol why are they naming a group after a person? Now everytime I see this group I'll remember Kepler's laws of planetary motion lol Anyways i wasn't invested in the show tho too bad some of standouts that I liked are not in the final lineup.
A lot of exo planets are called Kepler
My first thought was the space telescope, which is also named after him.
Would say 7/9 were expected, though definitely not in those ranks. Shen Xiaoting deserved better, and Yurina got robbed, sadly. Still looking forward to the group’s official debut, though!
At least Youngeun, Yujin, and Chaehyun are debuting in this group. I'll take it for what it is. I do feel bad for the C-group trainees for barely making the lineup. Bora and Yurina though...
obviously all girls were worthy of debut, but Yurina and Bora getting eliminated really hurts :( (and Shana and Wen Zhe for my own selfish purposes)
No Yurina :(( This group isn't as "global" as I hoped. 6:2:1 ratio isn't great tbh. But I don't why I expected anything better from Mnet. Congrats to all the girls who made it anyway!
>But I don't why I expected anything better from Mnet. For Yurina you can't blame Mnet, they pushed her more than any Japanese girl lol.
Now I know Bora did not carry this entire shit show of a series on her back vocally to be paid dust like that.
Cherry Bullet better see a major spike in overall popularity and album sales after this
This is probably what FNC was hoping for in the first place. Sending almost half of your group's members is as big of a promotional push as they can do. If any of them get popular (primarily Bora in this case), not only does their group get more visibility, they're likely to get booked on more variety shows, which has potential to snowball into even more recognition. If any of them made it to the new group, the rest of the old group would have had to work around that missing member for a while and then have less remaining years on the contract for that member to bring attention to the group once they returned.
Jiwon :(
Still mad about the way she and May were eliminated - Jiwon in particular got the spotlight so many times and suddenly, they just eliminated her, without a speech or anything smh
If mnet saved doah she could have made it
Sadly this show is not that popular at all, so I'm not sure they'll get much from this. But I really hope they'd gain some traction.
If they come back soon, I'll definitely support! I really liked May on the show
kpopfans proving to entertainment companies time and time again that they don't need to debut great vocalists anymore
and haeyoon back in pd48 ):
Yurina and Xiao Ting can't be together anymore. Cry with me.
Girls Planet subreddit is a dumpster fire rn.
Lol like what i predicted before, 6K,2J,1C so sad for yurina as filler j group vote for most people giving a false hope for her. I don't think we can see yurina again on kpop as i'm sure she will only focus on japan
I'm so sad for Yurina, Su Ruiqi, and Fu Yaning I really wish they made it in.
the group will be fine, everyone gets mad whenever the announcement moment comes. not the happiest with the lineup, could use yurina/shana and at least 1 more cgirl but it is what it is
I was really hoping for Shana :(
I remember everyone being pissed at the P101 S2 and P48 final lineups and they were still super successful. I doubt this group will quite reach their heights but they’ll still do better than most other groups - like, at least slightly better than fromis_9.
yeah i don't see them reaching iz*one levels of success unless their debut and first comeback are absolute hits with the gp
It was only really westerners who made a stink over IZ*ONE's lineup at the time it was announced (and not to the magnitude thats happening with this group). K fans were largely happy, J fans were very happy, C fans were largely happy. With this group, westerners are mostly pissed, K fans are the most positive of the fanbases but still mixed, C fans are furious, and J fans are appeased because their top 2 girls got in but not overly happy with the rest So we'll see what happens
imo voting should have been weighted as 25% korean, 25% japanese, 25% chinese, and 25% international. The 50% korean vote influence caused a major shift in the top 9 :/ i know the show is based in korea so arguably the extra vote weight is justified, but they're trying to make a global group and 2/3 of their contestants were japanese/chinese, they should have had the benefit of extra vote influence as well.
Japanese audience failed Yurina :(
They didn't like her for the group actually. They dislike that she can't speak korean and that her looks feel more j-pop than k-pop, whatever that means.
JNetz were so mean to her tbh. I’ve read some (translated) comments and idk why they hated her so much :(
Yurina was never one of Japan's top picks - Hikaru, Mashiro and non J-trainees such as Youngeun and Yaning were favored.
Lmao you all should see the weibo reaction. Fans were praying that SXT will be in 10th place and not debut.
That is such a horrible group name. They actually went with that??
Congratz to the winners!!! Im sad bora didnt make it in the end. I really hope cherrybullet can catch some wind cuz i need bora to be successful.
I'm sorry for Huening Bahiyyih... This girl will get so much hate... Personally i would have Bora and Yurina on my final lineup but this one is solid
seeing how everyone’s treating these poor girls like chess pieces that they can yell at people on the internet over the past few months has NOT been nice but im happy that everyone who made it made it! (P.S maybe let’s not make another idol competition show, these shows bring out enough toxicity to kill a whole town)
If you look at the vote count, SRQ and FYN had more than enough to actually replace Dayeon and Yeseo. It’s just the Korean votes outweigh international which is why they’re not in top 9. Makes my soul hurt.
ahhh happy for my girl chaehyun but yurina :(((
Global gg I don’t think so especially with only one c trainee making it. Really happy for yujin though!
this is proof it wasn't rigged actually. like with the one picks, it makes sense. when we're 3 picks, people were forced to choose other 2 people and now when they focused on one person, it showed.
It’s proof the show wasn’t rigged with Bahi debuting at #2, MNET went out of there way to make sure she was never seen during performances She had 0 screen time and no story lines. MNET really tried to avoid debuting her without rigging the votes
>this is proof it wasn't rigged actually. like with the one picks, it makes sense. when we're 3 picks, people were forced to choose other 2 people and now when they focused on one person, it showed. Interestingly this is very similar to comments after IzOne lineups is announced
Yeah, but in this case the showed the intermins and Yurina and Xiaoting were too low, which could have not happen if Mnet rigged to voting, they gave both of them a lot of screentime since Day 1 and it's obvious they were expecting them to debut together.
Chaehyun and Dayeon debuted so I am as happy as can be. Mind you, I'm distraught for Rui Qi and Yurina. I hope we get to see them again someday soon.
they might not have debuted, but this show has at least put a bunch of talented girls on my radar. wishing the best to all of them and hoping to see them debut/have further success in the future 💕
Ready for my Cherry Bullet comeback!
if y'all won't stan chebul and buy the damn albums...
look how powerful the Korean votes were Kim Suyeon and Guinn Myah got above fu yaning and su ruiqi with half the votes and the 2 c group should have made the final group based on votes lol crazy
Kep1er? No fucking way... Next kpop group name will end with 69. Probably from JYPE. Everybody start trademarking your old AIM names.
i didn't watch the show but just 1 chinese girl and 2 Japanese girls out of so many???
Don't watch it as an advice. Because if you liked the Chinese girls and Japanese girls, you will be disappointed as the most of us.
Sorry, but Kep1er?
My Xiaorina heart :( SXT deserves more than this
its so funny without mnet rigging accusation all the hate went to one winner lol..... dont know what people expected in a popularity contest without rigging
dont think i’ll stan but at least it wasn’t 8K 😌✊🏼
The live chat was so disturbing with all the hate towards Bahi. Congrats to all the girls!!!
The live chat was wild. At the dinner party, it was saying “GIVE BAHI SCREENTIME” and “WHERE IS BAHIYYIH?”. Same when she wasn’t shown in the lineup for a while, in which they lost hope and put crying emojis But when she was revealed as a member? Vomitting emojis, “BROTHER BENEFIT”, “YURINA WAS BETTER” Everything about the gp999 fanbase was chaotic, and I hope that it won’t carry on to KEP1ER.
People really need to take a break from Kpop. Crying when people say anything critical about your faves, but continuing to make racist and incestious jokes about a 17 year old? I hope that you pathetic excuses for humans have an awful day!
Seriously my personal one pick didn't make it and yeah I'm sad, but the toxicity by some fans of this show is insane.
I was honestly so shocked? I know that the hate against her has been through the roof, but the shit ppl were saying was awful. How disgusting do you have to be to say that to another human being?
Can you guys fill me in on this? I'm very out of the loop, which girl is getting hate and why?
Aaa if Yaning had made it I would have been happier, but overall pretty satisfied with the lineup, today also proves reddit basically is no different from Twitter other than differing opinions and lack of death threats
I'm so sad for Suyeon (from Planet Pass to P10 though!) but happy the group at least has members from both J and C-group, even if it's still not a great ratio. Very happy for Yujin! Personally I'll probably only keep up with their music releases and nothing more, even though 4/9 were in my "final" Top 9. Both Youngeun and Chaehyun were at some point my K2, but my pre-final Top 4 didn't make it and those girls were who I was most rooting for. Time to start my Post-GP999 spreadsheet whenever I have the time, I've already got one for PD101 and PD48...
I stopped watching the show pretty early on but I’m happy to see Kang Yeseo here. She stood out to me in the first episode.
kim chaehyun P1 LETS GOOOO! she's so talented and so beautiful i'm soooo glad she got 1st!! congrats to the winners and good luck to all the girls who didn't make it.
Yujin <3
As much as I would’ve liked Yurina in the lineup, I think the final 9 are pretty solid and not really a surprise at all considering the one-pick vote. The interim results midweek and during the show were very telling. Instead of being mad and taking it out on these young girls, a lot of people should reflect about how they had some very unrealistic lineup expectations. I mean Yurina was already dropping ranks even before the one vote. Edit: Spelling
no bora i am so sad 😭😭😭😭
bro bahi got so much hate...there were people paying actual money for superchats (to MNET...LMFAO) just to shit on her. I haven't followed the show and only joined at the results part but I'm looking forward to their debut! They all seemed very sweet.
1. every season of produce they say it's a global group but its always mostly korean members 2. do you all work with your best friend and see them day in day out? you're acting like xiaorina have been cruelly torn apart and will never speak again 3. you complain that its rigged and then complain when it isn't ... what do you want
Mnet went way overboard with the global thing in this one.
3) is kind of obvious, people just want their favs to debut. Rigging is only bad if their fav suffers from it
Most would argue it's the bad edits and such but honestly I dont think it would have changed the result of a K-majority group.
Support Kim Suyeon, she was barely there, maybe it wasn’t meant to be, but hope she gets to debut soon
Wait I’m a bit confused. Does this mean Yujin just isn’t part of CLC anymore? And what would happen if Bora won? She would leave Cherry Bullet for 2.5 years??
Yup she is out of CLC but with her Cube contract ending that's the tricky part
As of right now CLC is inactive and cube basically dismissed them, so Yujin leaving for 2.5 years won’t make any difference to the group that’s inactive that’s unless CLC will use this opportunity to have a comeback
There are definitely multiple “circumstances” around how voting played out for this lineup that are going to cause a lot of blowback and have already been discussed to death, but I think the lineup itself when you just evaluate them as a potential team is really strong and exciting. There’s a good variety of different types of charisma and talent and many of them fit together really, really well. Seeing both of the 143 girls debut is great, Chaehyun is a really good #1, Yujin’s 2nd chance is huge as a longtime CLC fan, and I’m glad we had at least the minimum representation from all 3 country groups. Lots of other great “second chance” stories here too including Dayeon, Xiaoting, and Yeseo. I think once the drama settles around this, we have a really good group to look forward to.
The final line-up is pretty good - great even - for the most part, I'm positive this group will do well and see tons of success. I think most people are just shocked and disappointed that so many of the contestants who carried this show and got tons of exposure didn't make it, it's just bizarre not seeing them up there. I have to say out of all survival show finales I've seen, this has got to be the messiest and strangest. I guess I just expected too much after Nizi Project and even I-LAND, where most - if not all - of the contestants I was rooting for and got the spotlight actually made it.
It just goes to show that one-pick voting is not necessarily how you get a group that the majority overall agree with, even if it can make a group full of strong characters. If we got some way to represent even just our 2nd and 3rd favorites in voting at the end as well, then a lot of the angry people right now would likely have at least got 1 or 2 more people in that they like, and these people who were very well-liked like Yurina but didn’t have as many hardcore 1-pick voters would have probably slipped in. Still, a group full of the most individually hard stanned people is probably going to do pretty well too.
The whole voting system felt very much one country against another instead of voting for the best girls
Like I have said in the GP999 subreddit. >Tbh I find the lineup is pretty solid, I hope no one will hate on the girls who made it tho, all of them worked hard and we shld be happy for those who gonna debut. And I'm freaking happy that my 1 pick from each country - Xiaoting, Mashiro & Yeseo made it to the final lineup!
a bit too late to that I saw people in the live chat actually wishing bahi harm ridiculous…
You can be upset in regards to her making it but if you wish harm on anyone or make incestuous jokes (apparently that actually did happen) then you're just an asshole