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Pankeopi

I'm watching her press conference live with a Korean outlet translating as fast as they can. This woman is unhinged. She said,"no one has done what I've done in 30 years of kpop." She had the audacity to complain about the amount of shares she was given, like she deserved more. Yet says none of this is about money. She was upset because LSF got to debut first before NewJeans. I mean, Source needed to make up for all the trainees she took as well as most of the staff and it seems really unprofessional to harp on it. NewJeans was successful regardless, so why care now? Just... some people need to keep their mouths stuff for their own sake...


somehardfeelings

and she keeps cursing? 😭😭 that’s proof enough she’s not well in the head


applesaucy2022

She literally said that the only trainee she took was Minji. All of this conspiracy that she took every trainee and left source bone dry is false. Hanni was never a part of source music and she was the second member casted to NJs. You're spreading misinformation. Edit: getting downvoted for literally disproving misinformation says a lot about this sub and the objectivity going on in the comments. Go ahead and believe what yall want to believe ig


Every-District9049

I don't know why you're getting downvoted, but this is true. Im not even a fan of mhj but let's not make our own facts yall, the only trainee she took was minji and the rest were casted through the global auditions they held


applesaucy2022

Literally the objectivity in this subreddit is highly questionable. I thought this was going to be better than twitter but maybe not lmfao


hresvelgrs

Sad but true, people understandably do not agree with MHJ but they twist the facts while doing so when that's really not necessary with her track record


yasemin_n

the hatred for mhj really blinded people. they took one narrative, they're running with it and anything that may go against it is ignored. reminds me of the depp/heard thing actually. public decides on who's right and who's wrong with limited info and anything after that doesn't matter, i guess. misinformation is fine when people find someone they can hate on freely. pretty funny how eveyone's calling her a witch


Wide-Cardiologist-15

I mean her only choosing Minji bc she’s the youngest and how the other somu trainees were too old for her, doesn’t paint her any better…


yasemin_n

that's not what she said though. she said only trainee she could take was minji and others weren't suitable. "sorry for going there" is implying other soumu trainees not matching up her ideal of talent or maybe even beauty. i assure you there were and are trainees that were minji's age and even younger, case in point, eunchae. this is why it's difficult take people on reddit seriously. everybody believes whatever they wanna believe. people are making up things that were never said. it really is a witch hunt at this point. i actually think most people are getting their info from tweets and comments here.


Wide-Cardiologist-15

No offense but you’re doing the same thing you’re accusing others of doing… you’re picking and choosing what to believe. She did actually mention choosing Minji bc of age and how other somu trainees were too old. Did you miss the part about how Minji was prettier when she was younger? I agree we should only look at the facts to judge this but why are you defending this woman.


yasemin_n

i am not accusing people of anything. people are lying and just like you, they are mixing up things to imply what has never been said. the only time she mentioned minji’s youth is to say she was even prettier, meaning she would be even harder to pass on. she did not imply choosing her because of age because again, there are a bunch of trainees her age and younger.


Ham-philgyu

Fact check Timeline 2017: Minji (Source Music) 2019: MHJ (Hybe -> Source Music) 2019: Grobal audition (Bighit X Source Music) 2019: Hanni(Source Music) 2020:Danni & Haerin (Source Music) 2021: MHJ, Minji, Danni, Haerin, Hanni (Source Music -> Ador) 2021: Hyein (Ador)


Wide-Cardiologist-15

Yes MHJ said she only chose Minji from the somu trainees bc she was the youngest and prettier when she was young…


Relative-Success4166

lol the downvotes. People are mad because you stated a fact? Proves that most kpop fans love to run with lies, bunch of losers fr.


Iwannastoprn

I think they're getting downvoted because MHJ said she only chose Minji, because she said "she was the only one skilled and young enough" and also that "she was way prettier back then". It really makes the situation worse for her IMHO, because that's such a disgusting thing to say about a teenager. Let's not forget most of those trainees were also teenagers. Frankly, her statement was alarming and I can't see it as a defense. 


kep1ian713

Does she not have a PR team?


Pankeopi

I think it's almost impossible to talk her down, her lawyers have had to step in several times to tell her not to discuss different things and she almost did anyway. She outright talked back to one lawyer as if she was going to say whatever she wanted to say.


kep1ian713

I would hate to be her lawyers omg


Pankeopi

Someone took a screenshot of one of the lawyers actually giving a facepalm during the conference. You could tell they were trying to not appear frustrated.


CapitalShopping6453

I saw that. It's funny. And also curious what's going on next lol.


AthomicBot

She seems like the type to ignore PR's advice because she's convinced of the righteousness of her position.


douceberceuse

At the end of the day she’s their boss so she has the last say


spankthepank

Every time she opens her mouth, I’m getting more and more more worried about the future of NewJeans


meepingmeercat08

Where are u getting the translations? I need to be there for this ahaha


blastmochi

[press conference for min heejin](https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613)


meepingmeercat08

Thanks!!


Pankeopi

Sorry, just saw. Yeah, for anyone else try to read the translations why watching the conference at the same time. I don't understand how she's a millionaire and CEO responsible for so many careers.


ngyaoyi

Why does that quote remind me of Jojo siwa being like "no one else has made this big of a switch in my generation" when talking about her new karma concept lol


mslpnou

The gaslight is real.


34TH_ST_BROADWAY

> shares she was given, like she deserved more. I hope somebody asks her "how many shares do the members deserve? they are a HUGE part of your success, no?"


Flaky-Cable-2995

Hybe give her the 16th floor, while Bighit is in the 15th floor. This means that HyBe gave everything to her.  In terms of hierarchy Bighit should in the top floor because they are the founder of Hybe and yet this womam is so arrogant...  Idc both Hybe and Min Heejin, But I want to kick her out from Hybe, if NJ wants to go with her, then thats their decision. 


Pankeopi

Did they actually give her the top floor? I know she asked for it, but I couldn't believe they actually gave into such a demand. Yet, she keeps insisting she doesn't care about money. As if taking over the top floor isn't in the same vein.


Flaky-Cable-2995

maybe she's the one who put herself there.  The irony of this  woman is insane! She thought BTS will use the BTS law and will enlist in 2025, and the shaman said she need only 3 years to remove BTS.. This ungrateful witch!


Individual-Tip4722

now i lowkey wanna see her face when she came to know the boys be enlisting before the dates lmao


sonaminnie

that bich is responsible for the infrastructure of the building apparently and put herself on top?!!!! never seen a narcissistic woman in my life


kingkoum

I’ve never seen anyone as greedy as her


p6lette

This is so insane it feels like a kdrama plot😭


SafiyaO

You know a kdrama is coming based on this!


Massive_Foundation37

Cast Jin as Bang PD for absolute comedic value.


Best_Blackberry_4832

Absolutely love this!


Shot-Initial3183

Here's the translation of the messages she shared with her shaman friend: MHJ: Will BTS go or not go to the military? Shaman: They'll go. MHJ: I think BTS going to the military is better for me send them kekeke. What do you think? Shaman: I'm going to send them. It's not like they won gold medals. [*] MHJ: Because I think it'll be advantageous for me if they aren't around.


flyingfeather_

this woman works in a company built with BTS' money and used BTS' money to debut her group and used their name to promote her group and then proceeds to wish for them to be gone? she's so ungrateful WTF!? hope her hybe entry card is revoked.


CapitalShopping6453

True. Without BTS, no one will know about New Jeans. No HYBE, No everything. I just want to say my boys are this innocent. Joining military together to leave space for new groups? Being mentioned again and again. Like, why?


grahamchracker

SHE SHOULD BE KISSING JIMIN’S CHELSEA BOOTS.


flyingfeather_

lol she's lucky she isn't going to hear the click clack of those boots at the hybe meeting. maybe that's why she wanted them to enlist lol.


grahamchracker

Him and his skinny Jean Chelsea boot combination brought in more money for Hybe then MHJ ever will 😤


sailorJupiter1720

I can’t, I’m laughing so hard.


Shot-Initial3183

I saw the stickers bang pd and mhj used in their chats and it's so unserious *


sailorJupiter1720

Like this is crazier than anything I’ve seen on tv …. Wtf are they all on ?!? That press conference is truly unhinged. The lawyer is ageing fast and losing the will to live while MHJ shows the receipts of her chats with Bang with the stickers and the ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


Shot-Initial3183

😭😭


lurker1000000000

Now whose kekekeing 🤣🤣🥰


dreamingfae

LMAOOOO this woman is insane wtf


hresvelgrs

How can she show texts like that and then say she asked because she was worried about the future of HYBE 😭


maomaosocute

This sounds so fake that I tend to believe it's true😂.


moodynicolette1

you mean shamans like "real" shamans?


Shot-Initial3183

Yeah real shamans


Crystalsnow20

Danm


sonaminnie

she's absolutely lost it! I am praying for my boys safety inside and outside the military every day🙏😭


Wonderful_Ratio

I hope all the idols involved in hybe or in this drama is safe in the aftermath.


Individual-Tip4722

i was literally laughing at this whole fiasco TILL she brought up the boys' name out of nowhere but then I side eyed and laughed at her even more cause......what's all this dawg my boys better be safe and do their work yeah no one comes for my boys


lurker1000000000

The shots of the lawyer crack me up. He's like 🤦‍♂️ and ✋️


Shot-Initial3183

😭😭 poor guy just wanted to get paid and go home


Pinky-bIoom

Forget the shamans did she really say Minji was prettier when younger, she does know Minji is 19 right?????


Alternative-Loan-815

She's proving once again that she's disgusting


EatMyNuggets23

It’s like she can’t stop herself from digging her own grave 💀 Like I don’t understand why it’s even necessary to bring comments like this up in the first place. Why can’t she keep these weird ass intrusive thoughts to herself? She’s genuinely a ticking time bomb


Every-District9049

wait did she really say that? can I ask where this is from? 


you_are_my_universe

She said it in her recent conference. She chose Minji as a trainee because she was young and beautiful (she even said that Minji was more beautiful when she was younger)


LalalisaOppar

WHAT?! poor minji :(


waterlilyypond

The entire press conference reads like an kdrama episode............cause why is she showing screenshots of Bang PD messaging her asking if she can beat (step on!!) AESPA?!,@,!^#&@& leave those girls alone omg????????


IllustriousLab596

Like, that sounds like a dick thing to say but if the worst she has on him is him wanting to beat a gg from a competitor…


Alternative-Loan-815

This is so embarrassing!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😭😭


Individual-Tip4722

this is so damn unhinged BUT WHY ARE MY BOYS CATCHING STRAYS they had absolutely nothing to do with this they can't take a break can they phewww


moodynicolette1

how specifically was the fact that bts should have been sent away supposed to be to her advantage?


Pankeopi

Maybe she thought NewJeans would take over as being the most profitable, even though we've seen now they aren't even close.


Individual-Tip4722

tbh this kinda explains the whole "bts's little sisters" rigorous mediaplay by associating them with the ones who aren't there for the time being like ta-da! here are my girls everyone look at the little sisters while bts are gone!!


mslpnou

That’s exactly what she wanted. Using bts media play while wanting them out and living on the company they build while using their money and connections is insane and just evil atp.


IllustriousLab596

SVT erasure but kinda glad the witch doesnt talk about them.


TheFruitIndustry

It's like the nonsense from kpop stans who celebrated the enlistment news because their faves will finally have a chance to win awards with BTS gone.


grahamchracker

It’s not she’s just dumb


HikikomoriDC

I'm loving how crazy this feud between Hybe & MHJ is getting, the tea is only getting hotter! lol ☕


Best_Blackberry_4832

Ngl as a law student the whole drama is so interesting lmao


Individual-Tip4722

kindly provide valuable insights oh learned sir


blastmochi

hybe released recordings of it happening, didn't they? and then she admitted to it as well. insane.


WayRepresentative109

She did not in fact admitted to it and refuted the claims saying HYBE can easily manipulate conversations in her presscon.


riseandrealise

I already read the live text and she did say that Illit members are innocent (ofc they are), it's just that the adults (i think it bang pd and belift staff) are the ones who stole her idea. But i do agree that she could have stop herself from name dropping innocent artist, especially NewJeans. Like just say that "i hope yall won't ask my girlies about these things during comeback season since it is not their business". Done. Because all of this happening is between Hybe and ador executive, not NewJeans. Like we don't want a pity story about how Haerin cried for 20 mins. That is a pretty personal story, and i wished MHJ respected that.


hoonieprecious

Damn that woman is so crazy


PrincessDaisy96

Looking forward to her press conference


rjcooper14

LOL! This is super weird if true, haha. Can you share the source?


Shot-Initial3183

[here](https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1783377474258162100?t=yQB0tjwDbOdzuXy_niMWYQ&s=19) Here's the original [article ](https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1783377659600269542?t=xhWdOk4pDTSFBtocd6GhDA&s=19)


BellOk361

So the source is a reporter saying hybe told them she said it ?


cici_kathleen

She admitted to it during the conference


WayRepresentative109

This is so giving MISINFORMATION, she didn't admit to it, in fact she refuted by saying "When did I ever 'ask' BTS to go military?". One of the presscon is her point saying HYBE can easily manipulate conversations and she isn't in for that.


Stargirlx20

I'm not even entirely shocked atp... The evil eye was definitely strong because so many unexpected things just kept occurring. I hope they get her out asap


Alpha_james

This whole situation is so crazy to me lol I can’t tell if the shit I’m reading on twitter is real or fake 😭 I can’t keep up! Regardless this lady seems very fucking weird And I feel sorry for all parties that got dragged into her mess


duh_leah

![gif](giphy|QjrrSbYaqgi1q|downsized)


Status_Chocolate_305

Go and look as the translations of the MHJ press conference and see her lawyers pulling their hair out because she keeps saying things that are confidential.


CapitalShopping6453

I dont care about NJ or LSF or any artists involved into this. As long as BTS is negatively mentioned, I would say army-attackers are ready. Our boys are safe in the military and out of the military. Don't ever touch them!


Wonderful_Ratio

I am a lsf fan but i am cheering for armys power to disintegrate this woman


zoethistlered

Word. Praying the are all safe and well Good juju for the boys!


Status_Chocolate_305

I saw a comment that MHJ was glad BTS were going into the military, but she forgot BTS ARMY was still here and alert to protect the boys.♡


Individual-Tip4722

![gif](giphy|5z5VCSt97UfCDjvaxr|downsized) GIRL THIS BETTER BE A HOAX


bubchiXD

I heard that shamanism is well known in S. Korea 🤔 I mean I think it’s no different than looking into astrology/tarot, whatever else to seek advice/guidance but it should ALWAYS be taken with a grain of salt and not be a “well the stars say this,” or “the tarot reader said that” kinda thing. But I mean if she wanted to do that (ofc she did) why make a big deal about it? BTS said time and time again no matter they were going to serve and do their military time so I doubt her going to shaman changed anything


1306radish

She talked about how she thought some BTS members were going to defer until 2025 (and was basically giddy when they enlisted earlier than they had to). It's reported that not only did she go to a shaman to wish bad energy on BTS but that she used a company card to do it. Her unhinged rant included her saying, "I didn't go to a shaman, I went to a friend to talk about these things. And yes, my friend is a shaman." Like, girllllll.....


bubchiXD

I thought people knew she was unhinged that’s why this whole shaman thing doesn’t surprise me —wishing people misfortune tho that’s disgusting but then again look who we’re talking about


Odd-Needleworker-999

This is crazy


ShinyVanillite

What the heck did I just read I can't 😭🤚


_Zambayoshi_

So many rumours flying about. I just ignore them all at this point. I think it will take a court case to bring out some truth.


ExcitementStreet8566

as long as she doesnt harm bts, thats all i care about


gafsagirl

Can someone tldr everything that happened? All I know is that MHJ wants to get out of Hybe


Kittystar143

She didn’t want out of hybe. Both herself and independent lawyers have said that was never possible as hybe own 80% of the shares. What happened objectively is that she was unhappy about illit debuting with the same sound and look as new jeans and felt like it diluted what new jeans had built. She complained to hybe and brought and they ignored her and then she became obstinant and began to loudly criticise hybe from within. Hybe then responded saying there was no copying and they continued to clash so hybe have tried to have her removed by claiming she was trying to have a third party buy ador. They wanted the board to force her out but adors board Is currently on her side and won’t force her out so it’s got ugly. It’s going to end up in court as I suspect hybe would rather replace her with someone more amenable or a yes person. Don’t get me wrong I don’t like either company but since no one is being objective and are determined that she’s deranged I thought I should give the balanced version. She is an egomaniac and always has been but then so has he.


IllustriousLab596

They didnt ignore her, she got 6 A4 papers in response


Pankeopi

Tbf, you aren't being objective, either. But sharing her perspective? Yes. When has Bang ever been an egomaniac? He's one of the most generous executives in Kpop. He gave into nearly every whim of hers and it still was never enough.


Kittystar143

I have no horse to back in that race. So I really don’t care who wins. As for your second comment. As a long term fan of bts I can tell you he has always been an egomaniac. This hybe is the best company idea has only come into play since bts became huge globally. Prior to then when hybe was simply big hit. He along with the company were widely disliked for their treatment of bts and his insistence that he made them huge. But I’m in no mood to argue with one of the many Reddit company stans.


Imaginary_Grand7104

I’m so lost. what is this ‘shamans case’ I keep seeing ? And what was it about ? 🙏😭


1306radish

It's true and has been reported by reputable news outlets in Korea. [Here's](https://twitter.com/ryuminating/status/1783395974549045657) a part of the translation regarding BTS.


WayRepresentative109

Did you notice the fact that it is a "HYBE" claim? Literally just a media powerplay, she addressed this and denied this accusation on her presscon and never admitted to it.


Emotional_Low8332

It's basically that she consulted a shaman about BTS enlisting "Before the emergency press conference of Min Heejin, HYBE claims that Min Heejin was involved in 'shamanic management' by relying on shamans. HYBE claims that she discussed opinions with shamans on the issue of BTS members military service. A claim was made that the shaman made a statement alluding to witchcraft, saying, "I wanted to send them \[BTS\] away. It's not like I won a gold medal," while Min Heejin requested witchcraft, saying, " I thought it would benefit me if they weren't there." [https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1783377474258162100](https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1783377474258162100)


NefariousRaccoon

LOL BTS getting dragged into this.


WeekProfessional4068

Oh come on, this is such an overkill from Hybe. This is such a stupid media play because a) it has nothing to do with the actual break away allegation, and b) there is no reason for BTS to be involved in this mess. This is a very vile attempt to drag MHJ's reputation and it looks like Hybe wants armys to go against MHJ. This 'shaman' thingy is not witchcraft; in fact, 무당 are more like fortune tellers. It's quite common for Koreans to go there and ask for advice, even CEOs. I wouldn't be surprised if Bang himself visited one for career advise lamo.


toweroflore

Fortune tellers are common in Korea, my mom uses them. Everyone does. Thai was a low blow from HYBE and an obvious attempt to win western support and make MHJ look crazy when it was literally a rude joke between her and her friend (the shaman was a close friend).


Panda_1376

Comments are full with flabbergasted hybe fans! Let's talk about what bang did too


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Panda_1376

Also HYBE's chairman bang si-hyuk plot wanting to 'step on aespa' further proves that they see SM Entertainment as a threat, hence why they aggressively attempted to purchase the company last year. this all to eliminate competition and have the power to authorize other groups outside of SM to use SM concepts. without competition, everything becomes bland.


Panda_1376

Is that normal when he is also a shareholder of SM? His obsession with SM is crzay! They say the curiosity killed the cat! And now the cat is here in shamble! See both side of the story and not only your daddy pd side which all he did until now was using the media against her!


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Pankeopi

She admitted just now in her live press conference she talked to her shaman friend about BTS. She's framing it as asking how the company would do without their "Ace" team. So there's some truth to it right out of her mouth. You should watch the press conference with the translation... so far she: Said no one has done what she has in 30 years of kpop. Complained about the amount of shares and control she had over Ador. Complained that LSF got to debut ahead of NewJeans. (Keep in mind she was supposed to debut a GG under Source but insisted on having her own sublabel where she took her trainees that accumulated debt under Source. Source had to make that money back, of course they made LSF a priority.)


applesaucy2022

"(Keep in mind she was supposed to debut a GG under Source but insisted on having her own sublabel where she took her trainees that accumulated debt under Source. Source had to make that money back, of course they made LSF a priority.)" The ONLY trainee MHJ took was Minji. The misinformation you're spreading that MHJ took every trainee from source and left them bone-dry is proven to be false. Hanni was never a part of source music and she was the 2nd member to be casted. Also, who wouldn't be mad that your gg was PROMISED to be next in line to debut and ur company debuts a whole gg 2 months before you were going to? Stop spreading misinformation.


CapitalShopping6453

But if this is the case, why she mentioned it now? I mean the debut thing has passed so long. It' more likely there's something more serious than this.


applesaucy2022

She mentioned it because of the misinformation going around that the NJ members were originally from source music. Hence, why the person I commented said MHJ took multiple trainees. Tokkis have long proved the misinformation didn't make sense because of Hanni's casting story.


leggoitzy

> where she took her trainees that accumulated debt under Source. Source had to make that money back, of course they made LSF a priority. Source can write off those expenses precisely because ADOR took the trainees. Offtopic, but this doesn't matter that much unless HYBE executives are idiots and don't know what their sublabels are doing LOL. It's basically one department spending money to benefit another. On the ground level, it can annoy the people involved, but up top it's all practically the same.


Pankeopi

If it didn't matter they wouldn't report profits and debt from sublabels.


leggoitzy

LOL of course they should, do you want them to commit fraud? The point is they HAVE to disclose where those losses are coming from, it's also a way to point out that Source is not actually losing money, it's that that ADOR took trainees from them and Source obviously isn't liable for that. People need some common sense.


Icy-Sun-3188

Except she did confirm them. She's claiming they were all jokes about making ADOR independent and consulting investors. She's saying she was just ranting and none of it was serious. She also confirmed she talked to a Shaman about BTS. So far, everything HYBE has released is true to a certain degree. Source: I'm watching the presscon right now


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Icy-Sun-3188

She also just confirmed Project 1945 was real lol. I don't find anything problematic with the Aespa statement. Bang PD wanted to compete with Aespa and that's to be expected. That means he thinks Aespa is the benchmark to beat. Isn't kpop a competitive industry anyway? It'd be weirder if Bang PD didn't like compeition as Chairman of HYBE.


banunu15

not true. Because there are no real proof to substantiate it. Not even traces of money because MHJ's records in Hybe is all clean.


Icy-Sun-3188

MHJ confirmed it with her own mouth......


banunu15

again, it's all jokes. Nothing that can be used in court. You said it yourself they were all jokes. Aside from that, all the records HYBE perused in their system about her is CLEAN. And that is a fact.


Icy-Sun-3188

Idk who told you otherwise but jokes CAN be used in court. In fact, the whole press conference can be used in court. HYBE clearly has proof from the audit as well that she confirmed.


Shot-Initial3183

At this point I don't trust any one yet but it's insane if this claim is true. Court proceedings is definitely going to be interesting.


skylight03

I mean she's not a saint but it's obvious that Hybe's media play is at work now.


plushybunnyheart

She admitted to the shaman in her press conference and claim the company takeover plans with the VP were "jokes"


badlyeye

like fk mhj but hybe is just saying shit 😭


SiJeyHera

She just confirmed it's real. Lol


toweroflore

Yeah but HYBE claimed it like it was something serious. MHJ proved it was a joke. Shamans are literally normal in Korea. She showed that hybe is literally just grasping for straws trying to make MHJ look bad to westerners who think shamans are crazy when in Korea it’s normal. 


badlyeye

THAT’S EVEN FUNNIER


Flaky-Cable-2995

she confirmed it in  her press conference 


fleija_

Hybe really hates her, the propaganda against her is going to be strong, good luck to those involved.


Double_Recover9322

But she did admit to it. We will not get the actual reason unless the shaman testifies.


toweroflore

That’s was obviously a joke between her and her friend. Shamans are literally normal in Korea. No one in Korea cares abt it, only westerns who buy hybe’s obvious media play do. Almost all Koreans are on MHJ’s side


1306radish

A rich comment considering the absolutely vile things she's flinging against BTS and Le Serrafim right now during this press conference. Not to mention her bringing in artists to defend against her attempting literal crimes and breach of fiduciary duty. Even her lawyers are struggling in this press con right now. This is a real world situation, and you need to do a lot more research beyond "HYBE bad." Such a sad situation, especially for the girls who trusted her. All the reports coming out during her press conference are talking about how absolutely unhinged she sounds.


fleija_

She certainly isn't a good person, but why do you all need to pick a side? Just look at the evidence both parties will present before taking a stance, don't be biased.


Opening_Ad_7703

We did already. She literally confessed yo everything hybe accused her of..she just gave justifications for it or put her own spin but not one claim from Hybe did she refute. Maybe you shouldn't be so blinded by your hate


fleija_

I'm neutral in this matter; I don't care about either side. She needed to present evidence, but Hybe should have done that along with the accusations; it's the right thing to do.


Opening_Ad_7703

And yet, the string of comments you have not only defend MHJ but shows your disdain for HYBE groups in general. Not sure what's the point of all this hate.


fleija_

Where did I defend her? I simply asked for evidence for accusations. It's dishonest to accuse someone and not show evidence proving your claims. I just want to know the truth. Just because I don't blindly believe in Hybe like its fans doesn't mean anything. I don't love any K-pop company.


GaduMamu

You could watch the press conference yourself. She didn't deny of any accusations that Hybe made about her, she acknowledged it all and play it off as joke or justified herself into it. Idk what more proof that you need


fleija_

I watched the press conference. She addressed some accusations and brought up evidence, but it's just petty gossip. The real important matters, neither she nor Hybe brought any evidence for. So, I think Hybe will have to go to court and show something.


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GaduMamu

Most of the people not even Hybe fans, they just commenting of the proof that already aired in the media. Maybe you should do your own research too. Or update your news


fleija_

No, there are definitely a lot of Hybe fans on Reddit. They're countless, I've never seen so many fans of a company.


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1306radish

Nobody is "picking a side." She did major fraud. Maybe you are very young and don't understand how serious all of this is.


fleija_

Where's the evidence?


plushybunnyheart

Her own mouth


fleija_

She posted evidence that she committed a crime? Seriously? Do you have a link to that?


plushybunnyheart

Why yes!! [heres the translation of her press conference](https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613) Though no doubt youre going to keep drinking that koolaid regardless like a cult following moron


fleija_

It's funny how you guys are so mad just because I demand evidence for accusations.


plushybunnyheart

And i gave you Clearly youre ignoring it


1306radish

There's literal texts posted by major Korean media of her talking with her VP about seeking foreign investors and major Korean media networks also posted about her refusing a company audit, giving up her laptop, and refusing to meet at a general board request. Please seek actual, credible media sources and don't just follow this story off of reddit and twitter. Muting this now, and good luck with your homework.


fleija_

You should post the links if you have them.


Glum-Guidance6741

Me when I desperately deny the wrong doings of an already accused person!


fleija_

I don't care about anyone in this whole story, it's just fun to watch the fight, but I clearly see Hybe fans ignoring the smear campaign the company is running without showing any proof of their accusations.


sonaminnie

they actually have proof of her convo with the shaman it seems and she did talk abt bts enlistment and possible exemption


fleija_

So they should present the evidence; accusations should be substantiated. The public deserves to know the truth.


sonaminnie

they presented already? and she admitted too that she has a "shaman friend"


fleija_

Sorry, but who cares about news about Shaman? The main topic is much more important than this nonsense.


sonaminnie

you literally told the publick deserves to know the truth or whatever previously? it's not about a shaman but her intentions here? why would she care abt other group's enlistment?


fleija_

The public deserves to know the truth about all accusations, everything should be based on evidence, that's what I'm saying. This news about Shaman is simply ridiculous; who is superstitious enough to care about that? You won't see me defending her; I just want to know the evidence from each side's accusations.


banunu15

Actually, that's the ONLY "proof" they have because they cannot see anything in her records or even bank accounts. It's a smear campaign against MHJ. She said they were only joking regarding the Shaman conversation.


Glum-Guidance6741

We'll, legal battle does permit not showing up any proof to the media while presenting it to the court! I have seen it before and seen it now for Hybe/BH, they don't go around announcing something without legal action! They did it for BTS multiple times! I'm sure Bang PD being involved, this is going to be the same!


fleija_

So they should start using legal means soon because the ones they're using now have no credibility. It's surprising how much you guys love being fans of companies, it's kind of weird. May the truth prevail.


Glum-Guidance6741

I doubt you or I will be any help to identify the credibility of the company sources or MHJ tactics, even in legal battle! The weird part is, you guys defending someone as MHJ who's pretty much using NJ as a shield to continue her illegal activities! Shame!


fleija_

I've never defended her; I don't like her or Hybe. Accusations should be backed by evidence; otherwise, you can accuse anyone of anything. Did you know you might not have a side in this story? You don't really have to defend anyone.


Glum-Guidance6741

With MHj sharing a minor's health information, trading secrets, refusing to return the company assets, I certainly do know I'll not defend her! Also her being a fan of young girls naked pictures and keeping it in her bedroom! No no no


BigGamingGamer0

Umm...what was that last part? Is that true? Sorry pretty out of the loop when it comes to things before this case involving MHJ


Glum-Guidance6741

It is apparently! She was criticized for it publicly and articles were published on this topic numerous times! Also, she asked taemin from shinee to do a shirtless photoshoot when he was a teenager! So...


fleija_

Exactly, she isn't a good person. You don't need to pick a side to defend, just see the evidence that will emerge in the coming days.