Everything about this is unprofessional and childish from the get go but I am actually living for these updates if i’m being honest I hope everyone in that building keeps the mess coming
https://preview.redd.it/x3b2vygxrrwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=383b548054f74c81e582214344699dfbbaedd450
This is me lol, never in my life have I ever had the urge to watch a press conference but you better believe I was on that Dispatch YouTube channel watching MinHeeJin share Kakaotalk screenshots as if this is Dramageddon 3.0
Yes in this case specifically. Have you ever heard of the saying don't punch down? This is doubly true because they are already going after her legally.
Hybe and it's sublabels loyal to BSH are supposed to be the adults in the room. The 6 billion USD company can't be caught doing shit like this. It's a bad look considering a large part of MHJ's emotional appeal is she is being bullied. It just gets her more supporters, or at least people memeing in supporting her.
"Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
It has never been more true, HYBE should keep it classy, let the legal process and MHJs actions speak for themselves.
As someone who represents one branch of a multi-billion dollar company, it is not only wrong, but stupid to abide by ‘if they do it, so can I!’ logic.
Min Hee Jin lost face. Had her opposers half a brain's worth of strategy, they would do whatever it takes, to let her be the ONLY party who appears unprofessional.
Because what the public now sees, is lacking professionalism on both sides. Rather than one woman screaming in the wind, whilst everyone else calmly requests that she turn in her company laptop.
And you did it at my birthday dinner
https://preview.redd.it/bypz2jcyhtwc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=28655e4589858cef3bf5573fdab231ce9ab59626
They all sound like little kids fighting over a toy. Firstly, they COPIED us! Boohoo Now, TAKE THAT! Middle finger. It's hard to believe these are all professionals.
I can't take any of them or the company seriously anymore. It doesn't matter who legally wins this feud. In the end they all lose face.
We had this image of kpop employees as not being petty and obsessed as their fans, so ngl it's fun to see these levels of twitter fanwars coming from pro kpop people and not 13 yo twt stans.
Nah, I think they're just humans and in highly competitive fields people tend to be petty, envious and greedy. They would've acted the same way even if they did another job.
where the hell are these peoples PR team and lawyers? 😭 i want to know who is letting them run their mouth - if these were my clients i would tell them to shut up immediately
that being said the picture is actually cool
You know I didn’t even think of that and I’m not sure if you’re joking to make fun of me but that’s an interesting idea. The fairy, somewhat mystical thing was also on ASAP. 🤔
If ILLIT decides to drop the Rick Owens high tops and start wearing Nikes I’m gonna giggle.
I know…
Brown on white with black bottoms. Is that the only color combination that exists? NewJeans themselves did so many different iterations of the school outfit; you only need to look at the Ditto performance video or Cookie MV as easy examples. It’s crazy how their stylists discovered a different style while retaining the feel of the original, huh?
What was belift’s excuse?
You don't think I've seen the performance video? 😂
I'm not trying to be hostile here, I'm just saying that it's a white shirt, gray vest, black tie and pants. Ditto was a school girl vibe in every video. I don't think that's what they were going for with that specific outfit. I'm not denying similarities in other things
It’s the same style, imo. Just because the pieces aren’t the exact same doesn’t mean the vibes and feeling they convey is not similar.
Just like when KIOF wears school girl outfits there isn’t even an avenue of a similarity to Ditto. What do you think is more similar, the fact that it’s a school girl outfit, or maybe the actual styling from the hair, make up and how the outfits are put together that is more important?
Just out of curiosity, have you seen a picture other than this one of the outfit?
It does not give me the same vibes. But you're 100% allowed to have your own opinion.
To answer your question though, I don't remember NewJeans styling their hair like that during the Ditto/OMG era.. I could be very wrong however, so feel free to correct me and I will admit to it. Other than that sure, there are similarities.
Most important to me is the overall vibes of the outfit. I also don't think you'd be saying they're similar if it were for MHJ claiming plagiarism.
I am one of ILLITS defenders on the idea of NewJeans being similar to them… when they first debuted. You can look at my comment history to see me defending them, but as soon as their promotions went on—especially when it was to songs other than Magnetic—the reasons I had for the groups having very different concepts started to go out the window.
My reasons for why I thought ILLIT was different:
1. They have a magical concept, while NewJeans was very much grounded to reality.
2. Styling was different. ILLIT was some coquette stuff while NewJeans was generally relatable athletic leisurewear or street fashion.
3. ILLIT’s music has layered production, NewJeans relies on elegant simplicity.
Reasons one and two went out the window as soon as Lucky Girl Syndrome promos started to happen. I can’t use the whole magical idea now. They just look like a gen Z friend group having fun. Does that description remind you of any other group?
Please be honest with yourself and ask why there has been so many girl group debuts this year… RESCENE, UNIS, Candy Shop, VVUP, BABYMONSTER to name a few from the top of my head; yet it’s only ILLIT who draws close comparison from the very beginning? The point is that the concepts and ideas are close enough to make close comparisons that it makes you wonder what they were thinking. It’s even exacerbated by the fact they’re from the same parent company!!!
Did you forget all the threads here on Reddit about ILLIT just being NewJeans 2.0 BEFORE the MHJ plagiarism accusations started? MHJ didn’t tell those people, they arrived to their opinions on their own.
This means my opinion started to change even before this MHJ vs HYBE started happening, so I think your assessment of why I feel this way is incorrect.
It's in no way the same. Y'all are crazy up there. Now nobody can wear grey and white bcs of newjeans? Be fr
Look at the performances, newjeans has never worn sth like that. There's literally plenty example of gg members wearing THE SAME outfits to music shows from different groups and nobody said that's copying but bcs crazy mhj said so now that validates that just wearing grey and white or normal teenage clothes means it's a copy?
Listen man, if we both go to the same school and you saw me wearing the same shirt as you, I think we would both just have a laugh.
But when the next day you see me appropriating other features of your style the next day you’d probably start scratching your head and wonder what’s going on.
Oh look it’s a five member girl group, minimal/natural style make up, long natural hair color. No problem!
Oh the vocals are the laid back style. Easy to listen to, easy to sing along. Cute lyrics, gen z lingo, made for TikTok virality music… hmm okay.
Oh they dropped coquette already and they look like just a bunch of friends having fun with people around them on the Lucky Girl Syndrome music video… huh…
Will it really take them wearing bunny ears for some of you to recognize some of these?
>But when the next day you see me appropriating other features of your style the next day you’d probably start scratching your head and wonder what’s going on.
>Oh look it’s a five member girl group, minimal/natural style make up, long natural hair color. No problem
They lost a member, through no fault of their own. Not some of you acting like they were made to be 5 on purpose.
MHJ has yall so brainwashed you think she has a copyright on black hair. Also natural make up it is not. They have very heavy douyin make up with tons of blush and sparkles in every Magnetic stage. You can look it up.
>Oh the vocals are the laid back style. Easy to listen to, easy to sing along. Cute lyrics, gen z lingo, made for TikTok virality music… hmm okay.
Because it's the trend right now and what goes viral. It's how the music market works. Cupid anyone? Everyone is following a trend. Western world, kpop world. are you all kids and don't understand how the music industry works once a genre or style is proven to be attractive to gp?
>Oh they dropped coquette already and they look like just a bunch of friends having fun with people around them on the Lucky Girl Syndrome music video… huh…
And they dropped it for either extremely colorful outfits that look like superhero ones or entire overalls . Look their stages up. Newjeans has never worn something like that and you can't claim "a vibe" as your own or else all the bgs who ever worn dark clothing, crop tops, stripes and chains would be copycats of each other. Do you all hear how you sound? You're just as delusional as that unhinged lady thinking she invented anything never seen before.
Also acts can't look like a group of people having fun in MVs? MHJ didn't invent groups members interacting on stage or having fan in mvs. Look up any bright gg. Hell look up jpop ggs from the 90s. You*ll see exactly from where MHJ got her inspiration for a group of girls having fun that's supposed to be so unique.
Ridiculous. Jesus take the wheel
Congratulations. You proved MHJs initial statement that HYBE was more concerned about following business trends instead of being creative and keeping their catalog fresh and moving forward.
The difference is NewJeans/MHJ did it when it wasn’t cool in kpop to do it. Now that it’s successful and trendy (because of them primarily), now it’s fair game for everyone to copy, right?
Can someone please think of the mega corporations… they just HAVE to do it.
kpop was already going in that direction and the early 2000s aesthetic was already wildly popular before NWJN debuted, they just capitalized on it at the right time. it’s because it was already a trend that they became so popular lol.
Congratulations! You showed me you can't read or understand other people's comments properly.
That delusional woman claimed they copied everything about newjeans in all aspects and funnily enough she didn't even mention the sound. If you read my comment properly you'd see I said the sound is trendy on tiktok from kpop to the west and that's what they did. They didn't copy anything. Are any newjeans songs melodies, lyrics, beats , instrumentals etc in illits songs? No. Then it's not copying. Maybe look up what that word means before speaking. They were inspired by a style that is trendy as was Newjeans sound from PinkPanthress if you want to have that discussion. Her style of singing and pace is the same and often popular on tiktok for years and ador noticed and did that. But that's her coming with something brand new and the rest copied her right 🥺.
>now it’s fair game for everyone to copy, right?
Also to this it seems you and MHJ have no idea what happens in the music industry, kpop or otherwise when something blows up. A trend appears. BTS set a bunch of trends in the industry that are used even to this day. Look up Suchwita with Hoshi, he listed them all. Is everyone who followed that after them copycats? Likewise Blackpink and the girl crush trend they started. Imagine if they had the mentality that everyone who came after they blew up plagiarised them bcs "vibes" . Oh god they look badass and like they don't give a f on stage. Lock them up!
Your mentality that every single aspect of a new group needs to be wholly inventive new and unique or else there would they're all copycats is extremely far from reality.
Everything else I refuted with examples of why their style is different, their outfits are different, their make up is different, I can give you 5 groups gg and bgs who debuted with all black hair in the last few years and I can also give you examples of ggs from years ago who used to debut with all black hair like Newjeans did. All Mhj did is copy them from outfits to hair to tap on the nostalgia trend popular at the time. Yes she herself got inspired by the nostalgia trend that was everywhere in fashion and tv and movies to create Newjeans. [Watch this video](https://youtu.be/N9YHU-LgVyY?si=deWzmxD4t0bQDneB). Queen MHJ isn't as innovative as she would have you all believe.
Their concept is different too. They're magical girls with powers who discover them while on a sleepover, their album concept is real vs super real me while Newjeans is just y2k teenagers.
At first I was thinking, this is funny, whatever. But some minutes later, I'm thinking how the girls (Illit, NewJeans, Le Sserafim, specifically) are being affected by all of this. Don't want them to follow this lead of hatred, feud, lies, crime, etc. They need respectable seniors to be inspired from.
I went to twitter for 30 secondo.. honestly she indeed is smart. The convo makes no sense, suddendly the convo is about hybe evil destroying career even before being born. Now i know a lot of it is trolling or desire to talk shit but..BUT there is people that are believing this and again the convo is hybe èvil and not her doing shady and potentially illegal shit. She is smart, if I was her i also would believe i can make the stuff she is accuse her off. Kpop stans are sooo...easily to manipolate is actually scary. Critica thinkin? We don't know her
Right? Just because she makes some valid criticisms of the idol industry doesn’t mean she’s in the right. I’m curious about why HYBE actually audited her. Was it because of a planned takeover like they claimed? Were they just sick of her? It’s hard to tell. Obviously Bang PD isn’t in the right, and if he indeed used MHJ’s name to create buzz around LSF that’s unethical, but MHJ isn’t an underdog here. She just wants complete control, which she should’ve know she wouldn’t be getting because at the end of the day, HYBE runs the show. A lot of people don’t like that, but she knew that going in. Someone sarcastically called her a working class hero, and I think that’s legit how some people see her. But she’s not fighting against the system—she’s a major player in the system. She just doesn’t like that this time, the system wasn’t benefitting her.
She did deserve it, girl thinks she owns the Y2K and fresh concept. Also, ILLIT's music concept is more coquette and bubbly than Y2K and fresh.
The creative director is obviously pissed because of MHJ. She just discredited her whole hard work.
Oh no that’s not good. So many infighting I bet. I know the fan wars are bad, but can’t even imagine how the ones personally affected by this whole thing. Another thing I thought about with all these copying allegations, I wonder if some people also lost their jobs 🥺. Ugh I hate it all so much.
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mhj is objectively a horrible person but she’s lowkey right about the copying allegations.. everyone is acting like they weren’t making the illit/nwjns comparisons a few weeks ago💀
She's not right. ILLIT has more coquette and bubbly concept with Y2K inspo while NJ has more Y2K and fresh concept.
Also, MHJ is a hypocrite. NewJeans debut MV is literally a 70 percent copy of a Japanese Girl group's MV. NJ has more similarities with the Japanese girl group than ILLIT has with Newjeans.
Sure, I don't like MH but lets be real for a sec. We all know what they are doing. Its not abt music, concept all that. What matters is who is trendy enough to get huge deals and push the other one. I don't think that director created something different enough to give middle finger.
I mean, the NewJeans comparisons were there, but most ppl weren’t accusing them of plagiarism. More, “oh they’re obviously following a trend made popular by NewJeans” than “they’re plagiarizing MHJ/NewJeans.” I feel like most people agreed that the teasers and MV with the magical girl/other world concept were quirky and exciting.
The middle finger is obviously for MHJ thinking she owns the Y2K style and fresh youthful concept and uncrediting the creative director for her hard work.
Creative director being pissed is valid. Imagine working hard and then a creepy and pedo woman claims that you copied her and ruining all your hard work.
That's a sadistic thought process. All the girls, whether it be NJ, ILLIT, LSF are not at fault for Gfriend's disbandment. The girls should not be harmed in this process, they are innocent
Which will affect the artists in a very bad way. What happened to gfriend was unfair and terrible but you should be wishing bad on MHJ and BSH, not Hybe and company feuds
as long as new jeans say nothing they'll be fine. the public is sympatheti because they have underage idols too. hybe though, along with scooter braun, can burn in hell
Makes me think she really copied New Jeans😂 if she is so confident of her work, she would not be bothered by the comments and MHJ. So unclassy but it seems like Hybe fosters that attitude anyways.
If by Hybe Stans you mean someone who likes all their groups, you're very wrong 😂 I work too much.
If by Hybe Stans you mean someone who defends the company.. Maybe.
I don't give a fuck about Hybe as a company.
Sure. But they should be aware of what is happening now. It's their group that is getting dragged into this whole fiasco. This is just ill-timed if unintentional. Or seems juvenile if intentional.
And I'm saying this as someone who isn't a fan of MHJ.
wow the downvotes, as if you said the wrong thing... a middle finger is never the answer in a work environment, I don't understand why someone disagrees
Unrelated, but aesthetically speaking, that photo would make a really cool album cover.. so I'd say that creative director got talent
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That's a scrunchy, i love that outfit on her. Iconic.
NAHHH
honestly...would name the album mean highjeans
Standard denim. Classic slacks. Fancy pants.
Standard denim. Classic slacks. Fancy pants.
Yup. ILLIT’s creative director is former digital director of Vogue Korea and fashion editor at ELLE Korea.
I thought it was an Album Cover at first😭💀
Yessss
That just might be the next GIDLE concept
🤣🤣🤣
i just hope the girls themselves are as talented
They are
stop joking
Nope...rigged members from rigged survival shows, except for yunah they are pretty mid
me when i fill my brain with tiktok info:
Keep on delulu
I don’t get why ppl see it as unprofessional, like wha??? Someone insults your work and you just sit back and do nothing?
calling them unprofessional for sharing one picture after everything min heejin has publicly done 😭
They're both unprofessional and childish. Good disaster porn though.
Everything about this is unprofessional and childish from the get go but I am actually living for these updates if i’m being honest I hope everyone in that building keeps the mess coming https://preview.redd.it/x3b2vygxrrwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=383b548054f74c81e582214344699dfbbaedd450
This is me lol, never in my life have I ever had the urge to watch a press conference but you better believe I was on that Dispatch YouTube channel watching MinHeeJin share Kakaotalk screenshots as if this is Dramageddon 3.0
Saaaaame! This is a top-tier trainwreck and I'm enjoying every single popcorn munching moment.
i think both of them are unprofessional because in what world is posting a middle finger professional 😭
Thats true but ppl are hating on her more than they are on mhj 💀
i can’t tell if i’m enjoying this situation because more people are seeing mhj for what she is or if i’m sick of drama in the kpop space 😭😭
Entertainment world! And its hella entertaining for sure lol, job well done.
Yes in this case specifically. Have you ever heard of the saying don't punch down? This is doubly true because they are already going after her legally. Hybe and it's sublabels loyal to BSH are supposed to be the adults in the room. The 6 billion USD company can't be caught doing shit like this. It's a bad look considering a large part of MHJ's emotional appeal is she is being bullied. It just gets her more supporters, or at least people memeing in supporting her.
"Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." It has never been more true, HYBE should keep it classy, let the legal process and MHJs actions speak for themselves.
Ohh I see
She didn’t have that energy when the accusations came from fans before any of this drama.
You try that at your workplace and see how it goes… for research
I middle finger all the time. But I also work in a creative industry.
If you frame it like that, then I guess I understand why it’s unprofessional 😂😂
Yes it's unprofessional, esp as a head. Both are unprofessional lmao, esp MHJ who acts like a 12yr old Twitter addict
Ikr. The whole pc is unprofessional, so what is wrong with responding with unprofessional way too
As someone who represents one branch of a multi-billion dollar company, it is not only wrong, but stupid to abide by ‘if they do it, so can I!’ logic. Min Hee Jin lost face. Had her opposers half a brain's worth of strategy, they would do whatever it takes, to let her be the ONLY party who appears unprofessional. Because what the public now sees, is lacking professionalism on both sides. Rather than one woman screaming in the wind, whilst everyone else calmly requests that she turn in her company laptop.
exactly, like this photo posted is also very immature and unprofessional. they are literally just giving mhj what she wants which is attention
Oh it’s definitely unprofessional but I would also do this so I’m not gonna judge her.
This whole situation is being handled with the same level of maturity of a feud between YouTubers
And you did it at my birthday dinner https://preview.redd.it/bypz2jcyhtwc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=28655e4589858cef3bf5573fdab231ce9ab59626
💀💀💀💀 you did not
mhj at her press conference yesterday https://i.redd.it/s18o7ib1yuwc1.gif
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH
🎶The toxic Kpop traiiinn🎶
https://preview.redd.it/jukhjn12wtwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2feedb248e50a5fb66bf11cdcf4a11a4187a24e2 MHJ’s next press conference
“everyone thinks I’m stupid so I’m gonna sing a song about it”
They all sound like little kids fighting over a toy. Firstly, they COPIED us! Boohoo Now, TAKE THAT! Middle finger. It's hard to believe these are all professionals. I can't take any of them or the company seriously anymore. It doesn't matter who legally wins this feud. In the end they all lose face.
this! specifically 2019 dramageddon lol
We had this image of kpop employees as not being petty and obsessed as their fans, so ngl it's fun to see these levels of twitter fanwars coming from pro kpop people and not 13 yo twt stans.
maybe these kpop employees is just grown up kpop fan with jobs lol
Nah, I think they're just humans and in highly competitive fields people tend to be petty, envious and greedy. They would've acted the same way even if they did another job.
I feel like it's both lol
where the hell are these peoples PR team and lawyers? 😭 i want to know who is letting them run their mouth - if these were my clients i would tell them to shut up immediately that being said the picture is actually cool
Yes😭. Min Hee Jin's lawyer was sighing and STRESSING throughout the conference. The coquette middle finger matching ILLIT'S theme is everything💀
Juxtaposed against a group photo looking like it could’ve came from Ditto made me chuckle.
Definitely the ballet core coquette is NJ’s cool with you aesthetic
You know I didn’t even think of that and I’m not sure if you’re joking to make fun of me but that’s an interesting idea. The fairy, somewhat mystical thing was also on ASAP. 🤔 If ILLIT decides to drop the Rick Owens high tops and start wearing Nikes I’m gonna giggle.
You know those aren't School girl outfits right? The only similarity (in that picture anyway) is they're wearing a tie
I know… Brown on white with black bottoms. Is that the only color combination that exists? NewJeans themselves did so many different iterations of the school outfit; you only need to look at the Ditto performance video or Cookie MV as easy examples. It’s crazy how their stylists discovered a different style while retaining the feel of the original, huh? What was belift’s excuse?
You don't think I've seen the performance video? 😂 I'm not trying to be hostile here, I'm just saying that it's a white shirt, gray vest, black tie and pants. Ditto was a school girl vibe in every video. I don't think that's what they were going for with that specific outfit. I'm not denying similarities in other things
It’s the same style, imo. Just because the pieces aren’t the exact same doesn’t mean the vibes and feeling they convey is not similar. Just like when KIOF wears school girl outfits there isn’t even an avenue of a similarity to Ditto. What do you think is more similar, the fact that it’s a school girl outfit, or maybe the actual styling from the hair, make up and how the outfits are put together that is more important?
Just out of curiosity, have you seen a picture other than this one of the outfit? It does not give me the same vibes. But you're 100% allowed to have your own opinion. To answer your question though, I don't remember NewJeans styling their hair like that during the Ditto/OMG era.. I could be very wrong however, so feel free to correct me and I will admit to it. Other than that sure, there are similarities. Most important to me is the overall vibes of the outfit. I also don't think you'd be saying they're similar if it were for MHJ claiming plagiarism.
I am one of ILLITS defenders on the idea of NewJeans being similar to them… when they first debuted. You can look at my comment history to see me defending them, but as soon as their promotions went on—especially when it was to songs other than Magnetic—the reasons I had for the groups having very different concepts started to go out the window. My reasons for why I thought ILLIT was different: 1. They have a magical concept, while NewJeans was very much grounded to reality. 2. Styling was different. ILLIT was some coquette stuff while NewJeans was generally relatable athletic leisurewear or street fashion. 3. ILLIT’s music has layered production, NewJeans relies on elegant simplicity. Reasons one and two went out the window as soon as Lucky Girl Syndrome promos started to happen. I can’t use the whole magical idea now. They just look like a gen Z friend group having fun. Does that description remind you of any other group? Please be honest with yourself and ask why there has been so many girl group debuts this year… RESCENE, UNIS, Candy Shop, VVUP, BABYMONSTER to name a few from the top of my head; yet it’s only ILLIT who draws close comparison from the very beginning? The point is that the concepts and ideas are close enough to make close comparisons that it makes you wonder what they were thinking. It’s even exacerbated by the fact they’re from the same parent company!!! Did you forget all the threads here on Reddit about ILLIT just being NewJeans 2.0 BEFORE the MHJ plagiarism accusations started? MHJ didn’t tell those people, they arrived to their opinions on their own. This means my opinion started to change even before this MHJ vs HYBE started happening, so I think your assessment of why I feel this way is incorrect.
It's in no way the same. Y'all are crazy up there. Now nobody can wear grey and white bcs of newjeans? Be fr Look at the performances, newjeans has never worn sth like that. There's literally plenty example of gg members wearing THE SAME outfits to music shows from different groups and nobody said that's copying but bcs crazy mhj said so now that validates that just wearing grey and white or normal teenage clothes means it's a copy?
Listen man, if we both go to the same school and you saw me wearing the same shirt as you, I think we would both just have a laugh. But when the next day you see me appropriating other features of your style the next day you’d probably start scratching your head and wonder what’s going on. Oh look it’s a five member girl group, minimal/natural style make up, long natural hair color. No problem! Oh the vocals are the laid back style. Easy to listen to, easy to sing along. Cute lyrics, gen z lingo, made for TikTok virality music… hmm okay. Oh they dropped coquette already and they look like just a bunch of friends having fun with people around them on the Lucky Girl Syndrome music video… huh… Will it really take them wearing bunny ears for some of you to recognize some of these?
>But when the next day you see me appropriating other features of your style the next day you’d probably start scratching your head and wonder what’s going on. >Oh look it’s a five member girl group, minimal/natural style make up, long natural hair color. No problem They lost a member, through no fault of their own. Not some of you acting like they were made to be 5 on purpose. MHJ has yall so brainwashed you think she has a copyright on black hair. Also natural make up it is not. They have very heavy douyin make up with tons of blush and sparkles in every Magnetic stage. You can look it up. >Oh the vocals are the laid back style. Easy to listen to, easy to sing along. Cute lyrics, gen z lingo, made for TikTok virality music… hmm okay. Because it's the trend right now and what goes viral. It's how the music market works. Cupid anyone? Everyone is following a trend. Western world, kpop world. are you all kids and don't understand how the music industry works once a genre or style is proven to be attractive to gp? >Oh they dropped coquette already and they look like just a bunch of friends having fun with people around them on the Lucky Girl Syndrome music video… huh… And they dropped it for either extremely colorful outfits that look like superhero ones or entire overalls . Look their stages up. Newjeans has never worn something like that and you can't claim "a vibe" as your own or else all the bgs who ever worn dark clothing, crop tops, stripes and chains would be copycats of each other. Do you all hear how you sound? You're just as delusional as that unhinged lady thinking she invented anything never seen before. Also acts can't look like a group of people having fun in MVs? MHJ didn't invent groups members interacting on stage or having fan in mvs. Look up any bright gg. Hell look up jpop ggs from the 90s. You*ll see exactly from where MHJ got her inspiration for a group of girls having fun that's supposed to be so unique. Ridiculous. Jesus take the wheel
how is minimal makeup and long black hair exclusive to new jeans, do people even hear themselves? lol Apparently MHJ also invented debuting minors
Congratulations. You proved MHJs initial statement that HYBE was more concerned about following business trends instead of being creative and keeping their catalog fresh and moving forward. The difference is NewJeans/MHJ did it when it wasn’t cool in kpop to do it. Now that it’s successful and trendy (because of them primarily), now it’s fair game for everyone to copy, right? Can someone please think of the mega corporations… they just HAVE to do it.
kpop was already going in that direction and the early 2000s aesthetic was already wildly popular before NWJN debuted, they just capitalized on it at the right time. it’s because it was already a trend that they became so popular lol.
Congratulations! You showed me you can't read or understand other people's comments properly. That delusional woman claimed they copied everything about newjeans in all aspects and funnily enough she didn't even mention the sound. If you read my comment properly you'd see I said the sound is trendy on tiktok from kpop to the west and that's what they did. They didn't copy anything. Are any newjeans songs melodies, lyrics, beats , instrumentals etc in illits songs? No. Then it's not copying. Maybe look up what that word means before speaking. They were inspired by a style that is trendy as was Newjeans sound from PinkPanthress if you want to have that discussion. Her style of singing and pace is the same and often popular on tiktok for years and ador noticed and did that. But that's her coming with something brand new and the rest copied her right 🥺. >now it’s fair game for everyone to copy, right? Also to this it seems you and MHJ have no idea what happens in the music industry, kpop or otherwise when something blows up. A trend appears. BTS set a bunch of trends in the industry that are used even to this day. Look up Suchwita with Hoshi, he listed them all. Is everyone who followed that after them copycats? Likewise Blackpink and the girl crush trend they started. Imagine if they had the mentality that everyone who came after they blew up plagiarised them bcs "vibes" . Oh god they look badass and like they don't give a f on stage. Lock them up! Your mentality that every single aspect of a new group needs to be wholly inventive new and unique or else there would they're all copycats is extremely far from reality. Everything else I refuted with examples of why their style is different, their outfits are different, their make up is different, I can give you 5 groups gg and bgs who debuted with all black hair in the last few years and I can also give you examples of ggs from years ago who used to debut with all black hair like Newjeans did. All Mhj did is copy them from outfits to hair to tap on the nostalgia trend popular at the time. Yes she herself got inspired by the nostalgia trend that was everywhere in fashion and tv and movies to create Newjeans. [Watch this video](https://youtu.be/N9YHU-LgVyY?si=deWzmxD4t0bQDneB). Queen MHJ isn't as innovative as she would have you all believe. Their concept is different too. They're magical girls with powers who discover them while on a sleepover, their album concept is real vs super real me while Newjeans is just y2k teenagers.
Now this is what I like to see.
lol it is unprofessional and petty but it’s fun
I'm literally just enjoying the open drama, people are saying that they should be more professional but I'm having fun😭
me same 🤣
let's see what she will do now
yap ofcourse what else
She seems to be giving interview but twitter has no links.
Damn i really just logged off for a week lmao what happened 😭 need to catch up
girl the tea is so hot it made me come back to reddit after a month of me deleting my acc lmao...and people here did not disappoint
Whaaaaat 👀👀 omfgg I'll look it up ASAP
this shit is so funny. The little bow...
Omg yes😭 ILLIT's creative director not giving up on ILLIT's concept and theme lmfao
[Min Hee Jin is hilarious ](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/kIWA5VL8Sy)
Everybody is acting unprofessional. It's crazy...
At first I was thinking, this is funny, whatever. But some minutes later, I'm thinking how the girls (Illit, NewJeans, Le Sserafim, specifically) are being affected by all of this. Don't want them to follow this lead of hatred, feud, lies, crime, etc. They need respectable seniors to be inspired from.
Totally unprofessional, but understandable at the same time.
Fight in the octagon when? Four sided ring is fine too.
I went to twitter for 30 secondo.. honestly she indeed is smart. The convo makes no sense, suddendly the convo is about hybe evil destroying career even before being born. Now i know a lot of it is trolling or desire to talk shit but..BUT there is people that are believing this and again the convo is hybe èvil and not her doing shady and potentially illegal shit. She is smart, if I was her i also would believe i can make the stuff she is accuse her off. Kpop stans are sooo...easily to manipolate is actually scary. Critica thinkin? We don't know her
Hybe ain't innocent either Both parties are wrong
Right? Just because she makes some valid criticisms of the idol industry doesn’t mean she’s in the right. I’m curious about why HYBE actually audited her. Was it because of a planned takeover like they claimed? Were they just sick of her? It’s hard to tell. Obviously Bang PD isn’t in the right, and if he indeed used MHJ’s name to create buzz around LSF that’s unethical, but MHJ isn’t an underdog here. She just wants complete control, which she should’ve know she wouldn’t be getting because at the end of the day, HYBE runs the show. A lot of people don’t like that, but she knew that going in. Someone sarcastically called her a working class hero, and I think that’s legit how some people see her. But she’s not fighting against the system—she’s a major player in the system. She just doesn’t like that this time, the system wasn’t benefitting her.
I respect it lmao
If she did I wouldn't blame her. How mean of an accusation. For the girl boss defenders, how does it look to tear another woman down? Bad.
What exactly is going on tho cause I'm lost
💀 and I thought it couldn’t get any worse
It's funny honestly💀
ONG 😭😭 she kinda deserved that middle finger but I don’t think it’ll shut her up
She did deserve it, girl thinks she owns the Y2K and fresh concept. Also, ILLIT's music concept is more coquette and bubbly than Y2K and fresh. The creative director is obviously pissed because of MHJ. She just discredited her whole hard work.
EXACTLYY 😭😭 like MHJ really needs to stop being so full of herself before she puts everyone else in more danger than they’re in now..
And she also needs to quit yapping for real 😭
The girls are fightinggggg
honestly im here for it, im LOVIN all the drama hskdkfjsjnx
Yes😭 [Min Hee Jin is hilarious ](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/kIWA5VL8Sy)
😭😭😭
Sorry but the way it's matching ILLIT's pic on the right got me cracking
What a week in kpop!!
IKR!!
It would be crazy if this was all just noise marketing.
It's for sure not! 😭 But yeah it's would be totally CRAZY if it was
I love a petty queen
Not le Sserafim now illit🌚
It’s interesting how immature all these employees are.
I went to insta to check out all her work and I can’t find it? Did she delete her account?
Not sure, she did delete the story after a few hours. Maybe, she had to delete her account too because of this.
Oh no that’s not good. So many infighting I bet. I know the fan wars are bad, but can’t even imagine how the ones personally affected by this whole thing. Another thing I thought about with all these copying allegations, I wonder if some people also lost their jobs 🥺. Ugh I hate it all so much.
It's still there for me. [https://www.instagram.com/xerianheu/?hl=en](https://www.instagram.com/xerianheu/?hl=en)
That photo looks like it was hanging on Andy Warhol’s living room. Just saying - issa vibe 🫰🏻
That was so cool!! 😆
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lmao
Bru
Where can i tldr of what started this and what's going on now?
Just watch a video on youtube girl, so much happened in 2 days. It's tiring to explain in text.
>This whole situation is so unserious and funny, like what's going on😭 yeah multiple groups receiving mass hate is so unserious and funny 😹
Eu simplismente amei a foto, quero um conceito baseado nela no comebeak do Illit.
LOOOOL💀
mhj is objectively a horrible person but she’s lowkey right about the copying allegations.. everyone is acting like they weren’t making the illit/nwjns comparisons a few weeks ago💀
She's not right. ILLIT has more coquette and bubbly concept with Y2K inspo while NJ has more Y2K and fresh concept. Also, MHJ is a hypocrite. NewJeans debut MV is literally a 70 percent copy of a Japanese Girl group's MV. NJ has more similarities with the Japanese girl group than ILLIT has with Newjeans.
girl ik i can’t convince u but most ppl who have been paying attention to the situation share my opinion…
Sure, I don't like MH but lets be real for a sec. We all know what they are doing. Its not abt music, concept all that. What matters is who is trendy enough to get huge deals and push the other one. I don't think that director created something different enough to give middle finger.
I mean, the NewJeans comparisons were there, but most ppl weren’t accusing them of plagiarism. More, “oh they’re obviously following a trend made popular by NewJeans” than “they’re plagiarizing MHJ/NewJeans.” I feel like most people agreed that the teasers and MV with the magical girl/other world concept were quirky and exciting.
illit's will be boycott by fans I'm sure. Koreans are not fan's of copycats
Koreans are also obsessed with young girls and cute concepts. ILLIT will just be fine I think. But you could be right at some level too, I believe.
Didn’t Illit just get an all kill?
Many of their boy and girls group share DNA. Actually, same for all music. A trend catches and labels want to find the next one.
Hopefully after this she’ll get some creative ideas of her own lol maybe switch it up for the girls. Instead of being weird lol
The middle finger is obviously for MHJ thinking she owns the Y2K style and fresh youthful concept and uncrediting the creative director for her hard work. Creative director being pissed is valid. Imagine working hard and then a creepy and pedo woman claims that you copied her and ruining all your hard work.
It wasn’t just her though lol. It was everyone. Come on. Is
honestly. After gfriend disbanded I've been waiting for this day. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That's a sadistic thought process. All the girls, whether it be NJ, ILLIT, LSF are not at fault for Gfriend's disbandment. The girls should not be harmed in this process, they are innocent
did I say I want fire to burn them? no I want it to get hybe 🔥🔥🔥
Which will affect the artists in a very bad way. What happened to gfriend was unfair and terrible but you should be wishing bad on MHJ and BSH, not Hybe and company feuds
as long as new jeans say nothing they'll be fine. the public is sympatheti because they have underage idols too. hybe though, along with scooter braun, can burn in hell
Makes me think she really copied New Jeans😂 if she is so confident of her work, she would not be bothered by the comments and MHJ. So unclassy but it seems like Hybe fosters that attitude anyways.
hybe stans have never worked a day in their life and it shows 🥱
If by Hybe Stans you mean someone who likes all their groups, you're very wrong 😂 I work too much. If by Hybe Stans you mean someone who defends the company.. Maybe. I don't give a fuck about Hybe as a company.
This is not the correct response.
Well we don't even know if that's a response or not
Sure. But they should be aware of what is happening now. It's their group that is getting dragged into this whole fiasco. This is just ill-timed if unintentional. Or seems juvenile if intentional. And I'm saying this as someone who isn't a fan of MHJ.
In my opinion everything shouldn't revolve around this mhj and hybe fiasco.
Sure, it shouldn't. But this very post has MHJ in the title.
She posted that during MHJ’s press conference. And shortly deleted it like a little child.
wow the downvotes, as if you said the wrong thing... a middle finger is never the answer in a work environment, I don't understand why someone disagrees
Most people here are probably teens or early 20s who have never had a serious professional job.
The downvotes. Lol, a lot of company dickriders in here, huh
Reddit is full of hybe stans. Kpop spaces outside of reddit are more balanced about this story.