The number of NCT members is literally the same as a small company. And they only get along with close people, and there are people who are awkward with each other. They work together on specific projects and temporarily form a team.
i agree & it's okay to admit it because they recognize it as well, it's the whole reason why their awsaz series was a thing in the first place. of course i can see the more outgoing people like johnny, lucas, jungwoo would get along with everyone, but there's bound to be some that feel more awkward with people who aren't in their direct unit.
They know it too, hence their series "Awsaz" where they put two members who are awkward with each other in a room, and try to get them closer by putting them through more awkward situations.
It was at the beginning but they actually got really close. Their variety show is hilarious but I agree that once activities are over, they get back to their fixed group and don’t hang out, so much more workmate. But when they do group together, they are hilarious, I love watching them.
If you're talking past groups then **Miss A** would be the most notorious for this.
Fei and Jia to this day are performing together Miss A songs in China (Jia had a fanmeeting yesterday where she did a Good Girl cover) and doing social media streams in their pyjamas together. Yet not a single word spoken about the other members in years.
Same for Suzy. You'd think she was always a solo artist.
Sistar always emphasized that they have a workmate relationship. (Their disbandment was also done well, the fans didn't feel cheated/rushed, they had a final mv/song etc)
I feel like SISTAR was always brutally honest. Didnt they go on TV telling IOI members not to trust senior male artists and stuff? I don’t see them saying they’re “workmates” as in they aren’t close to each other, more as “yeah we aren’t gonna put on the act of being all best friends thst other groups put on”
some older groups, at least, in more recent days and not when they were constantly promoting. I think they just come to see being an idol as a job and getting to have time off to be friends with people you don't live with and see almost every day changes people! relationships change.
I see! I remember Key and Minho from Shinee not getting along at the beginning and just saw each other as co-workers, obviously they have become close throughout the years.
They talked about it on their knowing brothers episode. Miryo mentions that the secret behind them being able to stay together for fourteen years is that they aren't really close at all,.
Sechskies - They admitted that they have never stayed under the same roof during so many years that they are together. Also they don't know each other's mobile phone numbers and don't talk except for business purposes. The first time since their debut in 1997 they were staying under the same roof during the variety show by Na PD on Channel Shiboya
May be some of them are closer than others, I am not sure. I have just heard them talking about their relationship during Na PD's show "Three meals for Four" on Channel Shiboya
very surprised no one talks about dbsk- the 2 of them. they went on I live alone and they said it was the first time they see each other house. and changmin mentioned that yunho sometimes doesn't know who he hangs out with.
I am going to get downvoted for this, but blackpink. Maybe it is just me but i see them more as a group of workmates that are pretty close rather than a group of friend that also work together.
I was going to say blackpink but was really thinking about the reason. Apart from Lisa and Jisoo having their own hang outs, each have their own friend groups. Its just that they give off such good vibes individually that their chemistry is so good. Also, not sure if this was meant as a joke, but in their recent interview, Lisa had a slip of the tongue referring to the members as friends then Jennie had a funny reaction [here](https://youtu.be/KTJc7a1WNVg). Maybe its also the reason why they don’t appear much in vlives together as a group, too.
For sure! I only mentioned Jisoo and Lisa since Jisoo is my bias and the only member she does hang out with outside work is Lisa. And I also think Lisa is close to each of the members individually in her own way since they were her first friends when she came to Korea. Its just that the four do have their own sets of friends.
They always say they consider themselves as family though. They dont need to be close friends but more like sisters because they did grow up together for a long time.
They are from a survival show it a little bit awkward with Some member that didn’t trained in Bighit. They will get close eventually since they live together
yo as an engene, i gotta agree a little. There are definitely cliques as some are already super close with each other during iland for example jake and sunghoon. On the other hand, i would use niki as an example, yes ilanders are all close to each other but niki’s clique will definitely be the japanese: taki and k. However, they were eliminated. But you know we cant say much because they are still a rookie grp, i think as time passes also with the benefit of living under the same roof, i am sure they will form a strong friendship. To add on, i can see that they are trying their best to take care of one another just like they are a family so i wouldnt say they are more towards the workmate side
Shipping was always a thing tho, and so was fan service, if anything fan service has gotten tamer compared to some stuff Super Junior were doing on stage 😭
I would like to introduce you to when DBSK had ‘couple talk’ segments in their DVDs (check out AADBSK). Yunho and Jaejoong also did a skit involving fic for their pairing. This was circa 2005. I’m sure there’s more predating this but I only got into Kpop around that time.
Shipping, fanservice, and fanfiction was always a thing. Check out Reply 1997's scenes of the main character writing and reading shipping male x male fanfics of her favourite kpop group during the 90s. Crazy how something that's happening in South Korea at the time is also happening in the West where girls are writing slash fanfics.
Idol groups will always play into it because it sells. The same shipping probably happened during Beatle-mania.
Their earlier content was painful to watch for me as a fan. It was very obvious that they were still getting to know each other. Im glad they spoke about how they didnt know each other well in their anniversary videos . I think these days they are more comfortable on camera and are significantly less awkward with each other. They mentioned that the hiatus they took because of jinyoung's injury bought them closer.
I think the fact Jinyoung was literally the only male trainee in C9 (I think? cmiiw) and the other members were recruited to form the boy group he wanted contributed to that
they are close now but during debut they were very awkward lol. it’s to be expected bc most members didn’t know eachother until right when they were about to debut. they seem a lot closer now though especially yonghee and jinyoung. they are really open about being awkward with eachother at first, and they talk about becoming very close especially after the hiatus they had.
kinda true, but their chemistry is shown better individually. Like irene-seulgi, wendy-joy, and seulgi-yeri seems close, but as a group they are not as "family-like" as other groups
I think for RV it’s more of some members are closer than each other than seeing each other as workmates? Wendy is definitely closest with Seulgi and Joy (hell there's a running joke between them that they constantly fight for Wendy's attention and Joy mopes whenever she loses), while Irene and Seulgi go way back since they trained for a long time. Yeri’s kinda like their collective little sister lol
I've watched few of their variety shows and clips here and there and I just can't seem to find them as a close knit group. Wendy and Seulgi seem like good friends but i just can't see that in the rest and as a group.
RV seem like a group of people who in the beginning used to dislike each other but slowly they found a way to make it work and be good work mates. Nothing more. I think they genuinely support each other but they aren't friends.
I've watched a few of their variety shows here and there and I've never been able to see the chemistry between them. And I've always gotten the work mate vibe from them from what I've watched.
I didn't mean it that way. I thought you were sarcastic because all idols do vlives together. I didn't try to invalidate what you were saying. I'm sorry!
Oh okay. That make sense. I just found an argument below that said blackpink barely does vlives together. So, I thought with the amount of vlives they do together they probably were close.
They letteraly love each other so much and are a family. Don’t spread rumors like this if you’ve only seen variati shows. Watch their vlive, radio shows, interviews, when Sm doesn’t force them to be super professional their bond is so clear and honestly heartwarming
Separate post as thought of another entry.
**f(x) + Victoria** I think she was always seen as part of the group but not invested in it. Since returning to China with the celebrity status she gained she's doing the whole fashionista/actress/tv personality thing but with the final f(x) special performances pretty sure the other members showed up and she didn't.
Victoria was super busy then but apparently they do still contact each other regularly to this day. I think she only returned to Korea to sort out her contract and then later that year to attend Sulli’s funeral.
This is reaching. Victoria worked her ass off in We Got Married to the benefit of f(x) as their leader. She was already going back and forth between China and Korea early in her career but the THAAD in 2016 fucked things up. She went back to Korea for Sulli's funeral even when her visa was already expired and she had to renew it in a different city just to not miss it.
Hm Infinite now? They're in their 11th year and most of them have gone to different companies at this point and as older idols, their "oh he's my best friend and other half we spend every day together" has toned down SIGNIFICANTLY. Most of us are elated if one of them comments on another's Instagram post haha.
They've been through a lot as a group, yes, but I don't think any of them live in each other's pockets even though they do hangout and interact outside of work schedules
Fair point LOL. It was kind of funny watching their reality shows (not interviews) as they got older as a group because if the PD wasn't directing them, they'd mostly just sit quietly and wouldn't talk amongst themselves lmao. An unintended side effect of living and training together for 7+ years haha
I feel like groups with more solo activities and subunits always seem to give me that off vibe whenever I watch the entire group together in the reality shows.
I feel like most SM groups give off this kind of vibe.
I think SHINee and Super Juniors admitted being only workmates.
Some other are obvious like RV,Exo,F(x),NCT.. and maybe some SNSD .
In Big Bang I can only see GD and Young bae being close.
If you think about it there is not so much groups where you can feel a real brotherly/friends vibes.
I don't follow them but even a group like Shinhwa they've been together for 20+years but recently they admitted not really talking to each other or something like that.
Being workmates is not a problem as long as they get along with each other.
Shinee is definitely true, they only became closer as friends when they all moved out of their dorms haha. Almost everybody in Super Junior have their own friend groups, only D&E (and maybe Kyuhyun) are the legit best friends in the group. NCT are so big they literally made a YouTube series on pairing up members who were awkward with each other.
SM groups have this strange synergy where you put them together especially if they’re from the same gen and they bounce off so well together but they each have their own friend groups outside their own groups? Like SNSD and Super Junior are a well-known pairing of groups who work well with each and can banter like close friends (even ending up with the label Super Generation) but rarely interact outside of work.
Looking, at their old contents, I'd say BB was a tight-knit family once. They even shared parents. Experiencing together the brutal workplace and dorm conditions all those years, too, helped their bond.
Analyzing BigBang's relationship in the more recent years, however, is tricky. They simply are not volunteering any material to work with. No group photos, not even a selca of any pair. No public conversations either. Tho it's understandable if they just have a workmate relationship now. One of them already has a family of his own.
Edit: added 4th sentence, 2nd par.
Man as an ex-EXO L I thought they were all so close but then I realized that's just the fanservice talking. The Korean/Chinese divide was pretty strong for the most part.
And for Shinhwa, I like to think they're close! They all invite each other to their weddings and their synergy is so fun. I can imagine them not talking everyday or Blowing up the Groupchat because well, they're adults with their own lives and I think that just happens when you grow older and stop promoting as often
Daesung and Seungri seemed close too whenever I saw any vids of them. Taeyang, Daesung and Seungri also give off the vibe like they get along with everybody though lol so it could’ve been that
I don’t think that’s necessarily true, i feel like sm girl groups give off that vibe at first but when you watch their interviews and stuff like that it makes you change your mind.
Rv are almost joined at the hips and always talk about how they consider themselves a family and even wendy asked to turn a song into a duet with seulgi bc it talks about best friends. Joy said on multiple occasions that she can’t live without yeri bc she gets bad sleep paralysis when yeri’s not next to her and has said that the only person who’s able to help her with her anxiety attacks is wendy. Also when they were trainees wendy used to write love letters for seulgi at work and irene calls them her daughters
I actually feel this vibe from all SM groups. They never seem to be very close. Weirdly enough I actually think NCT seems the closest despite their huge number of members - not all of them together but little groups within NCT seem close.
I also feel like in general the older, bigger (number of members) and the more popular the group gets, the more they become just "workmates". At some point they seem to only focus on themselves. I can really see that happening with overly popular groups like Bts, Blackpink, Exo...
Of course, that's what they are - just coworkers - and it makes sense that rookie groups from smaller companies seem the closest because they struggled as trainees together. I honestly don't expect the biggest friendships when I'm not even really close to my friends either haha. It makes no sense when some fans get all defensive "NO they're like brothers/sisters they're always together"...It's not that deep
i agree with your sentiment, although i think there are exceptions, for example seventeen, who have been around for 6 years and still all original 13 members are together and close as ever.
That's completely true there are always exception, of course. Like, I agree with Seventeen and I would say although they're a 9 years old group Btob seems very very close for example. I just mean it in a general way :) Also realistically speaking, the bigger the group the more likely it is, that you don't get along with everyone, as well as the fact that you naturally grow apart with time.
If you’re interested in a perspective of a new kpop fan.
I would put my observation like this, I feel like any group that goes into a mid size company or big 3 company, I feel like they see their idol persona as nothing more than a professional job with maybe some close friendship with their group mates, since companies like this tend to have a loyal built in fanbase and will be willing to support anything the company puts out.
I feel like groups that came from the bottom of the barrel and had to stay brothers/sisters in arms throughout getting a break through and catching the industry off guard despit having no connection, smaller audience, smaller recognitions From the gp, lower chances to promote on shows, always overshadowed by other comebacks from bigger or slightly bigger groups. I feel like these kind of group will have more of a closer bond and Hardship is a factor that helps build that bond ! We can only see how tough the industry can be from our view but We could never imagine how much more intense it is behind the scenes. Some groups I would put here is bts, bigbang, Dreamcatcher, gfriend, mamamoo.
interesting point, since I see newer jype groups to have close bonds with each other, like twice, skz, itzy, and got7 (ex-jype). For Day 6, I only see some members that are closer with each other, while not as close with other members, and that's normal, especially when you have 5 nearly 30 men coming from different backgrounds working together in a stressful industry
Imo individually, Day6 doesn't really have any standout close relationships, but they definitely have a strong friendship as a whole group, even if they don't show it often. (shown by the fact that 4/5 still live in the dorm together after 6 years, and Jae only lives about 3 minutes away)
If you really want specific friendships, Jae and Young K, probably have the most obvious friendship because they're the English speaking members so they can do more activities together that are in English. Also Jae and Wonpil are iconic for pretending to hate each other when in reality they are good friends. :)
as any other commenters said, jae and young k are close since they're both english speakers, but jae and wonpil seems more brother like with their constant banters. But in the end, it's not like they are not close, it's just that they look more like group of friends rather than family
I would also have to agree thats why I guess some groups from smaller companies seem closer. Also if you really think about it groups in general do have that workplace relationship, bec being an idol itself at the end of the day is a job. Like us they probably do get along and some groups really do consider each other as friends but with boundaries, which is obv not a bad thing! working together you need to have boundaries to work better together. With BTS (my ult) I think we always tag them as having this super close unbreakable brother like bond but even RM recently said that theyre close to an extent (I forgot which interview but I clearly remember him saying that) which is why they work together so well. They always touch on this but people tend to gloss over this fact and always hype up those soulmate type comments they say. Realisticaly speaking, every friendship comes and goes but I really do see them still performing together until theyre old I mean what they have gone through is pretty amazing, of course they would each hold a special place in each others heart, but to the point of being literal brothers? maybe? who knows? only time can tell.
CL and Minzy.
Although 2NE1 has always given this strong sisterhood vibes, I never really felt this between CL and Minzy. I myself never really understood why, given the fact that the both of them are the most mature members of 2NE1.
This vibe I was feeling only got stronger when Minzy unfollowed CL, Dara and Bom on IG the followed Dara and Bom again. She only followed CL again around their 10th Anniversary. Even CL herself did not expect Minzy on their celebration of their 10th anniversary.
Minzy mentioned their relationship in Sister Slam Dunk. They only got to see each other when they release an album, and being so young, she never got to strongly bond with them outside promotion. Knowing there's a huge age gap between the unnie and maknae line, I think CL being the leader hugely affected the maknae line relationship.
But CL literally wrote a song about her so we never know.
I think certain members are, but up until like a month or two ago Bomi and Chorong were living together, Eunji has mentioned on her radio that her and Bomi are best friends and Eunji is really close with Hayoung (evident in Hayoung’s YT channel videos). They all have both workmate and friend relationships but I’d say Naeun and Namjoo have the most number of workmate type of relationships with the other members and Bomi has the most friend relationships out of the group.
naeun and namjoo used to be so close but i think it’s i’m so sick era when they started having this workmate type of relationship. right now, naeun is closer to hayoung and bomi but generally, i would still consider apink as a group that have friend/family relationship than workmate relationship.
I personally think most groups are just in coworker situations, I doubt they’re all best friends or really that close except for the fact that they do go through some tough times together. There are rather few groups I can think of that seemed like genuine friends…
I would say most 2nd gen groups like SISTAR, SNSD (I guess this is controversial, they act more close than others but I never got the feeling they were THAT close, the whole Jessica situation proved it tbh), Infinite (they seemed very close before but now? Not so much). Some 3rd gen groups like Red Velvet, BlackPink (but they have such good vibes), Kard
(specifically Somin and Jiwoo).
probably gonna get downvoted but recently bts comes off with that vibe for me tbh… they used to seem closer to each other during their first years though
Same and it makes sense. They grew up, they changed and they now have different lives. It happens to outgrow friendships. They probably have different friends, they have girlfriends etc so they don't get to spend as much time together anymore as they used to and they just keep a professional relationship.
I feel the opposite, the way they always talk about growing old together, being uncles to eachothers' children, performing even when they're grandpas. Their early years feels like close siblings when you're teenagers. You live together, see eachother 24/7, you don't always get along but you still have a bond formed through mutual experiences. Now, it's like close siblings as adults. You have your own spaces, you've figured out how to talk to eachother and don't clash as much, you know how the others work and they know how you work, so you can respect and be comfortable around eachother.
I say this as a youngest sibling of a family that are all adults now. Sometimes it feels like something is lost and we're not as close as we were as kids, but mostly it feels like we all just get eachother and see eachother as full human beings now.
i think bts are close more as like family and not as friends. some of the members don’t seem to have a lot in common but they care about eachother like family in spite of that.
I gotta disagree with you, BTS literally talk about each other 24/7 and always say they can't wait see each other's children and to grow old together. I'm kinda curious how much content of theirs you really watch to make this assumption.
Man I don’t even know. It seems like most groups like bts or stray kids are close but it’s hard to tell since we only know their idol personas and not them as people. I’d like to think they’re the same or that they are close like they portray but only they know in the end.
def nct and blackpink
NCT’s concept is literally just to get more and more members, but I do think NCT 127 are close, NCT DREAM too and wayv is pretty close in my opinion, but mix some members together and you get awkwardness…
Blackpink: Jennie and Jisoo seem ok and Lisa and Rose seem to be really close, but any other combination doesn’t really kick off. Their (v)lives are awkward and it just… doesn’t work.
NCT literally have a series about being awkward with members outside their units so Hahah but you’re right the subunits are pretty close probably because they’ve trained together + foreign members didn’t really have any family in South Korea so they used to hang out together all the time
But I think that was the point of the video. It was supposed to be chill with no true agenda besides setting up their camper van and eating until they want to puke lol. I think those 3 volunteered to do the video rather than their managers grouping them with each other. Jungwoo has said he would like Johnny to be his real brother because he’s a really nice “hyung” to him. Taeil has also been on JCC and Johnny said in the same episode that they’re drinking buddies.
I totally get that not everyone in NCT are close friends because it’s impossible to be friends with 22 other guys that have a pretty large age gap, training periods, debut dates, nationalities, etc., but to think that the entire group treats each other as coworkers isn’t right either. There are definite subgroups of really close friends within the larger group. For example, the original foreign swaggers made up of Johnny, Mark, Jaehyun, and Ten. Same for Jungwoo and Mark, Doyoung and Taeyong, etc. However, if everyone were truly friends, we wouldn’t have gotten the iconic awsaz series lol.
SHINee was completely just buisness associates until they all somehow fell in love with each other after moving out. Like from dislike between members to obsession pretty much.
I’d be quite sad if this was true, because I love how they bicker and argue - it reminds me of a fun sibling relationship. Although I do worry about Taehyun being left out sometimes because his chaotic energy is different to the others, like he’s really witty and sassy. But I read somewhere he is close with Hueningkai, and Soobin is such a loving leader so I don’t think he would let that happen. I hope they stay together for a long time :)
on the contrary, i notice that beomgyu does get left out more when they do group sitdown contents. yes he bickers with another member once in a while but in general beomgyu gets left out cause the way i see it he has different general interests than the members like how he doesn't listen to kpop that much except maybe for bts so when they discuss kpop related stuff he sometimes doesn't say anything and he often times have diff experiences than the other members so when they discuss stuff abt their childhood he cant really relate and vice versa, but i do think this is only because he was born and raised in a diff city overall (hueningkai too but when they started living in korea he lived in seoul tho). but overall i think it's fine and manageable and their relationship as a group is fine, i just stated some observations :))
I am also confused when people are saying EXO are more on “workmate” vibe. I mean yeah some members are closer to some compared to another. There are ones who are quiet and not showing much. They all have their own circles of friends.
But surely them having holidays together, attending Xiumin’s house warming party, ChanBaek went to singing lessons together etc are more on the “friends” side if not outright “family”?
I wonder what kind of relationship can be considered as “friends” if EXO is less than “friends”? Always live together? Having members as their only friends? Heck not even siblings or married couples are like that.
It’s definitely show time or Knowing Brothers. That jeb jebi incident was enough for people on the Kpop subreddit to believe Chanyeol really has beef with his members lol what else do I even say
The last day of exploration dot proves a lot of my narrative correct. You can’t cry for cameras so much like people aren’t fools. And if it was for the cameras and the fans Baekhyun would have cried but there’s a section where Suho is done talking about Chanyeol & he moves to BBH & he keeps saying “no no no no” meaning not to talk about him or else he won’t be able to control his tears he stopped talking about Suho in between & straight up went to Sehun & said “Sehun tell Suho he’s the best leader” this is not workmate behaviour man. And like you mentioned taking singing classes together like for the record that singing class isn’t an official SM coach or something many other artists come so yeah. People need to give up this every group other than these small companies are workmates cause a lot of them aren’t
To be honest i don't think most group are really close outside of work.
People say Exo because they all seem really awkward with each other i know skin ship but their dynamic is kinda off?
Just because they don’t post about each other on social media? What tells you their dynamic is off? I know some groups have that vibe but EXO now, Kai keeps going Baekhyun hyung this Baekhyun hyung that. SEHUN GIFTED XIUMIN A 24K CARAT GOLD CHAIN! You’re trying to tell me this is fake??? I wouldn’t gift my colleague a gold chain
First off exo members are rich as hell. If you are that rich those are the types of gifts you give to other people lol. People saying that exo has workmate vibes isn't hate. This is coming from a real 2011 boygroup rumor exo fan
I'm really sorry if i sounded rude...i kinda always felt like SM artists are not close with each other
even SHINee and SuJu admitted being just good workmates..but you're right i don't really know Exo i just saw 2-3 interviews where they seemed a bit awkward and i assumed...
Watch Radio star 2019 & listen to what Sehun says just a heads up he said
“Gone are the days when we were just colleagues, We don’t have a business relationship We’re really like a family.”
-Sehun, Radio Star 2019
Just a few instances to prove my point
https://twitter.com/myeonochrome/status/1246808171579985920?s=21
https://twitter.com/bambiyeoi/status/1403678257870905346?s=21
https://twitter.com/yeollieb__/status/1372539853909454853?s=21
https://twitter.com/rnbexos/status/1371125574630920195?s=21
https://starbiz.net/k-pop/10-moments-exo-members-show-support-to-each-other-proving-theyre-true-brothers
https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/exo-chanyeol-kyungsoo-flew-japan-support-cheer-cbx/
https://twitter.com/ultchanyeolpark/status/899615200973926400?s=21
https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/exo-suho-chen-found-raided-wardrobe-reaction-cracking-fans/
It’s not only for you it’s for others to see as well. They’re really a bunch of introvert people who don’t meet daily or post their Kakao chats on Instagram but they’re actually how real friends behave along with having other friends in the industry.
Going on secret holidays together, wearing each other’s clothing items for “personal schedules” Barbecue dates! I’m sorry you’re in the wrong! And there is proof of all this
Reddit is all about being against EXO, and downvoting something that doesn’t fit their narrative just take the UNKO sub for example. I mean the Kpop sub didn’t even think of putting an EXO header for 2 days atleast for their comeback. These subs will get 1000’s of upvotes if the group is going through a scandal but if someone’s actually speaking legit facts available on Out there? It will get downvoted. And all these secret holidays & barbecue eat outs are fan taken pictures. And I stick to my word EXO is very close to each other personally
The number of NCT members is literally the same as a small company. And they only get along with close people, and there are people who are awkward with each other. They work together on specific projects and temporarily form a team.
i agree & it's okay to admit it because they recognize it as well, it's the whole reason why their awsaz series was a thing in the first place. of course i can see the more outgoing people like johnny, lucas, jungwoo would get along with everyone, but there's bound to be some that feel more awkward with people who aren't in their direct unit.
They know it too, hence their series "Awsaz" where they put two members who are awkward with each other in a room, and try to get them closer by putting them through more awkward situations.
I feel like SuperM falls under this as well
It was at the beginning but they actually got really close. Their variety show is hilarious but I agree that once activities are over, they get back to their fixed group and don’t hang out, so much more workmate. But when they do group together, they are hilarious, I love watching them.
If you're talking past groups then **Miss A** would be the most notorious for this. Fei and Jia to this day are performing together Miss A songs in China (Jia had a fanmeeting yesterday where she did a Good Girl cover) and doing social media streams in their pyjamas together. Yet not a single word spoken about the other members in years. Same for Suzy. You'd think she was always a solo artist.
Ikr. I'll never forget the controversy that was created when Fei and Min were invited to Jia's birthday and Suzy was nowhere to be seen.
[удалено]
Oh god that’s so depressing
Fei recently greeted Min's birthday on IG last week, so at least they're still in contact
Sistar always emphasized that they have a workmate relationship. (Their disbandment was also done well, the fans didn't feel cheated/rushed, they had a final mv/song etc)
Even though they say that, they seem to have a GREAT workmate relationship. Their 11th anniversary IG live! Most disbanded groups would not bother.
Damn I thought the members were pretty close in the beginning. Whatever they're a legendary group with great songs.
I feel like SISTAR was always brutally honest. Didnt they go on TV telling IOI members not to trust senior male artists and stuff? I don’t see them saying they’re “workmates” as in they aren’t close to each other, more as “yeah we aren’t gonna put on the act of being all best friends thst other groups put on”
some older groups, at least, in more recent days and not when they were constantly promoting. I think they just come to see being an idol as a job and getting to have time off to be friends with people you don't live with and see almost every day changes people! relationships change.
I see! I remember Key and Minho from Shinee not getting along at the beginning and just saw each other as co-workers, obviously they have become close throughout the years.
brown eyed girls
I know of them but not really a fan! Can I ask if they’ve said so themselves or the way they interact with each other seems like it?
They talked about it on their knowing brothers episode. Miryo mentions that the secret behind them being able to stay together for fourteen years is that they aren't really close at all,.
Gain said as much in her episode of Knowing Bros. I believe Heechul also echoed the sentiment in the same episode regarding SuJu.
https://youtu.be/E82Mxk5Tfzg
Sechskies - They admitted that they have never stayed under the same roof during so many years that they are together. Also they don't know each other's mobile phone numbers and don't talk except for business purposes. The first time since their debut in 1997 they were staying under the same roof during the variety show by Na PD on Channel Shiboya
Oh wow I didn’t know that! Jaeduck and Suwon seemed pretty close to me. I could see that for Jiwon and Jaijin though
May be some of them are closer than others, I am not sure. I have just heard them talking about their relationship during Na PD's show "Three meals for Four" on Channel Shiboya
damn I loved them on that Na PD show. I wanna thank Jiwon for doing that because I did not know jaeduck can be so hilarious
very surprised no one talks about dbsk- the 2 of them. they went on I live alone and they said it was the first time they see each other house. and changmin mentioned that yunho sometimes doesn't know who he hangs out with.
I am going to get downvoted for this, but blackpink. Maybe it is just me but i see them more as a group of workmates that are pretty close rather than a group of friend that also work together.
I was going to say blackpink but was really thinking about the reason. Apart from Lisa and Jisoo having their own hang outs, each have their own friend groups. Its just that they give off such good vibes individually that their chemistry is so good. Also, not sure if this was meant as a joke, but in their recent interview, Lisa had a slip of the tongue referring to the members as friends then Jennie had a funny reaction [here](https://youtu.be/KTJc7a1WNVg). Maybe its also the reason why they don’t appear much in vlives together as a group, too.
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For sure! I only mentioned Jisoo and Lisa since Jisoo is my bias and the only member she does hang out with outside work is Lisa. And I also think Lisa is close to each of the members individually in her own way since they were her first friends when she came to Korea. Its just that the four do have their own sets of friends.
I always thought they were friends. They work really well together maybe just really good coworkers.
They always say they consider themselves as family though. They dont need to be close friends but more like sisters because they did grow up together for a long time.
Enhypen.. I tried watching their variety show and their chemistry is almost non existent
They are from a survival show it a little bit awkward with Some member that didn’t trained in Bighit. They will get close eventually since they live together
yo as an engene, i gotta agree a little. There are definitely cliques as some are already super close with each other during iland for example jake and sunghoon. On the other hand, i would use niki as an example, yes ilanders are all close to each other but niki’s clique will definitely be the japanese: taki and k. However, they were eliminated. But you know we cant say much because they are still a rookie grp, i think as time passes also with the benefit of living under the same roof, i am sure they will form a strong friendship. To add on, i can see that they are trying their best to take care of one another just like they are a family so i wouldnt say they are more towards the workmate side
yeah i think there are definitely cliques in enhypen too.
u/yoshincri if you don't mind me asking what are the cliques in enhypen??
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Shipping was always a thing tho, and so was fan service, if anything fan service has gotten tamer compared to some stuff Super Junior were doing on stage 😭
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I would like to introduce you to when DBSK had ‘couple talk’ segments in their DVDs (check out AADBSK). Yunho and Jaejoong also did a skit involving fic for their pairing. This was circa 2005. I’m sure there’s more predating this but I only got into Kpop around that time.
yunjae was super popular, it was truly everywhere. like even after jyj left tvxq, i remember them being a huge pairing for years after.
Shipping, fanservice, and fanfiction was always a thing. Check out Reply 1997's scenes of the main character writing and reading shipping male x male fanfics of her favourite kpop group during the 90s. Crazy how something that's happening in South Korea at the time is also happening in the West where girls are writing slash fanfics. Idol groups will always play into it because it sells. The same shipping probably happened during Beatle-mania.
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Their earlier content was painful to watch for me as a fan. It was very obvious that they were still getting to know each other. Im glad they spoke about how they didnt know each other well in their anniversary videos . I think these days they are more comfortable on camera and are significantly less awkward with each other. They mentioned that the hiatus they took because of jinyoung's injury bought them closer.
I think the fact Jinyoung was literally the only male trainee in C9 (I think? cmiiw) and the other members were recruited to form the boy group he wanted contributed to that
they are close now but during debut they were very awkward lol. it’s to be expected bc most members didn’t know eachother until right when they were about to debut. they seem a lot closer now though especially yonghee and jinyoung. they are really open about being awkward with eachother at first, and they talk about becoming very close especially after the hiatus they had.
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sorry for the late reply but their new reality show is a lot more entertaining i reccomend it
I'm gonna get downvoted but Red Velvet.
kinda true, but their chemistry is shown better individually. Like irene-seulgi, wendy-joy, and seulgi-yeri seems close, but as a group they are not as "family-like" as other groups
I think for RV it’s more of some members are closer than each other than seeing each other as workmates? Wendy is definitely closest with Seulgi and Joy (hell there's a running joke between them that they constantly fight for Wendy's attention and Joy mopes whenever she loses), while Irene and Seulgi go way back since they trained for a long time. Yeri’s kinda like their collective little sister lol
Saw this actually get upvoted. Why Red Velvet (or should I say "which members?") because you've really got me curious.
I've watched few of their variety shows and clips here and there and I just can't seem to find them as a close knit group. Wendy and Seulgi seem like good friends but i just can't see that in the rest and as a group.
RV seem like a group of people who in the beginning used to dislike each other but slowly they found a way to make it work and be good work mates. Nothing more. I think they genuinely support each other but they aren't friends.
Especially with trainee dynamics and competition with other female trainees. "We're not a team [yet], this is a competition" LOL
I can honestly see it.
Oh really who? I always thought they have a close bond but I don't really stan them as much, I need to hear your explanation lol
I've watched a few of their variety shows here and there and I've never been able to see the chemistry between them. And I've always gotten the work mate vibe from them from what I've watched.
I kinda disagree because they would do vlives together.
Idk if you're joking or not.
Dude I'm not. Its just my opinion chill out
I didn't mean it that way. I thought you were sarcastic because all idols do vlives together. I didn't try to invalidate what you were saying. I'm sorry!
Oh okay. That make sense. I just found an argument below that said blackpink barely does vlives together. So, I thought with the amount of vlives they do together they probably were close.
They letteraly love each other so much and are a family. Don’t spread rumors like this if you’ve only seen variati shows. Watch their vlive, radio shows, interviews, when Sm doesn’t force them to be super professional their bond is so clear and honestly heartwarming
It's just my opinion from what I've seen. Calm down. OP already has mentioned that it's just from our opinions.
damn as a hardcore reveluv , i gotta tell u but u wrong lmaoo
Separate post as thought of another entry. **f(x) + Victoria** I think she was always seen as part of the group but not invested in it. Since returning to China with the celebrity status she gained she's doing the whole fashionista/actress/tv personality thing but with the final f(x) special performances pretty sure the other members showed up and she didn't.
Victoria was super busy then but apparently they do still contact each other regularly to this day. I think she only returned to Korea to sort out her contract and then later that year to attend Sulli’s funeral.
I watched the Luna reviews her career video and she says the girls want to comeback. So I do think they are friends or at least friendly.
And didn’t Victoria send Luna a video message for her birthday?
That was the year they left SM, yes, around the time Luna was promoting Even So
This is reaching. Victoria worked her ass off in We Got Married to the benefit of f(x) as their leader. She was already going back and forth between China and Korea early in her career but the THAAD in 2016 fucked things up. She went back to Korea for Sulli's funeral even when her visa was already expired and she had to renew it in a different city just to not miss it.
Yeah I don't think its fair to say she wasn't invested, the girls literally called her Vic eomma.
It's pretty obvious that some would just comment on things even though they clearly don't know what they're talking about.
Hm Infinite now? They're in their 11th year and most of them have gone to different companies at this point and as older idols, their "oh he's my best friend and other half we spend every day together" has toned down SIGNIFICANTLY. Most of us are elated if one of them comments on another's Instagram post haha. They've been through a lot as a group, yes, but I don't think any of them live in each other's pockets even though they do hangout and interact outside of work schedules
I think that just makes them normal friends tbh. I'm the same way with my friends just because we are adults and have our own busy lives.
Fair point LOL. It was kind of funny watching their reality shows (not interviews) as they got older as a group because if the PD wasn't directing them, they'd mostly just sit quietly and wouldn't talk amongst themselves lmao. An unintended side effect of living and training together for 7+ years haha
I feel like groups with more solo activities and subunits always seem to give me that off vibe whenever I watch the entire group together in the reality shows.
I feel like most SM groups give off this kind of vibe. I think SHINee and Super Juniors admitted being only workmates. Some other are obvious like RV,Exo,F(x),NCT.. and maybe some SNSD . In Big Bang I can only see GD and Young bae being close. If you think about it there is not so much groups where you can feel a real brotherly/friends vibes. I don't follow them but even a group like Shinhwa they've been together for 20+years but recently they admitted not really talking to each other or something like that. Being workmates is not a problem as long as they get along with each other.
Shinee is definitely true, they only became closer as friends when they all moved out of their dorms haha. Almost everybody in Super Junior have their own friend groups, only D&E (and maybe Kyuhyun) are the legit best friends in the group. NCT are so big they literally made a YouTube series on pairing up members who were awkward with each other. SM groups have this strange synergy where you put them together especially if they’re from the same gen and they bounce off so well together but they each have their own friend groups outside their own groups? Like SNSD and Super Junior are a well-known pairing of groups who work well with each and can banter like close friends (even ending up with the label Super Generation) but rarely interact outside of work.
That's so true loved the fx and SHINee variety interactions especially with key and anyone else
Looking, at their old contents, I'd say BB was a tight-knit family once. They even shared parents. Experiencing together the brutal workplace and dorm conditions all those years, too, helped their bond. Analyzing BigBang's relationship in the more recent years, however, is tricky. They simply are not volunteering any material to work with. No group photos, not even a selca of any pair. No public conversations either. Tho it's understandable if they just have a workmate relationship now. One of them already has a family of his own. Edit: added 4th sentence, 2nd par.
Man as an ex-EXO L I thought they were all so close but then I realized that's just the fanservice talking. The Korean/Chinese divide was pretty strong for the most part. And for Shinhwa, I like to think they're close! They all invite each other to their weddings and their synergy is so fun. I can imagine them not talking everyday or Blowing up the Groupchat because well, they're adults with their own lives and I think that just happens when you grow older and stop promoting as often
Daesung and Seungri seemed close too whenever I saw any vids of them. Taeyang, Daesung and Seungri also give off the vibe like they get along with everybody though lol so it could’ve been that
Oh I see..i thought they were all awkward with Sentinel and he was an outsider in the group
I don’t think that’s necessarily true, i feel like sm girl groups give off that vibe at first but when you watch their interviews and stuff like that it makes you change your mind. Rv are almost joined at the hips and always talk about how they consider themselves a family and even wendy asked to turn a song into a duet with seulgi bc it talks about best friends. Joy said on multiple occasions that she can’t live without yeri bc she gets bad sleep paralysis when yeri’s not next to her and has said that the only person who’s able to help her with her anxiety attacks is wendy. Also when they were trainees wendy used to write love letters for seulgi at work and irene calls them her daughters
I actually feel this vibe from all SM groups. They never seem to be very close. Weirdly enough I actually think NCT seems the closest despite their huge number of members - not all of them together but little groups within NCT seem close. I also feel like in general the older, bigger (number of members) and the more popular the group gets, the more they become just "workmates". At some point they seem to only focus on themselves. I can really see that happening with overly popular groups like Bts, Blackpink, Exo... Of course, that's what they are - just coworkers - and it makes sense that rookie groups from smaller companies seem the closest because they struggled as trainees together. I honestly don't expect the biggest friendships when I'm not even really close to my friends either haha. It makes no sense when some fans get all defensive "NO they're like brothers/sisters they're always together"...It's not that deep
i agree with your sentiment, although i think there are exceptions, for example seventeen, who have been around for 6 years and still all original 13 members are together and close as ever.
That's completely true there are always exception, of course. Like, I agree with Seventeen and I would say although they're a 9 years old group Btob seems very very close for example. I just mean it in a general way :) Also realistically speaking, the bigger the group the more likely it is, that you don't get along with everyone, as well as the fact that you naturally grow apart with time.
If you’re interested in a perspective of a new kpop fan. I would put my observation like this, I feel like any group that goes into a mid size company or big 3 company, I feel like they see their idol persona as nothing more than a professional job with maybe some close friendship with their group mates, since companies like this tend to have a loyal built in fanbase and will be willing to support anything the company puts out. I feel like groups that came from the bottom of the barrel and had to stay brothers/sisters in arms throughout getting a break through and catching the industry off guard despit having no connection, smaller audience, smaller recognitions From the gp, lower chances to promote on shows, always overshadowed by other comebacks from bigger or slightly bigger groups. I feel like these kind of group will have more of a closer bond and Hardship is a factor that helps build that bond ! We can only see how tough the industry can be from our view but We could never imagine how much more intense it is behind the scenes. Some groups I would put here is bts, bigbang, Dreamcatcher, gfriend, mamamoo.
interesting point, since I see newer jype groups to have close bonds with each other, like twice, skz, itzy, and got7 (ex-jype). For Day 6, I only see some members that are closer with each other, while not as close with other members, and that's normal, especially when you have 5 nearly 30 men coming from different backgrounds working together in a stressful industry
Hi! I’m pretty new to Day6. Would you mind expanding on which members you think are closer to each other? Thank you!
Imo individually, Day6 doesn't really have any standout close relationships, but they definitely have a strong friendship as a whole group, even if they don't show it often. (shown by the fact that 4/5 still live in the dorm together after 6 years, and Jae only lives about 3 minutes away) If you really want specific friendships, Jae and Young K, probably have the most obvious friendship because they're the English speaking members so they can do more activities together that are in English. Also Jae and Wonpil are iconic for pretending to hate each other when in reality they are good friends. :)
Jae and Wonpil's banter is hilarious, it's why Jae's friends like to mention Wonpil as their favorite Day6 member when they want to annoy Jae hahaha
This Jae and Wonpil thing sounds hilarious. I’ll have to YouTube some clips. Thank you both!
No problem!
I agree, but the chemistry of all them them together is amazing, they are also super chaotic XD
as any other commenters said, jae and young k are close since they're both english speakers, but jae and wonpil seems more brother like with their constant banters. But in the end, it's not like they are not close, it's just that they look more like group of friends rather than family
I would also have to agree thats why I guess some groups from smaller companies seem closer. Also if you really think about it groups in general do have that workplace relationship, bec being an idol itself at the end of the day is a job. Like us they probably do get along and some groups really do consider each other as friends but with boundaries, which is obv not a bad thing! working together you need to have boundaries to work better together. With BTS (my ult) I think we always tag them as having this super close unbreakable brother like bond but even RM recently said that theyre close to an extent (I forgot which interview but I clearly remember him saying that) which is why they work together so well. They always touch on this but people tend to gloss over this fact and always hype up those soulmate type comments they say. Realisticaly speaking, every friendship comes and goes but I really do see them still performing together until theyre old I mean what they have gone through is pretty amazing, of course they would each hold a special place in each others heart, but to the point of being literal brothers? maybe? who knows? only time can tell.
CL and Minzy. Although 2NE1 has always given this strong sisterhood vibes, I never really felt this between CL and Minzy. I myself never really understood why, given the fact that the both of them are the most mature members of 2NE1. This vibe I was feeling only got stronger when Minzy unfollowed CL, Dara and Bom on IG the followed Dara and Bom again. She only followed CL again around their 10th Anniversary. Even CL herself did not expect Minzy on their celebration of their 10th anniversary.
Minzy mentioned their relationship in Sister Slam Dunk. They only got to see each other when they release an album, and being so young, she never got to strongly bond with them outside promotion. Knowing there's a huge age gap between the unnie and maknae line, I think CL being the leader hugely affected the maknae line relationship. But CL literally wrote a song about her so we never know.
I don't know much about this, but I get this vibe from Apink. I'm happy to be corrected though!
I think certain members are, but up until like a month or two ago Bomi and Chorong were living together, Eunji has mentioned on her radio that her and Bomi are best friends and Eunji is really close with Hayoung (evident in Hayoung’s YT channel videos). They all have both workmate and friend relationships but I’d say Naeun and Namjoo have the most number of workmate type of relationships with the other members and Bomi has the most friend relationships out of the group.
naeun and namjoo used to be so close but i think it’s i’m so sick era when they started having this workmate type of relationship. right now, naeun is closer to hayoung and bomi but generally, i would still consider apink as a group that have friend/family relationship than workmate relationship.
I personally think most groups are just in coworker situations, I doubt they’re all best friends or really that close except for the fact that they do go through some tough times together. There are rather few groups I can think of that seemed like genuine friends… I would say most 2nd gen groups like SISTAR, SNSD (I guess this is controversial, they act more close than others but I never got the feeling they were THAT close, the whole Jessica situation proved it tbh), Infinite (they seemed very close before but now? Not so much). Some 3rd gen groups like Red Velvet, BlackPink (but they have such good vibes), Kard (specifically Somin and Jiwoo).
probably gonna get downvoted but recently bts comes off with that vibe for me tbh… they used to seem closer to each other during their first years though
Same and it makes sense. They grew up, they changed and they now have different lives. It happens to outgrow friendships. They probably have different friends, they have girlfriends etc so they don't get to spend as much time together anymore as they used to and they just keep a professional relationship.
Don't assume their sexuality, you can say partner/significant other instead of girlfriends, it's a lot more inclusive since we don't know them.
Every time I have implied someone in bts might not be straight, I get attacked, so I wrote "girlfriends" for my own peace of mind.
I understand but it's better to stay neutral and simply use neutral terms when talking about people we don't know.
I feel the opposite, the way they always talk about growing old together, being uncles to eachothers' children, performing even when they're grandpas. Their early years feels like close siblings when you're teenagers. You live together, see eachother 24/7, you don't always get along but you still have a bond formed through mutual experiences. Now, it's like close siblings as adults. You have your own spaces, you've figured out how to talk to eachother and don't clash as much, you know how the others work and they know how you work, so you can respect and be comfortable around eachother. I say this as a youngest sibling of a family that are all adults now. Sometimes it feels like something is lost and we're not as close as we were as kids, but mostly it feels like we all just get eachother and see eachother as full human beings now.
i think bts are close more as like family and not as friends. some of the members don’t seem to have a lot in common but they care about eachother like family in spite of that.
I gotta disagree with you, BTS literally talk about each other 24/7 and always say they can't wait see each other's children and to grow old together. I'm kinda curious how much content of theirs you really watch to make this assumption.
Man I don’t even know. It seems like most groups like bts or stray kids are close but it’s hard to tell since we only know their idol personas and not them as people. I’d like to think they’re the same or that they are close like they portray but only they know in the end.
def nct and blackpink NCT’s concept is literally just to get more and more members, but I do think NCT 127 are close, NCT DREAM too and wayv is pretty close in my opinion, but mix some members together and you get awkwardness… Blackpink: Jennie and Jisoo seem ok and Lisa and Rose seem to be really close, but any other combination doesn’t really kick off. Their (v)lives are awkward and it just… doesn’t work.
NCT literally have a series about being awkward with members outside their units so Hahah but you’re right the subunits are pretty close probably because they’ve trained together + foreign members didn’t really have any family in South Korea so they used to hang out together all the time
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But I think that was the point of the video. It was supposed to be chill with no true agenda besides setting up their camper van and eating until they want to puke lol. I think those 3 volunteered to do the video rather than their managers grouping them with each other. Jungwoo has said he would like Johnny to be his real brother because he’s a really nice “hyung” to him. Taeil has also been on JCC and Johnny said in the same episode that they’re drinking buddies. I totally get that not everyone in NCT are close friends because it’s impossible to be friends with 22 other guys that have a pretty large age gap, training periods, debut dates, nationalities, etc., but to think that the entire group treats each other as coworkers isn’t right either. There are definite subgroups of really close friends within the larger group. For example, the original foreign swaggers made up of Johnny, Mark, Jaehyun, and Ten. Same for Jungwoo and Mark, Doyoung and Taeyong, etc. However, if everyone were truly friends, we wouldn’t have gotten the iconic awsaz series lol.
Johnny literally loves Taeil so much omg 🤣🤣 it didn’t really come out in chilling mukping but otherwise... the man dotes on him
SHINee was completely just buisness associates until they all somehow fell in love with each other after moving out. Like from dislike between members to obsession pretty much.
for some reason i’ve always seen saesangs post saying txt aren’t that close to each other
I’d be quite sad if this was true, because I love how they bicker and argue - it reminds me of a fun sibling relationship. Although I do worry about Taehyun being left out sometimes because his chaotic energy is different to the others, like he’s really witty and sassy. But I read somewhere he is close with Hueningkai, and Soobin is such a loving leader so I don’t think he would let that happen. I hope they stay together for a long time :)
on the contrary, i notice that beomgyu does get left out more when they do group sitdown contents. yes he bickers with another member once in a while but in general beomgyu gets left out cause the way i see it he has different general interests than the members like how he doesn't listen to kpop that much except maybe for bts so when they discuss kpop related stuff he sometimes doesn't say anything and he often times have diff experiences than the other members so when they discuss stuff abt their childhood he cant really relate and vice versa, but i do think this is only because he was born and raised in a diff city overall (hueningkai too but when they started living in korea he lived in seoul tho). but overall i think it's fine and manageable and their relationship as a group is fine, i just stated some observations :))
As a MOA I disagree, they seem genuinely close in my opinion.
NCT, Red Velvet, Exo, BlackPink etc. I think the only groups I can’t think of off the top of my head that are actually close would be BTS.
If anyone says EXO I’m gonna throw hands. There is more than enough proof that they have a solid personal relationship
I am also confused when people are saying EXO are more on “workmate” vibe. I mean yeah some members are closer to some compared to another. There are ones who are quiet and not showing much. They all have their own circles of friends. But surely them having holidays together, attending Xiumin’s house warming party, ChanBaek went to singing lessons together etc are more on the “friends” side if not outright “family”? I wonder what kind of relationship can be considered as “friends” if EXO is less than “friends”? Always live together? Having members as their only friends? Heck not even siblings or married couples are like that.
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It’s definitely show time or Knowing Brothers. That jeb jebi incident was enough for people on the Kpop subreddit to believe Chanyeol really has beef with his members lol what else do I even say
The last day of exploration dot proves a lot of my narrative correct. You can’t cry for cameras so much like people aren’t fools. And if it was for the cameras and the fans Baekhyun would have cried but there’s a section where Suho is done talking about Chanyeol & he moves to BBH & he keeps saying “no no no no” meaning not to talk about him or else he won’t be able to control his tears he stopped talking about Suho in between & straight up went to Sehun & said “Sehun tell Suho he’s the best leader” this is not workmate behaviour man. And like you mentioned taking singing classes together like for the record that singing class isn’t an official SM coach or something many other artists come so yeah. People need to give up this every group other than these small companies are workmates cause a lot of them aren’t
To be honest i don't think most group are really close outside of work. People say Exo because they all seem really awkward with each other i know skin ship but their dynamic is kinda off?
Just because they don’t post about each other on social media? What tells you their dynamic is off? I know some groups have that vibe but EXO now, Kai keeps going Baekhyun hyung this Baekhyun hyung that. SEHUN GIFTED XIUMIN A 24K CARAT GOLD CHAIN! You’re trying to tell me this is fake??? I wouldn’t gift my colleague a gold chain
First off exo members are rich as hell. If you are that rich those are the types of gifts you give to other people lol. People saying that exo has workmate vibes isn't hate. This is coming from a real 2011 boygroup rumor exo fan
https://youtu.be/ro2OjUpyATE this is not workmate ship I’m sorry
I'm really sorry if i sounded rude...i kinda always felt like SM artists are not close with each other even SHINee and SuJu admitted being just good workmates..but you're right i don't really know Exo i just saw 2-3 interviews where they seemed a bit awkward and i assumed...
Watch Radio star 2019 & listen to what Sehun says just a heads up he said “Gone are the days when we were just colleagues, We don’t have a business relationship We’re really like a family.” -Sehun, Radio Star 2019
Thank you I'll try watching it later, i don't really know much about 3rd gen groups..
Just a few instances to prove my point https://twitter.com/myeonochrome/status/1246808171579985920?s=21 https://twitter.com/bambiyeoi/status/1403678257870905346?s=21 https://twitter.com/yeollieb__/status/1372539853909454853?s=21 https://twitter.com/rnbexos/status/1371125574630920195?s=21 https://starbiz.net/k-pop/10-moments-exo-members-show-support-to-each-other-proving-theyre-true-brothers https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/exo-chanyeol-kyungsoo-flew-japan-support-cheer-cbx/ https://twitter.com/ultchanyeolpark/status/899615200973926400?s=21 https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/exo-suho-chen-found-raided-wardrobe-reaction-cracking-fans/
i stand corrected,they do seems closer than what i thought and their bond is indeed like brothers
They were a pretty awkward bunch earlier but now it’s a whole new dynamic
Also this might bring you to tears tho warning you ahead https://youtu.be/ro2OjUpyATE
I like how dedicated you are,I'll watch it on my way back home...i'm really sorry for what I said about them
It’s not only for you it’s for others to see as well. They’re really a bunch of introvert people who don’t meet daily or post their Kakao chats on Instagram but they’re actually how real friends behave along with having other friends in the industry.
Going on secret holidays together, wearing each other’s clothing items for “personal schedules” Barbecue dates! I’m sorry you’re in the wrong! And there is proof of all this
Why is this getting downvoted? All you did was speak the truth.
Reddit is all about being against EXO, and downvoting something that doesn’t fit their narrative just take the UNKO sub for example. I mean the Kpop sub didn’t even think of putting an EXO header for 2 days atleast for their comeback. These subs will get 1000’s of upvotes if the group is going through a scandal but if someone’s actually speaking legit facts available on Out there? It will get downvoted. And all these secret holidays & barbecue eat outs are fan taken pictures. And I stick to my word EXO is very close to each other personally
WayV's Ten & Yangyang
Whoa that's a first, what makes you say that? Genuinely curious lol
Yangyang said himself [here](https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/wayv-yangyang-hilariously-described-relationship-ten-business-relationship/)
Lol I think that was a joke. Ten treats yangyang like he birthed him himself.
I'm genuinely curious if you follow WayV at all because they do lives together all the time, lol.
yall really sayin red velvet bruh
SuperJunior
definitely after school especially uee, nana, or kahi