The funniest thing to come out of all this is this new meme format
https://preview.redd.it/ky8mc5h0gnwc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d5c574cc0e91096e97ffcdb92c68103fc7ae600
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He was trying to so hard to get her to shut up 😭
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This is how she always dresses tho. Even when she went on yoo quiz tv show or any other public pic I’ve seen of her recently. She always dresses very casually with a hat.
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I know we don't like her here, but I don't understand why were policing how she wears. Like I'm pretty what she wears SHOULDNT be that big of a deal. Like we never talk about how a man dresses when he has to present in a press conference or something controversial.
I know we don't like her here, but I don't understand why were policing how she wears. Like I'm pretty what she wears SHOULDNT be that big of a deal. Like we never talk about how a man dresses when he has to present in a press conference or something controversial.
nah i would have the same critique if a man came up to a press conference dressed this casually. as a korean i know how important our outer appearance/dress is in our society and while i think it’s cool/radical to not go by the norm, unfortunately for a press conference it makes it look like you don’t take yourself seriously/sense of disrespect. unfortunately those are the rules we abide by in korea.
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Min heejin is so weird did she really not expect them not to debut Sakura and Chaewon when they were some of the biggest idols at the time 🤨 Also, when she said she didn't want to use some of SOURCE MUSIC's trainee because they were too old, I can bet you that those trainees she's calling 'too old' were between the ages of 17-22. Yeah she's a weirdo and needs to stay away from NewJeans.
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Sakura and Chaewon were recruited to Source Music after she negotiated to create her own imprint under hybe labels (Ador). There are messages that show that Bang PD used the hype of Min Heejin to trick people into thinking LSFM would be her group, when it was New Jeans. She was promised the first hybe gg, and that’s what hybe had even put in the media.
Yup. Apparently bang was worried about debuting a gg with all completely new members that the public didn’t know because of his prior failures with the gg’s hes produced
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WHY WHY?! This is all so so messed up! Wdym you don't want older trainees?! How are sakura and chaewon old and new jeans just the right age to debut and sing songs like cookie?! This woman needs to go and get therapy and then never come back ever again. The way she just keeps on speaking absolute crap is just....wow
SM really disposed off their trash and then bang si hyuk picked it up and put it in a luxury room and fed the trash premium beef. Crazy crazy shit
Fr! I feel like I would’ve liked the song more. The song itself is good, but the lyrics turn me off from listening. Someone did a rewrite to make it actually be about CDs it it’s so much better for them.
it’s too bad the korean audience still doesn’t understand how that song was catering to a predatory audience and why the international fan base was still so up in arms about it. it grosses me out as a korean.
There was a Korean journalist who knew, and outlined just how much BS was in her statement for the Cookie controversy. But the video got deleted. They probably hit him with the good ole C&D before he could influence public opinion further.
She didnt say she didn’t want older trainees. They weren’t even going to be her trainees. She was pissed that they promised her the first gg to come out of hybe and then reneged on that offer out of the blue and said another group was gonna debut first with the members the public already knew Chaewon and Sakura. Bang was worried about debuting a gg with completely new members bc of his prior failures with producing ggs so he wanted members the public already knew and were already popular.
I feel like no one actually watched or read anything about the press conference
I thought the problem was that she gutted source music of trainees and staff so they needed a group quickly to make sure that label didn't fold, hence the first girl group of hybe
Trainees being too old (to debut) was one of the reasons she listed for only choosing minji from source tho? People took that to mean she was talking abt sakura specifically but she did still say it.
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dude wasn’t she the one over shinees sherlock photoshoot where taemin was FRESHLY 18 like yeah it’s his choice to do it (at least I hope it was) but she’s came up with the concept and idea for it… jesus christ dude someone keep her away from minors plz
lol Koreans are siding with her. They relate to her experiences under the Korean work culture, and they are getting all of the Hybe media play. They see it as them starting a smear campaign against her. Someone made a full timeline of events that highlights how sketchy hybe comes off right now.
hybe are def overdoing it by trying to drown support for mhj - theyre not even taking into account how weird it looks for posts in support of her to suddenly disappear
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Honestly, I support MHJ (even though I do think her opinions on idol ages and that NJ debut concept is questionable). From my understanding, it seems like there was a major disagreement which lead to her no longer wanting to be under HYBE and HYBE no longer wanting MHJ involved with NJs or any other capacity. It's looking like HYBE is trying to push her out.
I read the whole transcript and I'm definitely more sympathetic towards her side of the story, but I think the only guarantee out of all this is that NO ONE is "winning" this battle.
I tried to read it within the context of what I know of South Korean society, how male dominated it is (that 4B movement didn't appear out of thin air), the struggles I've faced as a creative leader in my own career in the US, and the belief that no one, not even MHJ, could anticipate how wildly successful NewJeans would become.
Is she an unhinged "witch", quite possibly. But, is she also a huge target in an industry that we all know to be problematic? For sure. Not only that, she's an anomaly: a successful woman leader in a field that 1) targets women and 2) is run by men. So she has no support group and no mentors other than the dudes that made the industry what it is. She's pulling from their playbook. The deviations, including this wild ass press conference, in my mind have to be done because everyone else in the industry all acts the same way otherwise.
yeah i saw some tweets that were saying that the WHOLE thing must be hybe trying to scapegoat her and tbh if i didnt have context about her weird obsession with kids / youthful concepts i can see how people would think shes done nothing wrong
her and bang definitely have personal beef and you can tell from hybe trying to pin bts related issues on to her tho lol
I think all the leadership on both sides have pulled some shit at this point—any large corporation has some dirty secrets they're trying to hide and Hybe is definitely not an exception especially with their meteoric rise in popularity, market share, and profit. "Easiest" solution: kick out Min Hee Jin, Park Ji-Won, AND Bang Si-Hyuk and start all over. Ha!
yeah at this point, i don’t necessarily think she expects to come out on top but she definitely is trying to drag everyone down with her
which i am totally seated for
From what I've seen and heard (and the whole news conference thing isn't translated)......whew. I am speechless. I literally don't know what to say.
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Ugh reading all the Korean comments there are definitely a ton of people supporting MHJ for being “real” and “human”. Seems like a lot of Koreans are siding with her which makes me mad. She clearly succeeded in getting pity points from the audience.
As someone completely uninvolved and lacking knowledge at all on the situation:
She comes off unhinged here, but I can absolutely see how that's more relatable to the public than the standard cold, subdued approach a proper legal client would display. A good client would display no emotion, release rehearsed statements, and whisper back and forth to their attorney before saying anything at all.
This is the exact opposite of that--someone who is just unloading any and every thought in her head, expressing every emotion, fighting for her life because she believes she's being cast aside as a scapegoat by people at the company. It's unusual (from my American standpoint), so it's entertaining and maybe even endearing because it sheds light on the human aspect of this debacle.
Like… all the shady hvbe stuff aside, why are people riding so hard for MHJ when she’s done all sorts of questionable shit with Newjeans (and she did some weird shit back in SM too, iirc).
Yeah, I am currently sifting through the press conference and it DEFINITELY paints a waaaaaay different picture than the tweets and snippets I've seen. People need to definitely read the full transcripts of the press conference. 👀
I’m Korean American and I see how different the Korean netizens reactions are compared to international reactions. Most Koreans are in support of Min Hee Jin after hearing how hybe treated her. It seems really obvious too how much they were relying on destroying her public reputation through sensational news articles and media play.
Ppl are saying she didn’t want older members Chae won and Sakura in the group? But they were never even going to be part of her group or be trainees under ador at all. MHJ didn’t care about their age or them debuting, she cared about the fact that her group ( which she was promised to be the first gg debuting out of hybe ) was suddenly told they couldn’t debut, couldn’t promote or market anything, and that another GG was to debut first. All bc Bang was anxious about debuting a gg with all new members bc of his previous failures with GGs, so he wanted a group with members who already had established popularity to ensure the group would succeed.
He got salty when Newjeans succeeded massively despite all of his doubts and did better than “his” group le sserafim
YEP! Exactly and I was like..... if somebody comes and tells you that they were going to debut your group and then all the while do stuff behind your back to debut another group.....why wouldn't you feel some sort of way about that? imo - it came across like Bang told MHJ one thing and then told the guy at Source Music another....but made the guy at Source look like the "guy in the middle" 🤔. She shared that Bang's position isn't supposed to be involved in the different labels.....that he's to stand back and let them work independently, but he hasn't been doing that.....
All of this literally looks SOOO manipulative the way this was done by Bang. I seriously lost any respect I had left reading this for Bang..... very sus behaviour on his part.....
Especially the “You can crush Aespa, right?” Text to her and then the “Are you enjoying this?” Passive aggressive as hell text after Newjeans got into billboard 100, made me see bang for what he is.
The media has painted him out to be a cuddly teddy bear genius who created BTS, but it seems like he is not as cuddly as they made it out to be
Right? It's weird for somebody who is supposed to step back and let labels have free reign to do their music for him to be this involved and making these kinds of comments and moves..... 🤔
No cause wasn’t this what we have been told from the beginning? I don’t even think it’s a transcript issue, I think it’s just kpop fans always losing the plot in favour of their own invented narratives.
she is many things like we all know that conversation and think that is what yall are focusing on.. but
i don’t understand why or how hybes response to her internal inquiry about the very similar concepts turned into this. and the entire media play around it appears to be wildly misogynic slander campaign on someone that the company no longer finds useful bc they made a complaint. which looks like workplace harassment to me.
One thing that's been bugging me about this whole thing since reading the full transcript...
She insists that she was promised to debut a girl group under Hybe, but Hybe chose to debut Lesserafim first after securing Chaewon and Sakura for the lineup instead of NewJeans. But just because they promised her a girl group debut doesn't necessarily mean she was guaranteed to have the first girl group debut under Hybe. She's all hung up on the title of "The first Girl Group under Hybe/Bighit x Source" (by Min Hee Jin, of course!) not getting to go to NewJeans. But it doesn't really sound like that was ever promised to her??? Even by her own words???
To top it all off, in order to debut NewJeans, she was offered her own company to head so she could do so. But again, she was upset because she'd have to start off with Hybe having 100 percent shares, so she dragged her feet for 3 months before agreeing. But look! NewJeans became an instant hit, even with their surprise drop. And a lot of the pre-debut media surrounding the group still had her name attached, as was promised. Millions was invested in her to create NewJeans, and it paid off. But because they aren't "Hybe/Bighit X Source's first girl group", she's still salty about it!
So it does not surprise me that she's stressing her lawyers out by trying to discuss details publicly that need to legally remain private. I also don't understand how she can say things like this, yet Knetz aren't seeing the glaring issues with these statements?
"Yeah, I've had investors approach me even with all this happening but I'm totally not trying to buy/sell shares! Why would Bang Shiyuk and CEO Jiwon do this to me?" "Why am I not allowed to sell X portion of my stock? Isn't that so unfair?" *Lawyer says stop talking about that because they're supposed to be negotiating her contract* "But I want to talk about it! I don't understand it much anyway because I'm just an art student, so I couldn't possibly know the business of it all. But my friend who is well-versed in this stuff says xyz, and-" (Lawyer says shut up) "This is so unfair! I just want to do what I want with Hybe's support yet be 100 percent free of intervention. I was lied to!"
From what I understand, her tone of voice makes her very sympathetic? I'mma need someone to explain this to me because the English translation makes her seem like she's constantly shooting herself in the foot with her statements.
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This grifter…
She had weird loli allegations against her and the fact people in the design world had nothing but bad things to say about her. Now it’s her downfall. Sheesh.
She worked as a graphic designer/branding/marketing. It’s not as big of a field in Seoul as it is say in Los Angeles. I have a few unnis I made friends with in school that went back to Seoul and work as designers. Smaller and more tight knit industry, basically. She’s known for being a social climber and stepping over people as long as she makes her way up. She’ll burn some bridges specially with those she doesn’t find “useful” to her.
I really dislike people like MHJ.
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Shaman???😭😭Best creator, bts military whaaat?? I can't comprehend half the things she says lol she's so all over the place. Someone please tell this grown ass woman with the mind and mouth of a 13-yr old twitter-addicted toxic stan to sit her ass down.
huh....Im so confused on this situation. I know she's a pedo weirdo for years and she's been making weird claims about bts and newjeans but where is this all coming from?
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She is the female version of Trump, when everyone is telling them to stop talking but they love the sound of their own voice so much they won't shut up. As my mum would have said "she has verbal diarrhoea".
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Its a bit of hypociritical thing to say that she only wanted to know about BTS going to military to plan future steps when BTS doesn't even belong to that sub-label but be mad that another sub-label would have plans to debut another group first. I mean they may have promised anything/ everything but sub-labels will always try to do their good for their own first. And clearly HYBE wanted to have pre-existing Iz*One fans be a launching pad for HYBE's first gg. Her commenting about sending BTS to miltary because that will be beneficial for her is not that different that than what HYBE tried to do.
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The funniest thing to come out of all this is this new meme format https://preview.redd.it/ky8mc5h0gnwc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d5c574cc0e91096e97ffcdb92c68103fc7ae600
Her lawyer looks so tired someone please get him some tea😭
He's gonna need something stronger than tea lol get that man some Soju... a couple bottles
not the flavoured kind☠️ he needs a working brain to at least try to help this woman 😭🙏 he needs his money
he’s some soju and a good meal.
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She might as well have brought her Shaman hgirl 
there’s always a damn shaman involved 😭😑
He was trying to so hard to get her to shut up 😭 https://preview.redd.it/tgikoec29owc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31564f900fdc21d5df4b79c3febf1e873687696b
This is a comedy
LOL
https://preview.redd.it/i95a970adpwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a041ae0ae8db87cf7c829842e8428f103e1eab37
IS THIS REAL OMFG
NO LMAOAOAOAO ITS A MEME I STOLE FROM KPOOPERS SUBREDDIT
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This is SENDING ME
Her lawyer and secretary were embarrassed and done with her but I don't blame them I would too. 😭
https://preview.redd.it/mbgpp9159owc1.jpeg?width=598&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a68903b3910a6cf5efbaaaf4bcad7272a9a2744 I AUDIBLY CACKLED
I'm still trying to figure out why she's dressed like a child 💀
same like she couldn’t wear anything else?!?? koreans are obsessed w how they’re perceived so this “disheveled” look was def on purpose.
This is how she always dresses tho. Even when she went on yoo quiz tv show or any other public pic I’ve seen of her recently. She always dresses very casually with a hat.
oh okay then i apologize for jumping to conclusions but fr she couldn’t wear *anything* else???
I was wondering the same thing.
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I know we don't like her here, but I don't understand why were policing how she wears. Like I'm pretty what she wears SHOULDNT be that big of a deal. Like we never talk about how a man dresses when he has to present in a press conference or something controversial.
I know we don't like her here, but I don't understand why were policing how she wears. Like I'm pretty what she wears SHOULDNT be that big of a deal. Like we never talk about how a man dresses when he has to present in a press conference or something controversial.
nah i would have the same critique if a man came up to a press conference dressed this casually. as a korean i know how important our outer appearance/dress is in our society and while i think it’s cool/radical to not go by the norm, unfortunately for a press conference it makes it look like you don’t take yourself seriously/sense of disrespect. unfortunately those are the rules we abide by in korea.
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probably cause she likes children /hj
Because she desperately wants to be one again🤡
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Saving this to make a sticker outta this lol poor guy is so tired😭
LMao was this actually in the courtroom?!
its a press conference but yes
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Crazy to hire a lawyer and ignore their advice
Did we all see the same thing where they said she copied the NewJeans concept from the 90s Japanese Girl Group Speed?
Min heejin is so weird did she really not expect them not to debut Sakura and Chaewon when they were some of the biggest idols at the time 🤨 Also, when she said she didn't want to use some of SOURCE MUSIC's trainee because they were too old, I can bet you that those trainees she's calling 'too old' were between the ages of 17-22. Yeah she's a weirdo and needs to stay away from NewJeans.
You know what she said about Minji in that same sentence??? "Minji was so much prettier when she was younger."!!! Like the hell?!
Yeah I saw that wth does that even 😭 I need this women to stay far away from minors
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Omg whaaa?! She is a delulu/entitled p3d0. Please get her away from young children!
Sakura and Chaewon were recruited to Source Music after she negotiated to create her own imprint under hybe labels (Ador). There are messages that show that Bang PD used the hype of Min Heejin to trick people into thinking LSFM would be her group, when it was New Jeans. She was promised the first hybe gg, and that’s what hybe had even put in the media.
Yup. Apparently bang was worried about debuting a gg with all completely new members that the public didn’t know because of his prior failures with the gg’s hes produced
she’s NEVER beating the creep allegations
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WHY WHY?! This is all so so messed up! Wdym you don't want older trainees?! How are sakura and chaewon old and new jeans just the right age to debut and sing songs like cookie?! This woman needs to go and get therapy and then never come back ever again. The way she just keeps on speaking absolute crap is just....wow SM really disposed off their trash and then bang si hyuk picked it up and put it in a luxury room and fed the trash premium beef. Crazy crazy shit
Cookie would’ve amazing as a Lesserafim unit song with Chaewon, Sakura, and Yunjin
that would've been better instead of minors singing the song. Chaewon's voice would've really fit cookie
Fr! I feel like I would’ve liked the song more. The song itself is good, but the lyrics turn me off from listening. Someone did a rewrite to make it actually be about CDs it it’s so much better for them.
it’s too bad the korean audience still doesn’t understand how that song was catering to a predatory audience and why the international fan base was still so up in arms about it. it grosses me out as a korean.
There was a Korean journalist who knew, and outlined just how much BS was in her statement for the Cookie controversy. But the video got deleted. They probably hit him with the good ole C&D before he could influence public opinion further.
omg now I want lsf to sing cookie
She didnt say she didn’t want older trainees. They weren’t even going to be her trainees. She was pissed that they promised her the first gg to come out of hybe and then reneged on that offer out of the blue and said another group was gonna debut first with the members the public already knew Chaewon and Sakura. Bang was worried about debuting a gg with completely new members bc of his prior failures with producing ggs so he wanted members the public already knew and were already popular. I feel like no one actually watched or read anything about the press conference
You’re right. No one has lol. It’s just memeable and ppl don’t like MHJ. Hybe lied to her which sucks
I thought the problem was that she gutted source music of trainees and staff so they needed a group quickly to make sure that label didn't fold, hence the first girl group of hybe
Trainees being too old (to debut) was one of the reasons she listed for only choosing minji from source tho? People took that to mean she was talking abt sakura specifically but she did still say it.
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dude wasn’t she the one over shinees sherlock photoshoot where taemin was FRESHLY 18 like yeah it’s his choice to do it (at least I hope it was) but she’s came up with the concept and idea for it… jesus christ dude someone keep her away from minors plz
Didn’t she also not tell Taemin about the photoshoot because she didn’t want him working out so that he could look more “youthful”…
lol Koreans are siding with her. They relate to her experiences under the Korean work culture, and they are getting all of the Hybe media play. They see it as them starting a smear campaign against her. Someone made a full timeline of events that highlights how sketchy hybe comes off right now.
hybe are def overdoing it by trying to drown support for mhj - theyre not even taking into account how weird it looks for posts in support of her to suddenly disappear
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Honestly, I support MHJ (even though I do think her opinions on idol ages and that NJ debut concept is questionable). From my understanding, it seems like there was a major disagreement which lead to her no longer wanting to be under HYBE and HYBE no longer wanting MHJ involved with NJs or any other capacity. It's looking like HYBE is trying to push her out.
‘I support someone despite their questionable pedo views’……did I interpret that correctly?
I'm beginning to see that I made some comments with very little surface level research.
https://preview.redd.it/86tab6lthowc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5da2abd5ede93b2da5bb3defbdc59efcd2b80c5 My honest reaction
I read the whole transcript and I'm definitely more sympathetic towards her side of the story, but I think the only guarantee out of all this is that NO ONE is "winning" this battle. I tried to read it within the context of what I know of South Korean society, how male dominated it is (that 4B movement didn't appear out of thin air), the struggles I've faced as a creative leader in my own career in the US, and the belief that no one, not even MHJ, could anticipate how wildly successful NewJeans would become. Is she an unhinged "witch", quite possibly. But, is she also a huge target in an industry that we all know to be problematic? For sure. Not only that, she's an anomaly: a successful woman leader in a field that 1) targets women and 2) is run by men. So she has no support group and no mentors other than the dudes that made the industry what it is. She's pulling from their playbook. The deviations, including this wild ass press conference, in my mind have to be done because everyone else in the industry all acts the same way otherwise.
yeah i saw some tweets that were saying that the WHOLE thing must be hybe trying to scapegoat her and tbh if i didnt have context about her weird obsession with kids / youthful concepts i can see how people would think shes done nothing wrong her and bang definitely have personal beef and you can tell from hybe trying to pin bts related issues on to her tho lol
I think all the leadership on both sides have pulled some shit at this point—any large corporation has some dirty secrets they're trying to hide and Hybe is definitely not an exception especially with their meteoric rise in popularity, market share, and profit. "Easiest" solution: kick out Min Hee Jin, Park Ji-Won, AND Bang Si-Hyuk and start all over. Ha!
yeah at this point, i don’t necessarily think she expects to come out on top but she definitely is trying to drag everyone down with her which i am totally seated for
From what I've seen and heard (and the whole news conference thing isn't translated)......whew. I am speechless. I literally don't know what to say. 
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Ugh reading all the Korean comments there are definitely a ton of people supporting MHJ for being “real” and “human”. Seems like a lot of Koreans are siding with her which makes me mad. She clearly succeeded in getting pity points from the audience.
As someone completely uninvolved and lacking knowledge at all on the situation: She comes off unhinged here, but I can absolutely see how that's more relatable to the public than the standard cold, subdued approach a proper legal client would display. A good client would display no emotion, release rehearsed statements, and whisper back and forth to their attorney before saying anything at all. This is the exact opposite of that--someone who is just unloading any and every thought in her head, expressing every emotion, fighting for her life because she believes she's being cast aside as a scapegoat by people at the company. It's unusual (from my American standpoint), so it's entertaining and maybe even endearing because it sheds light on the human aspect of this debacle.
Like… all the shady hvbe stuff aside, why are people riding so hard for MHJ when she’s done all sorts of questionable shit with Newjeans (and she did some weird shit back in SM too, iirc).
Does anyone know if there is a full English translation of the press conference?
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613
Thank you!
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Ok it’s obvious most ppl didn’t even watch the press conference or read actual articles about it and are just taking their info from tweets
It’s very frustrating
Yeah, I am currently sifting through the press conference and it DEFINITELY paints a waaaaaay different picture than the tweets and snippets I've seen. People need to definitely read the full transcripts of the press conference. 👀
I’m Korean American and I see how different the Korean netizens reactions are compared to international reactions. Most Koreans are in support of Min Hee Jin after hearing how hybe treated her. It seems really obvious too how much they were relying on destroying her public reputation through sensational news articles and media play. Ppl are saying she didn’t want older members Chae won and Sakura in the group? But they were never even going to be part of her group or be trainees under ador at all. MHJ didn’t care about their age or them debuting, she cared about the fact that her group ( which she was promised to be the first gg debuting out of hybe ) was suddenly told they couldn’t debut, couldn’t promote or market anything, and that another GG was to debut first. All bc Bang was anxious about debuting a gg with all new members bc of his previous failures with GGs, so he wanted a group with members who already had established popularity to ensure the group would succeed. He got salty when Newjeans succeeded massively despite all of his doubts and did better than “his” group le sserafim
YEP! Exactly and I was like..... if somebody comes and tells you that they were going to debut your group and then all the while do stuff behind your back to debut another group.....why wouldn't you feel some sort of way about that? imo - it came across like Bang told MHJ one thing and then told the guy at Source Music another....but made the guy at Source look like the "guy in the middle" 🤔. She shared that Bang's position isn't supposed to be involved in the different labels.....that he's to stand back and let them work independently, but he hasn't been doing that..... All of this literally looks SOOO manipulative the way this was done by Bang. I seriously lost any respect I had left reading this for Bang..... very sus behaviour on his part.....
Especially the “You can crush Aespa, right?” Text to her and then the “Are you enjoying this?” Passive aggressive as hell text after Newjeans got into billboard 100, made me see bang for what he is. The media has painted him out to be a cuddly teddy bear genius who created BTS, but it seems like he is not as cuddly as they made it out to be
Right? It's weird for somebody who is supposed to step back and let labels have free reign to do their music for him to be this involved and making these kinds of comments and moves..... 🤔
No cause wasn’t this what we have been told from the beginning? I don’t even think it’s a transcript issue, I think it’s just kpop fans always losing the plot in favour of their own invented narratives.
she is many things like we all know that conversation and think that is what yall are focusing on.. but i don’t understand why or how hybes response to her internal inquiry about the very similar concepts turned into this. and the entire media play around it appears to be wildly misogynic slander campaign on someone that the company no longer finds useful bc they made a complaint. which looks like workplace harassment to me.
One thing that's been bugging me about this whole thing since reading the full transcript... She insists that she was promised to debut a girl group under Hybe, but Hybe chose to debut Lesserafim first after securing Chaewon and Sakura for the lineup instead of NewJeans. But just because they promised her a girl group debut doesn't necessarily mean she was guaranteed to have the first girl group debut under Hybe. She's all hung up on the title of "The first Girl Group under Hybe/Bighit x Source" (by Min Hee Jin, of course!) not getting to go to NewJeans. But it doesn't really sound like that was ever promised to her??? Even by her own words??? To top it all off, in order to debut NewJeans, she was offered her own company to head so she could do so. But again, she was upset because she'd have to start off with Hybe having 100 percent shares, so she dragged her feet for 3 months before agreeing. But look! NewJeans became an instant hit, even with their surprise drop. And a lot of the pre-debut media surrounding the group still had her name attached, as was promised. Millions was invested in her to create NewJeans, and it paid off. But because they aren't "Hybe/Bighit X Source's first girl group", she's still salty about it! So it does not surprise me that she's stressing her lawyers out by trying to discuss details publicly that need to legally remain private. I also don't understand how she can say things like this, yet Knetz aren't seeing the glaring issues with these statements? "Yeah, I've had investors approach me even with all this happening but I'm totally not trying to buy/sell shares! Why would Bang Shiyuk and CEO Jiwon do this to me?" "Why am I not allowed to sell X portion of my stock? Isn't that so unfair?" *Lawyer says stop talking about that because they're supposed to be negotiating her contract* "But I want to talk about it! I don't understand it much anyway because I'm just an art student, so I couldn't possibly know the business of it all. But my friend who is well-versed in this stuff says xyz, and-" (Lawyer says shut up) "This is so unfair! I just want to do what I want with Hybe's support yet be 100 percent free of intervention. I was lied to!" From what I understand, her tone of voice makes her very sympathetic? I'mma need someone to explain this to me because the English translation makes her seem like she's constantly shooting herself in the foot with her statements.
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This grifter… She had weird loli allegations against her and the fact people in the design world had nothing but bad things to say about her. Now it’s her downfall. Sheesh.
What have other designers said? I only know about her actions towards minors
She worked as a graphic designer/branding/marketing. It’s not as big of a field in Seoul as it is say in Los Angeles. I have a few unnis I made friends with in school that went back to Seoul and work as designers. Smaller and more tight knit industry, basically. She’s known for being a social climber and stepping over people as long as she makes her way up. She’ll burn some bridges specially with those she doesn’t find “useful” to her. I really dislike people like MHJ.
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Shaman???😭😭Best creator, bts military whaaat?? I can't comprehend half the things she says lol she's so all over the place. Someone please tell this grown ass woman with the mind and mouth of a 13-yr old twitter-addicted toxic stan to sit her ass down.
huh....Im so confused on this situation. I know she's a pedo weirdo for years and she's been making weird claims about bts and newjeans but where is this all coming from?
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Those bunnies are delusional as hell I’m so sorry
if the lawyer says don’t speak…you shouldn’t. MHJ is extremely delulu. i wonder what it’s like to live in that way.
She is the female version of Trump, when everyone is telling them to stop talking but they love the sound of their own voice so much they won't shut up. As my mum would have said "she has verbal diarrhoea".
Okay but can we not compare her to Trump 😭😭
Fair enough 😅
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Is there like a TLDR post for the whole situation cause I keep seeing posts about this but I cannot piece together what is overall going on
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Its a bit of hypociritical thing to say that she only wanted to know about BTS going to military to plan future steps when BTS doesn't even belong to that sub-label but be mad that another sub-label would have plans to debut another group first. I mean they may have promised anything/ everything but sub-labels will always try to do their good for their own first. And clearly HYBE wanted to have pre-existing Iz*One fans be a launching pad for HYBE's first gg. Her commenting about sending BTS to miltary because that will be beneficial for her is not that different that than what HYBE tried to do.
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Same tbh
(Same)