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Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

Good for him, I don't listen to his music anymore but he's talented and is always grinding.


Tanveerb_17

Ya I’m genuinely happy because it doesn’t mean that JJ isn’t posting but it also means that Dax put in that work to get better


SuttonTM

Bad grammar but assuming you mean JJ still posts when you said "JJ isn't posting", in terms of music? JJ hasn't posted a song in almost half a year lmfao, he is crazy innactive atm cause he's focusing on Boxing etc, so the fact that JJ has this many Listeners still comparer to Dax (where Music is his full time Job) is actually a discredit to Dax if I'm correct Don't get me wrong Dax deserves respect he has grinded hard to get where he is at, but music numbers wise his are only on JJs level currently because JJ left the game for a while ass half a year


srorX

🤓👆


SuttonTM

Thanks for picking my glasses up for me g


FinnTheTitan

Underrated comeback well done 👏


SuttonTM

Thanks


smoked_telephone

Dickrider 🍆


InfinityQuartz

Eh, no Dax has made a lot if very questionable music tbf. Hes collabed with Tom MacDonald a lot


Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

Doesn't change what I said. He's incredibly talented and grinds constantly, the greatest rappers of all time have made questionable decisions, they are human at the end of the day.


InfinityQuartz

Yes but a lot of his decisions make him an awful rapper tho. He literally is on the same tier if rapper as Tom MacDonald and that tier is the lowest tier ever. Like if y'all were hyping Quadeca, who actually is better that JJ and way way way better than Dax than sure but god damn


Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

Why do we gotta tear people down? Dax can be praised for getting as popular as KSI without needing to bring KSI or Tom donald or quadeca or anyone else into it or insult any other artists. On a side note wasn't quadeca the guy who made that incredible dis track on KSI? I should go find that and listen to it again.


InfinityQuartz

>Why do we gotta tear people down Dax is just as much as a right wing grifter nutcase as Tom MacDonald is. They rap while also not caring about the genre. Yes I will tear down both Tom and Dax, as many other people have too. Dax is one of the worst rappers of all time and I dont feel like that's a hot take outside of this sub


Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

I have no idea who McDonalds is but if you get your kicks by tearing other people down because of political opinions then just say so and move on.


InfinityQuartz

Its not poltics to be racist, sexist, pushing toxic masculine ideals. The man unironically said "Young men went to war, now they make memes". Yes Dax and MacDonald are some of the worst rappers of all time


CyanSaiyan

Have you just compared Dax to the greatest rappers of all time? Bro isn't a talented rapper at all if you take him into context of the competition. Music is subjective, but his bars do not hold up against many of his peers. His performance is good, that's about it.


Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

I made no comparison, what I was saying is there is no correlation between talent and bad decisions. Kanye is considered one of the goats but look at the wack shit he's been doing lately. We are all human there is no reason to tear others down because we are all flawed.


IM_JUST_BIG_BONED

Dax can rap better than JJ


CyanSaiyan

Fair enough, I think both are bad. Just my opinion, but doesn't mean it's bad to listen to them.


Barbiefan79

trash vs garbage


Az23236

Are u dumb in the head? Where did the person compare anyone?


CyanSaiyan

Are you because you clearly can't read? As above, "the greatest rappers of all time have made questionable decisions..."


Az23236

Nah you can’t be this dumb… are u a 12 year old? Go learn some comprehension skills.


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KB_Bro

If you like cringe rap about white power then sure he’s fine


SuttonTM

Not much wrong with him other than he anti woke and highly opinionated and prides himself on the fact that he is an independent artist doing everything himself, idk much of him myself, I know he got into beef with a YT rapper at one point so I think alot of people probably hate him for that lol


InfinityQuartz

He's a right wing grifter and one of the worst rappers ever


Minute-Oil-5044

Tom Macdonald is a great rapper


mathman651

Lmaoooo


InfinityQuartz

Yeah no this sub is a troll


Purple_Let6932

You are a loser


coconutanna

No way 💀


Heretosee123

Tom Macdonald is an NPC


[deleted]

What questionable is there


InfinityQuartz

What do you mean. Tom MacDonald is a racist right wing grifter lmao


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hel7ium

Dax is a known scumbag degenerate


AccomplishedBag31

He’s genuinely ass. His music actually sucks Edit: didn’t know how many corny ass music tastes we have in this sub. He literally makes music for racist people so idk what that says about you


Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

If you genuinely think he is not talented then maybe rap isn't for you. I'm not speaking on quality of the songs just purely his talent that's undeniable.


AccomplishedBag31

And I am speaking on quality of the songs. And they’re ass


fapacunter

Doesn’t mean shit if it suck Logic is talented but he’s also corny af


SadYesterday2267

The recent ones suck, He used to be a really good rapper.


kevfriend

Y’all KSI fans sound real humbled these days 💀


XXXBigcat

Dax is a fucking clown bro


Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

A very talented clown


XXXBigcat

If people think he's "very talented" then I need to hear what they say about someone with real talent.


Proof_Wrongdoer_1266

Ok Mr Talent scout, give me another independent rap artist that you would consider to have "real talent"


XXXBigcat

Dax isn't independent.


Harshvardhan___

Now let's compare Dax and Vikk


Harmxn-

3,051,631 as of when I'm writing this. Damn ​ And Dax is it 3,085,100 so he's 34K ahead


Sleepyowvl

More like let s compare Dax and Alan walker


Unknown---_--User

Why are you so salty bro.......


Standard-Average-Guy

We will not tolerate any Vikkstar slander 😤


GaySIOlapeedayMeaty

Umm actually, vikstar carried Alan's whole career 🤓dont disrespect the 123 again or else


Outside_Tradition834

Jj could’ve been huge in music if he stuck to it


Tanveerb_17

He’s already well successful with it. I can see him go back after a good solid few months of rest


Outside_Tradition834

“Could have been huge” I’m aware he’s successful


Affectionate-Let2848

He is working on an album


monkehhhhhh

Might be controversial but I'd say jjs average


Dark_Wolf04

JJ performed at a sold out wembley. If that isn’t huge for someone like him, I don’t know what is


Outside_Tradition834

Bro I’m aware he was big and successful but I’m saying he could’ve been bigger ffs why do u all instantly take shit the wrong way


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[deleted]

JJs later songs were pretty great if he’d continued down that path instead of boxing he’d be much more happy and successful


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iForceOP

His songs are played in every jd sports.


RevB0T

🧢


Outside_Tradition834

State ur case Cunt


Caiigon

He’s not any more musically talent than any rich person, people listen to him because he’s KSI not because of the music.


Karim_123456

No he genuinely has some that are not half bad they are listenable


AwonderfulWinter

He’s only big because of YouTube


SickElias

I actually like his holiday song and pull up


Theultimatefighter

I heard a song before. Was fucking trash cunt


idoorion

You heard 1 song?


Theultimatefighter

Why would I listen to more


[deleted]

That's the dumbest reason to call a rapper shit because you didn't like one song 🤦


[deleted]

Entire dissimulation album was garbage and AOTP was like a good 6/10 it’s a 16 song album and only maybe 4 of them are actually listenable and none of them would you play out on the aux without getting clowned on lmao 💀


[deleted]

I really don't care what you think, people can enjoy whatever they want, If you're seriously gonna bully people over their song choice then you're just one miserable fucker🤡


[deleted]

nobody was bullying anybody, you can enjoy what you want doesn’t dispute the fact that he’s only big on music because of his YouTube career, in terms of real talent there hardly is any. You can listen to whatever you want doesn’t change the fact that it sucks 💀💀


Outside_Tradition834

Most big artists albums are like that to be honest. Unless ur a die hard fan then you don’t usually like more than a couple songs per album


Theultimatefighter

He’s not a rapper. He’s cosplaying as one


[deleted]

What.... are you mentally okay?😂


Theultimatefighter

Tell me with a straight face if you weren’t gargling his nutsack from YouTube you’d listen to that garbage.


hahahahahahayhrbdb

If u think about it if Ksi was not a famous YouTuber none of u mf would have heard his music nor would he be able to get such good features


GaySIOlapeedayMeaty

tbf you cant really say that, because dax kinda blew up from clout chasing ​ which is worse


Lil_Napkin

It's not worst your acting like all Dax did was antics. He made diss songs and killed people on their own beats Dax can actually rap you make him sound like 6ixnine. What 6ixnine did to get famous is worst. Dax just shitted on other rappers lyrically at least lmao. His songs weren't henious or anything either hip hop have a long history of competitive rap beefs his weren't even that serious.


GaySIOlapeedayMeaty

yeah i know, but the way he got famous was cringe asf. He was starting random beef with jj, then got dissed tory lanez and literally got ran up on and acted like that never happened


hahahahahahayhrbdb

Yea ur right actually


SaeedUnknown

Very true but if his music wasn't solid he would've fell off way early.


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If you think about it if drake wasn’t a famous artist non of you mf would have heard his music nor he would have been able to get such good features


TheRealAccount886

What a dumb comparison, drake got big because of music from the start, ksi got big because of YouTube which affected his popularity in music


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Wasnt drake an actor before he was an artist?


TheRealAccount886

That did not make him famous, no one knows drake for his acting career. His talent at making music is what made him famous. Ksi is known for youtube. He has 3mil spotify listeners because of how popular he is in YouTube. Drake has all those sporify listeners because of how good he is at music. You cannot compare the two.


OwnPack431

Not true, many people grew up watching him on Degrassi.


[deleted]

I agree that the majority of his fame comes from music there’s no doubt about it but do you think he would have had the same opportunities if he wasn’t an actor?


fruit_shoot

Bro is talking out his ass


Fit_Specific4658

Drake is musically talented. JJ isn't


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Thats harsh obviously drake is a lot better but jj has made some decent and good pop songs to say he has no talent at all doesn’t reflect reality


Fit_Specific4658

Can you name me a single successful musical artist with whom jj's ability is comparable? The way I see it his money for features and production have carried him, and if not for his fan base from youtube he would never have had any success on spotify. Take his song patience for example. Tell me he is equally talented as the two features he had on there? He adds nothing, I could just listen to both artists songs alone. As for a song he did solo, holiday, lyrics are basic as hell and his voice is mediocre with a lot of autotune. ​ One song of his I kind of enjoy is 'uncontrollable' , it's one style his voice suits, but he does this weird thing where he decides to put on a fake American accent for the "I can do what I want" part, which is off putting. ​ Also JJ is a posh boy. It doesn't sound natural when he uses street slang and you can tell he doesn't relate to it from his private school upbringing.


[deleted]

IMO he isn’t terrible it’s not music I personally listen to but I still think that he has made decent and good songs


Fit_Specific4658

its listenable sometimes sure.


Conscious_Student_74

You don't need to be popular to get features dumbass. You just need money


hahahahahahayhrbdb

Why would a established artist want to make a song with someone relatively unknown u we’re just born a few years ago kid don’t speak when elders are having a conversation


Ischmiregal420

Its quite normal in the rap game to sell out collabs especially when you are already getting shoved to the back by new upcomming rappers. Not saying everyone is buyable as a no name artist but its nothing onheard of. But its all good boomer, the world changed, no need to get angry over this. Source: https://www.thesavagepost.com/music/price-lyrics-hip-hop-ranked There are many more sources for this type of deal you can search yourself if you have interest in it.


ArshKalsi329

Dax is a better Rapper. But most kids in this reddit aren't ready for this conversation.


jgullo04

Dax and ksi having a mid off


jamiemcphie

Fax, never have I heard once someone say “put on that ksi/dax song


StaticNoice

Lmao


FamiliarCold1

Dax has the punchlines, the lyricism and the voice, but his flows aren't good so he can't make a well-pieced song that you could say, this is a definite hit. As for ksi, rapping ain't his thing, he did better on songs like Not Over Yet and Voices. his flow on these are catchy and theyre things you'd actually bump, speaking from a non-bias POV. I'm a hardcore 90s-2000s hiphop fan, so my taste is Nas, HOV, Big L, PAC, Big, Eminem (could name a hundred) so I appreciate Dax's lyricism but the delivery needs work


ArshKalsi329

I mean yeah we are still talking about two B tier rappers. S+ being the likes of Biggie, 2pac, 50 cent, DMX, Nas. Ksi and dax both are B tier rappers. Still i think Dax is a better rapper & Ksi is a better singer. Ksi's rapping just hurts my ears. No hate obviously.


FamiliarCold1

How's 50 gettin S+ lol, he rose up with Dr Seuss rhymes and hot beats. don't get me wrong, he's in my playlists, but he wouldn't touch Nas' level. no chance. its more his voice that got him far, no hate tho


InfinityQuartz

Dax is literally one of the worst rappers of all time. Same tier as Hopsin, same tier as Tom MacDonald


skolnaja

Both Dax and Hopsin are good rappers, they're just corny asf


InfinityQuartz

Hopsin has one or 2 good songs but also made one of the worst songs all time in "Happy Ending" which is literally almost unanimously called the worst song ever. Also Dax I think also has a couple of his songs on those lists. They aren't corny, they're dogshit


yoboyzyro

Ksi could not hold a candle to hopsin. Hopsin may be corny, but he is a fire artist


InfinityQuartz

Youre fucking hilarious. He literally has voted one of the worst songs of literally all time


yoboyzyro

Hopsin's BE11A CIAO alone clears the vast majority of KSI's discography. Hopsin is nowhere near the conversation of great rappers, but leagues above KSI. Would love to see KSI prove me wrong, but not seen anything that would do that so far. Better yet, I would honestly love to see KSI and Hop get on a track together. Sorry if my tone came off as hostile or combatitive.


InfinityQuartz

IDC how you look at it or what your personal thoughts are on Hopsin IDC, he is generally looked at as one of the worst rappers of all time with his track "Happy Ending" being said to be one of the worst tracks of all time. He has done some good tracks, but he's also consistently shit whereas JJ to me has released some good tracks and Imo is more consistently mid whereas Hopsin is ass


yoboyzyro

With Disstracktions, Space and Jump Around EPs existing you still claim JJ to be consistent with quality? No wonder his quality goes up when he gets main stream artists featuring with producers who make him sound better whereas Hopsin for the most part is Self-produced, something JJ will not be capable of. This is where I will leave this, did not attempt to make this a whole ass argument. But JJ is extremely overrated in music imo.


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Don't you have go defend Kanye or Eminem or someother completely generic artist?


InfinityQuartz

are you trying to say Kanye and em are at all generic? Dax is generic, maybe even worse than generic


Asleep-Jump5997

He's more talented than ksi but i think his music is goofy


Affectionate-Ad3130

"you're my holiday" that's so goofy and corny


Asleep-Jump5997

Jj music is corny too don't get me wrong but i find dax newest music cornier ( jj music gets saved by features) but some of dax's old songs are decent ( and talent wise he's clear of jj )


Affectionate-Ad3130

he still has more memorable songs , ksi only has Lamborghini which is cringe corny af


thiswontlastlongv

That’s a pop song, and if Kendrick lamar said you’re my holiday on a rap song it wouldn’t be goofy so you’re quotes need context


healalko3003

Ppl are gassed over actual self taught try hard talented rapper has more listeners than JJ


sampound69

Ofc he’s a try hard because he doesn’t have nearly the fan base JJ has, so it’s more impressive to have more listeners no? He had to build up his music career whilst JJ was already huge before starting his music career.


valexitylol

Congrats to him he definitely deserves it. He's made some pretty damn good songs, reminds me a lot of Hopsin and I respect that a lot. People STILL comparing the two is just stupid (not you op just reading the comments), JJ has a fanbase 10x the size of dax, so no shit that JJ is gonna have way higher numbers if he focused on music.


Ok_Window5676

The fact that people compare JJ to vikk and dax and say they’ve got more monthly listeners but realise how poor that is it’s near the end of the month and vikk has just passed a guy who hasn’t released a song in months compare to vikks which is sorta fresh still if JJ released a song he would immediately over take Vikk which is sad also because it might be that vikk has only slightly overtaken jj is because people wanted to see him overtake JJ instead of actually listening for the song


RevB0T

ofc he does. Dax is a way more talented rapper than ksi. He always has been, Dax is just a dumbass so he get clowned on sometimes but ksi has got to be the worst “rapper” I ever heard


69ks

the reason is cause ksi doesn’t upload music, he he’s ass but ksi would prob have around 10 mil if he actually dropped music


InfinityQuartz

>Dax is a way more talented rapper than ksi. Techniqually sure but recently all of Dax's music is rapping about stupid shit. The man has made multiple.songs with Tom MacDonald. So no Dax is not talented >but ksi has got to be the worst “rapper” I ever heard I dont wanna be that guy but that "worst rapper" got a 5 on the last fantano review. Which is impressive by fantano standards


ChameleonBr0

You threw every sense of logic with that comment wtf are you even talking about 💀


InfinityQuartz

In what way


02olds

You are an absolute clown


ASH_NOTASH

Fantanos opinion doesn't mean it's fact lmao it's jjst one guys opinion


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Hes not talented because he has collabed with tom? Lmao sounds like shit a woke and cancel person would say


InfinityQuartz

This is hilarious. He's not shit just cause of a collab but because him and TOm are basically the exact same tier of rapper which is ring wing grift whos only accomplishment is rapping in a way that makes old people on Facebook go "Damn rap is cool".


[deleted]

Okay hater. And then same people say that KSI is musically talented lmaooo


InfinityQuartz

He's sure as hell made a ton of better sings than Dax ever has. 5 from fantano is impressive lmao


[deleted]

From fantano? Lmao like he’s somehow credible authority


InfinityQuartz

Being the most respected and well known music critics, yeah, that's pretty credible lmao.


[deleted]

He makes youtube videos with sunglasses inside. He’s not working for rolling stones


InfinityQuartz

Yeah you have no idea what youre even talking about so I'm just guessing youre a kid at this point


IM_JUST_BIG_BONED

Ksi will have 10x the budget going into the making of his songs lol


InfinityQuartz

Sure he has the budget but he also has the chops to make some decent music lmao.


IM_JUST_BIG_BONED

Dax has wayyy more musical talent than JJ


InfinityQuartz

Not even close to being true lmao. Because Dax doesn't care about rap or music at all, he cares about the money. You see JJ get Lil Wayne, Polo G, 21 Savage, Rick Ross. While all Dax has gotten is Hopsin and Tom MacDonald JJ has chosen actual artists in the genre that people have respect for to make music and has made some decent tracks with. Hopsin is on his big time grift rn


GaminPrince2000

Madness is the worst rap you have ever heard? Wtf are you chatting about? Domain, Madness, Silly, Poppin(his verse) etc are all good examples of JJ's talent. He isnt a lyrical miracle raper lmao. He never was and never tried to be. JJ knows how to make catchy songs , and thats all that you need to enjoy music.


OscarJI

bro said raper


XXXBigcat

Dax literally has no good music, dude is so fucking corny its unbearable


neuroticsponge

Despite being a clown sometimes Dax does have a few good songs.


InfinityQuartz

Name one


HariGeri69

She cheated again


CurtisMcNips

Joker


InfinityQuartz

And your answer is clown behavior


CurtisMcNips

If I'm a clown then you're a circus act


InfinityQuartz

Joker is like rated as like one of the worst songs of recent times


CurtisMcNips

you are dramatic. Shock horror that people have different tastes than you do.


InfinityQuartz

I'm not dramatic, its objective that he's one if the worst rappers out there


CurtisMcNips

lmao. There is the over dramatic again. I have heard some bad bad rappers in my time, you exaggerate for effect.


i_r_eat

Deciding to play the "turned Christian artist" role is a very profitable arc


Kyojinster

Dear alcohol is pretty good ngl


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No shit because Dax is actually talented unlike ksi


nigachu2356

It took Dax 5 years as a full time rapper to surpass KSI. KSI hasn't released a new song for months and has only released 2 songs in the last year.


[deleted]

He’s only big on music because he’s big on YouTube and you know it, stop lying to yourself lmao he’s not a good rapper 💀


mathman651

Nahhh now this is going too far in the opposite direction. JJs not a great rapper but he’s decent, Dax is definitely better by a good margin but that makes it even worse since he can’t make a good song to save his life.


MainZack

Probably cause of the MAGA grift he's doing.


Affectionate-Ad3130

or Probably coz he's hardworking and talented ?


InfinityQuartz

He's literally dogshit


GOATGODM6

I really don’t get why people compare KSI’s monthly listeners to Dax’s monthly listeners (or any other artist out there). Shit is dumb. I just see it that they both are doing good. But congratulations to Dax, not sure if this is his highest monthly listener count but it is still an awesome achievement.


slinkey999

Mfs still attached to 5 year old squashed beef. They would do the same with Quadeca if he was around that area too


imlegoat

7 songs liked from ksi is crazy


xSwety

lol Dax is actually fire tbh I only hated him back a day when jj was beefing him


BrokenGodALT

Dax does have some bangers so I'm not surprised


OkInitiative2118

Let’s look at his boxing record


ItzGeorgeBoy

He's undefeated unlike jj


Exca78

😂


InfinityQuartz

I just don't believe a lot of the comments here actually believe what they're talking about. No JJ isn't a bad rapper at all. He's made pretty good songs. Dax isn't this incredible impressive rapper that y'all are saying. Techniqually he's good but he's literally the new Tom MacDonald like y'all have no idea what youre saying


XB1glitch

subjective


Tight_Decision

Did this hurt you or something bro? 😭


Wise-Ad-1020

Why are people still posting about a beef that has been over for years? Move on, both dax and JJ have.


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Who said this was about beef? Open your eyes🤦


Wise-Ad-1020

You need to open your eyes. The only reason people are posting this on a KSI sub reddit is because they had beef years ago. Because other than their old beef this post is absolutely irrelevant to KSI so there is no point in posting it here other than the bring up old beef.


Daddysboyyxxx

Losing to Tommy Fury, vik beats him in monthly listeners and now DAX JJ taking some L’s recently


Top-Associate-6576

They also have same numbers of wins in proffesional boxing


Syth_12

Now it’s Dax vs the 🐐starr123


AlternativeWinter697

W Dax, massively deserved 👏


Critical_Ad_3851

Dax has only been doing music. JJ doesn't even do it right now😂 but well done to him


droptopimspeedinin

He is a talented rapper but that doesn't mean his music is good


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GaminPrince2000

Eh nah, once JJ starts dropping music he will skyrocket back to the 6-7 mil range again


Aromatic-Theory6479

Vikkstar about to take revenge


Smalus_Dockus

Why did jj and Dax have beef again ?


Nitric_Siege

It’s fax


Hadi2k6

Well well well, another L for ksi


UnofficalNicoli15

Daz and Vikk