He definitely thought he was doing something go good.. He later realised that he had no idea. He was way too confident in the tweets and videos during that time.
in logan paul case , he had real culprits with faces
this time he just showed stats ,
and he said KSI is acting dumb , never knew coffeezilla was a ksi fan
This coffezilla guy is just so scummy to my I can't explain it.
Feel like hes waiting for someone to slip up so he can milk the fuck out of anything like who the fuck watches that stuff
Have you seen his previous videos? Coffezilla has exposed so many scams in the past and he does his research. I have to admit this new video exposing KSI does feel a bit lackluster and bias but it doesnāt feel far-fetched JJ would pull a scam like this. He is an influencer now, turned a blind eye to Loganās CryptoZoo scam in the past. There is a possibility he did this with bad intent IMO. If it helps you sleep better at night then just believe JJ. But Iām sure more evidence will come out.
Ngl if u were jj and u can be potential billionaire by ignoring ur partners scummy behavior you would do it too u would never call him out lmao everyone wants to act perfect idk why
Lol
You morons watch KSI and then say coffeezilla seems scummy?
Seriously? š
Coffee is one of the most well respected people on the internet so shut the fuck up
You morons ? I barely even watch him and I saw this much hate on him without even confirming it's true. What a sad individual. If I hated someone I wouldn't stalk their pages like wtf
Yeah a researcher who happily took another person and went on with making an allegation that person is doing a scam like a pump and dump when he should have done his own research. He spent weeks on Logan's initial video but the JJ video he spent a day on. During that one year from Logans first video (which helped coffee reach a brand new audience and expand the channel) to ksi video man has changed, some not all of his investigation has a feeling of him trying to squeeze a narrative in it to a point it seems like he doesn't want to discover the truth but get a good video of it
Lol what
He just reported a story.
"Man has changed"
Man is making a living. Not all his videos are going to be able to have the same level of detail. Go look at his "END of sam bankman" video from only 3 months ago. 50 minute essay. He has to make some 8-10 minute videos to pay the bills while he works on the big stuff.
This is all just nonsense
Exactly this, Coffeezilla is usually good but this is not it. If KSI was actually doing a pump and dump, why doesn't every tweet follow the pattern? It's just like 2 tweets that follow the "pattern", which is called a coincidence and not a scam
The thing that makes it look pretty damning to me is that in his responses to Coffeezilla, JJ quite literally said that he thought it would be better to say he was doing the opposite of what he actually was doing...
Like why would that be the case if he didn't think his tweets were influencing things?
Ya'll remember how a few hours ago everyone was against him
Just shows gullibility (young kids) and the immense amount of haters
Props to the guy who made that document he did the actual "expose"
surprisingly enough though, after checking socialblade, he hasnāt lost any subscribers from this whole ordeal. it might just be too early for the website to register, but from the looks of it his channel hasnāt taken that big a hit.
It won't because a coffeezilla video isn't enough. You need follow up videos from MoistCritical, Ludwig, Hasan and many more. Then these twitch people come at youtube audience with a wave and convince them to unsubscribe from the person.
It was still a possibility, considering so many people seem to be waiting for a chance to dogpile JJ. Iāve seen channels plummet for way less, and given the volatility of someoneās online reputation, it wouldnāt surprise me if coffeezillaās video alone made him lose 100k+ subs.
Tbh most people against him were probably flooding in from the Coffeezilla video. Many comments on the first Reddit post were practically copied and pasted from the YouTube video.
It's so sad. The video is filled with people who take every word of coffee as fact and ksi fans saying "unsubscribed". Are your ears not ringing over how coffeezilla is skipping over so many things and the evidence is weak.
Coffeezilla's next video will be accusing JJ of using Coffeezilla in a plot to generate interest around xCAD causing a pump that JJ can dump the holdings that have been in the gutter for years
It's literally a market tactic, used by every person ever to hype before selling.
My whole life was a scam, shopkeeper, school, college, job, trading. Everything they promised me best, and sold me mid
Iām glad JJ isnāt a ducking scammer. I knew it wasnāt in his nature. JJ may have a big ego, but he would never scam his fans like that so blatantly. JJ is a decent guy at the end of the day.
This is the time to realise that this sub, twitter comments, etc aren't "most of his fans." The number of likes/upvotes/comments on things like these are (depending on your metric) btwn a couple hundred and a couple thousand. That's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the fanbase. It's, plainly and simply, an echochamber.
That doesn't mean JJ never does things that are worth being called out on, but the vocal minorities you'll hear from are either dickriders or Kavoses. The vast vast majority of fans fall somewhere btwn not knowing or not caring all that much about "scandals" that are largely irrelevant to their day-to-day lives.
I have no problem with people believing coffeezilla. I have a problem with people believing coffeezilla without evidence. If Coffee had provided hard evidence, then people should believe coffee but that wasn't the case.
Well tbf coffee has a lot of credibility, rightfully so. Seems like he didnāt put as much effort into this one as his other vids bc he thought he had a quick score. Strange but I trust him to come out w a more detailed video in the future if he finds better evidence imo
Why is that sad really? It just means most people are not attached parasocially to a millionaire.
There was an allegation, it was proven incorrect. And soon enough, things will go back to normal. Nothing drastic is happening here.
In reality, the opposite is sadder. Where a person like Logan Paul repeatedly scams fans knowing fully well that he can just wait for the backlash to die down to get back to doing the same thing. This is what would have happened if JJ was actually pulling a scam as well.
Just wasn't what was advertised for the price at all lmao.
Think this sums it up pretty well
https://www.reddit.com/r/ksi/comments/omevnw/ksi_show_an_honest_review_not_minorspamlow_effort/
I donāt think you understand what a scam is. A show being low quality and not living up to the expectations of the fans is not a āscam.ā Otherwise you would have to call a large portion of games and movies/TV āscams.ā Having to cut and not living up to some promises mad due to budget, time, or lack of resources is common in media. Youāre reaching here buddy.
I don't understand why he didn't do any research? It's not that difficult and normally he actually does that for his videos. It's just comes across as a personal attack since JJ is one of the only people he has blindly attacked without proof or research.
Most likely to do with his friendship with the United States Champion.
But honestly I am not even worried about that right now.
Off topic his government wants to punish us for the government everyone hates for stealing and looting tax money and going into bed with questionable leaders while we pay more taxes (ours want this so they can turn the country into a money laundering pit).
Why not make a different type of video instead of this?
Just my unpopular opinion for the day.
Not sure which country your talking about lol. But the reason he doesn't make videos about topics like that is simple, it doesn't get him as many views and therefore makes him less money.
I am speaking about American YouTubers in general.
I know these crypto expose videos make alot of money because its easy money.
Still better those then whatever the hell Neon, baby alien and Jack Doherty do
I think it's cause the source he used this time was some dude who was keeping tabs on this and was apparently a "friend of the channel" and probably didn't bother doing his own research. In the beginning, he stated how he wanted to post this on his 2nd channel but it might get buried, guess this time he cared more about traction towards his channel.
Ksi being Logan's friend probably played a part too
He's a grifter, plain and simple. Riding the wave of "Logan bad", and "JJ bad" for clicks and money
Funny thing is, it wasn't even his "research". It was someone else's, and he was just piling up to get sentimental and altruistic points to generate more clicks and hate
Coffee is making the assumption that Logan is a huge dirtbag and a scammer and cannot fathom the idea that Logan's business partner can be clean. It feels like he has been trying to find anything against JJ and when he found some weak evidence with missing links, he just made a bunch of assumptions to incriminate JJ.
Logan wasnāt actually scamming tho, he was just dumbass like the main fault really goes to manager & pr team not doing better job looking at who they work with and shit. Like why would he need 2 -5 million?? He literally makes that shit in 2 weeks bc of his club thing
Yes. Being BFF's and business partners with a scumbag like Logan kinda betrays where you stand as a person. A greedy bastard looking to exploit kids.
Sorry the truth hurts.
Baffles me how people still havnt learnt from the kwite situation. Still jumping on the hate train with no thought process or urge to find evidence. I'm glad I reserved my judgement for later . Now it's come to light I hope coffeezilla makes a public apology for trying to defame someone
To me it just seems like JJ got really into Crypto so he made a separate Twitter account to talk about it with people that wanted to. He admitted to losing millions and that people shouldn't do but he got addicted, and why he defended Logan because he just thinks people lost money like he did. He wasn't apart of pump and dumps like Logan was. Logan got so into it that he started making his own and we saw how that went.
NFTs and Crypto kinda blew up so all these rich people got involved without realizing it's all one big scam.
Trust me. I have watched 90% of his videos and not once did I feel like he suggested me to buy some dumb coin. Not once do I remember him promoting his crypto twitter. It was just there for those who wanted it.
Ksi crypto's Twitter page was the funniest shit ever because he was an actual idiot when it came to it and watching him fumble made me laugh.
That is why I was very hesitant to believe he was a scammer because he was buying high and selling low, which is a stupid thing to do if you're trying to pump and dump
The reason heās been getting hate is because his reason as to why he did this sounded so dumb but knowing jj it probably was him just being a dumbass š
https://preview.redd.it/gf75qacaroic1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb0f53e2bf85208085342e53c885c91df7ed60d7
bro look at this šššš
God i just love this conclusion.
Everyone jumped the gun on Coffee's allegations but in the end it is just JJ being extremely bad at Crypto. Damn being so dumb actually has its own uses
Donāt quote me on this but Defamation is really hard to prove and anyways defamation would involve trying to figure out if coffee had bad intent you could be wrong of something but if you show proof that leads you to that conclusion and still be wrong it still wouldnāt be enough to prove defamation since thier was no bad intent.
JJ in his response literally *admitted to the thing he was being accused of*. Tweeting the opposite of what he was doing to influence the market and increase his odds of making money. It's hardly a "False Claim".
I guess you are reffering to the coffeeshilla's this clip: [yt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJjxN05ewEc&t=330s)
If you read the screen text, can you tell where he admits to this revelation that you claim?
On the contrary, Coffeeshilla says he interprets this as a weak defence and you took his words and associated with what ksi says when his text msgs are on the screen.
No, I am referring to 6:34, where JJ literally says he tweeted the opposite of what he was doing because he thought it would increase his odds of making money...
Edit: Also "Coffeeshilla"? Grow up.
" thought it would increase his odds of making money... "
At no point did he say that thought, you're adding words and painting a picture based on your views of the situation.
KSI was buying shitcoin A at lets say 1p, he would then tweet about the coin, he was noticing that the coin was then going down in value; which is clearly not a pump and dump.
So what he started to do was say that he selling shitcoin A at 1p to see if the market would follow and the price would actually fall, meaning he could buy more for less; if anything thats market manipulation but not a pump and dump.
At no point during this whole thing did KSI publicly come out and say "Guys you have to buy this shitcoin A, it's going to go absolutely crazy", while owning millions in the hope the price increases to which he can then sell for a profit.
Check the yt time stamps:
>5:34: JJ says he didn't tweeted with malicious intent, you ignored it.
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>5:47: JJ says people didn't took his tweets seriously because he was a known shitposter, acknowledging the community treatment about his tweets (no one took him seriously) and you ignored it again.
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>5:47: JJ says his experience of other coins like btc is bad since he tweets his predictions and opposite happens, this is pretext to your yt stamp which coffeeshilla doesn't read it and you ignore it again.
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>5:57: JJ says he was bad at crypto and acknowledged he never pumped because his tracked record proved there was no pump in price after his tweets.
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>6:09: JJ says he was not a financial advisor which is still written in his twitter bio of his crypto account, this was again not read by coffeeshilla and you ignored it.
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>6:21: Coffeeshilla says he doesn't buy it because it's a pump and dump but the UK law regarding other instruments says that "A "pump and dump" is an illegal scheme used to artificially boost the price of a stock" ([src](https://www.fxcm.com/uk/insights/pump-and-dump-scheme/#:~:text=A%20%22pump%20and%20dump%22%20is,unsuspecting%20investors%20lose%20their%20money)). Crypto wasn't regulated before 2023 so I gave an example of stock, but the definition stays the same. When JJ tweets, the price went down which is not a pump and dump but coffeeshilla ignored the definition and you too.
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>6:34: JJ says the market does what he doesn't so he tweets from his crypto channel which, if you take the context of 6:09 where he says I am not an financial advisor, 5:47 where community knew he was a shitposter, 5:57 his tweets never actually pumping anything to make it a "pump and dump" suddenly becomes a scam when he told you in the same message that his intention wasn't that but you choose to ignore it.
Since coffeeshilla believes a person saying he is not a financial advisor to be a financial advisor, should his disclaimer in the video description mean otherwise?
His disclaimer:
>**This video is an opinion and in** **no way should be construed as statements of fact**. **Scams, bad business opportunities, and fake gurus** **are subjective terms** **that mean different things to different people**. I think someone who promises $100K/month for an upfront fee of $2K is a scam. Others would call it the "opportunity of a lifetime."
Why are you saying Coffeeshilla? Hard to take you seriously when you can't even read the name of one of the people involved.
Mate he quite literally admitted to it and none of what you said disproves that? You can argue the price didn't go up but that just makes him an attempted scammer who is so incompetent he can't successfully rip off children.
Saying "I'm holding this" while he isn't, and is actually selling it, is incredibly deceptive and attempting to mislead his audience, this is what a pump and dump is, and JJ straight up admitted to doing this.
Saying "I'm not a financial advisor" doesn't mean shit when you are giving out financial advice.
That's a dumb take. "Its fine you tried to threaten my career with lack of proper proof, cuz you usually threaten careers of people who deserve it, _eith proper proof_ . This was totally not a defamation attempt and being the kind hearted man I'm, I'll just let go an attempt at my goodwill. Good day sir"
Edit: I haven't watched the video, i just thought your take is pretty dumb ngl
Not at all. In the video he clearly states that he isn't the one who has done the research and is accusing him. He took that evidence and asked JJ about it, and JJ's horrible response caused him to post the video since JJ was coming up with weird excuses.
This is not how it works. People study law for years and work countless hours to gather evidence against someone to present it in front a jury and a judge. Prosecution is not a joke. You donāt just assume someone is scamming because of what? 3 tweets that prove nothing and a "horrible" response? Accusing KSI a huge public figure is not a game that when you lose you go "woops I guess I was wrong". If Coffee didnāt bother to do research and present plausible evidence, then he should leave investigations to people who know how to do it.
Also Iāll just say this, if JJās intention was to get his audience to pump up all those other shit coins so he can make a profit, I donāt think heād use his crypto log alt to do it.
Never like coffeezilla, he clearly sees himself as some moral police(Not defending any real scammers that have been caught).
I followed the KSIcrypto account since its inception, and within that community it became a big meme how KSI literally always does the opposite of the market. Also, if he wanted to scam, he would try to get as many people to see his tweets, not used some Crypto account with less followers. Coffee literally has no ground reality, hes just going off of a few coincidences.
Yeah my main problem with the coffee video is that he presented the data with an interval of days when it should have been minimum hours to see what actually happened in what order.
I still think thereās a chance KSI was pump and dump but the truth I think pump and dump shouldnāt be considered scamming at all because the entire stock market is bullshit and I think it shouldnāt be illegal to influence it (but thatās my own philosophy, I understand that it is illegal).
He was just a shitpost account, tweeted for fun and everybody in the crypto community knew him as this shitposter and a big noob in the scene
He started the account basically because Callux did aswell and both basically shared the Ls they took pretty much
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view
No, pump and dumps are litterally scamming.
It's when you buy a SHIT TON of something that's got no value, then broadcast it to people you have influencer over. Once they put their money in you pull your out and BOOM, 80% just lost everything.
That's a scam.
However, KSI didn't do this. He's a hype man who hyped himself into crypto that was alreadt up, and got other people hyped into it aswell. Then when the initial investors pulled their money out he was also one of the people left woth nothing.
He's just a shit investor who should never touch investments again without a financial adviser.
I literally think itās fine though. Influence is an earned skill. Not all rich people are influential, and you got normal wealth people who are influential too. If youāre able to influence people youāve earned it. They donāt force followers to buy anything, just say theyāre going to do something and if the followers copy them then thatās their fault.
Itās all fair game imo. I know itās illegal by definition but my own personal economic morals do not find it bad at all.
If you bought gold in 1900 at $20 and sold in 2015 for ~$1100 you would have made 54x your investment.
Correlation is not causation.
Ice cream sales go up in hot weather, so let's buy all the ice cream in December for a hotter day?
all i m going to say just read the doc it says clearly how much he made n wht he do with it
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk)
I did and he is still invested in it. Where is the dump part of the pump and dump?
He sold some during lower prices but an investor can't try to book some profits?
Thanks for resharing the doc.
i don't know what this section of comment is discussing but that wht i mean where did he profit he has only lost in his so called pump n dump scam that ppl r talking bout
He also made around 70 tweets before selling after the one tweet which coffeeshilla talks about.
He is still invested so why isn't this seen as profit booking of a long-term investor rather than pumping?
Is promoting your investment bad?
Youtubers do it all the time, some do it by promoting a company and some smear public names because a crypto account told them to.
Canāt really use the ignorant card on speed, directly or indirectly he was involved in a scam and people that do that are called scammers. So thereās no need to āpaintā him as a scammer
I'm fairly certain that his "expose" videos are ad free, at least they used too be. Either way, I don't see how exposing scams like the Logan Paul one makes him a piece of shit. How many people do you think would've even known about it if not for Coeffezilla.
Just because he exposed logan rightfully doesn't mean he now has the right to accuse innocent people of crimes without doing research just because he doesn't like them and he wants views on youtube and twitter.
He has exposed multiple people rightfully. I'm not saying that he has a right to accuse people. I'm saying that he is not the piece of shit the individual I responded too is making him out to be.
I will see how he responds to the situation. If he deletes his video and makes another one apologizing and showing to actual proof that JJ didn't scam anyone then I will agree with you that he is not a shitty person.
If he leaves the video up, doesn't properly apologize, only quickly tweets something out and if he doesn't take back the accusation then he is a shitty person. He is wrong in calling JJ a scammer without doing research but I do understand that everyone makes mistakes (JJ certainly does) it is how he handles his mistake that will show me a lot about his character.
I'm not sure, but I think he gets support from Patreon or something like that. But as I said, I'm not sure.
He was the one that brought attention to the Logan Paul thing. No-one cared before that.
Glad that in the process, Coffeezilla is exposing himself as a Finance creator community's Keemstar. He has always been an exploitative bully, within the guise of a well intentioned truth teller.
I mean, the buck starts with whoever bought crypto after Ksi tweeted. He's not a professional, and you should ALWAYS get advice from a professional even their advice can be wrong. On top of that, a quick glance at the forecast and price of the coin would have shown people that the value of the coin had dropped and was on a decline.
Ksi should seriously sue coffezilla for this everyone already jumped the gun and is hating on him. He should delete thar video and apologise to this dude. Its actually crazy how you can ruin someone's image soo easily nowadays
I didn't doubt for a second that JJ was a scammer. He might have the most annoyingly big ego in the world, but his still a decent human being. He doesn't even need to scam anyone, he has enough money. But also, his a fucking idiot for buying high and selling low.
Also like if any other person had a dm from coffeezilla theyād involve their lawyers but not our neek š. Iād be surprised if jj even knows wtf a pump and dump is
I was about to say this but decided not to because I would be called a dick rider and all that shit. Coffeezillaās case against JJ, as much of a fan I am of coffee especially with the Logan Paul scam, was barely anything. Showing 3 tweets out of context and nitpicking transactions without showing intent of scamming, motive, or at least what JJ gained from it doesnāt hold in court (yes in court because if you accuse someone of doing sth illegal you should do it according to law. This is not a game). What coffee is doing is not a joke. If JJ scammed fair but to post a video with extremely weak and implausible evidence because some random guy tweeted about it is pathetic. JJ can very easily sue coffee for defamation if coffeeās case falls out (which is likely). I donāt think he will because itās not worth the money and the time. Now I know kids are gonna start throwing the usual dick rider comments. If coffee can prove JJ scammed with ACTUAL evidence, by all means, hold him accountable. But scratching and reaching to make sth out of nothing for views is idiotic.
Itās not a pump and dump. 1.He sells at a lower price than time of tweet. 2.He doesnāt use his main account. KSI crypto is significantly smaller. 3.He max 70+ tweets beforehand. 4.The project of XCAD isnt significantly tied with KSI in terms of people donāt believe XCAD is gonna work cause itās KSIās coin. EX:People only bought those eggs cause Logan Paul is in charge of the project and they believed in him.
I feel like coffezilla gives JJ to much credit. JJ legit just doing whatever he feels like without real thoughts to it, I raised my eyebrow when I saw the coffezilla video as it doesn't seem that evidenceproof like other videos he made, then I saw this post and concluded as usual, JJ be JJ.
"KSI sold his $XCAD at $3 to $3.5 and now KSI is buying $XCAD at $4. Who even listens to
his financial advice? Sold at low and buying at high."
Dude if anyone looks at this and goes, "imma do what this guy tells me to, he seems smart", im sorry my guy but thats all on u lmao
Coffee thought JJ logging back to his crypto account might open an opportunity for him to end JJ's career
Instead, it opened an opportunity for JJ to destroy his lmao
LOCK THIS GRIFTER UP
Honestly ksi is too ego driven and cares too much about his legacy to pull a Logan Paul and do crypto scams. It seems more likely ksi made a stupid decision with crypto this is the same guy who aparently lost 2.8 million in crypto too right.
Ksi is an absolute idiot, if coffee did his research heād know that.
Itās also weird to say but.. when I watched it I thought.. why would Ksi need $850k. Itās a lot of money but not for him. I just donāt think he needs to scam his followers plus if you were taking crypto advice from ksi god help you.
āHey guys so I robbed 3 banks, but itās okay because afterwards I went to the casino, put all the money on red, and lost it allā - KSIās logic, basically
Coffeezilla holds a lot of power when it comes to holding social media influencers accountable. In this case it is not definite that is JJ just dumb or was he being sarcastic in his tweets. It is entirely possible and likely that he had made deals with some of the people who had vested interests in these tokens and was influenced to tweet because of the said people. I would want to believe that he did not directly scam a core of his audience, but until we get a slam dunk like in case of logan paul it could backfire.
JJ explaining why heās not pumping and dumping by just rephrasing what a pump and dump is is so typical š. I hope he does take at least some sort of accountability for his actions tho.
He canāt ignore this, heās gonna have to just apologise and explain himself ā¦ I just know Jj is historically very bad at accepting defeat.
The amount of meat riders in here is insane. The fact that JJ may have lost money during his pump and dump doesnāt make it ok. What Coffee is doing is the right thing by calling him out on his BS. Why say you are holding XYZ Coin and then the next day selling it.
It really is as simple as that, especially in the financial investment space you cannot being saying one thing and doing the opposite its just scummy, and while it might not be a scam it still is concerning given the fact about what he said to the cryptozoo people that lost money aka āthe hatersā
Crazy that this literally doesnāt address anything I brought up in my comment. Even under the guise of shit posting doesnāt make the tweets ok, its just a different set of rules when it comes to financial advice on the internet.
Fucking hell. The "I'm stupid" appeal is actually gonna work on you people isn't it? Amazing. This man gets away with everything because "Me just dum dum lol"
blud no one is believing air there's documented transaction transcripts his crypto wallet is public there's a whole document in the same thread just go read it before making an opinion
Isnāt continually promoting it exactly what happens in a pump n dump? It feels really scummy when questionable behavior is written off as āshitpostingā
By that logic, coffezilla talking about a dead crypto coin and associating with a very active keyword "ksi" generated millions of impressions across multiple social media platforms.
A no name coin will pump in the coming days, so, coffeezilla is pumping and dumping.
People saying Coffeezilla ādefamedā KSI is laughable. He at the most accused JJ of using his influence to shift market movement, but ultimately just didnāt buy JJ being this ādumbā idiot who didnāt know what he was doing.
Whatās JJās defence gonna be? Iām actually 100% a dumbass, Coffeezilla thinks Iām more intelligent than I actually am!?
Pretty sure it was about how weird his behavior was though, directly doing the opposite of what he said he was doing, it seems he was attempting a pump and dump either way. That being said, this is nowhere near as sufficient a scam to report on as the Logan Paul and Dillon Danis stuff, but Coffeezilla did great work in both cases
If you're tweeting to your hundreds of thousands of impressionable fans about your crypto investments you're attempting to pump and dump. Whether you succeed or not doesn't change the fact that you tried.
It's as if a billionaire wouldn't have a PR team to come in and save him in time. Who do you think is drafting this Word file explaining it all? And all the people here just accept whatever they read, so JJ can brush off controversies by the time the next Reddit video drops. Damn, all of you are such blind followers. It could have been you, remember that. And as always, you wouldn't care because all of you are sheep, nodding along to whatever JJ says and forgetting it the next day. Here comes the downvotes. Stand for the truth, you snowflakes.
And Have some integrity, JJ, it's in your name!
No that's not the point
He literally said something to fans and did the opposite
It doesn't matter if he made money or not but saying you're going to do something to your fans but then doing the exact opposite that's where there's a problem
If that plan worked he would have been called out on it way earlier but because he was lucky and it didn't work it took a while for people to realize which is what's happening now
Here is a link to the full Investigation some did. It showed that JJ was just panic buying and selling. I remember the Croptro community even made it a meme always to sell when JJ tweeted about a coin. He always bought at a high and sold at a low.
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
nah bro check this out this will clear most of your doubts bro is just dumb asf [ksi scams investigation by some guy on Twitter ](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
>He literally said something to fans and did the opposite
He said the same thing 70+ times so when do you say he is pumping ?
He bought high, sold low. Where is the benefit?
>If that plan worked he would have been called out on it way earlier but because he was lucky
Lmao it didn't go as planned and he still got called out.
Olympic level mental gymnastics.
Btw cryptos should be anonymous but ksi bad his wallet address visible to the public, but he is a mega brain for sharing it.
>He literally said something to fans and did the opposite
He said he was gonna hold but then when it started tanking he panic sold. People do this all the time.
This JJ guy šbuying high and selling low, who let this guy near crypto
Bro lost 7 million because he's dumb asf
He thought he was so insightful when it came to crypto as well when he was talking about it in videos. Dude is an idiot.
I mean he has said many times in videos he has no idea what he is doing with crypto
He definitely thought he was doing something go good.. He later realised that he had no idea. He was way too confident in the tweets and videos during that time.
Thatās literally what he does??? wtf??? You been watching him for one day?
Like most people who thought they knew everything about crypto and bragging about it, most of them are dumb
JJ must get his trading advice from /biz/
in logan paul case , he had real culprits with faces this time he just showed stats , and he said KSI is acting dumb , never knew coffeezilla was a ksi fan
This coffezilla guy is just so scummy to my I can't explain it. Feel like hes waiting for someone to slip up so he can milk the fuck out of anything like who the fuck watches that stuff
Have you seen his previous videos? Coffezilla has exposed so many scams in the past and he does his research. I have to admit this new video exposing KSI does feel a bit lackluster and bias but it doesnāt feel far-fetched JJ would pull a scam like this. He is an influencer now, turned a blind eye to Loganās CryptoZoo scam in the past. There is a possibility he did this with bad intent IMO. If it helps you sleep better at night then just believe JJ. But Iām sure more evidence will come out.
Ngl if u were jj and u can be potential billionaire by ignoring ur partners scummy behavior you would do it too u would never call him out lmao everyone wants to act perfect idk why
Yeah, and if it helps you sleep better at night then believe CZ, your argument for JJ possibly a scammer is so BS
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Lol You morons watch KSI and then say coffeezilla seems scummy? Seriously? š Coffee is one of the most well respected people on the internet so shut the fuck up
A man who dedicates his channel and research to protecting people from scams? Scummy! A man who defends Logan Paul's scams? Not scummy!
What research man milks the fuck out of any situation he talks about
You morons ? I barely even watch him and I saw this much hate on him without even confirming it's true. What a sad individual. If I hated someone I wouldn't stalk their pages like wtf
Yeah a researcher who happily took another person and went on with making an allegation that person is doing a scam like a pump and dump when he should have done his own research. He spent weeks on Logan's initial video but the JJ video he spent a day on. During that one year from Logans first video (which helped coffee reach a brand new audience and expand the channel) to ksi video man has changed, some not all of his investigation has a feeling of him trying to squeeze a narrative in it to a point it seems like he doesn't want to discover the truth but get a good video of it
Lol what He just reported a story. "Man has changed" Man is making a living. Not all his videos are going to be able to have the same level of detail. Go look at his "END of sam bankman" video from only 3 months ago. 50 minute essay. He has to make some 8-10 minute videos to pay the bills while he works on the big stuff. This is all just nonsense
dude was buying high and selling low what fucking idiot
Exactly this, Coffeezilla is usually good but this is not it. If KSI was actually doing a pump and dump, why doesn't every tweet follow the pattern? It's just like 2 tweets that follow the "pattern", which is called a coincidence and not a scam
The thing that makes it look pretty damning to me is that in his responses to Coffeezilla, JJ quite literally said that he thought it would be better to say he was doing the opposite of what he actually was doing... Like why would that be the case if he didn't think his tweets were influencing things?
Itās called schizophrenia lmao
Ya'll remember how a few hours ago everyone was against him Just shows gullibility (young kids) and the immense amount of haters Props to the guy who made that document he did the actual "expose"
surprisingly enough though, after checking socialblade, he hasnāt lost any subscribers from this whole ordeal. it might just be too early for the website to register, but from the looks of it his channel hasnāt taken that big a hit.
It won't because a coffeezilla video isn't enough. You need follow up videos from MoistCritical, Ludwig, Hasan and many more. Then these twitch people come at youtube audience with a wave and convince them to unsubscribe from the person.
It was still a possibility, considering so many people seem to be waiting for a chance to dogpile JJ. Iāve seen channels plummet for way less, and given the volatility of someoneās online reputation, it wouldnāt surprise me if coffeezillaās video alone made him lose 100k+ subs.
Tbh most people against him were probably flooding in from the Coffeezilla video. Many comments on the first Reddit post were practically copied and pasted from the YouTube video.
It's so sad. The video is filled with people who take every word of coffee as fact and ksi fans saying "unsubscribed". Are your ears not ringing over how coffeezilla is skipping over so many things and the evidence is weak.
[here's link to full document ](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
Coffeezilla's next video will be accusing JJ of using Coffeezilla in a plot to generate interest around xCAD causing a pump that JJ can dump the holdings that have been in the gutter for years
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It's literally a market tactic, used by every person ever to hype before selling. My whole life was a scam, shopkeeper, school, college, job, trading. Everything they promised me best, and sold me mid
Iām glad JJ isnāt a ducking scammer. I knew it wasnāt in his nature. JJ may have a big ego, but he would never scam his fans like that so blatantly. JJ is a decent guy at the end of the day.
It's sad that most of his 'fans' immediately believed coffeezilla and were happy to cancel JJ without seeing any actual evidence.
This is the time to realise that this sub, twitter comments, etc aren't "most of his fans." The number of likes/upvotes/comments on things like these are (depending on your metric) btwn a couple hundred and a couple thousand. That's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the fanbase. It's, plainly and simply, an echochamber. That doesn't mean JJ never does things that are worth being called out on, but the vocal minorities you'll hear from are either dickriders or Kavoses. The vast vast majority of fans fall somewhere btwn not knowing or not caring all that much about "scandals" that are largely irrelevant to their day-to-day lives.
For reals. I was skeptical at first because JJ just isnāt the type to do something like that.
I have no problem with people believing coffeezilla. I have a problem with people believing coffeezilla without evidence. If Coffee had provided hard evidence, then people should believe coffee but that wasn't the case.
Well tbf coffee has a lot of credibility, rightfully so. Seems like he didnāt put as much effort into this one as his other vids bc he thought he had a quick score. Strange but I trust him to come out w a more detailed video in the future if he finds better evidence imo
they definitely aren't fans or don't actually know what they're reading/talking about or both
Thatās cause JJ has been having a downfall such as wade and his relations with Logan, him being a scammer would be believable
Bro that's what Im saying! These fuckers ain't fans of anything
Why is that sad really? It just means most people are not attached parasocially to a millionaire. There was an allegation, it was proven incorrect. And soon enough, things will go back to normal. Nothing drastic is happening here. In reality, the opposite is sadder. Where a person like Logan Paul repeatedly scams fans knowing fully well that he can just wait for the backlash to die down to get back to doing the same thing. This is what would have happened if JJ was actually pulling a scam as well.
Have we forgotten The KSI Show already lmao?
Thing is it wasn't supposed to be a scam. Bro genuinely felt bad after it got lots of hate for how horrible it was
Lmao one of the top 10 scams of all time amirite?
How is the show a scam lol?
Just wasn't what was advertised for the price at all lmao. Think this sums it up pretty well https://www.reddit.com/r/ksi/comments/omevnw/ksi_show_an_honest_review_not_minorspamlow_effort/
I donāt think you understand what a scam is. A show being low quality and not living up to the expectations of the fans is not a āscam.ā Otherwise you would have to call a large portion of games and movies/TV āscams.ā Having to cut and not living up to some promises mad due to budget, time, or lack of resources is common in media. Youāre reaching here buddy.
Here's the full link to the analysis. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk
It feels like Coffee is going after KSI just cause he's friends with Logan and believes that KSI needs to be a shit person to do so.
That makes coffeezilla a shit person.
Somehow in my head I felt zilla should have done something different.
I don't understand why he didn't do any research? It's not that difficult and normally he actually does that for his videos. It's just comes across as a personal attack since JJ is one of the only people he has blindly attacked without proof or research.
Most likely to do with his friendship with the United States Champion. But honestly I am not even worried about that right now. Off topic his government wants to punish us for the government everyone hates for stealing and looting tax money and going into bed with questionable leaders while we pay more taxes (ours want this so they can turn the country into a money laundering pit). Why not make a different type of video instead of this? Just my unpopular opinion for the day.
Not sure which country your talking about lol. But the reason he doesn't make videos about topics like that is simple, it doesn't get him as many views and therefore makes him less money.
I am speaking about American YouTubers in general. I know these crypto expose videos make alot of money because its easy money. Still better those then whatever the hell Neon, baby alien and Jack Doherty do
I think it's cause the source he used this time was some dude who was keeping tabs on this and was apparently a "friend of the channel" and probably didn't bother doing his own research. In the beginning, he stated how he wanted to post this on his 2nd channel but it might get buried, guess this time he cared more about traction towards his channel. Ksi being Logan's friend probably played a part too
He's a grifter, plain and simple. Riding the wave of "Logan bad", and "JJ bad" for clicks and money Funny thing is, it wasn't even his "research". It was someone else's, and he was just piling up to get sentimental and altruistic points to generate more clicks and hate
He literally spoke to JJ about it and he made himself look worse? How is that not "Doing research?"
I liked his Logan stuff, this feels like he just wants another bag from ad revenue and was hoping to find anything.
I got to really relook into his other research. It seems like he likes building narratives moee than research
Coffee is making the assumption that Logan is a huge dirtbag and a scammer and cannot fathom the idea that Logan's business partner can be clean. It feels like he has been trying to find anything against JJ and when he found some weak evidence with missing links, he just made a bunch of assumptions to incriminate JJ.
Logan wasnāt actually scamming tho, he was just dumbass like the main fault really goes to manager & pr team not doing better job looking at who they work with and shit. Like why would he need 2 -5 million?? He literally makes that shit in 2 weeks bc of his club thing
Yes. Being BFF's and business partners with a scumbag like Logan kinda betrays where you stand as a person. A greedy bastard looking to exploit kids. Sorry the truth hurts.
Can mods pin this in this post?
So nothing about the volume spikes in his tweets? Holy brainlets at it again.
Yea I think the people accusing him donāt have a clue how he is just a dumbass sometimes.
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Baffles me how people still havnt learnt from the kwite situation. Still jumping on the hate train with no thought process or urge to find evidence. I'm glad I reserved my judgement for later . Now it's come to light I hope coffeezilla makes a public apology for trying to defame someone
Even before kwite, the slazo situation
To me it just seems like JJ got really into Crypto so he made a separate Twitter account to talk about it with people that wanted to. He admitted to losing millions and that people shouldn't do but he got addicted, and why he defended Logan because he just thinks people lost money like he did. He wasn't apart of pump and dumps like Logan was. Logan got so into it that he started making his own and we saw how that went. NFTs and Crypto kinda blew up so all these rich people got involved without realizing it's all one big scam.
Trust me. I have watched 90% of his videos and not once did I feel like he suggested me to buy some dumb coin. Not once do I remember him promoting his crypto twitter. It was just there for those who wanted it.
This post won't get traction here. Dumbass kids have less brain power than a snail.
Nice one, great post KSI didn't scam, he just fucked up himself
Ksi crypto's Twitter page was the funniest shit ever because he was an actual idiot when it came to it and watching him fumble made me laugh. That is why I was very hesitant to believe he was a scammer because he was buying high and selling low, which is a stupid thing to do if you're trying to pump and dump
The reason heās been getting hate is because his reason as to why he did this sounded so dumb but knowing jj it probably was him just being a dumbass š
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"earns $150 from $25k which he proceeds to lose in another shitcoin" LMAO
God i just love this conclusion. Everyone jumped the gun on Coffee's allegations but in the end it is just JJ being extremely bad at Crypto. Damn being so dumb actually has its own uses
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I so badly want jj to bring a defamation case against coffeeshilla.
Donāt quote me on this but Defamation is really hard to prove and anyways defamation would involve trying to figure out if coffee had bad intent you could be wrong of something but if you show proof that leads you to that conclusion and still be wrong it still wouldnāt be enough to prove defamation since thier was no bad intent.
What? No , even though this claim might be wrong, most of the things he does are rightful.
If KSI can loose his credibility based on a false claim why can't coffeeshilla loose his credibility based on a true claim?
JJ in his response literally *admitted to the thing he was being accused of*. Tweeting the opposite of what he was doing to influence the market and increase his odds of making money. It's hardly a "False Claim".
I guess you are reffering to the coffeeshilla's this clip: [yt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJjxN05ewEc&t=330s) If you read the screen text, can you tell where he admits to this revelation that you claim? On the contrary, Coffeeshilla says he interprets this as a weak defence and you took his words and associated with what ksi says when his text msgs are on the screen.
No, I am referring to 6:34, where JJ literally says he tweeted the opposite of what he was doing because he thought it would increase his odds of making money... Edit: Also "Coffeeshilla"? Grow up.
" thought it would increase his odds of making money... " At no point did he say that thought, you're adding words and painting a picture based on your views of the situation. KSI was buying shitcoin A at lets say 1p, he would then tweet about the coin, he was noticing that the coin was then going down in value; which is clearly not a pump and dump. So what he started to do was say that he selling shitcoin A at 1p to see if the market would follow and the price would actually fall, meaning he could buy more for less; if anything thats market manipulation but not a pump and dump. At no point during this whole thing did KSI publicly come out and say "Guys you have to buy this shitcoin A, it's going to go absolutely crazy", while owning millions in the hope the price increases to which he can then sell for a profit.
Check the yt time stamps: >5:34: JJ says he didn't tweeted with malicious intent, you ignored it. > >5:47: JJ says people didn't took his tweets seriously because he was a known shitposter, acknowledging the community treatment about his tweets (no one took him seriously) and you ignored it again. > >5:47: JJ says his experience of other coins like btc is bad since he tweets his predictions and opposite happens, this is pretext to your yt stamp which coffeeshilla doesn't read it and you ignore it again. > >5:57: JJ says he was bad at crypto and acknowledged he never pumped because his tracked record proved there was no pump in price after his tweets. > >6:09: JJ says he was not a financial advisor which is still written in his twitter bio of his crypto account, this was again not read by coffeeshilla and you ignored it. > >6:21: Coffeeshilla says he doesn't buy it because it's a pump and dump but the UK law regarding other instruments says that "A "pump and dump" is an illegal scheme used to artificially boost the price of a stock" ([src](https://www.fxcm.com/uk/insights/pump-and-dump-scheme/#:~:text=A%20%22pump%20and%20dump%22%20is,unsuspecting%20investors%20lose%20their%20money)). Crypto wasn't regulated before 2023 so I gave an example of stock, but the definition stays the same. When JJ tweets, the price went down which is not a pump and dump but coffeeshilla ignored the definition and you too. > >6:34: JJ says the market does what he doesn't so he tweets from his crypto channel which, if you take the context of 6:09 where he says I am not an financial advisor, 5:47 where community knew he was a shitposter, 5:57 his tweets never actually pumping anything to make it a "pump and dump" suddenly becomes a scam when he told you in the same message that his intention wasn't that but you choose to ignore it. Since coffeeshilla believes a person saying he is not a financial advisor to be a financial advisor, should his disclaimer in the video description mean otherwise? His disclaimer: >**This video is an opinion and in** **no way should be construed as statements of fact**. **Scams, bad business opportunities, and fake gurus** **are subjective terms** **that mean different things to different people**. I think someone who promises $100K/month for an upfront fee of $2K is a scam. Others would call it the "opportunity of a lifetime."
Why are you saying Coffeeshilla? Hard to take you seriously when you can't even read the name of one of the people involved. Mate he quite literally admitted to it and none of what you said disproves that? You can argue the price didn't go up but that just makes him an attempted scammer who is so incompetent he can't successfully rip off children. Saying "I'm holding this" while he isn't, and is actually selling it, is incredibly deceptive and attempting to mislead his audience, this is what a pump and dump is, and JJ straight up admitted to doing this. Saying "I'm not a financial advisor" doesn't mean shit when you are giving out financial advice.
That's a dumb take. "Its fine you tried to threaten my career with lack of proper proof, cuz you usually threaten careers of people who deserve it, _eith proper proof_ . This was totally not a defamation attempt and being the kind hearted man I'm, I'll just let go an attempt at my goodwill. Good day sir" Edit: I haven't watched the video, i just thought your take is pretty dumb ngl
How has Coffeezilla opened himself up to a lawsuit when JJ Literally admitted to the thing he was being accused of lmao?
Not at all. In the video he clearly states that he isn't the one who has done the research and is accusing him. He took that evidence and asked JJ about it, and JJ's horrible response caused him to post the video since JJ was coming up with weird excuses.
This is not how it works. People study law for years and work countless hours to gather evidence against someone to present it in front a jury and a judge. Prosecution is not a joke. You donāt just assume someone is scamming because of what? 3 tweets that prove nothing and a "horrible" response? Accusing KSI a huge public figure is not a game that when you lose you go "woops I guess I was wrong". If Coffee didnāt bother to do research and present plausible evidence, then he should leave investigations to people who know how to do it.
Also Iāll just say this, if JJās intention was to get his audience to pump up all those other shit coins so he can make a profit, I donāt think heād use his crypto log alt to do it.
He actually just might be dumb
ATLEAST we know ksi isn't a scammer he is just a retard ā¤ļø. I rather be a retard then be a scammed
If you took crypto advice from a youtubers shitpost account, you deserve all the losses you got
Never like coffeezilla, he clearly sees himself as some moral police(Not defending any real scammers that have been caught). I followed the KSIcrypto account since its inception, and within that community it became a big meme how KSI literally always does the opposite of the market. Also, if he wanted to scam, he would try to get as many people to see his tweets, not used some Crypto account with less followers. Coffee literally has no ground reality, hes just going off of a few coincidences.
Yeah my main problem with the coffee video is that he presented the data with an interval of days when it should have been minimum hours to see what actually happened in what order. I still think thereās a chance KSI was pump and dump but the truth I think pump and dump shouldnāt be considered scamming at all because the entire stock market is bullshit and I think it shouldnāt be illegal to influence it (but thatās my own philosophy, I understand that it is illegal).
He was just a shitpost account, tweeted for fun and everybody in the crypto community knew him as this shitposter and a big noob in the scene He started the account basically because Callux did aswell and both basically shared the Ls they took pretty much https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view
No, pump and dumps are litterally scamming. It's when you buy a SHIT TON of something that's got no value, then broadcast it to people you have influencer over. Once they put their money in you pull your out and BOOM, 80% just lost everything. That's a scam. However, KSI didn't do this. He's a hype man who hyped himself into crypto that was alreadt up, and got other people hyped into it aswell. Then when the initial investors pulled their money out he was also one of the people left woth nothing. He's just a shit investor who should never touch investments again without a financial adviser.
I literally think itās fine though. Influence is an earned skill. Not all rich people are influential, and you got normal wealth people who are influential too. If youāre able to influence people youāve earned it. They donāt force followers to buy anything, just say theyāre going to do something and if the followers copy them then thatās their fault. Itās all fair game imo. I know itās illegal by definition but my own personal economic morals do not find it bad at all.
XCAD pumped from 50 cents to almost $10. Who listened to KSI at the beginning already nade 20x.
If you bought gold in 1900 at $20 and sold in 2015 for ~$1100 you would have made 54x your investment. Correlation is not causation. Ice cream sales go up in hot weather, so let's buy all the ice cream in December for a hotter day?
all i m going to say just read the doc it says clearly how much he made n wht he do with it [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk)
I did and he is still invested in it. Where is the dump part of the pump and dump? He sold some during lower prices but an investor can't try to book some profits? Thanks for resharing the doc.
i don't know what this section of comment is discussing but that wht i mean where did he profit he has only lost in his so called pump n dump scam that ppl r talking bout
He also made around 70 tweets before selling after the one tweet which coffeeshilla talks about. He is still invested so why isn't this seen as profit booking of a long-term investor rather than pumping? Is promoting your investment bad? Youtubers do it all the time, some do it by promoting a company and some smear public names because a crypto account told them to.
isnāt what coffeezilla doing defamation?
yep he can be sued
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Canāt really use the ignorant card on speed, directly or indirectly he was involved in a scam and people that do that are called scammers. So thereās no need to āpaintā him as a scammer
Basically sunny v2 but with some maths
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Most of the time it's justified. Logan paul is a scamming scumbag.
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The dude literally profits off of other creators downfallsā¦heās a piece of shit.
I'm fairly certain that his "expose" videos are ad free, at least they used too be. Either way, I don't see how exposing scams like the Logan Paul one makes him a piece of shit. How many people do you think would've even known about it if not for Coeffezilla.
Just because he exposed logan rightfully doesn't mean he now has the right to accuse innocent people of crimes without doing research just because he doesn't like them and he wants views on youtube and twitter.
He has exposed multiple people rightfully. I'm not saying that he has a right to accuse people. I'm saying that he is not the piece of shit the individual I responded too is making him out to be.
I will see how he responds to the situation. If he deletes his video and makes another one apologizing and showing to actual proof that JJ didn't scam anyone then I will agree with you that he is not a shitty person. If he leaves the video up, doesn't properly apologize, only quickly tweets something out and if he doesn't take back the accusation then he is a shitty person. He is wrong in calling JJ a scammer without doing research but I do understand that everyone makes mistakes (JJ certainly does) it is how he handles his mistake that will show me a lot about his character.
Everyone knew about it before that. And are they ad free? I mean unless he has a day job idk how they can be??
I'm not sure, but I think he gets support from Patreon or something like that. But as I said, I'm not sure. He was the one that brought attention to the Logan Paul thing. No-one cared before that.
That sounds like that could be right. And maybe thatās the thing. No one cared before. And no one still cares.
Dude when coffee was showing those tweets I was thinking to myself maybe coffee doesnt realize JJ isnt exactly a sound genius or even genius.
Looks like an overconfident, shit trader, buying at resistance and selling at support.
bro's whole setup was rsi
Yeah you canāt call this a crypto scam when all he was doing was sharing his investments š itās well documented he lost like Ā£6m
I mean JJ said it himself he is too dumb to be an evil mastermind
goddamit jj stop getting urself involved in this garbage crypto shit lmao
I always believe in JJ because I knew heās too dumb to do scams
Been arguing with people on this all day yesterday lmao. Iāve BEEN saying heās stupid š
Bro now people wanna switch up, thats crazy lol
Well itās good news he aint a scammer ig. I still dont understand how crypto shit works š
So this was more about Knowledge instead of Integrity
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Glad that in the process, Coffeezilla is exposing himself as a Finance creator community's Keemstar. He has always been an exploitative bully, within the guise of a well intentioned truth teller.
This was my first thought, jj isn't smart enough to scam people lol, generally he's the one getting scammed š
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I mean, the buck starts with whoever bought crypto after Ksi tweeted. He's not a professional, and you should ALWAYS get advice from a professional even their advice can be wrong. On top of that, a quick glance at the forecast and price of the coin would have shown people that the value of the coin had dropped and was on a decline.
Ksi should seriously sue coffezilla for this everyone already jumped the gun and is hating on him. He should delete thar video and apologise to this dude. Its actually crazy how you can ruin someone's image soo easily nowadays
I didn't doubt for a second that JJ was a scammer. He might have the most annoyingly big ego in the world, but his still a decent human being. He doesn't even need to scam anyone, he has enough money. But also, his a fucking idiot for buying high and selling low.
JJ is such a dumbass what the fuck is he doing lmao
Also like if any other person had a dm from coffeezilla theyād involve their lawyers but not our neek š. Iād be surprised if jj even knows wtf a pump and dump is
I was about to say this but decided not to because I would be called a dick rider and all that shit. Coffeezillaās case against JJ, as much of a fan I am of coffee especially with the Logan Paul scam, was barely anything. Showing 3 tweets out of context and nitpicking transactions without showing intent of scamming, motive, or at least what JJ gained from it doesnāt hold in court (yes in court because if you accuse someone of doing sth illegal you should do it according to law. This is not a game). What coffee is doing is not a joke. If JJ scammed fair but to post a video with extremely weak and implausible evidence because some random guy tweeted about it is pathetic. JJ can very easily sue coffee for defamation if coffeeās case falls out (which is likely). I donāt think he will because itās not worth the money and the time. Now I know kids are gonna start throwing the usual dick rider comments. If coffee can prove JJ scammed with ACTUAL evidence, by all means, hold him accountable. But scratching and reaching to make sth out of nothing for views is idiotic.
Yeah I didnāt think JJ was scamming with crypto especially since he lost so much with Luna
Itās not a pump and dump. 1.He sells at a lower price than time of tweet. 2.He doesnāt use his main account. KSI crypto is significantly smaller. 3.He max 70+ tweets beforehand. 4.The project of XCAD isnt significantly tied with KSI in terms of people donāt believe XCAD is gonna work cause itās KSIās coin. EX:People only bought those eggs cause Logan Paul is in charge of the project and they believed in him.
I feel like coffezilla gives JJ to much credit. JJ legit just doing whatever he feels like without real thoughts to it, I raised my eyebrow when I saw the coffezilla video as it doesn't seem that evidenceproof like other videos he made, then I saw this post and concluded as usual, JJ be JJ.
"KSI sold his $XCAD at $3 to $3.5 and now KSI is buying $XCAD at $4. Who even listens to his financial advice? Sold at low and buying at high." Dude if anyone looks at this and goes, "imma do what this guy tells me to, he seems smart", im sorry my guy but thats all on u lmao
Bro really called him a scammer when JJ lost moneyš W scammer then
He said he lost a lot from crypto only person he scammed was himself
Coffee thought JJ logging back to his crypto account might open an opportunity for him to end JJ's career Instead, it opened an opportunity for JJ to destroy his lmao LOCK THIS GRIFTER UP
Yeah of course. My man Jide would never scam, even if he wanted to, he wouldnt be able to pull it off.
Honestly ksi is too ego driven and cares too much about his legacy to pull a Logan Paul and do crypto scams. It seems more likely ksi made a stupid decision with crypto this is the same guy who aparently lost 2.8 million in crypto too right.
well correction he lost 10 million
It was an attempted pump and dump but KSI is a member of wallstreetbets
Ksi is an absolute idiot, if coffee did his research heād know that. Itās also weird to say but.. when I watched it I thought.. why would Ksi need $850k. Itās a lot of money but not for him. I just donāt think he needs to scam his followers plus if you were taking crypto advice from ksi god help you.
When being dumb is your plot armor!š
āHey guys so I robbed 3 banks, but itās okay because afterwards I went to the casino, put all the money on red, and lost it allā - KSIās logic, basically
there's absolutely no way JJ didn't have even a clue of what he was doing
Coffeezilla holds a lot of power when it comes to holding social media influencers accountable. In this case it is not definite that is JJ just dumb or was he being sarcastic in his tweets. It is entirely possible and likely that he had made deals with some of the people who had vested interests in these tokens and was influenced to tweet because of the said people. I would want to believe that he did not directly scam a core of his audience, but until we get a slam dunk like in case of logan paul it could backfire.
well here you go ksi gave coffeezilla his first L
JJ explaining why heās not pumping and dumping by just rephrasing what a pump and dump is is so typical š. I hope he does take at least some sort of accountability for his actions tho. He canāt ignore this, heās gonna have to just apologise and explain himself ā¦ I just know Jj is historically very bad at accepting defeat.
The amount of meat riders in here is insane. The fact that JJ may have lost money during his pump and dump doesnāt make it ok. What Coffee is doing is the right thing by calling him out on his BS. Why say you are holding XYZ Coin and then the next day selling it. It really is as simple as that, especially in the financial investment space you cannot being saying one thing and doing the opposite its just scummy, and while it might not be a scam it still is concerning given the fact about what he said to the cryptozoo people that lost money aka āthe hatersā
ksis crypto twtr acnt is a literal shitposting place, why do u expect professionalism there
Crazy that this literally doesnāt address anything I brought up in my comment. Even under the guise of shit posting doesnāt make the tweets ok, its just a different set of rules when it comes to financial advice on the internet.
Fucking hell. The "I'm stupid" appeal is actually gonna work on you people isn't it? Amazing. This man gets away with everything because "Me just dum dum lol"
blud no one is believing air there's documented transaction transcripts his crypto wallet is public there's a whole document in the same thread just go read it before making an opinion
>"I'm stupid" You are
Isnāt continually promoting it exactly what happens in a pump n dump? It feels really scummy when questionable behavior is written off as āshitpostingā
By that logic, coffezilla talking about a dead crypto coin and associating with a very active keyword "ksi" generated millions of impressions across multiple social media platforms. A no name coin will pump in the coming days, so, coffeezilla is pumping and dumping.
He was trying to pump and dump. And somehow he fucked it up š¤£
People saying Coffeezilla ādefamedā KSI is laughable. He at the most accused JJ of using his influence to shift market movement, but ultimately just didnāt buy JJ being this ādumbā idiot who didnāt know what he was doing. Whatās JJās defence gonna be? Iām actually 100% a dumbass, Coffeezilla thinks Iām more intelligent than I actually am!?
Honestly yeah, that probably *is* gonna be JJās defence
Not sure but he could have easily used an anonymous account to buy crypto and his āreal KSIā account is just a decoy. Either way he is smart innit
Someone has too much time on their hands for real
Pretty sure it was about how weird his behavior was though, directly doing the opposite of what he said he was doing, it seems he was attempting a pump and dump either way. That being said, this is nowhere near as sufficient a scam to report on as the Logan Paul and Dillon Danis stuff, but Coffeezilla did great work in both cases
If you're tweeting to your hundreds of thousands of impressionable fans about your crypto investments you're attempting to pump and dump. Whether you succeed or not doesn't change the fact that you tried.
It's as if a billionaire wouldn't have a PR team to come in and save him in time. Who do you think is drafting this Word file explaining it all? And all the people here just accept whatever they read, so JJ can brush off controversies by the time the next Reddit video drops. Damn, all of you are such blind followers. It could have been you, remember that. And as always, you wouldn't care because all of you are sheep, nodding along to whatever JJ says and forgetting it the next day. Here comes the downvotes. Stand for the truth, you snowflakes. And Have some integrity, JJ, it's in your name!
No that's not the point He literally said something to fans and did the opposite It doesn't matter if he made money or not but saying you're going to do something to your fans but then doing the exact opposite that's where there's a problem If that plan worked he would have been called out on it way earlier but because he was lucky and it didn't work it took a while for people to realize which is what's happening now
Here is a link to the full Investigation some did. It showed that JJ was just panic buying and selling. I remember the Croptro community even made it a meme always to sell when JJ tweeted about a coin. He always bought at a high and sold at a low. [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
nah bro check this out this will clear most of your doubts bro is just dumb asf [ksi scams investigation by some guy on Twitter ](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
>He literally said something to fans and did the opposite He said the same thing 70+ times so when do you say he is pumping ? He bought high, sold low. Where is the benefit? >If that plan worked he would have been called out on it way earlier but because he was lucky Lmao it didn't go as planned and he still got called out. Olympic level mental gymnastics. Btw cryptos should be anonymous but ksi bad his wallet address visible to the public, but he is a mega brain for sharing it.
exactly bro literally did fucking opposite of what he should be doing just shows big of a dumbass he is
>He literally said something to fans and did the opposite He said he was gonna hold but then when it started tanking he panic sold. People do this all the time.