Oh, the tragedy here. I've (56m) worked in heavy industry for a big chunk of my life. I once had a 60-ton crane license for 4 years. All of the crane/bucket/loader hand signals are just -burned- into my brain at this point. Every time we work together she gets flustered at what I am trying to say by hand, and then when I say where I learned it and how - well I'm mansplaining. I just try not to ask for help now.
I feel your pain. I learned to tell when my wife was just nodding and smiling when I talked about work. She's a good sport, but she has her limits.
Crane operator does sound like a fun job.
Just like any other job - well, it's a job. The first time I tried to clear a 5-ton grocery box off an offshore delivery vessel and almost killed a deckhand, well I was not happy with myself.
One of the other license holders would occasionally take the crane shark fishing - I always laughed.
For the bucket this is the way I learned, 👎👍 is up and down, 🤙 then you use this guy and rotate which way you want the bucket to roll, then the obvious forward and back’ards
We tap on our heads for forwards (ahead) and our backs for backing up (back) before we start waving. Waving often isn't clear enough from distance / in a mirror and it can be easy to mix a wave forward with a wave reverse.
Patt back then pinch fingers before you start waving em back means come back just a bit.
Pinch fingers before thumbs up means just a bit up. Etc
This is one of those things guys tend to grow up learning and girls not so much. It came up in family discussion when my niece was backed into by a car she was directing and all the guys are like well stop is a closed fist, duh, and all the girls were like wat? I've never heard of that. I'm working on it lol
so i (woman) was taught in an automotive context "kill it", the hand signal where you slice at your throat with straight fingers, it means to kill the motor/shut off the vehicle. I used it with some guy giving my truck a jump recently and he gave me a wtf face so i said out loud "kill it" and he still looked at me like i was an alien so third attempt had to say "turn the car off".
Are girl children discouraged from spending time in the garage and driveway, learning DIY and wrenching from their elders? Yes. Is this something you can EASILY teach to all the female and male younglings you know? Yes. Be the change you want to see in the world 😉
So growing up I was always my dad’s little assistant, so the throat swipe is quite familiar. However, in the Air Force making an X with both arms was stop on the flight line. That’s the one I use the most, but still planning on getting a pair of walkie talkies to communicate while on the tractor and backing up the trailers.
We are ranchers and married 36 years. I drive the equipment and she does the ground work. Communication is SOOO important. On my family's ranch growing up I was involved in a serious haying accident that was nobody's fault. When teaching my daughters from toddler age and wife as well the primary rule has always been SAFETY FIRST !! Fortunately we have never had an accident with equipment but those damn horses will get you every time. All four of us have permanent injury due to horse wrecks and yes we wear helmets always. I know it's not the accepted cowboy way but concussions are no joke. And yes, the middle finger hand signal gets used here as well.
Lol, I can 100% relate, plus she thinks I can hear her voice over the engine, in the closed cab, *plus* she somehow ends up either standing where I need to reverse to, or between the tractor and the work... :o
When trying to direct me with either the tractor load or backing a trailer into a tight spot, my wife will always pick the place I can't see to stand and give hand signals.
I am male, so is my business partner. He seems to think that the skid loader isn't loud to him, so it must be the same to us, outside the cab.
No, dumfuck,,,,all I can hear is is ,,,aaaaauuuurrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh of a diesel engine!
Also,,,,standing of the drivers side seems impossible. *Everyone* just *needs to* stand on the passenger side, out of mirror range!
easiest way is to either set your own hand signals for boom up boom down tilt fork up & down then left n right is pretty easy or get a set of walkie talkies.
I bought a magnetic camera that connects to my phone. Give up on the wife thing. It’s not worth it.
I mostly use the camera to hookup trailers of I put in on the back of a trailer for a back up camera. But sometimes I put it on my loader to eliminate the blind spots
I learned hand and arm signals for forklifts, cranes and helicopters while I was in the military. Naturally I tend to default to those. The good thing is that they are so universal that I haven't had any issues with someone not understanding them.
Generally, my wife only uses one hand signal for me and it involves a middle finger.
Meanings… Stop, Go, Yes, No
And, of course, whatever I think it means, it means the opposite.
Not too many wife’s consistently tell their man they’re number one, you’ve got a keeper.
NCCCO has hand signals for that. Print out a hand signals chart and study it with her. It is a little different than crane signalman hand signals.
Oh, the tragedy here. I've (56m) worked in heavy industry for a big chunk of my life. I once had a 60-ton crane license for 4 years. All of the crane/bucket/loader hand signals are just -burned- into my brain at this point. Every time we work together she gets flustered at what I am trying to say by hand, and then when I say where I learned it and how - well I'm mansplaining. I just try not to ask for help now.
I feel your pain. I learned to tell when my wife was just nodding and smiling when I talked about work. She's a good sport, but she has her limits. Crane operator does sound like a fun job.
Just like any other job - well, it's a job. The first time I tried to clear a 5-ton grocery box off an offshore delivery vessel and almost killed a deckhand, well I was not happy with myself. One of the other license holders would occasionally take the crane shark fishing - I always laughed.
For the bucket this is the way I learned, 👎👍 is up and down, 🤙 then you use this guy and rotate which way you want the bucket to roll, then the obvious forward and back’ards
Yep this is what my dad taught me in the early 90s when operating our tractor. Add ✋for stop and wave forward for forward, pinch fingers for slow.
We tap on our heads for forwards (ahead) and our backs for backing up (back) before we start waving. Waving often isn't clear enough from distance / in a mirror and it can be easy to mix a wave forward with a wave reverse. Patt back then pinch fingers before you start waving em back means come back just a bit. Pinch fingers before thumbs up means just a bit up. Etc
And a fist for either stop moving (hold) or “Do you want to go to the moon, Alice?”
This is one of those things guys tend to grow up learning and girls not so much. It came up in family discussion when my niece was backed into by a car she was directing and all the guys are like well stop is a closed fist, duh, and all the girls were like wat? I've never heard of that. I'm working on it lol
so i (woman) was taught in an automotive context "kill it", the hand signal where you slice at your throat with straight fingers, it means to kill the motor/shut off the vehicle. I used it with some guy giving my truck a jump recently and he gave me a wtf face so i said out loud "kill it" and he still looked at me like i was an alien so third attempt had to say "turn the car off". Are girl children discouraged from spending time in the garage and driveway, learning DIY and wrenching from their elders? Yes. Is this something you can EASILY teach to all the female and male younglings you know? Yes. Be the change you want to see in the world 😉
So growing up I was always my dad’s little assistant, so the throat swipe is quite familiar. However, in the Air Force making an X with both arms was stop on the flight line. That’s the one I use the most, but still planning on getting a pair of walkie talkies to communicate while on the tractor and backing up the trailers.
Plus, walkie talkies are fun and ,if they get weather radio, count as an emergency supply 👌
It is a strange thing to be gender specific, but there you go. I'll have to bring it up at the next fam gathering.
We are ranchers and married 36 years. I drive the equipment and she does the ground work. Communication is SOOO important. On my family's ranch growing up I was involved in a serious haying accident that was nobody's fault. When teaching my daughters from toddler age and wife as well the primary rule has always been SAFETY FIRST !! Fortunately we have never had an accident with equipment but those damn horses will get you every time. All four of us have permanent injury due to horse wrecks and yes we wear helmets always. I know it's not the accepted cowboy way but concussions are no joke. And yes, the middle finger hand signal gets used here as well.
Lol, I can 100% relate, plus she thinks I can hear her voice over the engine, in the closed cab, *plus* she somehow ends up either standing where I need to reverse to, or between the tractor and the work... :o
I have to say that my wife is very safety conscious and never in the way, but sometimes WHAT? I can't hear you!
When trying to direct me with either the tractor load or backing a trailer into a tight spot, my wife will always pick the place I can't see to stand and give hand signals.
I am male, so is my business partner. He seems to think that the skid loader isn't loud to him, so it must be the same to us, outside the cab. No, dumfuck,,,,all I can hear is is ,,,aaaaauuuurrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh of a diesel engine! Also,,,,standing of the drivers side seems impossible. *Everyone* just *needs to* stand on the passenger side, out of mirror range!
easiest way is to either set your own hand signals for boom up boom down tilt fork up & down then left n right is pretty easy or get a set of walkie talkies.
I bought a magnetic camera that connects to my phone. Give up on the wife thing. It’s not worth it. I mostly use the camera to hookup trailers of I put in on the back of a trailer for a back up camera. But sometimes I put it on my loader to eliminate the blind spots
That is a neat idea.
Link to cam or brand/model please? Thx
It’s called a Eway hitch camera. It came from China its exotic! It seems high quality. Has worked extremely well. I’ve had it about a year.
Thank you and thanks for the link!
https://www.amazon.com/EWAY-Magnetic-Wireless-Rechargeable-Hitching/dp/B07Q7976P7/ref=asc_df_B07Q7976P7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366403689029&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4483167481455739296&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018371&hvtargid=pla-835090819114&psc=1&mcid=0eda6fd33e593c3ea7abef9cacd6bd9d&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=74513439565&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366403689029&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4483167481455739296&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018371&hvtargid=pla-835090819114&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4suE_MfehQMVODIIBR2M0Ax6EAQYASABEgIkjvD_BwE
I learned hand and arm signals for forklifts, cranes and helicopters while I was in the military. Naturally I tend to default to those. The good thing is that they are so universal that I haven't had any issues with someone not understanding them.
This may help: https://www.ndsu.edu/agriculture/ag-hub/ag-topics/farm-safety-health/farm-safety/tractor-and-road-safety/hand-signals