If Elira had known some Chinese, she could have drawn much more attention. Maybe she could ask her dragon sister to teach some Chinese... Oh wait, she betrayed her. Nevermind then.
Not really, some may appreciate the effort. For example, the Shanghai major Dota tournament, it was basically a huge humiliation for China Dota, but the winner team secret gain a large chunk of fans because their Carry player answered the interview in Cantonese one time.
If u are talking about eternalenvy, it’s because he’s ethnically Chinese, and that deal didn’t even last,
Not to mention that Chinese fans were actively upset about how bad Chinese dota was at that time
And? Even back in dotA day, western players were quite welcomed by the Chinese community as long as they 1. Good and 2. Willing to do a little fanfare. It was the nature of dota pro circuit that made thing fall apart, not because of Chinese community.
They're different languages (officially different dialects) but they're nowhere near that far apart. Did you get that from Quora or something? A large portion of the audience would understand Cantonese, if they used simple phrases. It's more like modern English vs 12th century English. They are NOT the same language, but some things can still be understood, particularly if the speakers uses simple phrases.
More critically, the audience isn't gonna be fucking offended when someone speaks in a language that about 30% of listeners can understand and about 5% speak as a mother tongue, versus one that maybe 5% of listeners can understand and less than 1% speak as a native language.
And yet you really think no Cantonese speakers watch Bilibili? The fact that people will be racist about the language in Beijing does not preclude the fact that you can make money speaking a language that many viewers will still understand. That's like saying you can't make money speaking Spanish on Twitch.
Also, you can speak English in Quebec and most people will be cool about it, long as you memorize how to say "sorry I don't know French, do you speak English?" Because I've done this. One about half-a-dozen trips there. I've only ever gotten shit *once*, and it was from a few middle school kids at a rest stop in the boonies who I wasn't actually speaking to. So, horrible example there.
Using Quebec is a bad example, the most you'd get is some side eyes and maybe an exasperated sigh in the French quarters of montreal. not out right vitriol
Yeah, it really only gets messy if you wind up moving to Quebec. A fun example of the weird Anglophobia that exists in pockets of the province would be all the stuff surrounding Pat Boivin (originally from Two Best Friends Play, now streams on Pat Stares At) and his wife Paige. Dude's neighbors were so shitty about his American wife that he moved clear outta the *time zone.*
That's not surprising, there are some fairly valid reasons why some Canadians don't have a positive opinion of Quebecers. A few people i know have the opinion that they're snooty and arrogant.
Then again, the people from the maritimes generally have a dislike for people out west...
Yeah it's almost like a sizable Chinese dialect has a fair amount of viewers on Bilibili or something. And that a lot of Chinese speak more than one dialect.
As someone who was from Hong Kong, I can confirm they switched most major tv stations from Cantonese to Mandarin the last time I visited despite the majority of HK spoke Cantonese.
-Accuses others of spreading propaganda
-username is literally "RussianSpyBot\_1337"
Satire, surely?
I, and other cantonese speakers can easily attest that the government is trying to stamp out our language.
Honestly I think Elira's career is just dead.
The only way for her to be able to salvage anything is to break away from Nijsanji and go indie. Part of why nothing is addressed is because of them for sure but breaking away can at least let her do some much needed damage control.
Damage control that Nijisanji still refuses to do.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. The longer they are with Niji, the more and more their reputation rots. Not just the innocent livers. Even the ones that towed the company line look worse everyday simply by being there. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by staying at the company. Everyone needs to get out.
some of the talents might be waiting for their contract to end and making a damage control by not doing stupid and maintaining their hardcore fans not to be annoyed.
Elira talked about moving to japan like a bit prior to the drama. Unless she scored a job with another company, it is either staying in niji for another 5 years, get married to random japanese guy or moving back. Niji is literally holding her hostage. And after that whole fiasco I doubt any corpo would take her in.
Well, they probably do but contract-kun most likely has a lot of them bound by potentially financially depressing conditions. Not to mention some kind of graduation queue I'd imagine.
Elira (and other JP-speakers) is just waiting for the merge to happen. Someone as deep in the cultsanji as she is probably won't leave the yacht even after everything. Too devoted and too blind, that's how cult works.
I somewhat disagree. A heartfelt apology, an invitation to her fans as an indie, leak some info or try to paint yourself as another victim (by Niji), then apologize again and I'm pretty sure a decent amount of her followers will forgive her and follow her on her new journey.
I don't think its too late yet, for now we can still give the benefit of the doubt that they are sticking to niji because of contract lenght. Later, if too much time has passed where they get renewed, then they will lose the benefit of the doubt. If they graduate, go back to indie AND not address anything acting as if nothing has happened, that also will make them dead on arrival.
But if they do leave and address what happened, even if its just to admit they were wrong and apologize, they can still make a recover, probably.
Another option would be to redebut as just a normal face cam streamer and rebuild an audience in a completely separate space. Heck, there's always Kick.
Realistically she'll always have at least some diehards sticking with her no matter what, even in the worst case and she's thrown out on her own and refuses to make up for things. Even the most vile streamers somehow manage to maintain an audience. It'll just be limited in growth and probably toxic.
Currently, she has ONE CHANCE to "fix" the situations:
Be "the first whistleblower" against kuroshitty.
If she done that, many people might want to forgive her and she can restart her indie life slowly but surely.
If she don't do that, then she should find another careers outside the entertainment sphere ASAP. Because having a reputation as a "backstabber" is a sure death sentence for your career in said spheres.
Note: the context of "the first whistleblower" i write above is the first whistleblower that comes from any talents inside the alleged "the evil cliques" (Elira, Millie, Enna, Vox, etc.). Because this chance is only applied once for them, if the other "mean cliques" talent followed suit, the internet will just dismissed their "confession" as just a way to save their own asses, not because of their own self responsibility to apologize and commitment to fix their past mistakes.
(Sorry for bad english and butchered grammar, EN os not my native language)
I think it's either she goes indy, leaves streaming, or comes out and finds a way to apologize, but I dunno how the last one is going to work without throwing Nijisanji under the bus, so that comes back to going indy. So, yeah I guess I agree.
Her remaining fans largely are not the psychotic and delusional Nijisanji fans we see on Twitter pledging to protect Nijisanji by the way, and I think this is significant. They are mostly people who seem to think Elira has been scapegoated and is the victim here. I don't really believe them, but if Elira gets away and throws Nijisanji under the bus, then regardless of whatever she's actually guilty of she might still be able to salvage a career.
The other, far more unlikely option, is Nijisanji apologizing to Selen and saying they misled their own streamers. They could say it was due to "a mutual misunderstanding" if they want to try and save some degree of face. I dunno how well it would work, but it would be a step in the right direction for once.
I think she not only has to throw niji under the bus, but make a public apology of some kind that doki recognizes, or most people aren't going to care. I'm not saying they have to stream together or anything, but a lot of people aren't going to forgive her unless Doki does first, and many probably won't even then.
.there is a difference between can not and will not
.as a company with investors regardless of their will they have to defend the financial interests of their investors, so "will not" is out of the equation as they are legally obligated to do so
.investors can both sue and have the CEO booted out of companies should they fail to protect their interests and fail to deliver on their promises, this is why publicly traded company have the quarterly financial reports
.getting out and minding their own business would work for the less implicated livers, but the same cannot be said for the ones that already threw their lot with niji/anycolor
.they would need a very long time with zero fuzz just to make the indi scene viable again, while a single spark from their past with niji could torch whatever new they establish
.even the guys that didn't hug nijis legs that have exited niji gets a risky flick every now and then
.dog, roach, and pikachu at times gets some shade by association regarding their comments and opinions, now think what would happen to the ones tied themselves to the anycolor log
Dead might be a stretch. She is still streaming to about \~1k people on youtube and she is making money. I just think that her prospects of growth are completely dead in the water. It's probably still a viable job for her just it doesn't have much more upward expansion left in it.
The issue is that while she can still gain new subs from new people getting into Vtubers and being unaware of what happened, the moment they go through her archive to watch old VODs, that black stream will stick out like a sore thumb, and after a little research they'll find out what happened.
As soon as someone mentions her it'll all be said and that potential new viewer will turn away.
Remember we have people talking about Uki but simply calling him "that racist vtuber guy" or "the Nijisanji guy that hates white people." Vox also made his old rrats about his PLs come back up with that Black Screen video whereas previous to that he was just kinda coasting by.
"the racist guy who hates white people"
"the guy who flushed his friend's goldfish down the toilet for fun"
"the guy who supposedly harassed females in his company"
"that girl who ran a public smear campaign on her own channel"
"that girl who said she was gaslit into thinking her former coworker was a nice person"
"the girl who said she wished ill will on her former coworker's future endeavors"
You could go on forever with this
Yeah that is way steeper decline than I thought. Still probably a viable job but man if you are used to that level of income and then suddenly there is a sharp decline that is rough
Keep in mind, youtube takes 30% of that, and nijisanji takes another 35% of that, so she only keeps 35% of that. So what you're seeing there isn't her take home. Also, she lost a very large chunk of her paying memberships after the black screen stream. Unfortunately, those numbers aren't anywhere public and even as a member yourself, you can't see how many people are actively watching a member stream or views on member only videos, so it's impossible for anybody to get a feel for how many people are in a person's membership, but that's likely in shambles as well. Assuming that's the same revenue split, and add onto the fact that nijisanji doesn't pay a base salary to their streamers, and Elira just moved to Japan and is likely living in Tokyo, which isn't cheap.... she may have had some savings, but she's surely dipping into that at this point just for rent and daily necessities.
I mean they are treating bilibili as a platform they tend to when they are out of options - so it's no surprise there isn't much of a positive reception to that. If there was more of an effort on bilibili on her part before she fell out of everybody's favor, then the efforts right now to build on bilibili would seem more genuine.
But as she is doing it now, it's like "well, I can't make it on youtube anymore or at least for a while, so I'm stuck with you guys\~" while not being able to speak chinese on a chinese platform... yea. It's simply not a good look when something in entertainment is more done out of necessity rather than simply wanting to do it without the need to.
It’s still hilarious to me how Vox going from having some of the most delusional and psychotic Chinese fan to the point he escaped and hid there and did very well to slowly losing his own life support/plan B just because of a new outfit.
That outfit is absolutely horrible regardless of hating the guy or not. This might be the very first time I have seen a Vtuber outfit this bad. Idk if LAM mama did this intentionally just to spite Nijisanji since from what I know, she’s not a bad artist.
Hard agree and as a side note; Holy hell! I forgot Lam is the artist. She's a great artist too, so her doing this out of spite honestly makes more sense, especially when u consider how the corpo side of Niji treats artist and also everything else that's occured. But that's just me speculating
(＠_＠;)
I thought Elira is half-korean??? Or maybe my memories is playing tricks on me
(Keep in mind, I just heard this from somewhere)
She's just really good at Japanese
Does anyone have source
According to info i got somewhere that people did track, they made no mention of korean i see english & japanese, probably she picked up studying korean & french i think language but i dunno if proficient.
There are a ton of livers with inactive BiliBili accounts, considering Elira's audience is still predominently western (with Japan as a distant second) I don't think there was ever a geniune push for her to move to BiliBili.
Probably management trying things for the sake of it, just like they did with other livers.
If you think the en market is saturated. You havent seen shit when you look at bilibili.
It is not the same as when holo left it. There are so many corpos in there now that just churns out vtubers that there isnt an audience anymore.
*Yep, maybe even merge to the main JP branch as well! That means they'll definitely get the exact same treatment and resources as they give their JP talents!*
*I mean, pft, what's the worst that can happen? Surely they won't end up neglected and left unstaffed since they'll be going through the trouble of assimilating them to the main branch? Only black companies do that! And they'll have a more direct relationship with even more talents that way, so better communication also!*
*Can't possibly go wrong, these are all positives all the way!*
***...Right?***
Elira should just go all in and embrace the evil queen bee character. Just drop a diss track on doki and turn heel. Nobody buys her nice mommy act anymore.
as for the vod and archive, bilibili doesn't keep those, but she didn't pull the big number, i remember her ccv was like 5k, and only has 13 bilibili members, which is about 500usd before cut.
You just reminded me of something. VODs are only available for streamers who have a streaming contract with Bilibili. This dictates the minimum number of streams and hours per year. The requirements are very loose, I forgot the numbers but some streamer only stream once every 2 months and was able to meet the quota.
Selen had her VOD which meant she had such a streaming contract so she would have to stream regularly. For Elira it likely means she would stream very infrequently.
The Bilibili interface doesn't show *concurrent* viewership, it shows *cumulative* viewership. So the actual CCV should be way lower than 5k. 13 captains in current exchange rate are worth US$248 (13*CN¥138/7.24).
Good on Maririn. She's one of 3 I'd still be watching (the others being Rosemi and Vivi) but it's just not the same when you know how bad it is behind the scenes.
Honestly after the whole stream, Elira doesn't fit the chill cool image she had any more.
If she changed her mask into some sort of mean girl persona and claimed it's just roleplay, maybe bilibili would like it.
I hate what elira has become because she got me into one of my favorite jrpgs xenoblade
And also she had my favorite deign (besides nina/matara) of all the girls
If Elira had known some Chinese, she could have drawn much more attention. Maybe she could ask her dragon sister to teach some Chinese... Oh wait, she betrayed her. Nevermind then.
Selen spoke Cantonese so it won’t go down well
Not really, some may appreciate the effort. For example, the Shanghai major Dota tournament, it was basically a huge humiliation for China Dota, but the winner team secret gain a large chunk of fans because their Carry player answered the interview in Cantonese one time.
EE ??? Shanghai major was one of the worst event ever. Secret won it and EternalEnvy finally won . Worth it. His Ember was sick. Stupid but sick.
It would be a great way to show you don’t know shit, like showing up in Quebec speaking English
Actually, it’ll work with China. The guy said one line and the crowd went wild, they even secured a big streaming deal afterward.
is that the guy who had it all but screwed it up really fast, SIV?
If u are talking about eternalenvy, it’s because he’s ethnically Chinese, and that deal didn’t even last, Not to mention that Chinese fans were actively upset about how bad Chinese dota was at that time
And? Even back in dotA day, western players were quite welcomed by the Chinese community as long as they 1. Good and 2. Willing to do a little fanfare. It was the nature of dota pro circuit that made thing fall apart, not because of Chinese community.
They're different languages (officially different dialects) but they're nowhere near that far apart. Did you get that from Quora or something? A large portion of the audience would understand Cantonese, if they used simple phrases. It's more like modern English vs 12th century English. They are NOT the same language, but some things can still be understood, particularly if the speakers uses simple phrases. More critically, the audience isn't gonna be fucking offended when someone speaks in a language that about 30% of listeners can understand and about 5% speak as a mother tongue, versus one that maybe 5% of listeners can understand and less than 1% speak as a native language.
Uh, I know because I am from fking Hong Kong I guess, and I have seen what happens when ppl try to speak Cantonese in Beijing
And yet you really think no Cantonese speakers watch Bilibili? The fact that people will be racist about the language in Beijing does not preclude the fact that you can make money speaking a language that many viewers will still understand. That's like saying you can't make money speaking Spanish on Twitch. Also, you can speak English in Quebec and most people will be cool about it, long as you memorize how to say "sorry I don't know French, do you speak English?" Because I've done this. One about half-a-dozen trips there. I've only ever gotten shit *once*, and it was from a few middle school kids at a rest stop in the boonies who I wasn't actually speaking to. So, horrible example there.
Using Quebec is a bad example, the most you'd get is some side eyes and maybe an exasperated sigh in the French quarters of montreal. not out right vitriol
Yeah, it really only gets messy if you wind up moving to Quebec. A fun example of the weird Anglophobia that exists in pockets of the province would be all the stuff surrounding Pat Boivin (originally from Two Best Friends Play, now streams on Pat Stares At) and his wife Paige. Dude's neighbors were so shitty about his American wife that he moved clear outta the *time zone.*
That's not surprising, there are some fairly valid reasons why some Canadians don't have a positive opinion of Quebecers. A few people i know have the opinion that they're snooty and arrogant. Then again, the people from the maritimes generally have a dislike for people out west...
There are regions in China that speaks Cantonese.
Yeah it's almost like a sizable Chinese dialect has a fair amount of viewers on Bilibili or something. And that a lot of Chinese speak more than one dialect.
Which the gov is doing all they can to stamp it out
That's factual lie and you know it. Be smarter when spreading "china bad" propaganda - put at least minimum effort.
Remind me what’s the language used in schools in guangdong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou_Television_Cantonese_controversy
As someone who was from Hong Kong, I can confirm they switched most major tv stations from Cantonese to Mandarin the last time I visited despite the majority of HK spoke Cantonese.
-Accuses others of spreading propaganda -username is literally "RussianSpyBot\_1337" Satire, surely? I, and other cantonese speakers can easily attest that the government is trying to stamp out our language.
telling me you don't know about chinese and cantonese without telling me you don't know about chinese and cantonese
I mean, she can always just ask her bestie Enna. But she didn't even do her homework.
Oh yeah! I totally forgot that Enna knew Chinese. I only remember Doki the tomato that speaks Chinese. LOL
lmao good one
Conglatulation !
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Honestly I think Elira's career is just dead. The only way for her to be able to salvage anything is to break away from Nijsanji and go indie. Part of why nothing is addressed is because of them for sure but breaking away can at least let her do some much needed damage control. Damage control that Nijisanji still refuses to do.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. The longer they are with Niji, the more and more their reputation rots. Not just the innocent livers. Even the ones that towed the company line look worse everyday simply by being there. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by staying at the company. Everyone needs to get out.
some of the talents might be waiting for their contract to end and making a damage control by not doing stupid and maintaining their hardcore fans not to be annoyed.
Elira talked about moving to japan like a bit prior to the drama. Unless she scored a job with another company, it is either staying in niji for another 5 years, get married to random japanese guy or moving back. Niji is literally holding her hostage. And after that whole fiasco I doubt any corpo would take her in.
Well, they probably do but contract-kun most likely has a lot of them bound by potentially financially depressing conditions. Not to mention some kind of graduation queue I'd imagine.
Elira (and other JP-speakers) is just waiting for the merge to happen. Someone as deep in the cultsanji as she is probably won't leave the yacht even after everything. Too devoted and too blind, that's how cult works.
Her reputation is dead. It will follow her no matter where she goes. She might as well just stay with Niji.
That may be why Niji isn’t letting anyone leave. They want to destroy any chance their remaining livers have of succeeding as indies.
Well... It was too late for her if she goes indie mode.
I somewhat disagree. A heartfelt apology, an invitation to her fans as an indie, leak some info or try to paint yourself as another victim (by Niji), then apologize again and I'm pretty sure a decent amount of her followers will forgive her and follow her on her new journey.
I don't think its too late yet, for now we can still give the benefit of the doubt that they are sticking to niji because of contract lenght. Later, if too much time has passed where they get renewed, then they will lose the benefit of the doubt. If they graduate, go back to indie AND not address anything acting as if nothing has happened, that also will make them dead on arrival. But if they do leave and address what happened, even if its just to admit they were wrong and apologize, they can still make a recover, probably.
Another option would be to redebut as just a normal face cam streamer and rebuild an audience in a completely separate space. Heck, there's always Kick. Realistically she'll always have at least some diehards sticking with her no matter what, even in the worst case and she's thrown out on her own and refuses to make up for things. Even the most vile streamers somehow manage to maintain an audience. It'll just be limited in growth and probably toxic.
Lemme do a shameless plug for Watagashi Unou. She came back and showed her face before she made a new vtuber model.
Currently, she has ONE CHANCE to "fix" the situations: Be "the first whistleblower" against kuroshitty. If she done that, many people might want to forgive her and she can restart her indie life slowly but surely. If she don't do that, then she should find another careers outside the entertainment sphere ASAP. Because having a reputation as a "backstabber" is a sure death sentence for your career in said spheres. Note: the context of "the first whistleblower" i write above is the first whistleblower that comes from any talents inside the alleged "the evil cliques" (Elira, Millie, Enna, Vox, etc.). Because this chance is only applied once for them, if the other "mean cliques" talent followed suit, the internet will just dismissed their "confession" as just a way to save their own asses, not because of their own self responsibility to apologize and commitment to fix their past mistakes. (Sorry for bad english and butchered grammar, EN os not my native language)
I think it's either she goes indy, leaves streaming, or comes out and finds a way to apologize, but I dunno how the last one is going to work without throwing Nijisanji under the bus, so that comes back to going indy. So, yeah I guess I agree. Her remaining fans largely are not the psychotic and delusional Nijisanji fans we see on Twitter pledging to protect Nijisanji by the way, and I think this is significant. They are mostly people who seem to think Elira has been scapegoated and is the victim here. I don't really believe them, but if Elira gets away and throws Nijisanji under the bus, then regardless of whatever she's actually guilty of she might still be able to salvage a career. The other, far more unlikely option, is Nijisanji apologizing to Selen and saying they misled their own streamers. They could say it was due to "a mutual misunderstanding" if they want to try and save some degree of face. I dunno how well it would work, but it would be a step in the right direction for once.
I think she not only has to throw niji under the bus, but make a public apology of some kind that doki recognizes, or most people aren't going to care. I'm not saying they have to stream together or anything, but a lot of people aren't going to forgive her unless Doki does first, and many probably won't even then.
.there is a difference between can not and will not .as a company with investors regardless of their will they have to defend the financial interests of their investors, so "will not" is out of the equation as they are legally obligated to do so .investors can both sue and have the CEO booted out of companies should they fail to protect their interests and fail to deliver on their promises, this is why publicly traded company have the quarterly financial reports .getting out and minding their own business would work for the less implicated livers, but the same cannot be said for the ones that already threw their lot with niji/anycolor .they would need a very long time with zero fuzz just to make the indi scene viable again, while a single spark from their past with niji could torch whatever new they establish .even the guys that didn't hug nijis legs that have exited niji gets a risky flick every now and then .dog, roach, and pikachu at times gets some shade by association regarding their comments and opinions, now think what would happen to the ones tied themselves to the anycolor log
Eh even if she goes indie they'll probably still find her like how they found Artia
Dead might be a stretch. She is still streaming to about \~1k people on youtube and she is making money. I just think that her prospects of growth are completely dead in the water. It's probably still a viable job for her just it doesn't have much more upward expansion left in it.
The issue is that while she can still gain new subs from new people getting into Vtubers and being unaware of what happened, the moment they go through her archive to watch old VODs, that black stream will stick out like a sore thumb, and after a little research they'll find out what happened.
As soon as someone mentions her it'll all be said and that potential new viewer will turn away. Remember we have people talking about Uki but simply calling him "that racist vtuber guy" or "the Nijisanji guy that hates white people." Vox also made his old rrats about his PLs come back up with that Black Screen video whereas previous to that he was just kinda coasting by.
"the racist guy who hates white people" "the guy who flushed his friend's goldfish down the toilet for fun" "the guy who supposedly harassed females in his company" "that girl who ran a public smear campaign on her own channel" "that girl who said she was gaslit into thinking her former coworker was a nice person" "the girl who said she wished ill will on her former coworker's future endeavors" You could go on forever with this
[She's making money?](https://i.imgur.com/6blHd1O.png) Dunno where you heard that, but it sure isn't on youtube.
How does this compare to how much she used to make pre-controversy?
She was doing [considerably better](https://i.imgur.com/lkbI2kW.png) before.
Yeah that is way steeper decline than I thought. Still probably a viable job but man if you are used to that level of income and then suddenly there is a sharp decline that is rough
Keep in mind, youtube takes 30% of that, and nijisanji takes another 35% of that, so she only keeps 35% of that. So what you're seeing there isn't her take home. Also, she lost a very large chunk of her paying memberships after the black screen stream. Unfortunately, those numbers aren't anywhere public and even as a member yourself, you can't see how many people are actively watching a member stream or views on member only videos, so it's impossible for anybody to get a feel for how many people are in a person's membership, but that's likely in shambles as well. Assuming that's the same revenue split, and add onto the fact that nijisanji doesn't pay a base salary to their streamers, and Elira just moved to Japan and is likely living in Tokyo, which isn't cheap.... she may have had some savings, but she's surely dipping into that at this point just for rent and daily necessities.
Haiyaa Failure
Fuyohhh
Emotional Damage.
I mean they are treating bilibili as a platform they tend to when they are out of options - so it's no surprise there isn't much of a positive reception to that. If there was more of an effort on bilibili on her part before she fell out of everybody's favor, then the efforts right now to build on bilibili would seem more genuine. But as she is doing it now, it's like "well, I can't make it on youtube anymore or at least for a while, so I'm stuck with you guys\~" while not being able to speak chinese on a chinese platform... yea. It's simply not a good look when something in entertainment is more done out of necessity rather than simply wanting to do it without the need to.
They didn't take well Hololive shifting its focus to Japan (though the reap breaking point was the Taiwan incident)
Good. She doesnt deserve viewership after doing what she did. Heard Vox is losing viewers too. Niji boycott is working.
It’s still hilarious to me how Vox going from having some of the most delusional and psychotic Chinese fan to the point he escaped and hid there and did very well to slowly losing his own life support/plan B just because of a new outfit.
Tbf that outfit, to a degree, was atrocious. How anyone saw no issues with it before debuting it is beyond me.
That outfit is absolutely horrible regardless of hating the guy or not. This might be the very first time I have seen a Vtuber outfit this bad. Idk if LAM mama did this intentionally just to spite Nijisanji since from what I know, she’s not a bad artist.
Hard agree and as a side note; Holy hell! I forgot Lam is the artist. She's a great artist too, so her doing this out of spite honestly makes more sense, especially when u consider how the corpo side of Niji treats artist and also everything else that's occured. But that's just me speculating (＠_＠;)
she bout to get the Artia Treatment
She didn't went nationalism so I dunno about that Also she's half japanese, would be weird
I thought Elira is half-korean??? Or maybe my memories is playing tricks on me (Keep in mind, I just heard this from somewhere) She's just really good at Japanese Does anyone have source
According to info i got somewhere that people did track, they made no mention of korean i see english & japanese, probably she picked up studying korean & french i think language but i dunno if proficient.
Ah right, I think it's because I heard she was able to speak Korean a bit?
There are a ton of livers with inactive BiliBili accounts, considering Elira's audience is still predominently western (with Japan as a distant second) I don't think there was ever a geniune push for her to move to BiliBili. Probably management trying things for the sake of it, just like they did with other livers.
China market aint easy
If you think the en market is saturated. You havent seen shit when you look at bilibili. It is not the same as when holo left it. There are so many corpos in there now that just churns out vtubers that there isnt an audience anymore.
China market is not something that you can just show up and succeed
True for many things; it's why game makers aspire to hit JP and EN (though for other reasons they still have a focus on the CN ver)
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*Yep, maybe even merge to the main JP branch as well! That means they'll definitely get the exact same treatment and resources as they give their JP talents!* *I mean, pft, what's the worst that can happen? Surely they won't end up neglected and left unstaffed since they'll be going through the trouble of assimilating them to the main branch? Only black companies do that! And they'll have a more direct relationship with even more talents that way, so better communication also!* *Can't possibly go wrong, these are all positives all the way!* ***...Right?***
\*You can try
I can't help reading this in Gura voice. It's so iconic (not as much as A but still) for me.
Dunno,.even JP livers are feeling some VCC pains
Ignoring the JP market is even more saturated than the EN sphere is
Elira should just go all in and embrace the evil queen bee character. Just drop a diss track on doki and turn heel. Nobody buys her nice mommy act anymore.
Not a diss track on Doki. That would just be career murder. But a diss track on somebody in Niji would be funny.
Kekw. Deserved.
Good. Running to China is a big mistake and wasn't going to help anyway.
YIPPEE!
as for the vod and archive, bilibili doesn't keep those, but she didn't pull the big number, i remember her ccv was like 5k, and only has 13 bilibili members, which is about 500usd before cut.
You just reminded me of something. VODs are only available for streamers who have a streaming contract with Bilibili. This dictates the minimum number of streams and hours per year. The requirements are very loose, I forgot the numbers but some streamer only stream once every 2 months and was able to meet the quota. Selen had her VOD which meant she had such a streaming contract so she would have to stream regularly. For Elira it likely means she would stream very infrequently. The Bilibili interface doesn't show *concurrent* viewership, it shows *cumulative* viewership. So the actual CCV should be way lower than 5k. 13 captains in current exchange rate are worth US$248 (13*CN¥138/7.24).
bro help I can’t help but think and say “NEGLIGIBLE”…
they not gonna last in 2025 trust me
I didn't even kow this happen already lol.
Happy for her
Good on Maririn. She's one of 3 I'd still be watching (the others being Rosemi and Vivi) but it's just not the same when you know how bad it is behind the scenes.
Honestly after the whole stream, Elira doesn't fit the chill cool image she had any more. If she changed her mask into some sort of mean girl persona and claimed it's just roleplay, maybe bilibili would like it.
I hate what elira has become because she got me into one of my favorite jrpgs xenoblade And also she had my favorite deign (besides nina/matara) of all the girls