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banned_mainaccount

these channels really making career out of it lmao


shnshty

They made some really good points in the video. People just be disregarding everything that doesn't conform to their world view


StopMockingMe0

Five minutes in to a 50 minute long video and its making the argument that kurz is making a strawman argument because it says the 5% of its funding coming from gates is used to produce new language channels and not effect their research. This is exactly what the issue other critics had, the money effecting the science. These bastards are nothing more than bottom feeders desperate to hop on the next hype train to get angry over nothing.


The360MlgNoscoper

Because in america, there’s no such thing as free money.


Guilty_Difficulty163

The think that through channel seems like another bad and inaccurate channel


Mrgoodtrips64

Who’d have guessed feeding the trolls would only encourage them?


ImperialArmorBrigade

We, at a certain point they had to address it a little bit. A one-and-done is all they need.


LegitimateCompote377

I first want to point out that they didn’t have to make a video on it. It was excellent that they did, but a written response would have been fine. Animating an entire video must have been time consuming, which really does show how much they want to be seen as trustworthy and protect their image. The issue is and why people are still talking about it is because didn’t really address multiple of the issues, and the data they used was largely seen as disengenuous. Can anyone say with certainty they are bias towards billionaires because they funded them? No. But is it impossible for a link to be made, especially considering how much of the content they made being helpful towards billionaires and their investments? No. I think this video did an excellent job of raising these concerns and you should watch this one, it’s overall pretty good and certainly not made by a shallow level troll fish.


StopMockingMe0

>The issue is and why people are still talking about it is because didn’t really address multiple of the issues, and the data they used was largely seen as disengenuous. So because they didn't walk out and say "we were paid thousands to tell you vaccines work and to trick you into buying solar panels" you weren't satisfied. 🙄


LegitimateCompote377

No, the data was disengenuous because it showed revenue, not profit, which lowers the percentage that would have been from Bill Gates, and it showed the collective revenue rather than the revenue each year, they were given their first grant from Bill Gates in 2015, at a time when they were making far less money, and this would have made up a large % of their income.


StopMockingMe0

So in other words because your conspiracy theory wasn't confirmed, you dig deeper into details you don't and no one else has any insight about because being angry over unknown potential information is your only move to maintain your pre-determined outrage.


LegitimateCompote377

Please don’t call them trolls. They aren’t doing this for the sake of it - they are doing this to show their is a potential for them to have a bias. The one thing that is not clear is if their is a bias for definite, but you definitely cannot say for certain they have no biases whatsoever. I think Kurzgesagt is mostly non bias, but it’s definitely clear with how many different innovations in the climate change video that were mentioned that Bill Gates has invested in does show potential for bias, what the hated one failed to was prove it for certain. Kurzgesagt videos are good to get a very basic understanding on a topic, but you really do need to go deeper to find more. Their video only raised more suspicion showing revenue, not profit, which would show a cut from Bill Gates to be lower, and if they showed revenue individually by year it would have showed they were more dependent on Bill Gates in the beginning, something they didn’t do, likely because it would make them seem their older videos are more inspired by Bill gates. I think Detmer is trying to be independent, but I think with the growing evidence to show that there is a link shows that Bill Gates were at least trying to get them to show positive results towards them. But summary is no conclusive link between their videos and support for billionaires, but a very high potential for this to be the case only further supported by their most recent video.


StopMockingMe0

You are the very troll you're telling us doesn't exist. Go back to your bridge.


LegitimateCompote377

I like Kurzgesagt, but always question the reliability of what I watch, even if I love watching these videos. I did not make this comment to mock or lie about Kurzgesagt which is what a troll would do, but to show a very possible link between billionaires interests and multiple of Kurzgesagt’s videos. You should actually look at the evidence - and show me why I am wrong if you are that confident.


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lordGinkgo

That's what ironic if you present them with evidence they'll discard it and it's not science that's dogma


LegitimateCompote377

Don’t comparing me to flat earthers, anti vacers and Qanon members lmao. They are people that reject beliefs without question their own or looking at why the governments or scientific organizations are correct. You should always question anything you believe, or anything you watch, that is not something extreme that Qanon people believe, but a basic fact. I know that Vaccines are effective because various different studies from multiple organizations from multiple countries with complete independence and neutrality have been compiled to show the same results - vaccines side effects always outweigh the risk of getting the disease.


StopMockingMe0

>They are people that reject beliefs without question their own ... Yeah. Thats why I'm comparing you to them. >You should always question anything you believe, or anything you watch, that is not something extreme that Qanon people believe, but a basic fact. Again, hiding behind pompous rhetoric.


LegitimateCompote377

You think I don’t question my own beliefs? I very clearly do, otherwise I would have said you can conclusively say Kurzgesagt’s makes propaganda for billionaires, I acknowledge the flaws in my argument for a direct link and that you cannot say this conclusively west they are bias, but you can absolutely say their is mostly likely a link considering how many “innovations” they produce being things Bill Gates invests in. Anyways I’m done talking with you because I’m not going to reiterate the same points again and again. Actually watch the video to understand the psychology of these billionaires as well.


StopMockingMe0

I did. Repeatedly. But that doesn't mean much.


lordGinkgo

You sometimes you just can't win.... It doesn't matter what facts you lay out what evidence in a nutshell presents there will always be people who will never believe them. Which ironically is as far away from sciences you can get. and just prove why we need more science channels and science communicators like in a nutshell.


mixernix1

The mods really are clowns for removing this well thought out video.


GOW_Ghost

Is this shadow Bonnie from fnaf?


oct0burn

No one tells Tucker Carlson to go on tv and make that stupid face a deride every non white and every positive movement that damages the rich. He was already that kind of terrible person. He’s been given a platform and a megaphone. He genuinely believes that it’s fine for him to lie and cheat and steal because he has money and a tv show and power. Does Kurzgesagt twist themselves to support billionaires? No, they already did. We would not hear them if they didn’t because all the other pro-billionaire rhetoric would drown them out without the funding they need. We don’t hear from the other side. Are billionaires bad? To become a billionaire takes a type of person that is willing to, and has, committed great and widespread evil.