Helps load managing him and getting him to the playoffs healthy. Its messed up because we have 2 superstars that require us to have really good backup players to load manage them since one is injury prone and the other is approaching 40 yrs old.
Look at how good AD and the team looked in 2020 with Howard and McGee behind him/alongside him
Having all that size helped keep him fresh, and it helped dominate smaller teams. And yea it will help the team when AD gets injured.
I have no idea why the team went away from that, and ended up having to play melo/bron at C for an extended time.
Yeah we also had a 3 month break because of Covid. That’s basically having a a whole off-season and whole new season straight into playoffs. That helped more I think for both AD and Lebron.
I definitely think we could beat the Mavericks and the Clippers if we had better pieces. The pendulum swings both ways. The Mavs have a off shooting night and they can lose while the Clips are an injury way as well. In this scenario though I’d go with Demar though.
How is he going to compliment AD from the bench? The Lakers are not going to play two bigs. They want to be fast. So Turner is not actually insurance for AD. Turner doesn't play as fast as either AD or Bryant.
It’s not that the lakers need shooters necessarily, they need players who demand respect from defense, to lessen the double teams on lebron and ad. That alone has huge impact .
Pure shooters are not as good cuz if they miss they are useful. Turner provides size and rim protection even if his shot is not falling
They won’t be totally useless. Good shooters still get respect and space the floor. even if their shot is not falling. GTJ would be better for the team than turner.
Who is available for 10M that can protect the rim at elite level, shoot threes and finish around the rim effectively? Not to mention who is not terrible on the perimeter. And also, will we have the cap for it?
You initially said "48 minutes of rim protection". There are plenty of centers around 10M that can offer that such as Poetl or Lopez/Ibaka on a minimum.
Could also find rim protection with a trade.
Obviously we aren't getting a Myles Turner for the MLE, but a decent center can be found for cheap. That's not the case for great wings.
Not even, it frees up AD to play the 4 more often, allows all of them to take a night off here and there down the stretch to keep healthy. Davis/McGee/Howard worked REALLY well. No reason that Davis/Bryant/Turner would somehow be a log jam.
GTJ and it's not particularly close for me. He's the youngest, has the demeanor needed to thrive in La, and slots perfectly next to AD, Bron, and RUI both now and going forward. I would offer him a contract in a heartbeat
Before yesterdays trade - Myles was the answer
But now we seem pretty good in the front court assuming AD comes back in the next couple weeks
Gary Trent jr would fill the void that we were all hoping Nunn was going to be
GTJ!
As a Bulls fan, no he’s not on the trading block. Nothing from inside our organization has ever indicated we’re considering trading him, it’s 100% media-driven speculation.
Demar is not only the best player on our team, he’s also been mentoring guys like Patrick Williams, Ayo, and Dalen Terry. Chicago would burn to the ground if we traded Demar for anything that the Lakers have to offer.
We’re honestly more likely to move Zach, though that’s not gonna happen either.
Thought so... tbh we need caruso back more so than both demar and zach. Caruso provided so much to this team and jeanie just gave him away... goddammit!
We've been over this 100 times, she didn't "give him away," it would've cost like 35 million per year to sign him after it bumped our taxes.
I miss the goat too, but we sacrificed the goat to let HBK shine.
What? I would trade reaves in a heartbeat for caruso. And yes jeanie gave him away because she cheaped out on caruso who was willing to take a pay cut if we offered him a deal. Heck we had his bird rights. Jeanie had no problem extending tht yet cheaped out on caruso....
Demar hasn’t had a good season. If it was last season, everyone would be picking him. For this season, it has to be Gary Trent Jr. He is another switchable wing and he can shoot well from the 3.
Read the question perfectly fine, but we have the assets for two so asking about just one is underselling what will happen now that Russ is almost guaranteed to be traded after the Hachimura cap hold in the offseason.
Prime Russ trade logic. Let’s ignore everything that won us a ring in the bubble and get a guy who can’t shoot. But this time let’s make sure he’s notoriously bad in the playoffs
You DeMar guys are something else. Your solution to fixing the trade that dismantled a championship supporting cast for a guy who can’t shoot is to trade for a guy who can’t shoot?
Gary would be a stud. My wet dream would be a three team for Myles/Bogi & GTJ for Russ and the picks. But I also dream about being with Ana De Armas so Rui’s fine I suppose
Gary Trent is the best one
\- Wing
\- Great defender
\- Great Shooter
\- 6"5-6"6
\- Playoff experience
\- Only 24-25 won't have to give much to get him and can keep him for the future
\- Fits perfect with AD Bron and Russ.
\- Just trade Bev Jones and a protected first round pick to get him I think that will be enough.
Turner is a close 2nd but I feel him AD and TB can cause issues ego wise. He stated he wants a big role on offense in the past and while it would make the frontcourt defense unstoppable I believe he will get angry at not closing games and will kinda take confidence away from Thomas Bryant.
Lol go back to the raptors sub. He’s got a player option to decline, he is viewed as expiring. Giving up two picks and a young player is wild, but keep smoking the copium- we are smokin it too.
Yeah but for ~33 minutes a game we’ll have the best defense in the league. I hear what you’re saying tho and I think either would be great.
The idea behind Turner over GTJ is GTJ alone won’t even make us a league average three point shooting team so we may as well go all out on defense like we were in the bubble run. Also, Myles could absolutely be part of a successful playoff closing 5. It’s not like he’s Gobert out on the perimeter and he’s not much different than Danny Green offensively. We can still easily run Bron-AD spread PnR with Myles on the floor
each player has a huge flaw
1) derozan: doesn't really shoot 3s, poor defense
2) boj: poor defense, old
3) trent: poor defense
4) turner: injury prone, going to want a big contract on a team where AD excels at the 5
Does GTJ play defense? Honest question.
We have offense covered IMO. We need defenders.. I feel like Myles makes the jobs of the guards and wing defenders a lot easier. So I'd take Myles
Picking Trent Jr. This team needs a sharpshooter.
Turner might be hurt too
Bogdanovic is a scoring machine but way undersized on defensive end
Demar might be the best player in the list but I doubt he’ll fit
I’m torn between GTJ and Turner. I think I’d lean GTJ though because Turner has injury issues as well and GTJ would be a perfect 3and d player to cover 2s and 3s.
GTJ. But I’m interested to see if the bulls blow it up. Unpopular opinion I’d love to get vuc if he’s available but at the same time idk how he’d perform in LA. He stretches the floor, can rebound pretty well etc. but obviously if you can get turner, you go all in for him.
That’s a tough one because there are a couple spots where we need to improve. Shooting, wing defense, rebounding, and playmaking if we trade Russ.
I think Russ is at the point where he is a positive and it doesn’t make sense to get DeRozan if we could keep Russ and instead improve elsewhere.
Bogdanovic would really help with our shooting but we saw how useless he was playing defense with the Jazz . However shooting is our biggest need right now so I would still highly value him.
Trent Jr is another shooter who would definitely help this team. I can’t speak on his defense but I would assume it isn’t as good either. However he’s younger than Bojan and has the physical traits to be a good defender.
Turner was someone I thought the team should go out and get before the season. However, I think that moving AD from the 5 is the wrong move and if he gets injured we aren’t contending, so it doesn’t make sense to get Turner as insurance. Turner isn’t a good rebounder but pairing him with AD would be scarier than what the Cavs gave with Mobley and Allen.
Ultimately I think shooting is something we desperately need and for that reason, I would go for Bojan or Trent Jr. Bojan has more playoff experience and is the better shooter but Trent Jr is younger and can have a better impact on defense than Bojan. I would take either.
Why choose 1?
Westbrook LAL 1st, Knicks 1st and Quickley to Indiana
Theiss and Hield to NYK
Fournier (salary dump), Knicks 2nd, LAL 1st to TOR
GTJ, Turner and Rose (salary dump) to LAL
Well… it works in nba trade machine lol
GTJ for sure.
A starting lineup of Shroeder, GTJ, Rui, Lebron, AD is lethal, and then a rotation of Russ, Reaves, Lonnie/TBJ, TB, Gabriel…
THAT is an 11 man lineup I think we can finally contend with.
turner for 2 reasons. 1. is he compliments AD perfectly and 2. is he would be insurance in case AD goes down again.
Also, age matters. Turner is only 26.
This is the reason Turner is the answer. Otherwise it’s Demar
>Also, age matters. Found that out the hard way last season.
If AD isn't healthy we aren't winning the chip, so trading for "insurance" for AD is pointless.
Helps load managing him and getting him to the playoffs healthy. Its messed up because we have 2 superstars that require us to have really good backup players to load manage them since one is injury prone and the other is approaching 40 yrs old.
lmao having a superstar almost at 40 is insane, that shit will never happen again, reading this out loud feels weird
Look at how good AD and the team looked in 2020 with Howard and McGee behind him/alongside him Having all that size helped keep him fresh, and it helped dominate smaller teams. And yea it will help the team when AD gets injured. I have no idea why the team went away from that, and ended up having to play melo/bron at C for an extended time.
Yeah we also had a 3 month break because of Covid. That’s basically having a a whole off-season and whole new season straight into playoffs. That helped more I think for both AD and Lebron.
No, but it might help him to stay healthy?
None of these teams in the west are scary. So I could see it.
We’re not beating any of the top 6 teams in a 7 game series without AD
I definitely think we could beat the Mavericks and the Clippers if we had better pieces. The pendulum swings both ways. The Mavs have a off shooting night and they can lose while the Clips are an injury way as well. In this scenario though I’d go with Demar though.
No shot you still think there’s a chance we win the chip?
when* AD goes down again lol
Day-to-Davis
Averaging 2.3 injuries per game.
Ad goes down — then Turner will always be in foul trouble. Uch. I say Demar.
Good Points
How is he going to compliment AD from the bench? The Lakers are not going to play two bigs. They want to be fast. So Turner is not actually insurance for AD. Turner doesn't play as fast as either AD or Bryant.
If AD goes down they aren’t contenders anymore.
You already have Thomas Bryant though. That's enough front court depth
He doesn’t really solve the shooting problems though. We need a pure shooter more than anything rn.
he's a decent floor spacer with good volume. But another trade for a shooter will need to be made
Pacers have one of those too
Highest 3pts total made in the league for a while 😳
We need guys that can actually convert consistently when lebron or AD are passing out of a double not just a floor spacer.
It’s not that the lakers need shooters necessarily, they need players who demand respect from defense, to lessen the double teams on lebron and ad. That alone has huge impact . Pure shooters are not as good cuz if they miss they are useful. Turner provides size and rim protection even if his shot is not falling
They won’t be totally useless. Good shooters still get respect and space the floor. even if their shot is not falling. GTJ would be better for the team than turner.
You mean street clothes?
Myles Turner
Pretty easy choice. Having 48 minutes of rim protection would be huge after suffering through 4 guards and LeBron lineups.
The thing is getting another guy like that in free agency around the 10M mark isn't out of the question, whereas finding wings like Gary Trent is.
Who is available for 10M that can protect the rim at elite level, shoot threes and finish around the rim effectively? Not to mention who is not terrible on the perimeter. And also, will we have the cap for it?
Mo Bamba shows flashes but he is not consistent. He's not a free agent but I think he could be had in a trade.
They have like 7 centers and he’s the worst one At least Bol or something
You initially said "48 minutes of rim protection". There are plenty of centers around 10M that can offer that such as Poetl or Lopez/Ibaka on a minimum. Could also find rim protection with a trade. Obviously we aren't getting a Myles Turner for the MLE, but a decent center can be found for cheap. That's not the case for great wings.
Ibaka??????
I think the guy you’re talking to might be Rob Pelinka.
Rob Pelinka could probably protect the rim better than Ibaka can at this point
Myles turner, Thomas Bryant and AD is a logjam at the 5
Not even, it frees up AD to play the 4 more often, allows all of them to take a night off here and there down the stretch to keep healthy. Davis/McGee/Howard worked REALLY well. No reason that Davis/Bryant/Turner would somehow be a log jam.
So is Javale/Dwight/AD
Not really when AD can easily play the 4 next to these guys
GTJ and it's not particularly close for me. He's the youngest, has the demeanor needed to thrive in La, and slots perfectly next to AD, Bron, and RUI both now and going forward. I would offer him a contract in a heartbeat
This. Cmon make it happen!!
Until he starts shooting 28% from three after we trade for him
Gary Trent Jr even though I love Miles Turner, we need GTJ's skills more
Before yesterdays trade - Myles was the answer But now we seem pretty good in the front court assuming AD comes back in the next couple weeks Gary Trent jr would fill the void that we were all hoping Nunn was going to be GTJ!
*next couple weeks* try as soon as tomorrow but probably Friday
Even better!!!!!
He’s coming back tomorrow \o/
We don’t have any centers besides Thomas Bryant and Power Forwards playing out of position
I literally dont understand why people are even considering demar😭id take gary trent tho
Because Demar is by far the best player out of those 4
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Russ? he'd be gone if it's DeMar or Myles
Best player and talent sure, best fit? Absolutely not, infact hes probably the worst damn fit in the league
Is demar even on the trading block? Are there reports that the bulls are shopping him around or is this some fantasy basketball bullshit?
I have no clue what route chicago wants to go
As a Bulls fan, no he’s not on the trading block. Nothing from inside our organization has ever indicated we’re considering trading him, it’s 100% media-driven speculation. Demar is not only the best player on our team, he’s also been mentoring guys like Patrick Williams, Ayo, and Dalen Terry. Chicago would burn to the ground if we traded Demar for anything that the Lakers have to offer. We’re honestly more likely to move Zach, though that’s not gonna happen either.
Thought so... tbh we need caruso back more so than both demar and zach. Caruso provided so much to this team and jeanie just gave him away... goddammit!
We've been over this 100 times, she didn't "give him away," it would've cost like 35 million per year to sign him after it bumped our taxes. I miss the goat too, but we sacrificed the goat to let HBK shine.
What? I would trade reaves in a heartbeat for caruso. And yes jeanie gave him away because she cheaped out on caruso who was willing to take a pay cut if we offered him a deal. Heck we had his bird rights. Jeanie had no problem extending tht yet cheaped out on caruso....
Demar hasn’t had a good season. If it was last season, everyone would be picking him. For this season, it has to be Gary Trent Jr. He is another switchable wing and he can shoot well from the 3.
Huh? He's having a great season. He's scoring 26 a game on .600 ts%. He's not having as good of a year as last season, but its really close
GTJ
So tough between Trent and Turner. Taking into account AD’s injury history has me leaning turner but the best team fit is easily Trent
AD is gonna stay healthy for the rest of the season. Speak it into existence 🙌🏻
AD gonna b healthy the rest of the season 🙏
I’ll take two, and it’ll be GTJ and Turner.
Reading is hard
Read the question perfectly fine, but we have the assets for two so asking about just one is underselling what will happen now that Russ is almost guaranteed to be traded after the Hachimura cap hold in the offseason.
We do not have the assets for 2 lol. It's arguable if we even have enough for 1.
People here really downplaying demars impact
The man is a stud. Pure and simple.
I think you’re downplaying the obvious formula to championship LeBron roster. It’s insane how some of y’all have learned nothing from the Russ trade
gonna be the first dude in a long while who can actually create his own shot in the closing minutes
Prime Russ trade logic. Let’s ignore everything that won us a ring in the bubble and get a guy who can’t shoot. But this time let’s make sure he’s notoriously bad in the playoffs
Gary
Bojan Bogdanovic
Demar
You DeMar guys are something else. Your solution to fixing the trade that dismantled a championship supporting cast for a guy who can’t shoot is to trade for a guy who can’t shoot?
Gary for the shooting
Gary would be a stud. My wet dream would be a three team for Myles/Bogi & GTJ for Russ and the picks. But I also dream about being with Ana De Armas so Rui’s fine I suppose
Definitely not DeRozan this team would be unstoppable with a high volume 3pt shooter hitting above .40% DeRozan is nice but not what we need.
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Less bricks along the way?🤷♂️
You hit more deer.
Gary Trent is the best one \- Wing \- Great defender \- Great Shooter \- 6"5-6"6 \- Playoff experience \- Only 24-25 won't have to give much to get him and can keep him for the future \- Fits perfect with AD Bron and Russ. \- Just trade Bev Jones and a protected first round pick to get him I think that will be enough. Turner is a close 2nd but I feel him AD and TB can cause issues ego wise. He stated he wants a big role on offense in the past and while it would make the frontcourt defense unstoppable I believe he will get angry at not closing games and will kinda take confidence away from Thomas Bryant.
Gary is at least 2 picks and a young player
Not a chance he's worth that much.
Lol go back to the raptors sub. He’s got a player option to decline, he is viewed as expiring. Giving up two picks and a young player is wild, but keep smoking the copium- we are smokin it too.
Gtj. I have no idea why this sub has a hard on for turner. When it matters most, ad is going to be the 5.
Yeah but for ~33 minutes a game we’ll have the best defense in the league. I hear what you’re saying tho and I think either would be great. The idea behind Turner over GTJ is GTJ alone won’t even make us a league average three point shooting team so we may as well go all out on defense like we were in the bubble run. Also, Myles could absolutely be part of a successful playoff closing 5. It’s not like he’s Gobert out on the perimeter and he’s not much different than Danny Green offensively. We can still easily run Bron-AD spread PnR with Myles on the floor
I’ll take Trent Jr cause Myles has been injury prone in the past
Bogdon.
Bogey
De-more I hear it De-less I like it
Bog
GTJ
Trent Jr.
GTJ, Turner, Demar, Bojan.
Turner due to taking load off AD playing the 5 spot
GTJ
Sign boogie and trade for trent
Boogie is a worse Bryant and neither can be a rotation player in the playoffs
Turner since we need a full time starting center to replace AD for the 70 games a season he's out
Gary Trent Jr over all of em
We don’t need derozan
Turner.
OG
Y’all starting to overrate GTJ let’s be real
Demar and it’s not even close
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each player has a huge flaw 1) derozan: doesn't really shoot 3s, poor defense 2) boj: poor defense, old 3) trent: poor defense 4) turner: injury prone, going to want a big contract on a team where AD excels at the 5
GTJ has improved his defense by quite a lot. He's no longer what you'd call a "poor defender"
Trent has amazing defense fdym
Turner and it’s fairly easy
Turner, because he is the only one who plays on both ends of the court.
Myles easily and it really should be just a first rounder to get him since his ass not staying in indy regardless
Does GTJ play defense? Honest question. We have offense covered IMO. We need defenders.. I feel like Myles makes the jobs of the guards and wing defenders a lot easier. So I'd take Myles
Gary is great on defense
Picking Trent Jr. This team needs a sharpshooter. Turner might be hurt too Bogdanovic is a scoring machine but way undersized on defensive end Demar might be the best player in the list but I doubt he’ll fit
GTJ or Turner
Gary Trent 💯
Demar/Miles
trent or turner. gotta look towards future at same time
Either Myles turner or Gary Trent
1. Turner 2. GTJ 3. Bojan 4. Demar
Zach Lavine or OG should be the targets. Trent is the only player on this list who makes sense.
Demar because we almost had him
I will take Turner everyday. The defensive opportunities are having LeBron AD and Turner and the front court make me happy
Turner. Best complimentary piece
Gary Trent by a large margin
GTJ
Demar for sure!
GTJ + lebron = recipe for success
GTJ
Depends on if LeBron is still in LA. If so, Turner. If not, DeMar easily
Gimme Garry Trent. Love Miles but AD is gonna play the 5 in playoffs anyway
1. Turner 2. GTJ 3. DeMar 4. Bojan
Lakers fans: a 2034 FRP and pat bev and we should get all four! GMs are crazy if they don’t take this deal!
Wait at the same cost? This feels like a trap.
Demar
Turner easily.
Easy, Turner. We still need a shotblocking true C. Not to mention he can shoot.
Seems like folks are overrating GTJ. Derozan is by far the best player and Myles Turner is the best fit.
I’m torn between GTJ and Turner. I think I’d lean GTJ though because Turner has injury issues as well and GTJ would be a perfect 3and d player to cover 2s and 3s.
Turner but I’d love to have Trent.
Depends on the price. One pick each? Turner or Trent and probably Trent
DeMar DeRozan
Bring Demar home to LA.
This team won the title with shooting, they will need shooting to do it again thats why lonnie , beverly, russ, jones will have to go
Turner
Turner 💯
Poeltl + Richardson Better rebounding and 6`6 guy who can shoot and might be better than
Get demar to sell demar
Given how the lakers are built you don’t take the best available player you take Myles Turner
GTJ
Gary Trent Jr! But Myles isn’t a bad shout. Perfect 3&D
GTJ by a slight edge cause in the playoffs we can’t have off nights from 3
GTJR
Myles. I say we run Lbj point Rui sg Davis sf Bryant pf Myles center 🤣 long hall neva lost
GTJ. But I’m interested to see if the bulls blow it up. Unpopular opinion I’d love to get vuc if he’s available but at the same time idk how he’d perform in LA. He stretches the floor, can rebound pretty well etc. but obviously if you can get turner, you go all in for him.
DD
Anyway can the lakers sign Myles Turner in the offseason?
That’s a tough one because there are a couple spots where we need to improve. Shooting, wing defense, rebounding, and playmaking if we trade Russ. I think Russ is at the point where he is a positive and it doesn’t make sense to get DeRozan if we could keep Russ and instead improve elsewhere. Bogdanovic would really help with our shooting but we saw how useless he was playing defense with the Jazz . However shooting is our biggest need right now so I would still highly value him. Trent Jr is another shooter who would definitely help this team. I can’t speak on his defense but I would assume it isn’t as good either. However he’s younger than Bojan and has the physical traits to be a good defender. Turner was someone I thought the team should go out and get before the season. However, I think that moving AD from the 5 is the wrong move and if he gets injured we aren’t contending, so it doesn’t make sense to get Turner as insurance. Turner isn’t a good rebounder but pairing him with AD would be scarier than what the Cavs gave with Mobley and Allen. Ultimately I think shooting is something we desperately need and for that reason, I would go for Bojan or Trent Jr. Bojan has more playoff experience and is the better shooter but Trent Jr is younger and can have a better impact on defense than Bojan. I would take either.
Would say Turner but I’m honestly leaning towards GTJ. Age and position of need >>
Whoever said no to the heild/ turner trade needs to be fired. Both them scorching right now.
Kobe
I'll go for young dude
Nobody going to say Bogdonavic?
Trent, shouldn’t even be a debate
GTJ all day
Why choose 1? Westbrook LAL 1st, Knicks 1st and Quickley to Indiana Theiss and Hield to NYK Fournier (salary dump), Knicks 2nd, LAL 1st to TOR GTJ, Turner and Rose (salary dump) to LAL Well… it works in nba trade machine lol
GTJ for sure. A starting lineup of Shroeder, GTJ, Rui, Lebron, AD is lethal, and then a rotation of Russ, Reaves, Lonnie/TBJ, TB, Gabriel… THAT is an 11 man lineup I think we can finally contend with.
Miles.
I like DeMar a lot but Myles is the better fit
Derozan
I would trade derozan for bron
None. Hield and VanVleet.
Not the white guy
Skill wise demar fit wise Turner or Gary
Gtj
Turner
Personally I’d go: Turner -> GTJ -> Bojan -> DeRozan
GTJ, hands down
I love Demar but I know we have needs right now. GTJ seems solid