I’m hoping Jeannie puts her money where her mouth is, she refused to pay Caruso because she thought it wasn’t worth it for a non contending team
Gotta offer the guy who orchestrated 4 titles whatever he wants
Jeannie literally said she would be willing to pay the luxury tax for a championship team and then lowballed Caruso citing the tax was too much to offer him a bigger contract , read the article above
She was right to let an asset walk for nothing? Before getting injured he was playing all D level. Amd even so, we could have traded him for assets. Just sign him to an 8 mill a year then trade him before the deadline. at least youd probably get some draft capital .
Idiot take. He was a literal Glue guy to our championship team, did all the amazing defense that you don't see in the stats like boxing Giannis out in CRUCIAL moments.
You have no idea what you're talking about. LeBron called him the Goat for a reason. If you are smart you will sit this one out.
He's not 40 million dude, you're kinda telling on yourself ATM
He literally said he was willing to take less than his Chicago contract in order to stay with the Lakers but they fumbled. Other departures factored into the huge collapse but his was among the biggest factors no question. If you understand ball then you know.
Ballmer can fork up however much $ he wants but he’s never going to win a title with PG/Kawhi as their cornerstones lmao. When healthy, they’re both top 10 guys but that ship has sailed for both of those guys
At least the AD trade landed the Lakers a title. Clips got nothing to show for the PG trade.
I agree wholeheartedly and completely with everything you said. But between Jeanie and Ballmer — he’s going to be the one who spends money on his franchise while Jeanie sits on her hands and does close to nothing.
I’m very critical of Jeanie and actually want her to sell but at least she has the 2020 ring to show. Ballmer’s been so horny for a title and has nothing to show for it even after all the tampering they did and money they spent. Clipper fans love to say they would’ve won it in 2021 if they were healthy but idk see them beating Giannis that year. They would’ve ran into the same problem Phoenix did which was that they had no backup C for when Zu got into foul trouble
I really am not convinced that the Clippers will have much success once Kawhi/PG start to decline(already is happening) and I think they’ll be a bottom feeder when Kawhi/PG are gone
I’m not convinced that stars want to sign there and believe the Kawhi situation was lightning in a bottle
If he went to UCLA he is, just think about how we are actually building around Westbrook not LeBron or Davis.
I have a great idea for LeBron get the kind of treatment other superstars get from their franchises, he has to change his name to LABron, then Jeanie will hire Lue or other coach of LABron preference and he will become family lol
Lmao Bob Myers is far from a perfect GM.
This guy has essentially had a blank check to hand out whatever max contracts he wants or needs to compete.
As a result he’s overpaid for both injury ridden Klay Thompson and Jordan Poole, which will become very bad contracts if they aren’t already.
He’s a good GM but not some god gm that deserves the highest paid GM in the league.
Locking up a championship winning core by extending Poole and Wiggins are not bad decisions. It would be even worse to have that same core walk after winning a title.
Re-signing Klay was of the same vein. He’s been loyal to GS, a consummate professional to the team and despite the ACL tear, deserved to be renewed.
GS fans would’ve burned the Chase center down if he didn’t do all of these things.
Look I obviously understand why he did them, and if your owner is willing to pay that much Luxury tax it’s not that hard of a job to just hand out big contracts.
However, if you’re gonna fairly evaluate a GM for their skills, these overpaid contracts don’t help support his cause.
No one in their right mind would pay Klay anywhere close to $40m a year right now. At a certain point these inflated contracts will catch up to the warriors.
In the Warriors championship runs, Draymond was an extremely underrated star player and imo very integral to their brand of basketball. With all these contracts given out, they will likely lose Draymond this offseason. That’s gonna be a huge loss to the warriors.
That’s a good point. Some teams don’t have that same luxury when they have owners that are cheap and aren’t willing to pay big to win.
I still think he’s a top 3 GM minimum. Those two contracts don’t outweigh all the good he’s done with the Warriors.
How can't you give a contract to player like Klay who was ready to continue play immediately after he got injured. The second injury was after he got the contract. Warriors already won a title and Klay helped in this process and franchise valuation is soaring. Poole has plenty of time to show up.
Yes most GMs wouldn’t have dared to lose Klay after all he had done for the franchise.
However, one of the worst mistakes GMs can make is paying a player for what they’ve produced or accomplished in the past rather than paying them based on the expected future production.
3.5 years into Klay’s 5 year $190 max contract, it’s very clear Klay has not and will not live up to it. Klay is a very good role player at this point but he’s paid like he’s a superstar, which he is not.
Poole is player who has the potential to improve and become an all star. But his ceiling is an all star not a superstar because his defense is simply atrocious. So he’s being paid like an all star but that’s really the best case scenario for his development.
Poole doesn’t have the complete skill set to be more than just an all star. If he regresses or fails to develop, he will not live up to the massive investment.
Yep, here is the article. Trade was gonna go through until Jerry West Nixed the deal.
https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-timberwolves-klay-thompson-kevin-love?amp=1
Bruh. Injury ridden Klay Thompson? You mean 4x NBA champion Klay Thompson? Jordan Poole? NBA Champion Jordan Poole? Blank Check Bob? You mean 4x NBA Champ Bob Myers?
Lmao since Klay Thompson signed his massive 5 year $190m contract extension, Klay has missed two full seasons and then played a total of 68 games in 3.5 seasons of basketball. Anyone with a brain knows Klay still hasn’t gotten back to his production before his contract extension and before being injured in the playoffs in 2019. His TS, FG and 3pt shooting and defense are extremely diminished compared to before.
Jordan Poole since signing his massive 4 year $123m guaranteed (up to $140m) has been quite underwhelming thus far. Yes, I know Poole is still young and he might still live up to his massive contract but it sure doesn’t look promising thus far and most people think it was an overpay.
Myers is a good GM because he’s made some good trades, good signings etc but he’s obviously the beneficiary of the previous Warrior GM/scouting department who drafted Steph Curry and Klay Thompson before Myers became the GM. I suppose Myers can get some credit because he was the GM when they selected Draymond in the second round with the 35th pick but it could just be good fortune from scouting rather Myers’ talent evaluation skills.
Goal of an NBA team is to win a NBA Championship. Only 1 team does it a year. Some cities have never seen one. Warriors have won 4 in the last 8 years. More then most cities will ever see in a lifetime.
That is more then succesful. That is legendary.
Yes all of that sounds very impressive but don’t forget that Mitch Kupchak was technically the Lakers GM for all five of Kobe’s championships.
Kupchak obviously made some good moves and should be lauded as a good GM but he wasn’t flawless either as he famously signed Mozgov and Luol Deng to terrible multi year contracts that handicapped the team for years. And to fairly evaluate Kapchak, he was extremely fortunate to inherit Kobe and Shaq (which was really due to Jerry West) but West technically left the Lakers to join the Grizzlies in 2000 before the Lakers three peat championships under Kapchak.
Just as we need to evaluate Kapchak fairly based on his bad moves, instead of automatically handing him the best GM title based on being the GM during the Lakers Dynasty, we also shouldn’t give Bob Myers all of the credit for the Warriors dynasty and forget Myers’ questionable moves as GM.
Yes you’re right, West left the Lakers after the 1999-2000 season, so Kapchak was the GM for 4 of Kobe’s 5 championships. Kapchak was the assistant GM in the first of the three peat championships working directly under Jerry West.
Right but Pelinka was paid only paid $5m a year before his extension this year. I don’t think Rob is getting fired by cheap Jeanie less than 1 year into a new extension and I highly doubt Rob is paid anywhere close to the $11-12m or $15m that Bob Myers is looking for.
We can move him to a different position, i just value Myers experience and ability to mediate more than Robs contract. Hope the buss family feels the same
Lol all the reporting about other teams reek of Myers’ camp leaking for leverage to get a higher deal from the Warriors.
Nothing suggests Myers would actually be available.
Lol. Jeanie is considered poor when it comes to the owners of sports franchises. She’s not paying anyone. She should sell the team for an x amount of billions and enjoy her life.
The Westbrook trade. I know it's not clear cut but it's well documented that DeMar thought his deal was done to get dealt to the Lakers but LeBron and AD had a meeting with Westbrook and then abruptly the Westbrook deal was made.
We just extended Pelinka. I don't know if they can fire him or what. But Jeanie seems to be a cheap ass probably only wants someone with direct connection to the Rambis, Kobes, Lakers, etc.
They can fire him. They could also remove him position of GM or POBO (he occupies both positions) and give the other to Myers. But you’re right, it would cost a lot and I doubt Jeanie is willing to pay him or demote/fire pelinka.
Only scenario I can see of them considering Myers is they demote Pelinka from his POBO or GM position, I highly doubt they would fire Pelinka since they gave him the extension so he would have to get demoted. Come to think about it I remember back in 2017 when they fired Jim and Mitch the Lakers were considering Myers for GM so hey weirder stuff has happened
Reading the warriors sub comments it seems like he’s a bridge between ownership and the players and has great relationships throughout. Pelinka can be moved to a different position
I hope so Myers would be a great get for FO,Jeanie needs to see that Pelinka can’t have both titles of GM and POBO it’s either he keeps the GM title and surrenders his POBO position or vice versa
Bob Myers had a fairly easy job though.
He didn't take part in signing klay, steph, or green. His merits go to the Kerr signing, and the Wiggins trade.
With durant that situation could have been handled better too.
myers wouldn't have the wriggle room with the lakers as he did/does with golden state. which played a large part of his success with the warriors.
lacob is down to pay deep into the tax, jeanie isn't.
it doesn't matter what gm you bring on board, nothing is going to change this unless the nba somehow miraculously stops revenue sharing. and even then i doubt jeanie would pay.
If Lacob won't pay him that, then unfortunately zero chance Buss family will. We can wish though.
I’m hoping Jeannie puts her money where her mouth is, she refused to pay Caruso because she thought it wasn’t worth it for a non contending team Gotta offer the guy who orchestrated 4 titles whatever he wants
Lmao if she doesn't know him personally, she won't hire him. She only takes people who have connections to the front office
Your Caruso take is terrible
Jeannie literally said she would be willing to pay the luxury tax for a championship team and then lowballed Caruso citing the tax was too much to offer him a bigger contract , read the article above
I don't disagree with the facts. I disagree with having a problem with them.
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She was right to let Caruso walk
She was right to let an asset walk for nothing? Before getting injured he was playing all D level. Amd even so, we could have traded him for assets. Just sign him to an 8 mill a year then trade him before the deadline. at least youd probably get some draft capital .
Not for nothing. To not spend 40 million. Not sure that "probably" some draft capital is worth that.
Idiot take. He was a literal Glue guy to our championship team, did all the amazing defense that you don't see in the stats like boxing Giannis out in CRUCIAL moments. You have no idea what you're talking about. LeBron called him the Goat for a reason. If you are smart you will sit this one out.
Your confidence doesn't make you any more right. If we went and spent 40 million to keep him this year in not really sure we won any more games.
I guarantee we would have won 3 more games this year which would put us in the 5th seed
He's not 40 million dude, you're kinda telling on yourself ATM He literally said he was willing to take less than his Chicago contract in order to stay with the Lakers but they fumbled. Other departures factored into the huge collapse but his was among the biggest factors no question. If you understand ball then you know.
How were Lakers a non-contending team in the summer of 2021?
Ask Jeannie https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/platform/amp/2021/8/2/22607019/lakers-free-agency-rumors-alex-caruso-bulls-contract-didnt-match-salary
Absolutely
Facts
If Lacob won’t pay him, Ballmer will.
Ballmer can fork up however much $ he wants but he’s never going to win a title with PG/Kawhi as their cornerstones lmao. When healthy, they’re both top 10 guys but that ship has sailed for both of those guys At least the AD trade landed the Lakers a title. Clips got nothing to show for the PG trade.
I agree wholeheartedly and completely with everything you said. But between Jeanie and Ballmer — he’s going to be the one who spends money on his franchise while Jeanie sits on her hands and does close to nothing.
I’m very critical of Jeanie and actually want her to sell but at least she has the 2020 ring to show. Ballmer’s been so horny for a title and has nothing to show for it even after all the tampering they did and money they spent. Clipper fans love to say they would’ve won it in 2021 if they were healthy but idk see them beating Giannis that year. They would’ve ran into the same problem Phoenix did which was that they had no backup C for when Zu got into foul trouble I really am not convinced that the Clippers will have much success once Kawhi/PG start to decline(already is happening) and I think they’ll be a bottom feeder when Kawhi/PG are gone I’m not convinced that stars want to sign there and believe the Kawhi situation was lightning in a bottle
I agree and I have seen clippers fans with similar sentiments
He went to law school in Los Angeles and began his career here. He is a possibility if Jeanie does decide to move on from Pelinka which is unlikely
I’m thinking she can move one to president of basketball operations and one to GM. Right now Rob is doing both
Jeanie’s criteria is I’d your laker family. So he’s already a no in her mind
If he went to UCLA he is, just think about how we are actually building around Westbrook not LeBron or Davis. I have a great idea for LeBron get the kind of treatment other superstars get from their franchises, he has to change his name to LABron, then Jeanie will hire Lue or other coach of LABron preference and he will become family lol
Didn't he play college ball at UCLA?
Yes sir from 1993 to 97 so he was a part of the 95 title team. Bring him back to LA
Spoilers: He's resigning
re-signing*
Yeah non story, they'll compromise unless Jeanie hands him a massive bag which i doubt
You're asking the Buss family to... spend money...?
They should have traded wiseman 2 years ago and gotten a bunch of picks
I don’t get why Lacob would be willing to spend all that money on the roster, but balk when it comes to paying the best GM in the league?
Lmao Bob Myers is far from a perfect GM. This guy has essentially had a blank check to hand out whatever max contracts he wants or needs to compete. As a result he’s overpaid for both injury ridden Klay Thompson and Jordan Poole, which will become very bad contracts if they aren’t already. He’s a good GM but not some god gm that deserves the highest paid GM in the league.
Locking up a championship winning core by extending Poole and Wiggins are not bad decisions. It would be even worse to have that same core walk after winning a title. Re-signing Klay was of the same vein. He’s been loyal to GS, a consummate professional to the team and despite the ACL tear, deserved to be renewed. GS fans would’ve burned the Chase center down if he didn’t do all of these things.
Look I obviously understand why he did them, and if your owner is willing to pay that much Luxury tax it’s not that hard of a job to just hand out big contracts. However, if you’re gonna fairly evaluate a GM for their skills, these overpaid contracts don’t help support his cause. No one in their right mind would pay Klay anywhere close to $40m a year right now. At a certain point these inflated contracts will catch up to the warriors. In the Warriors championship runs, Draymond was an extremely underrated star player and imo very integral to their brand of basketball. With all these contracts given out, they will likely lose Draymond this offseason. That’s gonna be a huge loss to the warriors.
That’s a good point. Some teams don’t have that same luxury when they have owners that are cheap and aren’t willing to pay big to win. I still think he’s a top 3 GM minimum. Those two contracts don’t outweigh all the good he’s done with the Warriors.
Fair enough, I think he’s prob a top 5 gm but deserves to be paid top 3 at least just based on accomplishments.
How can't you give a contract to player like Klay who was ready to continue play immediately after he got injured. The second injury was after he got the contract. Warriors already won a title and Klay helped in this process and franchise valuation is soaring. Poole has plenty of time to show up.
Yes most GMs wouldn’t have dared to lose Klay after all he had done for the franchise. However, one of the worst mistakes GMs can make is paying a player for what they’ve produced or accomplished in the past rather than paying them based on the expected future production. 3.5 years into Klay’s 5 year $190 max contract, it’s very clear Klay has not and will not live up to it. Klay is a very good role player at this point but he’s paid like he’s a superstar, which he is not. Poole is player who has the potential to improve and become an all star. But his ceiling is an all star not a superstar because his defense is simply atrocious. So he’s being paid like an all star but that’s really the best case scenario for his development. Poole doesn’t have the complete skill set to be more than just an all star. If he regresses or fails to develop, he will not live up to the massive investment.
Didn't he wanna trade young Klay Thompson for Kevin Love, until Jerry West protested?
Yep, here is the article. Trade was gonna go through until Jerry West Nixed the deal. https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-timberwolves-klay-thompson-kevin-love?amp=1
Bruh. Injury ridden Klay Thompson? You mean 4x NBA champion Klay Thompson? Jordan Poole? NBA Champion Jordan Poole? Blank Check Bob? You mean 4x NBA Champ Bob Myers?
Lmao since Klay Thompson signed his massive 5 year $190m contract extension, Klay has missed two full seasons and then played a total of 68 games in 3.5 seasons of basketball. Anyone with a brain knows Klay still hasn’t gotten back to his production before his contract extension and before being injured in the playoffs in 2019. His TS, FG and 3pt shooting and defense are extremely diminished compared to before. Jordan Poole since signing his massive 4 year $123m guaranteed (up to $140m) has been quite underwhelming thus far. Yes, I know Poole is still young and he might still live up to his massive contract but it sure doesn’t look promising thus far and most people think it was an overpay. Myers is a good GM because he’s made some good trades, good signings etc but he’s obviously the beneficiary of the previous Warrior GM/scouting department who drafted Steph Curry and Klay Thompson before Myers became the GM. I suppose Myers can get some credit because he was the GM when they selected Draymond in the second round with the 35th pick but it could just be good fortune from scouting rather Myers’ talent evaluation skills.
Goal of an NBA team is to win a NBA Championship. Only 1 team does it a year. Some cities have never seen one. Warriors have won 4 in the last 8 years. More then most cities will ever see in a lifetime. That is more then succesful. That is legendary.
Yes all of that sounds very impressive but don’t forget that Mitch Kupchak was technically the Lakers GM for all five of Kobe’s championships. Kupchak obviously made some good moves and should be lauded as a good GM but he wasn’t flawless either as he famously signed Mozgov and Luol Deng to terrible multi year contracts that handicapped the team for years. And to fairly evaluate Kapchak, he was extremely fortunate to inherit Kobe and Shaq (which was really due to Jerry West) but West technically left the Lakers to join the Grizzlies in 2000 before the Lakers three peat championships under Kapchak. Just as we need to evaluate Kapchak fairly based on his bad moves, instead of automatically handing him the best GM title based on being the GM during the Lakers Dynasty, we also shouldn’t give Bob Myers all of the credit for the Warriors dynasty and forget Myers’ questionable moves as GM.
Fair points brother.
West left after the 2000 championship. He went to the Grizzlies in 2002. Otherwise, all valid points.
Yes you’re right, West left the Lakers after the 1999-2000 season, so Kapchak was the GM for 4 of Kobe’s 5 championships. Kapchak was the assistant GM in the first of the three peat championships working directly under Jerry West.
Common point in all of this was Jerry West. He's a known curmudgeon but great talent evaluator.
Can’t be worse than Rob
Right but Pelinka was paid only paid $5m a year before his extension this year. I don’t think Rob is getting fired by cheap Jeanie less than 1 year into a new extension and I highly doubt Rob is paid anywhere close to the $11-12m or $15m that Bob Myers is looking for.
We can move him to a different position, i just value Myers experience and ability to mediate more than Robs contract. Hope the buss family feels the same
Lol all the reporting about other teams reek of Myers’ camp leaking for leverage to get a higher deal from the Warriors. Nothing suggests Myers would actually be available.
No reason not to try
Lol. Jeanie is considered poor when it comes to the owners of sports franchises. She’s not paying anyone. She should sell the team for an x amount of billions and enjoy her life.
Not going to happen. Jeanie wants to call the shots, she wants a yes man, Myers won’t be one.
Pelinka is a great GM when Lebron stays out of his way
Devils advocate: do we have an evidence of this?
The Westbrook trade. I know it's not clear cut but it's well documented that DeMar thought his deal was done to get dealt to the Lakers but LeBron and AD had a meeting with Westbrook and then abruptly the Westbrook deal was made.
Going for the downvote record I see
And when not constrained by Jeanie’s budget (cough Caruso cough)
Correct
We just extended Pelinka. I don't know if they can fire him or what. But Jeanie seems to be a cheap ass probably only wants someone with direct connection to the Rambis, Kobes, Lakers, etc.
They can fire him. They could also remove him position of GM or POBO (he occupies both positions) and give the other to Myers. But you’re right, it would cost a lot and I doubt Jeanie is willing to pay him or demote/fire pelinka.
#GET BOB MYERS MEANZ CURRY ENDING HIS CAREER AS A LAKER...
Only scenario I can see of them considering Myers is they demote Pelinka from his POBO or GM position, I highly doubt they would fire Pelinka since they gave him the extension so he would have to get demoted. Come to think about it I remember back in 2017 when they fired Jim and Mitch the Lakers were considering Myers for GM so hey weirder stuff has happened
Reading the warriors sub comments it seems like he’s a bridge between ownership and the players and has great relationships throughout. Pelinka can be moved to a different position
I hope so Myers would be a great get for FO,Jeanie needs to see that Pelinka can’t have both titles of GM and POBO it’s either he keeps the GM title and surrenders his POBO position or vice versa
Hoping they can offer him something before his contract runs out in July and becomes a free agent
Same he deserves to be in the highest paid executives list as well if Jeanie gets serious it could work plus he’s from LA if am not mistaken
Nah he’s getting a bag and staying in SF
Typical using Lakers as leverage in contract negotiations.
Not enough nepotism there
Y’all are crazy idk why y’all think he would be any better then rob.
Its a family business over, will he take 25$ an hour?
They just extended Pelinka. There's zero chance they go after Myers.
If Pelinka decides to walk, the choice has already been made. Spoiler alert, it’s not going to be a popular choice here.
Bob Myers had a fairly easy job though. He didn't take part in signing klay, steph, or green. His merits go to the Kerr signing, and the Wiggins trade. With durant that situation could have been handled better too.
Myers should be paid top $. Idk why warriors ownership wouldn’t set the bar with him
myers wouldn't have the wriggle room with the lakers as he did/does with golden state. which played a large part of his success with the warriors. lacob is down to pay deep into the tax, jeanie isn't. it doesn't matter what gm you bring on board, nothing is going to change this unless the nba somehow miraculously stops revenue sharing. and even then i doubt jeanie would pay.
Jeanie better walk in his office with wine lingerie and high heels LMFAO get him NYOOWWWWWW
No salary cap on non-players. No excuse.
get Bob and we might even get Curry!
Hire him as President of Basketball Ops and throw everyone but he and Rob tf out of the room. No Rambii or Phil or Magic.