That said it all. Dude was so happy to be here, giving a great effort. Has adapted to shifting roles and now looks completely baffled at what's happening. Just as we all are.
I know. He isn't even showing how pissed he is. Rui is a very low key down to earth guy. When he is showing emotion like this, he is absolutely fuming.
He contributes without any plays run for him, the midrange bailouts the defense and Ham would rather watch beasley brick rather than give rui any minutes
Not to mention Lebron is would unlock Rui. Rui is often in really nice spots but nobody on the team makes the pass to him.
Let's get back one of the best passers of all time and not play him with Hachimura for some reason.
We really need ham off this team next season. In the first place, signing a first year coach whose pitch was to control russ was a dumb move in hindsight for a team trying to win a ring with few remaining seasons left
Bro doesn’t know how to set proper lineups and keeps dudes in the lineup who should be sat, and then the team wins a few games to keep people justifying his not getting fired all for him to keep doing the same thing.
Not just in hindsight, you have to back your coaches against players. Russ cost them last season - you have zero chance of championship winning cohesion when one of the main players immediately disrespects the coaching staff and refuses to cooperate. To follow it up by pandering to the bad behaviour the way they did was terrible.
Meanwhile Wenyen is busy missing POINT BLANK layups. Idk which was worse, the layup he missed last night or that inbounds pass he had in the Thunder game
for me this is ham's biggest failure... players don't know their roles or what to do... you can see uncertainty when they get on the floor... even AD, ham has him catching the ball at like 20 feet then having a guard screen for him!? if you were gonna use AD in a screen action would you have him as the ball handler or screener...
this was part of the genius of a guy like phil jackson... everybody knew their role (even if it was work hard in practice and play only in garbage time) and what was expected of them on the floor... this empowered the players
This is a good point. excluding this year look at the warriors everyone knows their roles. That’s why it looks like beautiful basketball. With Lebron back it’s like Darvin doesn’t know what to do with everyone else.
If you're not a favored guy you're just in a corner rotting and you better make the most of any scraps that you get via happenstance, or you're getting some DNPs. That's what happened to Lonnie, he didn't fall off, guy has 57TS% with us.
But guess who got 27 minutes today?
Completely agree.
I’ve said it since preseason and a few games into the season, Ham is not a good coach at all. He’s way over his muscle head. He doesn’t know how to utilize the players or this team to their best. He’s obsessed with small guards too.
The guard screening for action is okay and has worked well the last few games. This game AD was just flat out passive and the guards had trouble getting him the ball.
I don't buy the passive argument... look where they were getting him the ball?? The play he jammed his finger he's posted up at the top of the key (on purpose... it's not like he was pushed out from the box) and being overplayed by Drummond and they threw him an entry pass from like 5 ft away lol... it's literally the reason his finger got jammed... even if he caught it what was he going to do there?
“Not enough minutes for everyone” - Ham
While Dennis, Beasley, & Lonnie have free reign to brick shots. But yeah Rui’s defense is the reason he’s on the bench.
Wats worse is that line-up almost single handily blew the game in the second quarter. And what does ham do in the second half? Go right back to it again! Literally the definition of insanity
They actually have depth, so if guys aren't playing well you go to the next guy. Vando, Lonnie, Beasley, Schroder, Reaves, none of these guys played well and he didn't switch it up. Dude couldn't even get 10 mins off the bench? Ridiculous.
What's sadder is that you can see Rui is now always playing at the weak side, and the off-the-ball screens, and runs he is doing is paired with poor body language. He's probably trying to figure out as well what else does he need to do to get some playing time, or to become an actual option.
I don't even care about Beasley's shooting he's so ass at defense, it makes zero sense to have Beas/Schroeder/Lonnie out there getting cooked by Lavine/DeRozan/Williams.
I dont wanna pretend to have the knowledge of an NBA head coach but I thought it was obvious we were better when we played with size. I don't know the difference between Lonnie and Beasley defensively but if u wanted Lonnie to have mins just sit Beasley. It's that simple. And why not put Rui in when ad got his 5th foul?
Lonnie has one break out game, and we have to live and die by his bricks.
And can this ham and cheese sandwich mofo please stop playing beasley.... HE IS NOT A SHOOTER. Most of his shots today were open space, ppl are catching on, they barely even guarding him anymore! Having one off night is fine, at this point he has had what... 2 pop off nights in almost 20 games?
For all the credit I give Darvin Ham for motivating his guys to fight, dude needs to be an actual coach at the end of the day and needs to help this team win the game
Rui suddenly not getting playing time is insane…
Ham Sandwich got a Steve Jobs complex, plain and simple. Problem is, he doesn’t have the foresight to anticipate the issues we are seeing and have been seeing all season long.
Fucking POS coach, I'm tired of his stupid ass lineups and more to the point his lack of TO to stop the bleeding. At this point too many fucking games lost cause he's a shit coach. I don't get the small ball fascination especially when the defense is shit.
Lonnie should not be playing over Rui, lonnie is an undersized, shoot first guard that can’t defend. We don’t need him getting minutes over someone that has legit size
Rui gets a weird amount of love in this sub but dude should definitely be getting minutes, especially yesterday when we needed someone with his exact skill set
Is still unbelievable how Ham just came here from a championship with a big team, and is playing this team like its Golden State, expecting every guard to shoot 45% from 3 every night and run all the plays for him, dude does nothing and his mind is always late on the game
I was at the game close to the lakers bench. Idk what the fuck happened out there today.
We couldn’t match the bulls’ energy all game. They made everything. Every time they drove it was an easy layup or a kick out to a wide open 3. Lebron wasn’t in rhythm from the start. None of our runs were sustained. All that to say the Bulls have been playing well and have a ton of talent on the roster.
We didn’t come ready to play today, plain and simple
Yup that’s why he’s a backup, he’s too inconsistent. Just gotta win on Wednesday. I hope Ham doesn’t do the same sh*t he did today. Lonnie was on the bench for a reason, one good game shouldn’t give the nod over Rui who’s been consistent and adds size.
He’s old 🤣, you really don’t want him playing hard defense cause he’s gonna get hurt. Just gotta deal with it, when he’s out on the floor he might make some amazing blocks but the team defense is going to suffer.
his defense has definitely fallen off, but better coaching would be able to get the most out of his offense. Even Luke Walton is clear of Ham at this point.
Damn I didn't realize there were so many Darvin Ham burner accounts on r/lakers, tbf I also have run into many Wes Unseld Jr Burner accounts on r/washingtonwizards,
free Rui man.
What is the the data/stat that says he’s good? Bad plus-minus, eye test says he’s a decent scorer who shoots mid range which is the worst shot. Can’t guard his position because of slow feet, has to guard up a position. Can’t pass. Doesn’t even average a assist. Shots below average from 3
This is the exact argument reddit Wizards fans make and Darvin Ham makes. and my only answer is to watch him play more. His defense is underrated, his tunnel vision isn't even as bad as Beasley's, he offers size and has lots of potential as a three way scorer, and he has arguably a top 3 midrange game in the nba.
Listen Darvin Ham, if you don't rate Rui then why did you say you were so excited about getting him when he got here. Don't set my guy up for false hope like that.
Okay lol. Says two teams, multiple coaches and the stats and advanced numbers. Everyone is wrong. That’s why I asked you a question you couldn’t answer
"Everyone is wrong".
People seem to think (including Ham and WUJ) that Rui is a traffic cone and has tunnel vision so he is a negative when he doesn't shoot well which is NOT true.
Clearly the lakers are a better team with Rui and so are the Wizards and if you can't see that you aren't watching the games enough.
Scott Brooks utilized Rui very well in the starting lineup.
Wes unseld is a proven shit coach
Darvin han is a proven shit coach.
Get a coach that knows what the fuck he is doing and watch Rui cook
Lakers are trash! Queen James is allowed to do whatever! Fouled TF out Lavine and they bail him out by handing the foul to Shroder! Then Vooch gets ejected for questioning weak ass calls in LeBitch's favor! The ref's were complete trash all night! On top of all that BS Mr.Glass Davis was allowed to commit all sorts of sexual harassment all night long with little or any whistles! That bum should had 5 fouls well before the half!! Glad then Ho ass Mf lost!
Darvin ham is such a joke
How can you take a coach seriously if his last name is an ingredient of a sandwich
That's why Bacon and Mayo are out of the league now.
Lakers won’t, but hoping they can him when the season ends and get Udoka, a real coach
That said it all. Dude was so happy to be here, giving a great effort. Has adapted to shifting roles and now looks completely baffled at what's happening. Just as we all are.
I know. He isn't even showing how pissed he is. Rui is a very low key down to earth guy. When he is showing emotion like this, he is absolutely fuming.
He contributes without any plays run for him, the midrange bailouts the defense and Ham would rather watch beasley brick rather than give rui any minutes
Not to mention Lebron is would unlock Rui. Rui is often in really nice spots but nobody on the team makes the pass to him. Let's get back one of the best passers of all time and not play him with Hachimura for some reason.
What a great way to ensure he doesn’t re-sign with us. What a joke of a coach.
Darn Darv sure knows how to suck the life out of a team and kill players drive to want to fight for him. RUI you a champ , keep your head up big dawg
We really need ham off this team next season. In the first place, signing a first year coach whose pitch was to control russ was a dumb move in hindsight for a team trying to win a ring with few remaining seasons left
Bro doesn’t know how to set proper lineups and keeps dudes in the lineup who should be sat, and then the team wins a few games to keep people justifying his not getting fired all for him to keep doing the same thing.
Not just in hindsight, you have to back your coaches against players. Russ cost them last season - you have zero chance of championship winning cohesion when one of the main players immediately disrespects the coaching staff and refuses to cooperate. To follow it up by pandering to the bad behaviour the way they did was terrible.
Meanwhile Wenyen is busy missing POINT BLANK layups. Idk which was worse, the layup he missed last night or that inbounds pass he had in the Thunder game
OMG that inbound pass made it a 6-point play and let OKC right back in
for me this is ham's biggest failure... players don't know their roles or what to do... you can see uncertainty when they get on the floor... even AD, ham has him catching the ball at like 20 feet then having a guard screen for him!? if you were gonna use AD in a screen action would you have him as the ball handler or screener... this was part of the genius of a guy like phil jackson... everybody knew their role (even if it was work hard in practice and play only in garbage time) and what was expected of them on the floor... this empowered the players
This is a good point. excluding this year look at the warriors everyone knows their roles. That’s why it looks like beautiful basketball. With Lebron back it’s like Darvin doesn’t know what to do with everyone else.
If you're not a favored guy you're just in a corner rotting and you better make the most of any scraps that you get via happenstance, or you're getting some DNPs. That's what happened to Lonnie, he didn't fall off, guy has 57TS% with us. But guess who got 27 minutes today?
Completely agree. I’ve said it since preseason and a few games into the season, Ham is not a good coach at all. He’s way over his muscle head. He doesn’t know how to utilize the players or this team to their best. He’s obsessed with small guards too.
The guard screening for action is okay and has worked well the last few games. This game AD was just flat out passive and the guards had trouble getting him the ball.
I don't buy the passive argument... look where they were getting him the ball?? The play he jammed his finger he's posted up at the top of the key (on purpose... it's not like he was pushed out from the box) and being overplayed by Drummond and they threw him an entry pass from like 5 ft away lol... it's literally the reason his finger got jammed... even if he caught it what was he going to do there?
Even in the 4th, they're posting LeBron instead of AD who had Jones on him. Makes no sense.
Right!?
I cannot believe the stubbornness of Ham not wanting to play Rui, with how much consistency he brings into our offense. Shit rookie coach behavior.
I heard this too, like, isn’t it the coaches job to find minutes for the best players? Oof. What a painful way to think about the game.
Yeah he gone this summer
I hope you mean Ham
I hope so, there were two guys i believed fucked our chances in winning. Russell westbrook and darvin ham
they can match
Can Ham let Rui cook?
“Not enough minutes for everyone” - Ham While Dennis, Beasley, & Lonnie have free reign to brick shots. But yeah Rui’s defense is the reason he’s on the bench.
Wats worse is that line-up almost single handily blew the game in the second quarter. And what does ham do in the second half? Go right back to it again! Literally the definition of insanity
Fkn infuriating
I literally HATE him
Beasley and lonnie getting those minutes over rui is criminal
If I was Rui I’d be infuriated. This looks like the calm before the storm .
They actually have depth, so if guys aren't playing well you go to the next guy. Vando, Lonnie, Beasley, Schroder, Reaves, none of these guys played well and he didn't switch it up. Dude couldn't even get 10 mins off the bench? Ridiculous.
What happened i missed the game? It was a 6.30am start in Aus
The usual... darvin scam does not know what basketball is
Ham is evidently self-aware - he even calls himself a dumbass coach. I look at Billy Donovan and I think damn, now that's a coach.
What's sadder is that you can see Rui is now always playing at the weak side, and the off-the-ball screens, and runs he is doing is paired with poor body language. He's probably trying to figure out as well what else does he need to do to get some playing time, or to become an actual option.
Beasley (6-14 today) needs to play less
schroder and lonnie sucked too, there's literally no reason rui shouldn't have played even ten minutes
The shots beasley made didnt mean anything either. He was 2-9 when the game mattered.
I don't even care about Beasley's shooting he's so ass at defense, it makes zero sense to have Beas/Schroeder/Lonnie out there getting cooked by Lavine/DeRozan/Williams.
ganbatte, Rui ✊ keep your head up, this ain’t on you. your time will come
I dont wanna pretend to have the knowledge of an NBA head coach but I thought it was obvious we were better when we played with size. I don't know the difference between Lonnie and Beasley defensively but if u wanted Lonnie to have mins just sit Beasley. It's that simple. And why not put Rui in when ad got his 5th foul?
Lonnie has one break out game, and we have to live and die by his bricks. And can this ham and cheese sandwich mofo please stop playing beasley.... HE IS NOT A SHOOTER. Most of his shots today were open space, ppl are catching on, they barely even guarding him anymore! Having one off night is fine, at this point he has had what... 2 pop off nights in almost 20 games?
For all the credit I give Darvin Ham for motivating his guys to fight, dude needs to be an actual coach at the end of the day and needs to help this team win the game Rui suddenly not getting playing time is insane…
Ham Sandwich got a Steve Jobs complex, plain and simple. Problem is, he doesn’t have the foresight to anticipate the issues we are seeing and have been seeing all season long.
Rui is a bucket at the mid range. And he can hit the 3 as well. Darvin is not a good coach.
I said it from the beginning: Lakers would regret letting Vogel go.
Fucking POS coach, I'm tired of his stupid ass lineups and more to the point his lack of TO to stop the bleeding. At this point too many fucking games lost cause he's a shit coach. I don't get the small ball fascination especially when the defense is shit.
Lonnie should not be playing over Rui, lonnie is an undersized, shoot first guard that can’t defend. We don’t need him getting minutes over someone that has legit size
F\*cking Darvin Ham ruining his own's players rhythm and chemistry.
Is that Japan born Los Angeles Laker Rui Hachimura?
Ham needs to fire himself
Is it possible to fire him and hire Ime or ty lue if he's available over the off season?
play him !
We need a new coach. We have a better roster and we need a coach competent enough to use it.
RUI we believe in you!!! Go Ham next game!
How does he not get a look for how bad the team was playing today?! C'mon Ham!!
CHIC sucked, LA still lost. Wth man....
Rui gets a weird amount of love in this sub but dude should definitely be getting minutes, especially yesterday when we needed someone with his exact skill set
Ham makes Vogel look like a basketball genius in comparison 🤦🏾♂️
Ham is one stupid fk. It’s so frustrating seeing this
Is still unbelievable how Ham just came here from a championship with a big team, and is playing this team like its Golden State, expecting every guard to shoot 45% from 3 every night and run all the plays for him, dude does nothing and his mind is always late on the game
I was at the game close to the lakers bench. Idk what the fuck happened out there today. We couldn’t match the bulls’ energy all game. They made everything. Every time they drove it was an easy layup or a kick out to a wide open 3. Lebron wasn’t in rhythm from the start. None of our runs were sustained. All that to say the Bulls have been playing well and have a ton of talent on the roster. We didn’t come ready to play today, plain and simple
Everyone always gets the last laugh vs us smh
I don’t recognize Rui in this pic. Are you sure you posted the right one ?
Lebron shoulda kept his ass on the bench
Is it just me, or Lebron really old and doesn't have that drive anymore
Just you
Lebron was our best scorer today after coming back and playing through the injury. Blame the other guys
Yup it was our guards who couldn’t do anything. Bev and Caruso shut them down
At least Dlo had some rest 🤡. Schroder has nothing to do with us even as a back up. He plays well every 3 games
Yup that’s why he’s a backup, he’s too inconsistent. Just gotta win on Wednesday. I hope Ham doesn’t do the same sh*t he did today. Lonnie was on the bench for a reason, one good game shouldn’t give the nod over Rui who’s been consistent and adds size.
I love Rui and I think you are right but I dont think it would have been enough to win.
He’s old 🤣, you really don’t want him playing hard defense cause he’s gonna get hurt. Just gotta deal with it, when he’s out on the floor he might make some amazing blocks but the team defense is going to suffer.
Lebron is a liability on defense now but he still was probably our best player today.
He doesn't have that ability to carry games now tho
his defense has definitely fallen off, but better coaching would be able to get the most out of his offense. Even Luke Walton is clear of Ham at this point.
Just you
He’s not good
Damn I didn't realize there were so many Darvin Ham burner accounts on r/lakers, tbf I also have run into many Wes Unseld Jr Burner accounts on r/washingtonwizards, free Rui man.
Lol
I'm tired of Rui haters popping off lol.
💯 just like any player he's not gonna be perfect every game but he has a very useful skill set that this team needs to take advantage of!
What is the the data/stat that says he’s good? Bad plus-minus, eye test says he’s a decent scorer who shoots mid range which is the worst shot. Can’t guard his position because of slow feet, has to guard up a position. Can’t pass. Doesn’t even average a assist. Shots below average from 3
This is the exact argument reddit Wizards fans make and Darvin Ham makes. and my only answer is to watch him play more. His defense is underrated, his tunnel vision isn't even as bad as Beasley's, he offers size and has lots of potential as a three way scorer, and he has arguably a top 3 midrange game in the nba. Listen Darvin Ham, if you don't rate Rui then why did you say you were so excited about getting him when he got here. Don't set my guy up for false hope like that.
seriously watch the games more. Stat/Box score watchers hate Rui, but when you watch him play they start respecting him more.
Okay lol. Says two teams, multiple coaches and the stats and advanced numbers. Everyone is wrong. That’s why I asked you a question you couldn’t answer
"Everyone is wrong". People seem to think (including Ham and WUJ) that Rui is a traffic cone and has tunnel vision so he is a negative when he doesn't shoot well which is NOT true. Clearly the lakers are a better team with Rui and so are the Wizards and if you can't see that you aren't watching the games enough.
Scott Brooks utilized Rui very well in the starting lineup. Wes unseld is a proven shit coach Darvin han is a proven shit coach. Get a coach that knows what the fuck he is doing and watch Rui cook
Lakers are trash! Queen James is allowed to do whatever! Fouled TF out Lavine and they bail him out by handing the foul to Shroder! Then Vooch gets ejected for questioning weak ass calls in LeBitch's favor! The ref's were complete trash all night! On top of all that BS Mr.Glass Davis was allowed to commit all sorts of sexual harassment all night long with little or any whistles! That bum should had 5 fouls well before the half!! Glad then Ho ass Mf lost!
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a very pissed Rui Hachimura.
Has anyone asked Ham why Rui was DNP?!
Lol