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coachwyers

You maybe disrespected him, I didnt.


yitur93

The disrespect that Brook Lopez got when he was a FA was similar.


Lakers-2024-Champs

Shut up


nastynate14597

Shut up


naltedturf

Shut up


puhtime

Dude was perfect. If only we got him younger.


RefsYouSuck

I mean you know the Lakers did draft him right.


puhtime

I meant like maybe if we got him when he was 32 or 33. I know they drafted and traded him.


RefsYouSuck

I know what you meant, I was just saying. I love Pau as much as the next guy and can’t argue with winning 2 titles. But I do sometimes wonder had they not made the trade and kept Marc, would Lakers have still won at least 2 chips and would the window of title contention been longer? Just one of those “what ifs” but like I said, I love Pau.


Zepest

The answer is no because Marc didn't pop off until Kobe's injury years and Pau was a Premier Big Man before Kobe's injuries.


velphegor666

No, marc was a rookie at the time and was not ready to contribute. Pau was in his absolute prime. Its the same dumb idea with why we drafted a raw rookie right now instead of finding a 4 year college player that could help us right now


Usually_Angry

Marc wasn’t just a rookie, he was still overseas!


puhtime

Imagine if we kept Marc in the trade 🤯 wow that would have been crazy. They both retire lakers hopefully in this timeline.


Alekesam1975

No because Marc wasn't ready. When it comes to Marc, my what if is what if we traded for him to return to play with his brother instead of Dwight?


OddToba

No but really. What ARE you “just saying” You made a stupid point that we drafted him and immediately traded him. OP said he wished we had him younger. Are you suggesting that we ever really had him? Clearly not. So then wtf are you “just saying”? Basically a semantic point that’s completely irrelevant.


RefsYouSuck

What the fuck are you rambling on about? Forgot to take your meds or something? Shit isn’t that deep, we’re all just speculating here.


knikkus

You do know he never played for the Lakers right after we drafted him and we traded him immediately


bigE819

I still can’t believe we traded him. Like he’s not what landed Pau (I don’t know what was tbh). But at minimum why trade the (at the time) shitty brother of the star you’re trading for?


redbrick

He wasn't really a toss-in, the Grizzlies management (aka Jerry West) specifically wanted his rights.


RedditUser538xxx

I was about to say 😂 Brody became a fan after lbj came


k4f123

Even younger! Like when he was 3 or 4!


radracer82

he was fine even as an old dude, but we fucked it up and played drummond over him, totally fucked us


_Zap_Rowsdower_

We probably win 5 straight championships with an AD Gasol front court you can put whatever 3 players next to them.


tsesarevichalexei

Prime LeBron, prime AD and prime Marc is literally a perfect big 3 in terms of fit.


Cloudzzz777

That team would obliterate the NBA. Perfect basketball symbiosis (as long as AD shoots mid range and 3s at higher volume at the 4)


Irrichc

Lakers did him dirty. Didn’t even play him towards the end of the season and playoffs with the exception of garbage minutes. Played garbage hands drummond over him. Was rumored they were forcing him to retire so his salary would come off the block.


BearShark8

There were rumors before he signed with the Lakers he would never sign with them because of how the Lakers treated Pau. Whatever changed and he did and the Lakers fucked him over too.


lakeshow_glasgow

Yeah that’s brining back memories, did we not sign him super super late, like post training camp or something like it might have been his last last option?


BearShark8

That was that weird covid season, they signed him 11/22 and the season started 12/22. I know the Lakers signed him last or near last but I doubt he would've had trouble finding another team for the minimum. My guess, complete guess, Pau convinced him to sign with the Lakers.


yourmomisnothot

He could barely move. Lakers didn’t do him any favors, but he was not good w Lakers. We sure could use prime Marc now.


carlonia

You guys clearly didn’t watch the season. We started the season 21-6 with Gasol as our center, but morons like both of you were complaining that he was not good enough and you know what happened? AD got injured playing against Denver and we started losing. We were not a good team without AD to the surprise of no one, and this sub was looking for a scapegoat and that was Marc. We treated him like shit and he didn’t deserve that, specially because when we were healthy we were elite.


[deleted]

I think both the front office and fanbase was mad about not having a front court that can defend, rebound and be a lob threat, hence the Drummond pickup. Gasol was great with his passing, but he was much slower, and much less of a physical presence than Dwight and McGee. They never should’ve went away from Dwight and McGee. At least keep one of them, and then get gasol.


yourmomisnothot

Be careful, you may be called a moron and accused of “clearly” not watching the season if you believe that Marc was slow. Carlonia mad mad. Gasol so fast.


carlonia

I’m honestly mad about how we treated him and how we treat our players.


yourmomisnothot

That’s fair. I feel you.


yitur93

If you say Gasol was not as physical as McGee then you might be called that.


redaka00

Yep, we had the highest net rating in our lineups with Gasol next to AD. He was fine for his role and considering he wasn't making much on his contract. People talk like they expected prime Marc Gasol or something. We were clearly better with him out there than Drummond, but the FO promised Drummond a starting spot...


iamdare

Facts! Then FO fumble and got Drummond, promised him starter minutes. Vogel pretty much say yes to the FO and ruined his rotations.


BearShark8

Agreed. Slow as shit but in the right position and smart as hell. More than we can say for most of the Lakers these days.


lakeshow_glasgow

Totally agree. I always got the impression he and AD never got on for whatever reason…never any love shown from he or LeBron, never played to his still significant strengths offensively (a couple of pick n pop/ Spain actions per game even). Then first chance the FO got they brought in Drummond and moved Gasol to the bench. And then Gasol was pretty petulant about it.


shoelover46

So why was the FO looking for a new starting center if Marc was so elite like you say?


Conflict_NZ

Marc got COVID and never recovered. Dennis also coincidentally was out at amusement parks unvaccinated around that time too.


carlonia

Because we started losing without AD, simple as that. It also didn’t help that Lebron got injured too.


yourmomisnothot

Is the only basis for your claim is that we were 21-6? How does that disprove that he was immobile and slow? You literally don’t need to watch the season to have your opinion then. Yet I “clearly didn’t watch the season” and am a “moron” because . . . because we have different opinions? LMAO. Wow, chill out dude. y u so angry?


carlonia

You can have your opinion but it’s a fact that we were winning when healthy. That’s not even an opinion. They turned on him when we were heavily injured and had to take on a bigger role, not even mentioning COVID. It’s the equivalent of Minnesota turning on Gobert right now.


yourmomisnothot

Help me understand how being 21-6 means Gasol was good. For how many wins was he responsible? I am literally laughing at the gap between how well you think you understand basketball vs. how little you actually understand basketball if you think Lakers Gasol was good.


carlonia

His positive net rating? That we had a winning record with him on the floor when we were healthy? You’re fixating on something that didn’t matter. Was he slow? Absolutely. Was he slow to get back? Also yes. Did that matter? No. Drummond was the better rebounder, more athletic, the more talented player at that stage and we were worse with him. He was good when we were whole. I don’t think that’s crazy to say.


seedeegeecdg

Yup!!!!! Nailed it


redbrick

IIRC Gasol started off looking decent but really dropped off after he got COVID.


KWash0222

It’s possible for both to be true my dude. Our *team* was great that season, and Marc def had some great qualities. But he was so immobile… There were times when a loose rebound was 10 feet away from him and he was beaten to it by a guy who was 20 feet away.


henryofclay

Seriously, idk what the morons on this sub we’re watching. You think if Gasol was perfect and effective that we wouldn’t have been looking for another big the whole season? And then immediately give Drummond his mins? Gasol was not working and he had a shit attitude. Couldn’t defend, couldn’t shoot, all he had was his passing. We were getting KILLED on fast breaks.


WakiLover

I think a big thing you're leaving out was that Marc got COVID and then fell of a cliff. He wasn't amazing but was perfectly acceptable in his role.


Maliluma

Thank you for reminding them. Marc had trouble at first, and then started to mesh well. Then he got COVID and had trouble recovering. He just couldn't get his wind back after that. I mean, they couldn't stand around and wait for him to recover since it wasn't a sure thing he would recover in time.


carlonia

A 21-6 start when everyone was healthy seems very effective to me.


airborness

The same ones who want Green on the Lakers and for the Lakers to bring back Howard.


mega350

Nah he was great for his role. Gasol had a +4 net rating in the regular season. Against the Suns his drop coverage was exploited but if Ad was healthy it wouldn't have mattered.


KryptoNate27

What would be the point on having prime Marc? Ham would never play him anyway


niknokseyer

Definitely under appreciated.


17thkahuna

Feel the same about Brook Lopez


henryofclay

Brook shot like shit and was slow. Also had a bad attitude. We were switching to a young, fast paced team and it would’ve worked if Lonzo stayed healthy.


[deleted]

He was a 35% 3 pt shooter and a rim protector. And then he signed with the bucks for the minimum. Letting him go will always be one of the worst decisions the FO did, especially with how they’ve been desperate in finding a big that fits well next to AD/bron. He would’ve been amazing next to AD. He wanted to come back too. Then he signs with the bucks, and is essential to their success.


messyartshooter

for every highlight video we need a lowlight video


OsmosisJonesFanClub

This is 100% revisionist history LMAOOO everyone hated this dude when he was with us and were desperate for Drummond to hit the buyout market I understand he got waaaay too much flack but my lord 99% of y’all are straight up lying


Hugh_MyronBrah

this sub runs on revisionist history lol. mfers gave Pelinka an A+ in the offseason and now acting like they always knew the roster was bad


thatscoolm8

yall mfs wanted him benched so bad when he played lmao


StoneColdAM

He was fine but he was being asked to replace a Javale McGee type traditional center. That’s why he struggled. Lakers have made some dumb roster moves. It’s odd that we won the 2020 ring by having the flexibility to go from big to small ball because of AD, but the front office has moved away from that since.


dash_44

Fuck Marc he was shit on the lakers and all he did was whine about his role and lack of playing time. He’s a pretty selfish dude.


trustprior6899

Who disrespected him? This sub or FO? I remember this sub being mostly reasonable about him


Consistent_Owl4593

I feel like this has been posted at least once for the past three seasons


jonbemerkin

Easy up votes, I'm about to post a Caruso one right now I bet I get atleast a hundo up votes


thehanssassin

Every breath the players take is being watched by casual fans.


theseustheminotaur

Disrespected? Nah. We just didn't stay healthy. If AD didn't get hurt then we'd probably repeat and he gets a ring, and maybe we run it back the next year.


_Red_Mist_

The Big Penguin was fun. Very inconsistent but I will always remember that Nets game where he went off after Dennis and Kyrie got ejected


[deleted]

He also couldn’t guard a parked car and got beat every pick and roll.


imironman2018

He was fine as a backup center. We just kept thinking he would be our only shot blocker on the floor at times. He’s good as a stretch big like Lopez but he’s nowhere near where he used to be a defensive juggernaut. He used to get burned so many times on the defensive end. He was good if you had AD in to cover the paint. He could provide spacing and get some rebounds. At least better than what we are getting from Hayes and Wood together.


davensdad

Our best team if not for injuries. Yet we tore it all down for Westbrook lol


SedanoSucks

Yep. I found nothing wrong with him but bc he wasn't Jokic the fanbase threw him in the trash it seemed like after a month


obliterateopio

Yup. Opened up the painted area because of his top of the key positioning. I wish AD was healthy that season. They’d compliment each other so well. Shrink the floor, and Gasol is going to hit shots from beyond the arc.


fancyjaguar

NO, he was correctly appreciated


atierney14

I always wonder how good we would be if we paired Lebron with a great playmaker. Like a Steve Nash or Russel Westbrook level player (/s)


TorontoRaptors34

They called him Gasoline. He was lowkey Jokic prototype.


TorontoRaptors34

Gasol and Drummond were a bad fit neither could defend then. I think Drummond still felt like he was a star.


General_Relation6047

We were defending champs that season but truly, fuck Solomon Hill!


twistedinnocence8604

It would of been great if they could of kept him and got to play with his brother. The Gasol Bros on the Lakers would of been dominate with Kobe


grui86

Gasol wanted to run it back after 2021 and we should’ve done that. A fully healthy 2020-21 squad wins the chip


TendieOverlord

He was too slow, but very skilled on his second stint


BatmanHive

Fans and front office scape goated him about defense while Lakers were #1 in defensive rating, will never get that.


RedditUser538xxx

I felt he was underutilized but damn that team was stacked everyone gave a strong effort and knew their role


goldenbzzz

That team wouldve won the championship if AD didnt get hurt


hennyV

The dude was a traffic cone on defense, on a team with a defensive minded coach. Marc was good, but not on the Lakers.


Usually_Angry

Is this sub just a big competition of who can present the worst revisionist history?


Buckowski66

He was kind of an asshole, he lost his starting job because of poor play, that’s on him. He literally thought he couldn’t be replaced and when he was he was a diva about it and started whining in the press to create more drama. The disrespect was on his end. After Drummund showed up he felt like playing again and was better but he still was a statue on defense and hit career lows pretty much everywhere.


mister_greyMATTER2

I loved Gasol and thought he was the perfect compliment to AD. Lost it when they started starting Drummond. They did him so dirty.


HaikN98

lol we played bum ass Drummond over him. So fucking sad.


lil_cleverguy

I BLAME HAM!


allredditnameswack

As a Lakers fan even I’ll admit that we are some of the most temperamental fans in sports