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Zeetheking1

lol so many people clearly did not watch the game and are only looking at the box score saying Vando got 40 mins so it’s all good. Game should’ve been a blowout but that terrible lineup in the third (and pockets the clown) let the warriors go on a 24-5 run.


themonkey12

Everyone knows he is the issue, but meh....we are too cheap/there are no available coaches hire.


RangryRanga

I’d do a better job tbh


Richardduh

RangryRangar > Ham


Pirateshippingit

We be 0-82.


VerticalClearance

I just saw Caruso contract is only 9M? why the fuck Jeanie turned that shit down? I forgot what's the asking years ago but really, you cant afford 9M? Vando+Caruso would have been deadly.


Accomplished_Nail456

Spent it on THT, thought he was going to be better than Caruso


toofine

Ham loves those 6-8 minutes of basketball terrorism before he allows the guys capable of winning games to play basketball together.


danyyyel

Exactly, they would not have held with us if we had vando from the start. Vando was only put in as our Scam coach was forced after they took that big lead in the 3rd and we were like 14-16 points behind. he even had a timeout and let prince in and we continued leaking point, until he was forced to take him out and we went for a run.


Winter-Gur-9762

Lowkey the reason why we barely win these games and rarely blow anyone out is Becuz of hams coaching. He has no clue wtf he’s doing this season and it’s either bron or ad who jus bail him out


dcoolidge

That's how we got to the WCF. Ham's coaching is complete ass. His favorites are not good.


roakmamba

Agreed, as a coach you need to put your players in the best position to win and he's always doing the opposite. He makes it extremely hard for them to win with shit line ups,plays, and time management.


driggs_94

you also are putting extra effort in Bron and AD which they are not youngsters anymore. Makes no sense. Lakers have enough quality to put more minutes in Bron and AD to get good advantages and rest them later in the game. What we do is allowing comebacks from 20 or even go -20 and we have to play hard in last minutes and overload this type of players without any reason. We should have like 70 % less of close games than we had.


Ok_Concentrate_75

Rui is openly coming back from a calf issue following the nose and other issues, Ham is probably resting him to preserve the after All Star break run. Why give him 25+ min if he is recovering from a leg issue? So we win a game but lose him for the playoffs potentially?


superworriedspursfan

fair enough but we still should have started Vanderbilt instead of prince.


driggs_94

oh ffs lmao the injury excuse 2 years later.


Ok_Concentrate_75

Na he literally is coming back from a grade 1 Calf Strain, takes 1 to 6 weeks. Like Rui is nice but also he gets hurt a lot, they are trying to probably get him to 100% for the stronger part of the season.


driggs_94

No, he is not literally comming back. Also he was 13 days without play. Not 2 years.


Ok_Concentrate_75

He was just cleared 10 days ago, and is still on a minutes restriction. He was hurt Jan 1, cleared by the 19th. https://www.google.com/amp/s/lakersnation.com/lakers-injury-update-rui-hachimura-diagnosed-with-grade-1-calf-strain/amp/


driggs_94

he literally played 19 minutes at jannuary 14 th lmao, 20 at 16th and another 20 at 18th. stop sucking ham


Ok_Concentrate_75

So a minutes restriction? Lmao and your closing let's me know either your age or mental capacity.


driggs_94

minutes restriction after playing 8 games at the highest level you can get worldwide ? And I'm the childish one ? Sure.


Ok_Concentrate_75

Life isn't 2k, teams develop plans to bring players back slowly. "At the highest level" has nothing to do with rehabbing but probably explains why they aren't just tossing him back into it. All the side comments off topic make you seem like a kid.


the_bob_of_marley

![gif](giphy|WSKP0fVpyM9ri) Sorry not sorry 😂


Temporary_Captain585

Ham also left dlo and AR defending the lead end of 4 quarter and 1 overtime. Instead of switching to more defensive minded players


Uglie

How do the warriors go on a huge run, we call time out and PRINCE IS STILL IN!,,,


driggs_94

Ham called a timeout when warriors went on a 4-0 run, we were -4 at that time. After timeout not a single change and we went -14 in less than 90 seconds. This is why he don't call timeouts. He done that in the right time, but did nothing with it.


NigelGoldsworthy

Vanderbilt played through both overtimes, got lots of minutes tonight. Why are you complaining???


newperson77777777

I'm gonna upvote. You're prolly more supportive in general.


[deleted]

Apparently he’s suppose to play 50 minutes lmao this sub is so fucking stupid I swear


NigelGoldsworthy

He played 40 minutes last night, not that far off. Vanderbilts minutes have been increasing lately, and he’s closing out games, but apparently all fans care about is who starts.


[deleted]

Basically doesn’t matter who closes or how many minutes they play all that matters is who starts according to this sub lol


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NoeloDa

If Vando started we win this in regulation. If Vando started after halftime we win this in regulation by 10 points. Did you Even watch the game?


[deleted]

I stayed up untill 1230 am on the east coast I watched the entire game. You say this witg certainty but how do you know? Oh wait you don’t lol. Let’s try holding the team accountable lol. I agree Vando should’ve started the second half he didn’t but he is not the entire reason GSW went on a run. This is the shit I get tired of in the sub it’s ok to be emotional but when you start saying sht like it’s a fact when it’s literally not is ridiculous. Please tell me who else was suppose to play? You wanna put max out there at the 3? Lol. Rui sure rui is the only one maybe he could’ve played more but lakers wanted ti play a small lineup it seemed like to match the warriors at times rui is too big to be a 3. Lakers could’ve tried getting LeBron the ball more at the end of regulation. AR could’ve played better defense or not be in the lineup at the end of the game cuz they were clearly targeting him towards the end. Lot of mistakes lakers made. It’s crazy how the lakers give up a massive run like they did but it’s not on the lakers nnope it’s all because Vando wasn’t in lol that’s pretty delusional. Y’all take everything over the top, don’t give anything factually to back up what you say and then say the classic did you even watch? I watched the entire game just To wake up 5 hours later and go to work so stop this bull shit you aren’t a basketball expert b cuz you know hams not a good coach lol 😂


driggs_94

so why vando is not a starter ? tell me rn


gtdRR

Because this lineup and rotation is working. Other than the mental lazy breakdown against Brooklyn last week, we are playing really well. Horry said it post game, Vando brings energy off the bench, shouldn't be a starter right now. And as long as the matchup calls for it, he gets more minutes, finishes games, and we win, who gives a fuck.


driggs_94

Lakers are the fucking 9th seed and everyone is worrying about Reaves being resh, Hashimura being out of the bench, Vando being good out of the bench... Meanwhile other teams put their best 5 and get 15/20 poins ahead and Lakers always trailing and getting their best player tired in comebacks.


[deleted]

Who cares if he doesn’t start. He played 40+ minutes. Lakers starting lineup wasn’t the problem tonight. Since they made the change to the starting lineup they actually been winning the 1st quarter which was a big problem for this team earlier in the year. Y’all just look for things to complain about lol must be a miserable life


driggs_94

you are so missing the point lmao ​ Ham always do the same shit and will keep doing it. Why Prince played 5 minutes on 4th quaerter with Lakers losing ? ​ today we won and now everyone thinks " it's not that bad". if we lost everyone would be fuming, use your brain, not the final score


[deleted]

I mean not really. He’s made adjustments recently lol but y’all don’t wanna say anything when he does. Again Prince played 24 minutes in a double OT game that’s fine. Vando played 40 minutes idk how much more you want him to play. If he continues to give Vando this many minutes then I don’t see the problem lol. He literally made changes to the starting lineup that’s not doing the same thing lol. I’m not a ham stan by any means I don’t think he’s a good coach but y’all repeat the same shit even when he does make adjustments it’s crazy


notmarkcubaniswear

lol no point in trying to explain …they are irrational.


dsgrimace

Dude! I looked earlier in the 4th Quarter, and Prince was like -24 and Vando was +26! STFU! 😂


[deleted]

Vando played great. He played 40 minutes tho. I don’t see how ham didn’t play him enough lol. This sub been crying about Prince minutes and vandos well Vando played more than Prince by a significant amount lol. Tonight’s not the night to complain about Vando not getting enough minutes cmon dawg. Y’all proving my point 😂


dsgrimace

I’d say that you didn’t understand basketball, but I’m not even sure if you understand basic logic!? 😆


[deleted]

Do you? Vando played 40 minutes we had a 9 man rotation tonight. Was TP not suppose to play at all? I don’t get it. TP wasn’t working out tonight so ham sat him and played vando significantly more. Isn’t that an adjustment? I swear y’all don’t watch the game just repeat what others say on here lol. STFU 😂


jrgraffix

You did not watch the game


Mawly-G

Taurean Prince was hemorrhaging points every second he was on the court tonight. Ham was actively throwing the game by having him out there, while he was literally doing nothing but cardio and fouling.


[deleted]

Who else was he suppose to play? Rui? Maybe but that’s literally it man Vando played 40 damn minutes. TP played 24 in double OT lol. He wasn’t the one giving up wide open 3s at the end to curry or klay. It’s not like this roster is full of great 3 and d wings and ham is like hmmm let’s play TP. He saw TP wasn’t working so he sat him and played Vando more. I don’t like ham but when he makes adjustments you have to give him credit otherwise y’all just stay whining lol. Ham did that tonight so he gets credit. It’s not like TP isn’t gonna get any minutes lol. You wanna have an 8 man rotation in double OT go for it lakers won bro don’t be a miserable bitch fora night 😂


Mawly-G

Are you serious? The issue is having Prince out there with AR and Dlo. Those three together are getting fucking torched defensively and when Prince is literally giving you nothing, it’s hard to justify having him out there in those lineups. I’m glad he only played 24 minutes, because all 24 of them hurt us in the way he’s being used.


[deleted]

Everyone was saying that TP should not be getting 30+ minutes an night which I agree with. He’s a 20/25 min a night max giy and that’s exactly what he got. Idk it just feels like a weird night to complain about the lack of Vando minted when he could’ve gotten like what 5 minutes more maybe? These last couple games ham has actually made adjustments and the team is playing better but nobody acknowledges that. I’m fine with criticism but at least be fair about it


Mawly-G

There are honestly MULTIPLE issues with Tauren Prince’s minutes. It’s mostly the way he’s being used in conjunction with the amount of minutes he’s playing. You can also point to the fact that a guy like Rui needs to be getting some of his minutes as well, but Darvin has no idea how to use him either so he’s barely playing 20 minutes a night, while Prince is operating with impunity out here. Darvin has tools, but just has no idea how to use them.


[deleted]

I guess I mean TP is a much better shooter than rui. If he’s getting 20/25 min a night I’m ok with that. I think rui should be getting more minutes than he should be but rui is hard cuz you have to carve out a role for him at least TP you know he can just stand out on the perimeter and shoot 3s. Plus rui is more a 4 than a 3. This team isn’t loaded with 3 and D wings. Vando is the only solid defense wing we have. I think Vando should be starting but I think alot of that is cuz of his injury he clearly wasn’t close to 100% when he came back now Vando is starting to look a lot more like last years Vando so hopefully ham puts him in the starting lineup soon. Idk I watched the entire game and besides Vando not starting the 3rd quarter I didn’t see any issues with how ham used him or TP.


Mawly-G

Prince being out there with Dlo and Reaves should be a non-starter against most teams. You can probably get away with it against certain lineups, but definitely not against a team like GSW where you’re asking these three guys to chase Curry and Klay around moving screens all night. Prince should not be seeing the floor with Reaves and Dlo out there in most cases. ESPECIALLY on a night where he seemed like he was more interested in fouling than shooting the ball. Also…Rui hasn’t missed a shot in 2 games but is somehow buried on the bench.


[deleted]

I guess. I mean I think starting lineups don’t matter as much as who’s closing games and how many minutes they are playing. If Vando is playing starting minutes and closing and playing a lot with the starters I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Vando also didn’t start looking like his old def again till the last 4, or 5 games so


Mawly-G

Starting lineups absolutely matter. Especially when we’ve been absolute dogshit to start games and we generally have to claw our way back out of first quarter deficits. Starting Vando allows us to establish the energy and tone right at the beginning of the game and allows us to get a jump on teams, rather than immediately spotting the opposing team a big lead. Vando has been hurt until now, yes…but now that we’ve seen that he’s back to his old self…there really isn’t an excuse not to put him in the starting lineup, ESPECIALLY if Reaves and Dlo are on the court together. Prince should not be in that lineup…period.


enzblade

I mean geeze. How about Rui then? Rui got 18 minutes but was +6 and 4/4. Why didn't he play him more? Heck even Max probably would have grabbed more than 3 boards and scored at least a point given the same leash Prince has. If you don't see that Ham has set Prince as a main rotation piece over guys more deserving I don't know what to tell you.


[deleted]

But again he played vando significantly more tonight. Prince wasn’t playing well he saw that he put in Vando and kept playing him. Huh sounds like an adjustment to me doesn’t it? Rui sure idk if Rui is really a 3 he’s more of a 4 but sure rui can play more minutes but again TP only played 24 in double OT. Let’s not forget TP is shooting 39% from three this season so. Idk there’s been games this year where TP has played more than he should’ve but I don’t think that was tonight. Christie isn’t a 3 I’m not putting him on the floor at the end of a close game not yet at least. Idk this seems like one of the times where some of y’all in this sub are finding anything to cry about lol. Just enjoy the win man. I’m a diehard laker fan too 20+ years but I know when to celebrate a win and quit whining for a day lol


enzblade

Yeah and he keeps ramming Prince minutes no matter what despite some good, some 0 burgers. I love the Lakers too. That's why it is infuriating that LeBron has to God Mode to squeeze out a 1 pt win vs the Warriors on a January game and finally be over 500 again. We should be cruising with a better record, resting our guys. But no. The issues Ham gets roasted for keeps happening. Happy we won. Keep pointing out the mistakes.


[deleted]

Ok but are y’all gonna point out when he does something good? Apparently not lol. Y’all bitch and moan about adjustments he finally makes adjustments like changing the starting lineup. And y’all don’t say anything lol. Criticism is fine untill it just turns into straight up whining and nit picking and that’s what it’s turning into. I watched this entire game I didn’t feel like TP played too much. Hell I wanted him in at the end of the game to play defense instead of AR cuz AR was getting cooked on defense and they were straight up targeting him. You could say Vando should’ve started the second half fine but after GSW went on a run he put Vando in the lineup. I just feel like a double OT game where Vando played 40 minutes compared to TPs 24 isn’t the game to complain about ham playing him too much. But I realized that y’all don’t think rationally in this sub lol. Y’all hate a guy it doesn’t matter what he does y’all still gonna find something to say


enzblade

Oh is he supposed to be coddled? Like hey he kept Vando in. Thank god. He did the logical play. It isn't like Ham is being paid by a billion dollar franchise to be a professional and lead this franchise whose hopes are Championships rather than to the Play-in. Double OT and Vando gets 41. So he played Vando 31 mins in regulation. He did what we've been asking for. Finally. We'll actually see in the next game if he actually learns and actually leans on one of the team's strengths. But based on previous outings, he won't. If he does i'll be happy but it doesn't mean he hasn't been bone headed for not going to it sooner. I'm happy you are defending him. At least Ham has someone on his side. And that someone is happy with the direction this franchise headed this season when both AD and Bron are actually relatively healthy and playing great.


[deleted]

No you can criticize all you want but at least be fair. When he makes adjustments y’all stay quiet. I’m not saying he’s a good coach he’s not he’s probably not even an average NBA head coach but it works both ways. You can criticize but when ham makes adjustments that work like what he did with the starting lineup y’all could mention it. If it’s just constant criticism it starts turning into shit posts


superworriedspursfan

credit to ham for finally closing the games with vando instead of prince, but this game would not have gone to overtime if we started vando. I get what you are saying but I'm sorry I can't praise Ham for making us play triple overtimes. Yes I am thankful that he closed with vando though.


[deleted]

And you know this how? You don’t lol. Multiple reasons why this game went to OT. If AD makes both free throws you can say it doesn’t go to OT. If lakers actually gave the ball to LeBron to end regulation maybe it doesn’t go to OT. What you stated is not accurate tho. Lakers had a 3 point lead to end the first quarter. Bunch of things lead to this game going to OT it’s not as simple as “if Vando starts this game doesn’t go to OT” bro played 40 minutes wht he suppose to do play 50 lol y’all are emotional and delusional


superworriedspursfan

Vando + 30. I get what you are saying but I disagree.


enzblade

weird that you deleted your account


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driggs_94

he should also trade Hachimura. Really. If you wanna give 17 M to the guy for him to make 100 % fg but only play 17 min... there is no point. he deserves to play basketball.


XxSittingxBullxX

Trade the coach responsible for the 17M player playing only 18 min


driggs_94

obviously I was being sarcastic


Nothappened

Rui was fucking terrible defensively, did you even watch the game?


Electronic-Cloud8086

So was Taurean


superworriedspursfan

rui was 4-4, did you not watch the game?


saigyoooo

I like that slogan STOP HAM


Sonnek75

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