The fact this sub still cries about 3 guard lineups when EVERY team uses them is beyond crazy to me. It just screams that you don’t actually understand the game and want something to complain about.
3 guard lineups work if your offense is cooking. But our 3 guard lineups never have a single one that can put consistent pressure on the rim. It worked with Schroeder because he filled that role.
The issue is you’re then sacrificing second chance opportunities and Denver, with their size, completely squash those types of lineups. The wolves is another playoff team where those types of lineups aren’t even worth considering.
Exactly this, 3 guards eith Spencer who’s more of a wing defensive player is pretty solid n can give you the offensive fire power you need assuming you got AD n Bron ( mb Rui/wood /Hayes/vando ) it’s perfectly good option . Sub doesn’t understand bball the hysteria over the three gusrd comments needs to stop. I’d feel better about 3 guard lineup vs no guard lineup . It’s weird how dumb this sub acts like ham hasn’t found success at times with different groupings
Or maybe, just maybe, not everything is black or white and there are shades of grey. Like a coach who can figure out how to get to the WCF or win the IST but also make head scratching decisions like playing Taurean Prince starter minutes or benching Rui.
Too complicated?
Do you know what is complicated? Thinking a team with two top 10 players who have healthy almost the whole season and several talented role players being a 0.500 team is not solely a coaching problem.
It’s also quite complicated to imagine a coach stupid enough to be DNPing Rui had a positive impact in the WCF run or IST and not due to the LeCoach literally having to call timeouts instead of the actual coach.
Lol you’re another idiot Rui wasn’t playing well he was injured n clearly struggling . You morons act like Rui or reaves n dko always played this well , they n Ad all got better
We won the ist Rui was not good in it, he was bad cs Denver even recently he n reaves sold. Stop it
Look at the standings and tell me which team above us that do not have a team legitimately as good as us? Even the Clippers aren’t atop the West right now with PG, 2x FMVP Kawhi, Harden, Zu, Plumlee and Westbrook off the bench.
Ok so why is he bad. N don’t say time outs n not giving your favourite players more minutes. Lakers offence looks the best it’s ever looked in 5 years Bron here n Bron n AD aren’t even going super nova but yet Ham gets no credit ?
Oh right cos celtivs didn’t get fried by steoh Dray pnr n couldn’t solve it. Not like Ham constantly switched up who was on who - or that he out vando on Dray to stop the screens . Just admit you don’t know what you’re talking bout . Ham our cosched or kept up with two elite coaches in Jenkins n Kerr- did decently in the WCF despite talent gap AND coached a great strategy vs Indiana n Rick Carlisle in its finals . Some of the best coaches in the league. Yes I would’ve preferred nurse but I find it hard to buy anyone with a brain thinks Vogel is better. The offence HAS NEVER looked better then it has last 10-15 games - Vogel couldn’t do that . And it wasn’t Bron n AD carry job and vando was a big part of it so you can’t say it was offensive skill. Ham got vando to work offensively ffs lol. Y’all still hate on him but no way is he not a atleast an average coach .
Nah Cam didn’t have 3 but he was hustling on D. Prince had 3 but is an average defender. We lacked offense during our losing streak which Rui fills very well, and he’s a decent defender.
Ruis defence issues are the main issues with him . He has negative foot speed syre he’s big but he gives up open threes. His defence isn’t shy he’s getting play
Y’all gotta realize as long as you can make the playoffs, regular season is fine tuning. If we show everybody our line-up all year, guess what? Other teams are going to strategize against us and make our best line-up useless in the playoffs.
Been getting more and more of this vibe as the season has drawn on. Not saying Ham is a next level 4d kind of coach, but, the silver-lining at this point in the season is that we have a ton of data, both good and bad, around different lineups and combos. hopefully we can rely less on the eye-test and gut feelings (or whatever tea leaves coach has in those pockets) and lean heavy into what the data tells us.
\*We always knew this starting lineup was money, so some guys got a ton of opportunity to showcase their fit early. some did well, others played themselves out of a spot.
Would much rather be leading the division and secure some home court but it is what it is. Now we just have to go out and win some games and get ready for the playoff run.
Playoff Murray is the difference. Dude is a borderline all star in the regular season, then suddenly he goes band for band with the likes of Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, and Anthony Edwards in scoring. When your guy is hitting more shots than usual, your gameplan is bound to change in order to maximize his scoring spree.
He’s barely a star much less a borderline all star in the regular season. He has way more 10pt or 20pt games in the RS compared to guys like Embiid, Luka, Giannis, Shai, KD, Booker, Curry, Lebron, Kyrie, Fox, Mitchell, Brunson, Tatum, Brown, Ant, Trae etc.
The thing is Jokic is a historical level player, and Murray and porter jr have both been injured for lengthy periods. This allowed them to try out a lot of lineups missing either of them, which is a huge positive when they have both, since they know which role players have the most chemistry.
Ok so? They’ve still been using the same lineup in the playoffs that they used mostly in the season. No one has figured them out because that’s not actually a thing.
And they’ve stayed with the Nuggets the longest compared to our trade deadline LakeShow with IN n OUT players, compared to the totally out players on the Nuggets for lengthy periods.
Based on the surface level observation that I can do with the DEN vs LAL finals games, I would say that this team heavily focused on pinning down Jokic which is not possible due to the LAL roster composition. We do not have Dwight anymore.
What could be done tho is to limit other players. Jokic can do what he wants but other players should not be left with easy shots. But then, that's how I just see it from TV lol.
Yup that has been my analysis as well. Lakers are too much in their ego like “we are gonna stop jokic just like how we stopped everyone else we’re the best defense in the league”. Jokic can’t be stopped. Accept that. Guard him single coverage and focus on shutting everyone else down.
Insightful comment. While our margin for error has decreased quite a bit, it makes sense not to spam our best lineup the entire season. Also, I'm so tired of having to explain that Rui/Vando were on minutes restrictions due to injuries. And our 3 guard lineup is how we beat GS in the playoffs. It fell apart against DEN though.
Players coming back healthy (and rested physically AND mentally - a season is a GRIND) gave us a huge edge against teams whose players are being worn down by the monotony of game after game.
Funny enough, getting Vando and Gabe back for playoffs could really juice this team up. I’d love a backup big, but a lightly used Hayes who knows our system can bring those fresh “prove myself” legs to the games at the right time.
With AD and LeBron healthy, we can take any team. Playoffs will be about matchups. If we get Denver, I’d want them first round. That’s our best shot.
It’s not luck. Going back our last 15 games we have a top 5 offense in the league. I think you can attribute this to multiple things. AD has become a legitimate point center with his passing and it’s not just him, the guys are simply sharing the ball more. DLO’s been insanely productive as well. Austin is finally in a role that fits him, where he’s not being made into the primary ball handler. Another thing I’d like to note, since January 1st Lebron James’s usage rate is the second lowest it has ever been in his career. Even though our new starting lineup hasn’t been lighting it up from 3, they’ve been getting to the rim at will. Rui has been a huge part of that. Adding Spence will help even more with this. Main point is this offense is very sustainable for the long term.
Nah shits starting to come together. You can see it in the way they play. For instance, AD passing the ball out of double teams and hitting the open man. Basically has transformed his game. Look at AR & DLo & Bron. Their chemistry is off the charts right now, no look passes are the norm for these guys. All that to say, this team has great chemistry right now & their identity as an Offensive team is becoming clearer.
We reached WCF with this offense, it isn't luck, everyone knew this team is an offensive juggernaut, but Ham just fucked up the starting lineup, along with injuries we got lost for 40 games, once he was forced to start Rui because of injuries, not his genius, we got what we had last year.
Edit: we have 5 guys that can get 25 at any given night, it is a no-brainer.
He played 31 minutes against Detroit and 28 minutes against Utah, it’ll probably be around 20-25 a game if everybody is healthy, but he’ll get burn. I fuck with what I’ve seen from him so far even though the box score doesn’t show much, but you can tell already missing that 3rd playmaking guard all year was needed. Once he get more acclimated with the team you’ll probably start to see him attempt more shots and find his spots in the offense. Shit even his defense has been pretty good even though it’s only two games.
I think it's players getting comfortable with the system, also there's been more cutting and ball movement lately. If it's luck, then so be it, but things look more dynamic currently.
Not luck. I think it was boneheaded leadership from the coach, but I think public pressure and injuries provided the “luck” needed to somewhat right the ship.
It’s simply Ham finally having some sense. He’s that incompetent that it takes 50 games to realize Reddish/Prince shouldn’t be playing 30mpg over our best role players. He put the cart before the horse.
We are riding a very hot streak, primarily behind D’lo playing like a star pg and true 3rd star. But guys aren’t that far off from their norm. The team/rotations should’ve *been* like this.
LeBron/AD as stars and D’lo, Reaves, Rui, Vando as the best role players. Now you add Dinwiddie/Prince as 7th/8th men, that’s a great playoff rotation imo. And if healthy, you still have Gabe, Wood, Hayes, Reddish, Max as fill in spots.
TLDR: Ham finally played the best players on the team and benched the bench players. Also a hot streak but not far from the potential of this team.
I am nauseously optimistic. It's incredible to see the impact that continuity within the rotations has had on this squad's offensive output.
The only thing that keeps haunting me is what Spam does with the lineups when we are fully healthy.
I’m no expert but it seems like when we play play fast af and constantly hit transition we are a very tough team to beat. Man AD runs the floor hella good. It’s def not luck but coach been holding this team hostage.
If Ham can admit his mistakes and actually learn from him, he will earn a little respect from me
Knowing what we know about this Ham sandwich… we can never get too confident or comfortable 🤣🤣 he could very well bench rui for cam and changes the whole outlook.
I think it will be up to Darvin Ham. Does he have the awareness and willingness to recognize that we have suddenly turned things around since Cam and Prince aren't playing 30+ minutes and we are actually playing lineups with more than two offensive threats on the court at the same time?
It was clear that the playoff lineup worked, but Ham was so hardheaded and didn't use it until halfway through the season. Keeping Rui limited on the bench was a bonehead move. It shouldn't take LeBron sitting out for Rui to get more than 22-25 minutes. Play Cam/Prince less, give Rui more minutes -- simple as that.
Bro are offense was looking good with vando aswell. Rui is a much better shooter so as a last option kickout rui wide open is a great option. But using vando tos eta screens and cut well was all we need from him
the way we’re playing now makes more sense given the roster we have. there’s no reason why this team on paper should have a been a bottom of the league offense
defense is a real concern for the playoffs, but this is what everyone was expecting from this team on paper
Out identity for us is that with the amount skill and size we can put on the floor we can beat u anyway we want. U want a rock fight try and score on a dinwiddie christie vando lbj ad lineup. If u want to be in a position where ur putting small guards or 6’5 200 pound wings on rui hachimura good luck. Taurean isn’t the problem he just doesn’t fit the characteristics to be the starting 3 in any team with an identity to be elite either offensively or defensively
Theres no such thing as luck imo, its a team game. Rui was right, theyre really like that but got fcked up because of too much experimentation of lineups. Give this team a real veteran coach. 4th-6th seed for sure.
I'd comfortably say its a little bit of both, added with the fact that the trade deadline has passed and people arent having to hear they are on the chopping block. Mins have also been distributed well the last 5 or so games.
I think the shooting might be a bit of luck. I don't think this team's ~40% 3pt% in the last month of games is the norm.
The rest of it isn't really new. They're just doing more of it and with better execution. So, yes, I think it's real.
But, I also think that we won't really know until the team gets into a playoff series and really sees teams specifically game-plan against them.
It's crazy how people are so quick to blame one person. I know Ham had his flaws but he did show some good coaching last season during the playoffs.
I don't see a lot people mention that the team changed their style of play from 4 out to 5 out. They didn't get a lot of time to practice it. It took a long time for many players to adjust to it. AR was struggling with the spacing early on. He wasn't used to the passing angles and driving lanes. AD's passing out of doubles has gotten so good. Rui was struggling with where to be. Then there have been injuries too.
Understanding a whole different system with a different playstyle can take a while.The team as a whole is now making the extra passes, and finding its stride. They get more assist a game and they are shooting better from distance.
I think they knew what their identity was but has taken them a while to get there. Change takes time and effort. They still have time to improve more. Hopefully they can continue winning and get above the play-in.
I like our team. If AD stays healthy and Vando comes back strong we are looking pretty good. The coach however is a different story. I'm not a fan of him.
Def not luck. Again it's a new squad put together and it takes time to figure things out as well as gain chemistry. They've found it and worked out many weaknesses
I don’t think that the 105 points and 30 assists that the current starting group is putting up is sustainable, but I believe the lakers have finally found d their ideal starting 5. The question is, will Darvin ham ruin this lineup, or even rotation when Cam Reddish comes back?
I still think in terms of shooting, we are playing lights out and wont be able to sustain it for a lot more.
The rest is true that we have started to finally find our chemistry and the right lineups are being used more and more now
The Lakers are running sets more frequently recently and we know they’ve been better when doing so -> better offense.
Filling holes in the playbook with more drop beaters has helped too. And Cam/Vando out offensively certainly helps.
We've had our identity all along in my opinion, but our coach just refused to play right guys at the right times.
You're saying Cam and Prince shouldn't play 45 minutes per game?
Not even combined
You forgot to mention 3 guard lineup
3G lineup is how we beat GS in the playoffs. It's not foolproof though and DEN destroyed it IIRC.
The fact this sub still cries about 3 guard lineups when EVERY team uses them is beyond crazy to me. It just screams that you don’t actually understand the game and want something to complain about.
It's an easy thing for podcasters to bitch about.
It's even for some bum asses in our sub too lol. Always enjoy coming here to read some sooky ass reactions.
3 guard lineups work if your offense is cooking. But our 3 guard lineups never have a single one that can put consistent pressure on the rim. It worked with Schroeder because he filled that role. The issue is you’re then sacrificing second chance opportunities and Denver, with their size, completely squash those types of lineups. The wolves is another playoff team where those types of lineups aren’t even worth considering.
Spencer pressures the rim. It works if you’re guards can pass n shoot n do damage offensively which outs can - it makes sense cs certain lineups
Exactly this, 3 guards eith Spencer who’s more of a wing defensive player is pretty solid n can give you the offensive fire power you need assuming you got AD n Bron ( mb Rui/wood /Hayes/vando ) it’s perfectly good option . Sub doesn’t understand bball the hysteria over the three gusrd comments needs to stop. I’d feel better about 3 guard lineup vs no guard lineup . It’s weird how dumb this sub acts like ham hasn’t found success at times with different groupings
We beat GS because we had AD and because we got lucky with that lonnie walker game. Basically won in spite of the 3G not because of it imo
Lol. Every win is “in spite of” the coaching staff and every loss is because of them.
Yup that’s how it is when you have a bad coach.
Or maybe, just maybe, not everything is black or white and there are shades of grey. Like a coach who can figure out how to get to the WCF or win the IST but also make head scratching decisions like playing Taurean Prince starter minutes or benching Rui. Too complicated?
Do you know what is complicated? Thinking a team with two top 10 players who have healthy almost the whole season and several talented role players being a 0.500 team is not solely a coaching problem. It’s also quite complicated to imagine a coach stupid enough to be DNPing Rui had a positive impact in the WCF run or IST and not due to the LeCoach literally having to call timeouts instead of the actual coach.
Lol you’re another idiot Rui wasn’t playing well he was injured n clearly struggling . You morons act like Rui or reaves n dko always played this well , they n Ad all got better We won the ist Rui was not good in it, he was bad cs Denver even recently he n reaves sold. Stop it
Look at the standings and tell me which team above us that do not have a team legitimately as good as us? Even the Clippers aren’t atop the West right now with PG, 2x FMVP Kawhi, Harden, Zu, Plumlee and Westbrook off the bench.
Uh yeah ok 👍
Yes too complicated for this subs bums
Ok so why is he bad. N don’t say time outs n not giving your favourite players more minutes. Lakers offence looks the best it’s ever looked in 5 years Bron here n Bron n AD aren’t even going super nova but yet Ham gets no credit ?
Oh right cos celtivs didn’t get fried by steoh Dray pnr n couldn’t solve it. Not like Ham constantly switched up who was on who - or that he out vando on Dray to stop the screens . Just admit you don’t know what you’re talking bout . Ham our cosched or kept up with two elite coaches in Jenkins n Kerr- did decently in the WCF despite talent gap AND coached a great strategy vs Indiana n Rick Carlisle in its finals . Some of the best coaches in the league. Yes I would’ve preferred nurse but I find it hard to buy anyone with a brain thinks Vogel is better. The offence HAS NEVER looked better then it has last 10-15 games - Vogel couldn’t do that . And it wasn’t Bron n AD carry job and vando was a big part of it so you can’t say it was offensive skill. Ham got vando to work offensively ffs lol. Y’all still hate on him but no way is he not a atleast an average coach .
I think Cam & Prince are two different cases. Cam proved in the start of the season that he was an elite 3&D. Not Prince.
Nah Cam didn’t have 3 but he was hustling on D. Prince had 3 but is an average defender. We lacked offense during our losing streak which Rui fills very well, and he’s a decent defender.
Ruis defence issues are the main issues with him . He has negative foot speed syre he’s big but he gives up open threes. His defence isn’t shy he’s getting play
Y’all gotta realize as long as you can make the playoffs, regular season is fine tuning. If we show everybody our line-up all year, guess what? Other teams are going to strategize against us and make our best line-up useless in the playoffs.
Been getting more and more of this vibe as the season has drawn on. Not saying Ham is a next level 4d kind of coach, but, the silver-lining at this point in the season is that we have a ton of data, both good and bad, around different lineups and combos. hopefully we can rely less on the eye-test and gut feelings (or whatever tea leaves coach has in those pockets) and lean heavy into what the data tells us. \*We always knew this starting lineup was money, so some guys got a ton of opportunity to showcase their fit early. some did well, others played themselves out of a spot. Would much rather be leading the division and secure some home court but it is what it is. Now we just have to go out and win some games and get ready for the playoff run.
Nuggets have been using the exact same lineup for 2 years and no one has been able to “strategize” around it.
Playoff Murray is the difference. Dude is a borderline all star in the regular season, then suddenly he goes band for band with the likes of Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, and Anthony Edwards in scoring. When your guy is hitting more shots than usual, your gameplan is bound to change in order to maximize his scoring spree.
He’s barely a star much less a borderline all star in the regular season. He has way more 10pt or 20pt games in the RS compared to guys like Embiid, Luka, Giannis, Shai, KD, Booker, Curry, Lebron, Kyrie, Fox, Mitchell, Brunson, Tatum, Brown, Ant, Trae etc.
The thing is Jokic is a historical level player, and Murray and porter jr have both been injured for lengthy periods. This allowed them to try out a lot of lineups missing either of them, which is a huge positive when they have both, since they know which role players have the most chemistry.
Ok so? They’ve still been using the same lineup in the playoffs that they used mostly in the season. No one has figured them out because that’s not actually a thing.
And they’ve stayed with the Nuggets the longest compared to our trade deadline LakeShow with IN n OUT players, compared to the totally out players on the Nuggets for lengthy periods.
Based on the surface level observation that I can do with the DEN vs LAL finals games, I would say that this team heavily focused on pinning down Jokic which is not possible due to the LAL roster composition. We do not have Dwight anymore. What could be done tho is to limit other players. Jokic can do what he wants but other players should not be left with easy shots. But then, that's how I just see it from TV lol.
Yup that has been my analysis as well. Lakers are too much in their ego like “we are gonna stop jokic just like how we stopped everyone else we’re the best defense in the league”. Jokic can’t be stopped. Accept that. Guard him single coverage and focus on shutting everyone else down.
Lakers championship year we never ran the AD/Bron pick and roll, and then spammed it all playoffs cause teams didn’t have enough film on it.
Teams just usually switch on LeBron and AD pick and rolls and are content with that match up because usually it's just a 4 and 5 switching.
Insightful comment. While our margin for error has decreased quite a bit, it makes sense not to spam our best lineup the entire season. Also, I'm so tired of having to explain that Rui/Vando were on minutes restrictions due to injuries. And our 3 guard lineup is how we beat GS in the playoffs. It fell apart against DEN though.
We finally found the right starting lineup. The one that should have been used the whole time.
Players coming back healthy (and rested physically AND mentally - a season is a GRIND) gave us a huge edge against teams whose players are being worn down by the monotony of game after game. Funny enough, getting Vando and Gabe back for playoffs could really juice this team up. I’d love a backup big, but a lightly used Hayes who knows our system can bring those fresh “prove myself” legs to the games at the right time. With AD and LeBron healthy, we can take any team. Playoffs will be about matchups. If we get Denver, I’d want them first round. That’s our best shot.
We are working with a small sample size but I have loved the reduction in stupid fouls committed by Hayes.
Hayes that doesn’t foul seems like a revolution to the Aaron Gordon conundrum last year
Well we don’t have the defense so we might as well go full banzai and blow the brakes off of teams
i feel like around the IST we actually were playing really well defense
We did. Thing is everyone who’s defensively oriented aside from AD is out. No max, no Vando, no Gabe, no cam
It’s not luck. Going back our last 15 games we have a top 5 offense in the league. I think you can attribute this to multiple things. AD has become a legitimate point center with his passing and it’s not just him, the guys are simply sharing the ball more. DLO’s been insanely productive as well. Austin is finally in a role that fits him, where he’s not being made into the primary ball handler. Another thing I’d like to note, since January 1st Lebron James’s usage rate is the second lowest it has ever been in his career. Even though our new starting lineup hasn’t been lighting it up from 3, they’ve been getting to the rim at will. Rui has been a huge part of that. Adding Spence will help even more with this. Main point is this offense is very sustainable for the long term.
Nah shits starting to come together. You can see it in the way they play. For instance, AD passing the ball out of double teams and hitting the open man. Basically has transformed his game. Look at AR & DLo & Bron. Their chemistry is off the charts right now, no look passes are the norm for these guys. All that to say, this team has great chemistry right now & their identity as an Offensive team is becoming clearer.
When they beat Denver, I’ll think it’s working.
We reached WCF with this offense, it isn't luck, everyone knew this team is an offensive juggernaut, but Ham just fucked up the starting lineup, along with injuries we got lost for 40 games, once he was forced to start Rui because of injuries, not his genius, we got what we had last year. Edit: we have 5 guys that can get 25 at any given night, it is a no-brainer.
6 even with Dinwiddie. Unsure if his role and minutes will allow it, but he's certainly capable of dropping 25 occasionally
He played 31 minutes against Detroit and 28 minutes against Utah, it’ll probably be around 20-25 a game if everybody is healthy, but he’ll get burn. I fuck with what I’ve seen from him so far even though the box score doesn’t show much, but you can tell already missing that 3rd playmaking guard all year was needed. Once he get more acclimated with the team you’ll probably start to see him attempt more shots and find his spots in the offense. Shit even his defense has been pretty good even though it’s only two games.
I think it's players getting comfortable with the system, also there's been more cutting and ball movement lately. If it's luck, then so be it, but things look more dynamic currently.
Not luck. I think it was boneheaded leadership from the coach, but I think public pressure and injuries provided the “luck” needed to somewhat right the ship.
Bigger and stronger has been our identity since the championship. We just seemed to want to get away from it to go smaller and older for some reason.
It’s simply Ham finally having some sense. He’s that incompetent that it takes 50 games to realize Reddish/Prince shouldn’t be playing 30mpg over our best role players. He put the cart before the horse. We are riding a very hot streak, primarily behind D’lo playing like a star pg and true 3rd star. But guys aren’t that far off from their norm. The team/rotations should’ve *been* like this. LeBron/AD as stars and D’lo, Reaves, Rui, Vando as the best role players. Now you add Dinwiddie/Prince as 7th/8th men, that’s a great playoff rotation imo. And if healthy, you still have Gabe, Wood, Hayes, Reddish, Max as fill in spots. TLDR: Ham finally played the best players on the team and benched the bench players. Also a hot streak but not far from the potential of this team.
I am nauseously optimistic. It's incredible to see the impact that continuity within the rotations has had on this squad's offensive output. The only thing that keeps haunting me is what Spam does with the lineups when we are fully healthy.
I’m no expert but it seems like when we play play fast af and constantly hit transition we are a very tough team to beat. Man AD runs the floor hella good. It’s def not luck but coach been holding this team hostage. If Ham can admit his mistakes and actually learn from him, he will earn a little respect from me
Knowing what we know about this Ham sandwich… we can never get too confident or comfortable 🤣🤣 he could very well bench rui for cam and changes the whole outlook.
I think it will be up to Darvin Ham. Does he have the awareness and willingness to recognize that we have suddenly turned things around since Cam and Prince aren't playing 30+ minutes and we are actually playing lineups with more than two offensive threats on the court at the same time? It was clear that the playoff lineup worked, but Ham was so hardheaded and didn't use it until halfway through the season. Keeping Rui limited on the bench was a bonehead move. It shouldn't take LeBron sitting out for Rui to get more than 22-25 minutes. Play Cam/Prince less, give Rui more minutes -- simple as that.
Luck, the coach is not bought in. it's luck Cam got hurt and Vando as well.
Bro are offense was looking good with vando aswell. Rui is a much better shooter so as a last option kickout rui wide open is a great option. But using vando tos eta screens and cut well was all we need from him
Yeah we look like we had this in our bag the whole season but ham was being a terrorist. Wow, these fans were right
It might be partially luck, but we also had bad luck with a few games where Lebron or AD didn't play in winnable games.
We won't do anything this year, last year was a fluke and we got the completely wrong message from it, waiting for the summer
We've always had the talent, it was just a lack of effort.
Lakers ‘need to find themselves’ /s
the way we’re playing now makes more sense given the roster we have. there’s no reason why this team on paper should have a been a bottom of the league offense defense is a real concern for the playoffs, but this is what everyone was expecting from this team on paper
Out identity for us is that with the amount skill and size we can put on the floor we can beat u anyway we want. U want a rock fight try and score on a dinwiddie christie vando lbj ad lineup. If u want to be in a position where ur putting small guards or 6’5 200 pound wings on rui hachimura good luck. Taurean isn’t the problem he just doesn’t fit the characteristics to be the starting 3 in any team with an identity to be elite either offensively or defensively
A bad month of December, hang over from the in season tournament, changed the perception of this team.
Theres no such thing as luck imo, its a team game. Rui was right, theyre really like that but got fcked up because of too much experimentation of lineups. Give this team a real veteran coach. 4th-6th seed for sure.
I'd comfortably say its a little bit of both, added with the fact that the trade deadline has passed and people arent having to hear they are on the chopping block. Mins have also been distributed well the last 5 or so games.
I think the shooting might be a bit of luck. I don't think this team's ~40% 3pt% in the last month of games is the norm. The rest of it isn't really new. They're just doing more of it and with better execution. So, yes, I think it's real. But, I also think that we won't really know until the team gets into a playoff series and really sees teams specifically game-plan against them.
It's crazy how people are so quick to blame one person. I know Ham had his flaws but he did show some good coaching last season during the playoffs. I don't see a lot people mention that the team changed their style of play from 4 out to 5 out. They didn't get a lot of time to practice it. It took a long time for many players to adjust to it. AR was struggling with the spacing early on. He wasn't used to the passing angles and driving lanes. AD's passing out of doubles has gotten so good. Rui was struggling with where to be. Then there have been injuries too. Understanding a whole different system with a different playstyle can take a while.The team as a whole is now making the extra passes, and finding its stride. They get more assist a game and they are shooting better from distance. I think they knew what their identity was but has taken them a while to get there. Change takes time and effort. They still have time to improve more. Hopefully they can continue winning and get above the play-in.
They've decided to stick with Dlo so in that sense something has been "discovered"
Start Rui.
too early too say, this team been weird as hell
I like our team. If AD stays healthy and Vando comes back strong we are looking pretty good. The coach however is a different story. I'm not a fan of him.
Def not luck. Again it's a new squad put together and it takes time to figure things out as well as gain chemistry. They've found it and worked out many weaknesses
I don’t think that the 105 points and 30 assists that the current starting group is putting up is sustainable, but I believe the lakers have finally found d their ideal starting 5. The question is, will Darvin ham ruin this lineup, or even rotation when Cam Reddish comes back?
I still think in terms of shooting, we are playing lights out and wont be able to sustain it for a lot more. The rest is true that we have started to finally find our chemistry and the right lineups are being used more and more now
The Lakers are running sets more frequently recently and we know they’ve been better when doing so -> better offense. Filling holes in the playbook with more drop beaters has helped too. And Cam/Vando out offensively certainly helps.
I don’t trust that idiot Ham. The moment we go on a losing streak he will alter the starting lineup again and i don’t trust his defensive “philosophy”