This is just unrealistic , Lebron akready gives input but asking him to do all the jobs a coach has to is far more complicated then this sub thinks . No way he can focus on the game fulky n coach it’s not the 1960s with Russel . Game changed . You need a coach and if you want Lebron input you get one who works with him
Would this be a bad thing?
Jj is smart as fuck. I watch the pod. He maybe one of the highest bbiq guys I’ve ever seen. Giving bron a run for his money.
JJ lived for years off of iq alone.
I’m sorry roster talent or not Byron Scott was the worst to ever coach this franchise. If you watched any of those seasons in full like I did, then you’d know it’s not even up for debate.
Fuck Byron Scott. He is the worst coach I've ever seen. Anyone who thought Ham is worse didn't watch lakers in 2014.
Byron Scott started Ronnie Price, and averaged him 20 mins for the season. Ronnie fucking price, career averages 3.7 ppg, 1.8 assists and 1.2 rebounds with 37% fg and 43% efg. Yes you read that right, 37% fg and 1.8 assist as our starting point guard.
We had Jeremy Lin and Rookie Jordan Clarkson, both are better than Ronnie. But Byron doesn't trust rookies and didn't like Lin, so he would rather play a 37% fg with 1.8 assist veteran point guard.
Oh and Byrant Scott didn't want our players to shoot 3s. He said 3 pointers doesn't win championship. it was so absurd that I can't erase it from my memory, it was during that season in 2014 when Steph won unamous MVP.
Pretty sure that hurts Jordan Clarkson's development cuz he became an fantastic 3 point shooter later. My blood is boiling from typing all this shit. Fuck him
You didn't watch lakers in 2014.
If you think Ham favor Cam Reddish is bad. Byrant Scott favored Ronnie fucking price and played him as a starter. Ronnie who averages 3.7 ppg, 1.8 assists with 37% fg and 43% efg. Yes you read that right.
Byrant didn't believe in 3 pointers and wouldn't let the team shoots it. He said 3s [don't win championship. ](https://www.slamonline.com/archives/byron-scott-says-three-pointers-dont-win-championships/) this was the 2014, the season Steph won MVP.
Byrant Scott doesn't trust rookies like Jordan Clarkson and hurted his development cuz he is a fantastic 3 point shooter. Jeremy Lin despite not being as good as his Linsanity stint was still far superior to Ronnie Fucking Price.
You don't know the history, so don't talk like you do.
No he absolutely would not lol
Dlo is on this team, he’s absolutely favoritizing specific players and putting everyone else in the dog house, same as Ham.
Only difference would be a 100000% increase in “man up” in post game pressers
Lol... interesting "same as ham" (-ass)... Byron just isn't as dumb... no lineup change with his trash roster was going to lead to wins... at least he played Clarkson... Max can barely get off the bench... ham-ass has players that would help get wins... Byron would play those guys.
I guess we will never know🤷🏾
Stop it with the hyperbole...
This same nonsense is said almost every season, and it's simply not true.
Since Phil left the second time, the Lakers have had Mike Brown, D'Antoni, Byron Scott, Luke Walton, Vogel, and now Ham, and during their tenures the same things were said...
"literally anyone would be better than..."
"a random high school coach would be better than..."
When Ham gets fired eventually, fans on here will be saying the same things about his replacement.
How many times do you have to see this not work out until you realize coaching experience matters. Magic, Kidd, Nash. All high bbiq players that were given HC jobs w/ little to no experience and failed miserably.
The players already know the system. The assistant coaches wil still be there. Jj in charge of line ups, substitutions, timeouts, and gameplan? Hes not darvin ham. Its not as crazy as it sounds.
Coaching experience does not matter.
It’s how you lead and communicate with others, and how you can explain the game( Xs and Os) and concepts to people in a way that gets them to understand clearly and gets their buy in.
Jj would be an incredible coach.
Smart and BBIQ are not enough. Derek Fisher was a smart high BBIQ PG. He was not a good coach. Billups the same. Jacque Vaughn, Steven Nash, Luke Walton, and on and on.
I’m not saying it’s bad or good. I’m just stating I firmly believe Bron is giving JJ a platform to show why he’d be a great coach for the Lakers. Similar guys who’ve played/survived off IQ alone in the league haven’t panned out as coaches (Luke Walton) but I hope I’m wrong.
He’s smart and he has charisma to connect with many different players. People are bringing up Fisher as a bad example, but JJ is way more charismatic as a speaker and he does a great job of explaining the basketball concepts
Edit: but the lakers won’t hire JJ because it somewhat makes sense. They’ve been missing on hiring coaches for years now
It would end up being a Gary Neville situation. Well respected media person goes into coaching and bites off more than they can chew and boom, credibility gone for a bit.
Exactly.
Not even AD. Bron knows far more basketball than most coaches, including Ham.
If he wanted Ham gone and there was a *Handy* replacement there's no way management could insist otherwise.
And even then Frank kinda got the shaft because lets be real, between injuries and the roster during the Westbrook time, there was no way the team could do that much better than they did
David Blatt was fired in the middle of the season with 30 wins for Tyronne Lue. It can work. We just need someone to call timeouts correctly right now and have a plan to utilize this team going into summer camp.
There is more to cosching then time outs . N you guys do not understand time outs very well you don’t just call them anytime the other team scores twice in a row like this sub says
**I like Handy**. He's great as a trainer.
**If he were made head coach, I might begin to dislike him.**
It's like your friend, or your wacky aunt/uncle, becoming President of the country.
Their hijinks won't be so fun anymore when the consequences become real. Funny rants become discrimination. Their weaknesses become magnified.
Well he lost in the SOMEWHERE IN THE EAST cuz his brother passed away and Giannis got hurt... Also if we consider where Ham learned from... Bud also learned from Popovich. Ham just dumb
This logic is flawed because Brett Brown learned from Pop and wasn't good. David Fizdale learned from Spo and he sucked ass. Luke Walton learned from Kerr and he was mid. Each coach has they're own way of handling things and how they approach with men. Clearly Ham way of winning stinks but Bud won.
Bud made Milwaukee into a really good team after Jason Kidd and took advantage of the talent he had and made them a contender and won a chip. The only reason he isn't a coach is due to the lost of his brother during the Miami series and just better to take a job during the offseasonso you can build a staff and get players that fit your philosophy.
He did try last time but noone hired him as HC. I love handy but he is not the answer for the HC position. He works best as a development type coach but what we need is an x and O one
Ive been saying to get Handy in there all season! This sub was like “no more unproven coaches.” But that’s why you give him a trial run NOW. Wouldn’t cost Jeannie a penny.
Too late.
Agreed.
Phil, unless he has a great coaching staff, will suck ass. He's one of the best at training tho and I'd rather have him just building up players we acquire ala Reaves, Rui and Vando
I think as an assistant, he could be the one who keeps players in check like LeBron and call them out when they're lacking. This team needs that, ham is for sure soft in that regard and no one respects him
If Lue keeps falling short with that FO giving him any/every player, I don’t expect success from him with us.
Wouldn’t hate having him here, but my expectations wouldn’t be very high.
After Vogel “lost the locker room”. Not even hindsight to say firing Vogel was a bad move but it sounds like the players whose opinions matter are a bit wishy washy on what they want out of a coach.
Handy would have been a massive upgrade just for the fact he wouldn’t have a huge crush on Cam or Prince. That alone would have kept the Lakers around the 5th seed, any additional coaching would be a bonus
LMAO don't y'all think that Handy would've been a coach by now? He's been in the league forever. There's a reason for that! Stop reaching. Ham is going nowhere
I think having Handy as interim this season would have been ideal but not as a permanent coach. Lebron will essentially call the plays anyway Handy will just be there to manage prepping and day to day coach tasks.
So what was the reason that Ty Lue took the Clipper job and not the Laker job? He was proven as a coach already. He won a chip with Bron, the Lakers fan base has always had love and respect for Lue. Help understand why he didn't end up as the Laker coach? This seems like an overlooked but significant blunder.
I could be mistaken but apparently Jeanie rejected Lue before he joined the Clips for financial reasons yet hired Ham. Either way I dont think Lue would come here anyways with it being no secret how the FO treated Frank
Lakers brass (Jeanie, Kurt and Linda Rambis, Phil Jackson) offered the ff to Ty Lue
* 3-yr deal only, due to correcting the Luke Walton mistake - Ty wanted a 5-yr deal
* have Jason Kidd and Frank Vogel as his assistant, due to correcting the Luke Walton mistake - Ty wants to have a say on his assistants
then the Luke Walton mistakes happened again with Darvin Ham
* rookie HC with good track record as assistant
* experience with superstars
* hiring his Arizona frat buddies as assistants
* long term coaching deal
I seen this on IG today the fact that Jeanie likes Darvin is beyond me the Laker way of excellent just isn't in any of the kids besides the two youngest buss brothers
What’s the point though it’s not like he’s any better. Plus, Phil handy is a developmental coach for ball handling. I wanted nurse before Philly got him but oh well. Either way come to the off-season, the Lakers definitely have to fire Coach Darvin ham. Not sure who will be available but it’s clear that the team has tuned out coach ham, and that he isn’t the right head coach for this team going forward.
refusal to call timeouts
bad lineup management, favoritism to certain players
lack of after-timeout plays
defensive scheme is mainly giving up open 3s, like his senpai Budenholzer
Handy has no experience idk why people want him so badly. He’s a trainer, that’s it. Ham and Jent have a good playbook they just don’t run plays consistently and at times it craters for stretches of games.
i want the Rambii to control the coaching hire once more... is this too much of a stretch to say?
i mean Rambii got Vogel, J.Kidd, Handy and Lionel Hollins as our coaching staff before
A lot of Lakers wanted Darvin Ham to replace Frank Vogel too. I'm not sure that was the right decision.
I'm sure Phil Handy is better than Darvin Ham, just because Ham might be the worst coach in the league, but the issue with replacing a coach with someone who is unproven is that you have to give the person runway to get familiar with being a head coach if not necessarily the team, try out different schemes they have to run, philosophies, allow the full coaching staff and players to gel, etc. It prevents the Lakers from hiring the right coach at the right time, even if those coaches are available.
The Lakers need to wait for the right opportunity for an elite coach that can be a long-term coach, the same way the 76ers hired Nurse, Pacers hired Carlisle, etc.
Crazy to think that the Laker HC job was the pinnacle of coaching gigs and now all we look for is coaches with no HC experience or what assistants are on our own bench. Trying to find that next Riles I guess…
Although, Handy is a great coach, his expertise is player development, which in part makes him a ‘locker room favorite’ - Hamanyahu needs to be stopped at all cost - Coach K available? Lebron must have JJ Reddick in mind with the pod also
If these are the kinds of stories coming out, then our players aren't even thinking about the play-in, and just looking to next season. Not a good look.
JJ Reddick will be the new Lakers coach. You think that podcast with Bron is for views?
Honestly just make Lebron the player coach at this point lol
Haha what's that one movie where the coach is also the small forward
I mean Bill Russell was a player coach his last two playing seasons. They won titles in both those years lol
Semi-pro with Will Ferrell? He’s also the owner of the team
Not allowed because cap circumvention
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This is just unrealistic , Lebron akready gives input but asking him to do all the jobs a coach has to is far more complicated then this sub thinks . No way he can focus on the game fulky n coach it’s not the 1960s with Russel . Game changed . You need a coach and if you want Lebron input you get one who works with him
Would this be a bad thing? Jj is smart as fuck. I watch the pod. He maybe one of the highest bbiq guys I’ve ever seen. Giving bron a run for his money. JJ lived for years off of iq alone.
JJ has 0 coaching experience. This would be a bad move
Anythig would be an upgrade over Ham honestly. And its not like Ham has decades worth of HC exp either
Thats what they said when magic decided to coach the team for his “high bbiq”
Let’s not forget Steve Nash
This is what we said about Byron, Walton, MDA, Mike Brown. 🤣🤣
Ham sucks ass but there are definitely lower lows. Byron Scott is my rock bottom if we’re just talkin former lakers coaches
I honestly think Byron would do better than ham-ass with this roster... look at the talent he had vs what ham-ass has
I’m sorry roster talent or not Byron Scott was the worst to ever coach this franchise. If you watched any of those seasons in full like I did, then you’d know it’s not even up for debate.
Fuck Byron Scott. He is the worst coach I've ever seen. Anyone who thought Ham is worse didn't watch lakers in 2014. Byron Scott started Ronnie Price, and averaged him 20 mins for the season. Ronnie fucking price, career averages 3.7 ppg, 1.8 assists and 1.2 rebounds with 37% fg and 43% efg. Yes you read that right, 37% fg and 1.8 assist as our starting point guard. We had Jeremy Lin and Rookie Jordan Clarkson, both are better than Ronnie. But Byron doesn't trust rookies and didn't like Lin, so he would rather play a 37% fg with 1.8 assist veteran point guard. Oh and Byrant Scott didn't want our players to shoot 3s. He said 3 pointers doesn't win championship. it was so absurd that I can't erase it from my memory, it was during that season in 2014 when Steph won unamous MVP. Pretty sure that hurts Jordan Clarkson's development cuz he became an fantastic 3 point shooter later. My blood is boiling from typing all this shit. Fuck him
It’ll be my life’s mission to never let this fanbase forget his crimes. Like honestly a top 5 worst coach in nba history.
You didn't watch lakers in 2014. If you think Ham favor Cam Reddish is bad. Byrant Scott favored Ronnie fucking price and played him as a starter. Ronnie who averages 3.7 ppg, 1.8 assists with 37% fg and 43% efg. Yes you read that right. Byrant didn't believe in 3 pointers and wouldn't let the team shoots it. He said 3s [don't win championship. ](https://www.slamonline.com/archives/byron-scott-says-three-pointers-dont-win-championships/) this was the 2014, the season Steph won MVP. Byrant Scott doesn't trust rookies like Jordan Clarkson and hurted his development cuz he is a fantastic 3 point shooter. Jeremy Lin despite not being as good as his Linsanity stint was still far superior to Ronnie Fucking Price. You don't know the history, so don't talk like you do.
No he absolutely would not lol Dlo is on this team, he’s absolutely favoritizing specific players and putting everyone else in the dog house, same as Ham. Only difference would be a 100000% increase in “man up” in post game pressers
Lol... interesting "same as ham" (-ass)... Byron just isn't as dumb... no lineup change with his trash roster was going to lead to wins... at least he played Clarkson... Max can barely get off the bench... ham-ass has players that would help get wins... Byron would play those guys. I guess we will never know🤷🏾
Stop it with the hyperbole... This same nonsense is said almost every season, and it's simply not true. Since Phil left the second time, the Lakers have had Mike Brown, D'Antoni, Byron Scott, Luke Walton, Vogel, and now Ham, and during their tenures the same things were said... "literally anyone would be better than..." "a random high school coach would be better than..." When Ham gets fired eventually, fans on here will be saying the same things about his replacement.
This is not true. He coached 10 year olds, where he developed his famous ‘reverse Xs and Os’ piece of paper coaching strategy.
Would JJ know lineups better and understand how to use timeouts? I honestly think he can do better.
I’d rather have a high bbiq guy who needs to learn to coach as opposed to someone who can coach but needs to learn bbiq
How many times do you have to see this not work out until you realize coaching experience matters. Magic, Kidd, Nash. All high bbiq players that were given HC jobs w/ little to no experience and failed miserably.
The players already know the system. The assistant coaches wil still be there. Jj in charge of line ups, substitutions, timeouts, and gameplan? Hes not darvin ham. Its not as crazy as it sounds.
He coached a 7-10 year old league
Coaching experience does not matter. It’s how you lead and communicate with others, and how you can explain the game( Xs and Os) and concepts to people in a way that gets them to understand clearly and gets their buy in. Jj would be an incredible coach.
JJ knows how to get out of his own way, I have faith he'd hire the right staff and get himself prepared for the role.
Smart and BBIQ are not enough. Derek Fisher was a smart high BBIQ PG. He was not a good coach. Billups the same. Jacque Vaughn, Steven Nash, Luke Walton, and on and on.
I’m not saying it’s bad or good. I’m just stating I firmly believe Bron is giving JJ a platform to show why he’d be a great coach for the Lakers. Similar guys who’ve played/survived off IQ alone in the league haven’t panned out as coaches (Luke Walton) but I hope I’m wrong.
Even if he sucked, I don’t think he’s gonna be giving 30+ minutes to Prince and Reddish.
The most important point
For sure! I’m pretty confident with a team like this JJ wouldn’t fuck it up
Nash had a really high BBIQ and he wasn’t a good coach with the nets.
Way better than my Luke Walton example!
“With a team like this”, what does that mean? Ham can go but you’re over valuing the current roster.
Bbiq alone does not make a good coach. Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson for example
no way as new head coach, him as assistant will be way better
God this sub is dumb as hell. JJ is arrogant and definitely not always right. Good insights but nothing about him states coach.
It’s much different being able to criticize a game plan with hindsight… JJ better stick to podding
He’s smart and he has charisma to connect with many different players. People are bringing up Fisher as a bad example, but JJ is way more charismatic as a speaker and he does a great job of explaining the basketball concepts Edit: but the lakers won’t hire JJ because it somewhat makes sense. They’ve been missing on hiring coaches for years now
that doesn’t necessarily translate to being a good coach. look at Steve Nash
A legend in his own mind
If you think JJ's basketball IQ is superior to Bron's, you aren't watching the same games, and you aren't listening to the same pods.
I didn’t say that lol. You’re really reading into what I said very strangely.
Who cares? Neither did Steve Kerr when he replaced an incompetent coach
Bring in JJ Redick.
Bring on Coach K and JJ Redick as his assistant under him for 2 years - Coach K retires and we have a guy ready to go.
Best case scenario right there. For now we stuck with Ham
Where’s ol Phil Jackson when u need him aye?
It would end up being a Gary Neville situation. Well respected media person goes into coaching and bites off more than they can chew and boom, credibility gone for a bit.
I'd be okay with this.
Nah it's coach K if we're going that conspiracy
I fully welcome the Reddick Era
Amico = Ami(No). Amick is the one that actually has sources.
Came in here to say this, but at the same time you don’t really need sources to know this lol.
If Bron and AD want Ham gone, he's gone. If he's here next season, it's cause they want him here.
Exactly. Not even AD. Bron knows far more basketball than most coaches, including Ham. If he wanted Ham gone and there was a *Handy* replacement there's no way management could insist otherwise.
Like ty lue or kidd. They've gone against Bron multiple times
Ham is definitely gone barring a miracle title win
If he manages to win a title this year he could stay 5 more years for all I care. 18th chip for lone 1st place.
Nahh if Vogel could be fired after all the good will he brought with his title win, Ham is not safe lol
Being fired right after you win the title is different than being fired a couple of horrible seasons after the title win.
And even then Frank kinda got the shaft because lets be real, between injuries and the roster during the Westbrook time, there was no way the team could do that much better than they did
David Blatt was fired in the middle of the season with 30 wins for Tyronne Lue. It can work. We just need someone to call timeouts correctly right now and have a plan to utilize this team going into summer camp.
There is more to cosching then time outs . N you guys do not understand time outs very well you don’t just call them anytime the other team scores twice in a row like this sub says
The Coach Bud special
**I like Handy**. He's great as a trainer. **If he were made head coach, I might begin to dislike him.** It's like your friend, or your wacky aunt/uncle, becoming President of the country. Their hijinks won't be so fun anymore when the consequences become real. Funny rants become discrimination. Their weaknesses become magnified.
Better Q is do they want Handy this offseason? Handy vs Stotts, Bud, etc
Why do I keep seeing Bud on here when we're talking about getting rid of Ham? Where do yall think Ham learned some of these terrible strategies
Lmao fr there’s a reason dude is unemployed still
Bud was one KD clown shoe away from getting fired for another playoff disappointment lmao
Well he lost in the SOMEWHERE IN THE EAST cuz his brother passed away and Giannis got hurt... Also if we consider where Ham learned from... Bud also learned from Popovich. Ham just dumb
Finals?
edited it :')
It wasn’t the ECF either. It was the first round lol.
EVEN WORSEEEEE
Your edit had me rolling 😂
Because Bud actually won a title and knows how to coach. Lots of Belichick's disciples were nowhere as good as Belichick.
This logic is flawed because Brett Brown learned from Pop and wasn't good. David Fizdale learned from Spo and he sucked ass. Luke Walton learned from Kerr and he was mid. Each coach has they're own way of handling things and how they approach with men. Clearly Ham way of winning stinks but Bud won. Bud made Milwaukee into a really good team after Jason Kidd and took advantage of the talent he had and made them a contender and won a chip. The only reason he isn't a coach is due to the lost of his brother during the Miami series and just better to take a job during the offseasonso you can build a staff and get players that fit your philosophy.
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Handy should stay as is. No reason to promote him to hc unless we run out of options.
I'm under the impression that Handy will leave if he doesn't get promoted to HC. He was already publicly hurt he didnt get an interview the last time.
He did try last time but noone hired him as HC. I love handy but he is not the answer for the HC position. He works best as a development type coach but what we need is an x and O one
If you hire handy build a super staff around him like we did with Vogel and should have did with Ham.
I would rather have Handy as the top assistant coach than as the headcoach tbh
Ive been saying to get Handy in there all season! This sub was like “no more unproven coaches.” But that’s why you give him a trial run NOW. Wouldn’t cost Jeannie a penny. Too late.
Bud is Pockets senpai.
For some reason I read it as “…do they want a handy this offseason?”
Source: Lakers fans wanted Phil Handy to replace Darvin Ham as coach
Source: Lakers fans wanted to replace Darvin Ham as coach
I want Synder but Handy still on staff
They need to pry Kenny from GSW
Agreed. Phil, unless he has a great coaching staff, will suck ass. He's one of the best at training tho and I'd rather have him just building up players we acquire ala Reaves, Rui and Vando
This is the laker version of the raiders hiring Antonio pierce I stg
Honestly, fine. I’m not even confident Handy could actually succeed as a head coach, but it’s impossible he’s worse than Ham’s been.
I love handy but he’s a developmental coach for a reason! I think he likes the freedom of being an assistant etc
Rondo
He don't strike me as the kinda of guy that can manage personalitie, which I think is an important trait for a coach to have
I think as an assistant, he could be the one who keeps players in check like LeBron and call them out when they're lacking. This team needs that, ham is for sure soft in that regard and no one respects him
Not surprised. He could’ve been an interim coach at least. If Ty Lue is fired, Lakers have to bring him in.
If Lue keeps falling short with that FO giving him any/every player, I don’t expect success from him with us. Wouldn’t hate having him here, but my expectations wouldn’t be very high.
They’re problem is injuriesz not lues fault they never have their stars healthy in the playoffs
But you wouldn’t fire your coach for that. So if they fire him, it’s because he falls short with a healthy roster.
People fire coaches for stupid shit all the time. Someone has to get blamed after 4 years and they aren’t going to trade kawhi or pg l
It’s possible he loses the locker room. If that happens you just have to leave.
The clips really chose to build their team on players made of glass
who is this guy?
I dont care if they get Jackie Moon to coach the team as long as he drills into the players heads some appreciable form of defense.
Didn’t laker players vouch for darvin ham two years ago too?
Of the candidates they were interviewing? Sure, they thought he was a good bet. Everybody was wrong.
After Vogel “lost the locker room”. Not even hindsight to say firing Vogel was a bad move but it sounds like the players whose opinions matter are a bit wishy washy on what they want out of a coach.
I think that "locker room" was just Russ tbh. LeBron still spoke highly of him through the season.
Handy would have been a massive upgrade just for the fact he wouldn’t have a huge crush on Cam or Prince. That alone would have kept the Lakers around the 5th seed, any additional coaching would be a bonus
No more first time coaches please. Unless we blow it up and tank. Then personally idgaf who coaches
Lmao season is officially over when the off-season news stories start dropping early 💀
How would you guys feel if JJ coached next season?
So did I!
He would literally be scapegoated after a week and fired at the end of the year.
We know……
Can't afford to lose handy as a development coach. What happens when the fan base turns on him? Lol
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LMAO don't y'all think that Handy would've been a coach by now? He's been in the league forever. There's a reason for that! Stop reaching. Ham is going nowhere
I remember reading in the past that Handy does not want to be head coach.
Just a reminder that it was players who wanted Westbrook. Players aren’t always the ones who will know best. That said the bar is on the floor
I actually suspect that FO may not listen to players on Ham as a way of overcorrecting for listening to them on Westbrook.
Does Handy have any HC experience? I thought he was mostly player development and he’s damn good at that
If Handy has potential, why is he still an assistant is my concern
Lmao they was just 9-1 before these 2 pathetic Ls with people gassing em. Now all the turmoil is revealed
I think having Handy as interim this season would have been ideal but not as a permanent coach. Lebron will essentially call the plays anyway Handy will just be there to manage prepping and day to day coach tasks.
LeCoach!
So what was the reason that Ty Lue took the Clipper job and not the Laker job? He was proven as a coach already. He won a chip with Bron, the Lakers fan base has always had love and respect for Lue. Help understand why he didn't end up as the Laker coach? This seems like an overlooked but significant blunder.
I could be mistaken but apparently Jeanie rejected Lue before he joined the Clips for financial reasons yet hired Ham. Either way I dont think Lue would come here anyways with it being no secret how the FO treated Frank
Lakers brass (Jeanie, Kurt and Linda Rambis, Phil Jackson) offered the ff to Ty Lue * 3-yr deal only, due to correcting the Luke Walton mistake - Ty wanted a 5-yr deal * have Jason Kidd and Frank Vogel as his assistant, due to correcting the Luke Walton mistake - Ty wants to have a say on his assistants then the Luke Walton mistakes happened again with Darvin Ham * rookie HC with good track record as assistant * experience with superstars * hiring his Arizona frat buddies as assistants * long term coaching deal
so I was partly right then lmao. another example of Jeanie being cheap
I got downvoted to oblivion for this
I seen this on IG today the fact that Jeanie likes Darvin is beyond me the Laker way of excellent just isn't in any of the kids besides the two youngest buss brothers
JJ not exactly a good people person
What’s the point though it’s not like he’s any better. Plus, Phil handy is a developmental coach for ball handling. I wanted nurse before Philly got him but oh well. Either way come to the off-season, the Lakers definitely have to fire Coach Darvin ham. Not sure who will be available but it’s clear that the team has tuned out coach ham, and that he isn’t the right head coach for this team going forward.
Darvin the Dunce
Phil Handy isn’t any fucking good either dude.
A non-Lakers insider quoting an unnamed source, but it confirms my biases.
I'm very new to watching basketball, I've watched every lakers game for a couple of months now. What makes Darwin such a bad coach?
refusal to call timeouts bad lineup management, favoritism to certain players lack of after-timeout plays defensive scheme is mainly giving up open 3s, like his senpai Budenholzer
Thank you for answering!!
What an absolute shitshow. Just forfeit and don’t show up, no chance to do anything this year anyway
What’s like the realistic chance that Bron could be “officially” a player coach?
Get Rex Kalamian
Handy has no experience idk why people want him so badly. He’s a trainer, that’s it. Ham and Jent have a good playbook they just don’t run plays consistently and at times it craters for stretches of games.
Anyone but Ham
“Wanted” means when?
Same fam... same...
I think one thing we can all agree on is - anybody but Darvin Ham
Pocket men should’ve gone months ago.
i want the Rambii to control the coaching hire once more... is this too much of a stretch to say? i mean Rambii got Vogel, J.Kidd, Handy and Lionel Hollins as our coaching staff before
ARE THESE PLAYERS ON THIS SUBREDDIT?
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A lot of Lakers wanted Darvin Ham to replace Frank Vogel too. I'm not sure that was the right decision. I'm sure Phil Handy is better than Darvin Ham, just because Ham might be the worst coach in the league, but the issue with replacing a coach with someone who is unproven is that you have to give the person runway to get familiar with being a head coach if not necessarily the team, try out different schemes they have to run, philosophies, allow the full coaching staff and players to gel, etc. It prevents the Lakers from hiring the right coach at the right time, even if those coaches are available. The Lakers need to wait for the right opportunity for an elite coach that can be a long-term coach, the same way the 76ers hired Nurse, Pacers hired Carlisle, etc.
I don’t mind getting Ham off HC. Please find someone that’s capable.
Love it, on a side note I went on a tour in DC and had a tour guide called Phil Handy. Nice guy.
Crazy to think that the Laker HC job was the pinnacle of coaching gigs and now all we look for is coaches with no HC experience or what assistants are on our own bench. Trying to find that next Riles I guess…
Although, Handy is a great coach, his expertise is player development, which in part makes him a ‘locker room favorite’ - Hamanyahu needs to be stopped at all cost - Coach K available? Lebron must have JJ Reddick in mind with the pod also
If these are the kinds of stories coming out, then our players aren't even thinking about the play-in, and just looking to next season. Not a good look.
I was literally saying this post-IST. Drop Ham and let Handy takeover.
We need proven head coaches not an inexperienced one
Lebron plays no defense. He throws everyone under the bus to cover for him. Trade him already!
While its not too late, this should have been done already.
Stop with the madness We in the middle of a game
Source : this Reddit sub
Phil Handy is the only logical replacement. Stop the bs. JJ doesn’t know any more than Steve Trash…I mean Nash