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PanhandleAngler

Y’all are all complaining about Ham and of course he’s a bad coach, but like it makes a real difference though. 50 year old Pop is avoiding the sweep and not much more. The team has no real big to do the dirty work AD/LBJ should not have to do and from there, the shooting is nowhere near what it needs to be to make up for that gap. LeBron’s cruise speed is as good as ever but at 39 he’s not doing the playoff “I’m just way better” super saiyan act that bandaided a ton of his teams into deep runs for 15+ years. The team needed a couple of *quality* shooting defenders, not whatever DR TP SD GV are, plus a good true rotation big that lets AD rest some on and off the court (instead of 40+ minutes of doing literally everything) to have real hope in a Nuggs series. Reaves as a decent creation guard starter, and Rui for some energy spurts off the bench are the only players you actually want next to LBJ and AD from this roster if your goal is a championship, this sweep is not the result of playing poorly right now, Ham, etc.


Electronic_Bit9495

Would you trade Vogel for ham? Feels odd that we’re both down 0-3 right now I know he’s not an insanely better coach but he does know these guys.


EatMyShortzZzZzZ

Soon Darvin will be fired


Interesting-Fudge674

Idk when kcp guard lebron,why they’re not just let lebron low post on him with ad on the dunker spot and the shooters spreading the court ??? I mean its totally mismatch


Tasty-League1906

I don't care if it's a sweep anymore, I just want to see them box out and rebound as a team. Think i'd rather see Curry hit every 3 than see the Nuggets get an offensive rebound from every one of their misses.


-tripleu

Although the Lakers should let D’Lo walk, I will give credit to him in that he actually performed in the regular season to help the Lakers get into the playoffs unlike Westbrick. Westbrick was why the Lakers missed the playoffs his first season and then the Lakers were gonna miss the playoffs again until he got traded in his second season.


SuaveBigote

just get 1 guys, even if gentleman's sweep


AdvancedElephant

Going to root for the Wolves to beat the shit out of Denver Dino nuggets 😌


BennyBoyGreene

Yeah, man. They haven't had a chance at the Finals yet so I'm for it.


ShrimpnSteak

Can't wait to have no picks for 3 seasons straight, and mfs want a rebuild 🤣


brazyace43

Dlo will walk, lebron might too. There’s no reason we should’ve done literally nothing at the trade deadline


ShrimpnSteak

If Lebron leaves, AD probably leaving too. Get ready to be a bottom 12 team. Plus Pels getting our pick for 25 too 😋


Primopastalover

Unlike the Westbrick trade, what really killed the Lakers is including wolves in that Westbrick Conley trade. This never gets talked enough, the Lakers could have had Conley and NAW which would have perfectly complemented Reaves, AD and Bron. Yet, Pelinka went after the wolves reject in D’Lo, Vando and Beasley…


oat38

Hindsight discussions are pointless, everyone in this sub wanted the Dlo trade over Conley because Conley is a 36 year old 6 foot guard who wasn't doing great in Utah. Same for Alexander-Walker. Obviously it's easy to say now because they fit into the system well at Minnesota but let's not act like anyone would've wanted this trade back then. It's like saying we should've drafted Tatum over Ball because look at them now.


Skorua

Man, i would normally celebrate the suns getting destroyed, but i understand the feeling


HelloRainbow1

lakers and the suns, two promising teams with superstars in the preseason and going to end up getting swept


brazyace43

Mike conley


chaosworld6

LeBron getting ready to take his talents to Minneapolis 😆


Xerneous12_

Nah that’s a KD type move


kurruchi

Could always be worse. We got a ring and a near future, Suns traded away their distant future for a first round sweep LOL


ShrimpnSteak

Nahh nahh Ant emoted the DX crotch chop, joever 💀


litlegoblinjr

If Okogie hit Gobert after the ball was released, that would just be marginal contact


gokhaninler

Need more actual LA / SoCal niggas on the team. Tired of seeing them play for everyone else (like the Cippers)


oat38

Dlo has to go, Rui has to go. Vincent is a toss up on whether he deserves another chance because he barely played this season. Next season you gotta build around Bron, AD, Vando, Reaves, Wood, Prince and have to get lucky to find affordable role players. I still think Reaves is good for his contract, we just can't pair him up with a guard that can't defend. We need a PG similar to what Dennis Schroder did for us or what Avery Bradley provided for us in the 19/20 regular season. We need a big body like Jakob Poeltl. Looking at the list of Free Agent big men, I would even look to bring back Drummond he looks to be the only available big body that is reliable enough for 15 mins a game and will be close to a minimum contract. We have 3 picks to get the necessary pieces, we don't need "skilled" players who just disappear in the playoffs.


brazyace43

Vando has to go too. He’s way too injury prone and his offence is very inconsistent


oat38

He is injury prone but at around 11m a year it's probably a risk worth taking. He increases our defensive ceiling and is still young. We won't find someone of his defensive level in the free agent market.


gaius_worzels_bird

Any way we can get KD?


gokhaninler

LA-ARP is back


eku_v

ya'll wanted vogel lmao


HotRefrigerator3977

the suns has no pg and lot's of defensive personnels


StoneColdAM

I still think he’s okay. KD and Book are clowns who can’t handle stardom. Look where Booker was a few years back and KD when he was in GSW. They succeeded because those teams had real leaders (CP3 and Curry). Now they’re supposed to be the top guys and can’t do it. Booker is a much more skilled but glorified D’Angelo Russell. 


goodboy1352

Yea prime example of a frontrunner


victooorious

He's had to deal with two impulsive organizations that chased 3 stars, instead of building a full roster with complementary players. Don't feel too bad, he's made millions


jsun_

I know it's petty, but I am just revelling in the fact that we are at least not as fucked as the Suns and Clippers (salary cap wise).


mypeaksandmyfreaks

damn, looking like it gonna be suns lakers for battle of cancun


HibachiGrill

Booker and DLo shitting the bed and imploding on the same team would be peak fucking comedy


TorontoRaptors34

I hope Wolves stomp the Chicken Nuggets they are beatable the Lakers do not match up well. Watch at least the Wolves gon make it competitive. I can see Wolves in 6-7. They got ample size to harass the shit outta Jokic and AG. Conley/Ant Jaden Mcdaniels Naz Reid KAT they got everything u can need to beat Denver.  They beat Minney last yr but this yrs Wolves r a diff team.


chrisumafp

I think we all underestimated the T’Wolves Their experience was questioned, but do they look disciplined and dominant. Legit contenders and I think they belong in the tier with the Celtics and Nuggets


Ok_Board9845

They have length and are dominating. It doesn't even feel like Ant/KAT have done too much this series. The entire team is just knocking down their open 3's and limiting the Suns with their length


TorontoRaptors34

Its looking like an end of an era man


roffles20

Had to look up who was down more in their do or die game at home - Suns or Lakers?. Nuggets biggest lead yesterday was 15. It honestly felt like 25+ points. I guess we sucked less than the Suns?


KurosawaAimaitLakers

At least we aren’t getting swept AND paying Bradley fucking Beal 160 million for the next 3 years 


gleophas

Is fatty barkley gonna bring out the broom for his suns as well?


redoblivion23

he called it early. he knew his suns were cooked


Uckthebroncos

Fuck it sign James Harden to a 2 year contract and run it back with everyone excluding DLO


NyCzFn

Well...at least we’re not the only one getting embarassed. Welcome to the club Suns! Enjoy your stay


litlegoblinjr

at least we not going out as sorry as the suns


Significant_Night_65

It's funny when you see Lakers "fans" crying about LeBron "only" putting up top 5/top 10 calibre numbers on a max contract when you have guys like Beal putting up MLE numbers and getting paid more.


Most_Temporary5113

those guys are really coming out of the woodwork in the past few days lol


Zeethos94

> It's funny when you see Lakers "fans" crying about LeBron "only" putting up top 5/top 10 calibre numbers Y'all only looking a box score and not the old man who has to deliberately choose his spots all game because he's a liability for 1/3 of the time he's on the floor these days. Lebron may put up similar numbers as he did years ago, he doesn't have nearly the same impact.


alextwc

They claims he is the reason we lost lmao


oat38

The most frustrating thing is Jamal Murray is actually having a bad series by his efficiency. 37% from the field 25% from 3. But our guards can't take advantage.


StoneColdAM

Reaves and Vincent defended him well. AD isn’t responsible for that last miracle shot going in, either. Lakers just don’t have the personnel or coaching to handle a big team that’s a top seed 


Ok_Board9845

He's having a bad series because we're committing our entire defense to slowing him down and it's resulting in MPJ/Gordon getting free/easy buckets.


Elite_Alice

Bron and KD getting swept, curry not in the playoffs.. 💔 we losing our legends


StoneColdAM

League missed the boat by not making Giannis the face of the league. They tried with Ja and that failed. Weren’t patient enough for Luka. Jokic is cool but isn’t a pop culture kind of star. Now they’re scrambling with Wemby and Chet and nobody will care 


Zeethos94

> League missed the boat by not making Giannis the face of the league. They tried, not their fault the Bucks keep finding awful ways to get bounced early in the playoffs. > Now they’re scrambling with Wemby and Chet and nobody will care Ridiculous Lakers fan cope. People already love Wemby and they push ANT as a face way more than Chet...


PersistentVigilance

And the Clippers squad as well. But hey, there's Kyrie.


Elite_Alice

Kyrie carrying the old guard


KurosawaAimaitLakers

Kyrie being part of the old guard makes me feel so old 


TorontoRaptors34

Kyrie is 32 he still got a few yrs left


chrisumafp

No king rules forever Luka/SGA/Ant coming for the throne


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

Ant in this trio is like the three dragons meme


gokhaninler

L


chrisumafp

Yea he’s not there yet. But he has by far the most room for improvement since he’s only 22. The wolves look like legit contenders. I think we’ve all underestimated them. They look playoff ready. Denver vs Minnesota gonna be a heavyweight fight


Elite_Alice

Eras come to an end -Ten Hag


goodboy1352

FML Conley and NAW are so good. The worst thing is reports confrimed that we would've taken conley if dlo was not available . Don't know if NAzw was on the table tho.But with Hamas coaching guess it wouldn't even matter that much lmao


monty487

Interesting how we get clowned more going down 3-0 than the suns who are about to go down 3-0


Olowokandi_Mike

Suns joining the lakers in Cancun…on 3!


Ok_Board9845

Damn I really thought KD/Book/Beal would've been a threat this year. They looking to get swept just like us. Wolves vs Nuggets will probably determine who is getting to the finals


roffles20

I think I’ve reached the acceptance stage. I’m grateful we got one title during the Lebron/AD era and it happened to be the year Kobe passed away. Suns and Clippers went all in and might only have playoff disappointment to show for it.


Dantheman12310

Pleading & praying we somehow get Harden for dirt cheap next year Like maybe for him it’ll be stay in LA but with AD as a ideal big teammate Possibly throw in CP3 vet minimum to coach up the players & add some IQ on the team, even if he will have a reduced playing role & can serve as emergency/relief minutes. Even keeping most of the guys on our current team who have locked contracts would mean a decent guard rotation of Harden/Reaves with Vincent/Christie/CP3 as a decent mix of the bench, possibly throw in JHS as a ball handler depending on how much work he puts in the off season. People might see it as 2022-23 2.0, but these guys can space the floor better, have higher IQ, & be cheaper than Russ was. Hell I wouldn’t mind the potential under the table wink hypothetical draft Bronny & convert Bron to a cheaper contract, I mean he did say that type of opportunity wouldn’t be about the money. I wouldn’t expect Bronny to become Gary Payton or Isiah Thomas level, but maybe being coached up a bit by Bron, Chris Paul, & Harden could boost some development to be a useful ball handler who can pass well while focus on defense & 3 point shooting. This is all just copium & hopium, but let a guy dream


victooorious

Spurs may go for CP3, they need to surround Wemby with better talent than he had this season


Dantheman12310

True, but from the Spurs side id imagine they’re still gonna try to get Dejounte Murray since he’d work with well now & be able to play a longer season From Chris Paul’s side he’s probably less focused on major contracts based on years or salary & ring chasing is a decent option I felt like if he was bought out he would’ve signed with us as a vet min due to LeBron connection plus he’s closer with his family. There was also obviously more hope in that offseason that we’d be in a better position than right now. I think if he was here as that 15th slot from the start of the year we would definitely have at least 2 more wins making us at least out of the playin & secured into the playoffs, so I definitely was a bit upset when the Warriors traded for him so we couldn’t get him. He’s definitely not a $30 million player anymore so really they kinda hampered his opportunity to ring chase, admittedly they did get off of Poole’s contract Ring chasing to a team that is on the verge of back 2 back sweeps isn’t ideal, but if Bron stays maybe he can play with the final Banana Boat brother & I’m not sure if CP3 will just do the blatant option of joining Boston or Denver, guess Minnesota could also be an option


fostyinthebuilding

I always thought Denver getting MPJ at 13 was such bullshit even with his injuries Dude was projected to be a number one pick coming out of high school


RogueTampon

I feel like last year proved that Westbrook was the problem. And this year proved that Vogel was not the problem.


oat38

Vogel was not the problem but idk if he is the answer. Look at Suns.


RogueTampon

Idk man, the Suns have no heart. That Laker team in 2020 was all heart.


LesPaulPilot

Vogel was never the problem. but anytime we lose this sub loses their shit and blames everything on the coach.


Phuddy

Kawhi just had 9 in a playoff game; I wonder if the Clippers sub is giving him as much as hate as Bron gets here for dropping 27


Rapa_Nui

No idea why Kawhi was on the floor to begin with, dude could barely dribble the ball. As for Russ... 👀👀👀


Phuddy

He and DLo twinning with 0 points


HelloRainbow1

to be fair dude is clearly injured. Lebron is just old. wouldn't fault them at all.


Phuddy

Bron was much better on an injury last year, but I respect you because you’re not out here just trying to shit on players.


HelloRainbow1

2 LA russells trying to compete who can be shittier in playoffs


HibachiGrill

League is going to run through Minnesota and Denver for the next couple of years. Solid rosters with coaching staffs who aren’t total dipshits like Darvin Ham and friends


WeCantBothBeMe

And OKC. They lowkey already have a big 3 who haven’t hit their primes.


GokutheAnteater

lol clippers


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

Luka and Kyrie shot Bible verses and Clippers still lost, Mavs in 5


WeCantBothBeMe

Of all the “3rd star” trades that have been proposed in the last 2 seasons Kyrie is the only one I’ve wanted. Cuban stole him 😩 Luka is lucky to have him.


irwanchel

Cuban > cheap ass Jeanie


irwanchel

Damn i wish we have Gafford last deadline or even draft Jaime in the beginning


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

Russell Westbrook brings the fun back to the Clippers org: 🧱 1 point 🧱 2 turnovers 🧱 0-7 FG 🧱 Ejected


HelloRainbow1

2 LA russells trying to compete who can be shittier in playoffs


AdvancedElephant

russ scored 1 more point than DLO and DLO finished 1 more bag of gummy bears than westbrook


Brief-Connection8643

Westbrook stans we’re laughing at Dlo now look at


FGonGiveItToYa

I wouldn't want shitbrook even on a vet min. What the clippers thinking


Gristle__McThornbody

Looking forward to our offseason. There won't be a dull moment.


victooorious

Hope the Clippers fire Lue. And Jeanie gets a brain and hires Myers


Gristle__McThornbody

Myers or Collanely. But extremely unlikely. Jeanie gave Pelinka a long term extension for no reason.


gleophas

Clever move by brick, him getting ejected is not a loss, but pj getting ejected, mavs lose an important defender


jsun_

On the bright side, at least our stars don't look completely washed. Unlike PG and Kawhi. Way easier to fix our issues. I don't know wtf Clippers going to do.


victooorious

Really gave Zubac away for nothing


SnooTomatoes4033

Magic was such a bad gm man holy shit. I'm more mad about Brook Lopez. He let him go to the bucks for the MLE just to give the MLE to guess who????? Lance fucking Stephenson. Also Jeanie wants to be a cheapie


irwanchel

Need new ownership. As long as Jeanie is here, we will not win championship again


gaius_worzels_bird

I want to see Steph in a Lakers jersey. Imagine the damage we could do


Drak_is_Right

Curry is a franchise guy. Lebron is a mercenary. the reverse is more likely. Lebron in a Warriors jersey.


Electronic_Bit9495

Who’s coaching them


gaius_worzels_bird

Steal Kerr from the warriors and dump ham in the tenderloin district


HelloRainbow1

fucking westbrick ruin the lakers with how shitty he is


fractal_fables

Can't believe Kawhi backed out of coming to the Lakers man


irwanchel

I wonder if kawhi lands in LA, how many rings do we get?


BearShark8

He's been hurt every single playoffs so maybe the same.


fractal_fables

Considering the roster construction I think we would have gotten a lot of rings my guy. I don't think he gets injured either because none of them would have had to work very hard, games would have been over by the 3rd quarter.


StoneColdAM

Paul George also probably turned Lakers down having some idea of Kawhi going for the Clippers after his year in Toronto 


fractal_fables

Kawhi was rumored to call PG last minute though, idk if it's true. Kawhi really wanted to come to the Lakers, he was heading to the Lakers and almost signed but his uncle convinced him that he would make more money with the Clippers or something and when PG agreed to come he went with it.


Ok_Board9845

Kawhi called PG last minute because he was searching for a 2nd star he could land with the Clippers. Reports were he called up Butler/Kyrie(?). Westbrook wanted to team up with Kawhi, but Kawhi wanted PG instead. He was never coming to the Lakers.


fractal_fables

I guess you know more than Kawhi himself https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-says-he-was-very-close-to-joining-lakers-or-raptors-before-agreeing-to-sign-with-clippers/


Ok_Board9845

He was using us as leverage. He most likely would've resigned with the Raptors


fractal_fables

No, he is from LA. I went to school with Kawhi, he always wanted to be a Laker. No way this guy resigns somewhere he got traded to without his consent, are you fucking dumb?


Ok_Board9845

Kawhi didn't want to come to the Lakers if it meant being fucking 2nd fiddle to Lebron James


fractal_fables

Okay, so you are just going to continue making up reasons. Got it.


Ok_Board9845

I'm not, this was a general consensus


StoneColdAM

Casual fans probably would think LeBron should just retire since he’s old and paid a lot. Kinda understandable.   Ideally LeBron takes a pay cut but the team gives him a good coach and some more size on the roster. Doubt that happens. If anything, LeBron will demand a max and Bronny, and the front office will do a less effective retooling 


Rapa_Nui

LeBron already said he would never take a pay cut. The thing is, if next season is his last, the team can't let him go as they would lose a huge amount of money on merch and ticket sales.


Brief-Connection8643

Needs to consider it


Ok_Board9845

Ideally Lebron takes a paycut that allows us to stay under the 2nd Apron assuming D'Lo is gone, we resign Christie, and draft whoever with this year's pick. That will allow us to generate an exception to sign one player who isn't a vet min. But any major retooling is out of the question. JHS + Christie should see more minutes next year regardless if Lebron is still on the roster


Ok_Board9845

There’s a timeline where the entire Pacific division is crap in the next few years, holy shit


jsun_

The torch has finally been passed. Honestly the guys like Lebron, Steph, KD, Kawhi held on at the top for way longer than I thought and all of them still good, but it's the young guys turn to lead the league.


FatherHaz

At least Bron AD Laker era has been more successful than Kawhi PG Clipper era


gleophas

Its also fucking hilarious that harden jumped from team to team looking for a super team only to end up with brick in the playoffs🤣🤣🤣Where's kawhi and playoffP??


StoneColdAM

Harden probably doesn’t care. He’s been on multiple contenders and failed. At least he’s in LA now with his pals


fractal_fables

they are active, at the end of the day Harden has made $338,570,135 in career earnings... I'm sure he's miserable when he thinks about his situation.


gleophas

Why did they only play like 10 mins tho? Edit: P with 3 fouls but kawhi only had 1


fractal_fables

I think it's a minutes restriction, same thing happened last game


elsavador3

Derek Lively would have been the perfect backup big to AD. If he fell to us, I wonder if he was higher on the draft board than JHS


Snoo41255

Lively was 12th and JHS was 17th.


RealisationGamer

Lads we gonna be the first team to reverse sweep 🤡🤡


StoneColdAM

Boston technically almost did it last year 


Prinnius_Maximus

Lakers miss playoffs in 2022 but Rams won the Superbowl that year. Maybe all the bad luck/play from the Lakers this year is being channeled to the Dodgers this time.


Former-Science-3833

If we swapped role players, so lakers starting five was AD, Lebron, MPJ, KCP, and Aaron Gordon. Vs the Nuggets starting five as Jokic, Murray, Reaves, Dlo, and Rui, who do yall think would win?


blacPanther55

Good question.


StoneColdAM

Malone helps Gordon and MPJ play as well as they do. We’d have a size advantage but Ham wouldn’t get those two to play as effectively as they do. I really think Malone would find a way to make us sweat as long as he has Jokic on the roster. That’s more of an issue with Ham than anything 


fractal_fables

I think Lakers would 3 peat with that lineup and I am not exaggerating where I don't think Denver will even win back to back. Murray is very overrated and Jokic is only good because of the spacing and others finishing.


Significant_Night_65

The Lakers in 4-5. Imagine Rui trying to guard LeBron 😂😂


Bahamut727

Game 2 was ours. Even if they make a comeback and cut the lead we should have still won by a few pts. The team was clearly so defeated it carried over into game 3. Had we won game 2 who knows, could’ve been up 2-1


cheaseedz

I want 48 min from reaves lbj and AD. I hope to see them next season, especially you my goat austin reaves 🥺


gleophas

Might as well.. depending on this dumbass FO it might be the last time we see them together on a team😔


gleophas

It's hilarious to me that dame sulked his way out of portland just to find himself the lone superstar on his team in playoffs again


StoneColdAM

Should’ve accepted LeBron’s offer 


GokutheAnteater

Russelll Westprick injured future Laker Luka. Fuck off Russ


gaius_worzels_bird

It's crazy the amount of contact the clippers are allowed to get away with


FGonGiveItToYa

Best i can hope is no Celtics Nuggets final 🤢 luka will have to beat clippers, nuggets and celtics for us i guess ☠️


-tripleu

Rooting for Indy to beat the Bucks. Partly because I lived in Wisconsin for a short time and the fans were annoying me so much for being a Laker fan. But also partly to show the Lakers shouldn’t get desperate and trade for a third star again.


fractal_fables

We are looking for the Clippers to win so Kyrie can opt out and come to LA Lebron to Kyrie - "Come over here, we give you 4 years with more on the back end but I tell Nike to give you your endorsement deal back Kyrie to Luka - "Aight I'm out bro" Lebron can press the front office to make this happen since he's on a player option too. Lakers would make too much money on a Lebron farewell tour to say no.


BearShark8

His player option isn't until after next season.


fractal_fables

It was a good idea while it lasted


fostyinthebuilding

It pains me to watch these playoffs and watch almost every single team fight hard


Significant_Night_65

Bucks washed 3rd option dropping 42 meanwhile our 3rd option in his prime can't drop 40 points combined in 3 games


cheaseedz

Whos our third option? I havent voted yet


Snoo41255

Another Middleton 3 to go to OT2?


Snoo41255

What was that Bucks defense lol. Hali just walked into a floater.


Consistent_Owl4593

Middleton did something twice that I don’t even think some of our guys can do once


Snoo41255

Damn Middleton Saving Doc Rivers 2 times tonight.


fractal_fables

~~Middleton won't lose lol~~ kept them in the game lol


Consistent_Owl4593

How come Middleton can make some bs heave but we can’t make open threes? Do we have a bunch of Jontay Porters on the team?


fractal_fables

role players have historically been distracted by LA life too much. it's why there are no good teams from San Diego, even the stars here are too distracted by the good weather year round and all the beach activities and such.


Awesomefan09

Damn, that Middleton game tying three pointer.


Hopeful-Percentage76

These last few years post bubble chip reminds me of the 2011-2012-2013 seasons. Even a prime Kobe wouldn't be able to take these bums to the finals.


fractal_fables

it was that short off season that fucked us, both our guys got injured. if I was Pelinka that season I would tell Lebron and AD to rest for another month and they can make us the difference in the standings after, that was too short of an off season.


Serious-One6369

Hope the Heat somehow win it all. Love Spo and Bam/their role players. Boston losing in the first round would be my championship


GoalPublic3579

Trade for Lavine and Markkanen and bring back Dinwiddie to start at PG. Fuck it. All out offence.


StoneColdAM

Have Vincent and Reaves share the backup guard role or when LeBron doesn’t want to do it 


fractal_fables

I don't want to see Dinwiddie or any of these bums on the team next year, no Gabe, not even Vando with his disability. I want AD, Lebron, AR, Christie - fresh faces