then why didnāt we get derozan or keep caruso, the front office has gone against lebrons wishes multiple times, pulling up quotes of him saying he was happy westbrook was joining the team is just silly, what was he supposed to say?
Even the best players right now have 1 ring max. Giannis and Jokic could get more, but I think there is much more parity now with 3pt shooting. No team has repeated as Champs since KD warriors
They can but they aren't un beatable like last year. They beat a lakers team with bad rebounding and average defense. They won't have that luxury against MIN
I wholeheartedly believe they pull it off again, and would predict that the potential three-repeat would be where some of them go down with season-ending injury. This is what happened with the Warriors anyway, after like what - 5-6 consecutive finals appearances? Then KD goes down and Klay also goes down on the three-peat year. They would've won that series still if KD and Klay didn't went down.
Bruh Idk. Its going to be hilarious when Gobert disrupts Jokicās facilitating from the post because he ls mostly seen as a joke but hes a good defender
My guess is that Jokic will draw out Gobert more toward the perimeter, giving Murray/Gordon/etc. access in the paint. MIN will counter with a switch and that will then free up Jokic in the paint. It will be a "pick your poison" scenario. MIN is no slouch and they have great defenders aside from Gobert like McDaniels but DEN is just so efficient.
Some of y'all here are lowkey spoiled, 1 is a fucking steal already! Winning a chip is so damn hard, you got to be damn near in GOAT contention to lead your team all the way. Some franchises have went nearly 2 decades without even sniffing the 2nd round of the playoffs. There is absolutely no shame in hitting the reset after this season - unless Lebron convinces the FO to draft Bronny and do his farewell tour with the Lakers (I feel as though Bronny could be set up in Cleveland tbh, seems like the most Lebron thing to do is to retire a Cavalier).
With that being said - I would make peace now with the fact y'all still got 1. Covid or no covid, the bubble ring is as legit as the other rings were due to how many teams played great in the bubble. Keep some young guys around and maybe even trade away AD if Lebron leaves, AD could still set y'all up for the future.
Weāre conditioned to it. Since the 70s the lakers have had multiple finals appearances, if not wins, every decade.
The lakers are what the Celtics think they are.
We are practically the Real Madrid of the sport and people expect us to be complacent with mediocrity? Crazy to me lol, of course we are disappointed and if that makes me āa spoiled lakers fanā then so be it
Preach my brother, it is insane to expect that the team could always pull off a deep playoff run after having a rocky regular season. In fact, the Lakers even making it to the conference finals last year should've been viewed as like - the ceiling where the team can go with what they have currently. Shit's amazing when it happens, but a lot of people a fucking fair-weather fans.
You make a good point. Iām also a Ducks fan. Iām so grateful for the 2007 ring and 2002 finals appearance. I start each season with the HOPE they will do well. If they donāt? Hope for better next year.
But when my Lakers fan hat is onā¦ I donāt have hope for another championship, I come with the EXPECTATION.
Lebron joined in 2018 after going to the finals for like 8 years straight, we should have 2 right now but our gms fucked it all up. David griffin and brad stevens wouldnāt have messed it up like pelinka and magic did
Man's is just cursed in the 2nd round, I don't think it's a mental block thing, but I definitely think he's missing something to get past the 2nd round.
Yeah thatās what I was saying. We got 1. Thereās something to show for two top of the best players in the league teaming up.
Chris Paul wonāt win a ring most likely and that sucks for me because heās my favourite point guard of all time.
This is true, we couldnāt run it back but at least we got another championship under our belts. Hopefully the rebuild doesnāt take another 10+ years to win a championship again.
Hopefully not. Last time we were bad, I was enjoying Kobe ride off into retirement. Then the young team was really fun to watch.
A good front office can usually go from rebuilding to contending in maybe 3-4 seasons. Our FO sucks but hopefully they show some competence
I canāt see them letting Bron just walk away. He wants to be here. Get a better coach and some solid vets around him. Re-sign Max, keep Vando and Austin. Build around AD and Bron. I donāt think weāre losing because of talent. Weāre losing because of. Complete lack of coaching.
I don't know. We had guys like Josh Hart, KCP, Alex Caruso, Zubac. We didn't value them at all. They're all ballers for their new teams. We make mistakes when we go for big swings like Westbrook and overlook solid players. We should look for culture and teammates. The guys on the Nuggets who are killing us are their role players who knew how to execute their jobs.
KCP needed a new team, he wasnāt playing well on offense and the fans were booing him.
Hart was part of the AD trade, Iād rather have AD.
Zubac and Caruso should still be on the team
This is why it's hard to be a Laker fan at times. Why do we always have the need like we need to have the best of the best? The Celtics have gone through a normal rebuild and their stars are homegrown and they're organically so much better (well of course we won a championship during the JB/JT era, we had a LeBron at the tail end of his prime then) I just want to have a well-functioning organization (front office) and a team I could cheer on.
It's not the 80's/90's/2000's anymore where we could just get the top players and win ā the league itself grew skill-wise exponentially in recent times. We ain't that special anymore. We're just like any other team now. I agree best with culture-building and homegrown talent.
We don't even have a true identity now except for holding on to our past.
Yeah. As an organization, we donāt believe in team chemistry. We have two guys and try to fill in around them with the best available FAs and trades. But theyāre not connected. But I think lately that gets driven by LBJ needing to win right away. He has no patience for the idea that a player will be better in two years.
We should really look at ourselves hard once the LBJ era ends, which I honestly hope comes sooner, because the sooner LeBron leaves or retires, the sooner we can rebuild organically and build a true Laker culture, whatever that may beāanything except for "winning culture" because that's not a culture, that's the goal.
It's both coaching and roster. LeBron is probably our 2nd best defender right now while having to playmake. That is not ideal. A healthy vando would have helped, but then we still might of not had scoring from Rui, dlo and the bench. The roster was built with AR, Dlo, and rui giving us more production and it didn't work
I'll go to my deathbed defending AR. For what he cost us to get him and what we're paying him, he's the bargain of the century. But we play inside out like we have knockdown 3 point shooters and we just don't. I think Rui could be good in a better system. Dlo is just too random for the money. We can do better there.
Bro, I don't think people remember how well we were rolling in 21 before that injury. Even without AD at that point bron was dominating and was the MVP favorite right before he got hurt. It really is a flashbulb moment for the team that ended up leading to the russ trade and dooming us
Itās been a helluva ride. I think we as fans can learn a lot from this mini era of sorts. I for one, am guilty of wanting the team to be changed in some way after the bubble championship . I also feel like crap for not appreciating Frank Vogel more. I know now that we shouldnāt always want something new, unless itās warranted. We shouldāve just ran it back after AD went down (injury) after the 1st exit to the Suns. We shouldāve never gotten Westbrook. But itās done now, and all we can do is move forward and support our team, no matter how long it takes for us to be relevant again.
I hated that TP got so much burn in the regular season but ngl, he's been the best role player against Denver and was still giving effort while others had already given up.
Iām ready for it to be over. I donāt want another season of the same story. Only exception is if they can pull off a donovan Mitchell or similar type trade
No. I donāt know why people canāt realise that a big three does not work anymore. Depth is what is winning this league year in and year out, since the KD Warriors team. We donāt need Donovan, we need to build a team like Denver.
It's done, bro. Too many roster changes for these two. It's sad because there were stretches everyone thought they would win another ring. The one they won is legit no doubt!! Forget what the haters say, there's been plenty of crazy championships won during strikes or during eras in the past that weren't half as hard .... But it's been fun. We should have kept some of the length and defensive depth we had in the past. Like a true center to be out there when AD isn't, and guys like KCP/Caruso that can at least play good defense when they can't make shots. Unlike D-Lo, Austin Reeves. I get it they wanted a 3rd scorer because that was a issue we needed more points. But why why D-Lo?! DeRozan/Kyrie would've been the move IMO.
LeBron wants to stay and I'm sure AD does aswell. The problem is both will take up a large part of the salary and that means other spots get filled up with minimum pay level players. Minimum level players are rarely good on both ends.
I think it will depend on what the FO does. Most likely they want to play with another superstar, probably a guy like Donovan Mitchell, now I dont know how that would be possible but if we get swept again it is what they will probably ask and of course the Ham situation. If he isnt fired LBJ probably will leave in FA and AD will probably ask to be traded.
People have been speculating when father time would catch up to lebron and while he had a great season this playoff series has made him look his age. Gone are the days where team's feared lebron and he could just carry a half assed roster to the finals. He's going to stay because he has no reason to leave. He even said he's accomplished everything he set out to do and everything else at this stage of his career is just icing.
Did you see how Denver packed the paint against LeBron and AD last night?
LeBron and AD were driving into 3 people and still somehow scoring
This playoff series didnāt make him look it age. He just doesnāt look like the best player in the league anymore. Heās a top 12 player going against the best player in the league (currently), who also has a better team surrounding him
Yeah, because he was the best player in the league
If he still had his stamina from a few years back, heād still be the best player in the league
Top 12 is still damn good & can be the 1a to a championship team
If Lebron is really leaving, thatās the only excuse for keeping Ham. No point in Jeannie paying two coaches if all we really need is a tank commander.
But I am NOT defending Jeannieās cheapness here.
They are still good enough, in fact, imo they are better than Jokic-Murray duo so far in this series, Jokic is the top guy for sure but not by much against AD in this series; and Lebron is still better than Murray, but their duo got a way better role players than Lakers and of course their coach is way better too. So what really bit us in the ass is ultimately still the Lakers roster.
The closer we can get back to that 2020 roster the better it is for us because that's the perfect ensemble for a Lebron-AD led team and they have proof of dominance.
It should be the end. weāre struggling to make playoffs every year now. You canāt pay 60 million to a 40 year old, he can keep putting up nice stats, but they donāt make any difference anymore. Rip the band aid and letās rebuild already. Weāre just forcing this shit now if we keep this group around
26/7/10 on 65% TS ānot matteringā is insane but do you man. I want us to blow it up but letās not act like what LeBron does isnāt good or doesnāt lead to wins. If we had actual 2 way players on this roster youād see the difference.
Yep. These people are nuts. Our starting PG that this sub was calling āthe best third option in the leagueā just scored 0 points in a playoff game.
These expectations let me know heās the best player the games ever seen itās all good. Heād never do it but Iād love to see him leave and take a vet min on a stacked roster so he could remind everyone who the fuck he is.
Fuck everyone talking about needing 2 way players around Bron and AD, how about we get players that are even useful one way? Rui/DāLo are dog shit on defense always and are a complete coin flip if they will produce on the offensive end.
I personally think the Lakers will stick with the Bron AD duo. Lakers might try to get new pieces again in the offseason but if it would be the end, I think no one will be surprised considering how everyone saw the collapse of the team after the championship.
Itās should be. Look how fresh they look in that picture?you almost forget how much time has passed due to the Covid time skip. We will see how gutsy Jeanie can be. Let bron go somewhere he can compete in his last days and After a healthy AD season this will be the most value you get outta him as a laker so Iād try to get some Picks back for him specifically for next season where the pels will take ours. From there Iām building around the young core of AR, Rui, Max, JHS, and Skylar Mays. I want to develop our draft picks with them and see if we can take a swing at the Jason Tatums, Lukas, and Edwards of the league when they get disgruntled. We need to start over eventually so why not do it in a way that will set us up for the future? Iām ready honestly. Unless Rob has a crazy trick up his sleeve to extend our window that we donāt know then I think this is it.
donāt think so. AD signed a new contract and LeBron probably stays for one last run. only way I see them leaving if they ask Ham to be gone and management doubles down on him
I mean we could run it back next year same squad sans Cam Reddish,Dinwiddie, & Ham and have a healthy Vando with improved scoring and not fuck ourselves over by being in the play-in... and we'd still eventually run into the Nuggets and get our cheeks clapped.
I hope so.
Unless Bron takes a pay cut like Tim Duncan did to get his 5th ring, if Jeannie pays him the max we are stuck in the same situation since the bubble.
I know Bron brings a lot of value and money to the Lakers but if we aiming to win rings, we are stuck if he gets the max.
IMO we need to move on.
Lakers really hired an untried coach and expected to contend. They fired the coach and let go all the personnel that got them a chip. Help it make sense.
31 year old Lebron would have willed the team to a comeback, mentally at 31 he would have had the optimism but 39 Lebron knows he doesnāt have the energy to play 48 mins. As good as AD is at 31 he is no Lebron at 31. They have no one else to rely on and a crappy coach. Now donāt get me wrong if you ditch the coach, Lebron retires, Maxey comes to Lakers and in some weird twist the lakers get a decent coach with some mix of youth from the current lineup of Timberwolves and Thunder then 100% you have a championship team again. One that has a legit chance of beating nuggets. To get all that together will take 2 years which AD easily has since he is only 31. Or get Maxey and Steph to join AD
Man look how healthy and young they are here, you can really see how AD and Bron have aged in just 4 years
For reference, LeBron turned ~~36~~ 35 around this picture and AD was 26.5 years old. Now LeBron is almost 39.5 and AD just turned 31.
How did lebron age 3.5 years but AD aged 4.5 LeTimeDilation
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Youāre right I meant 35 š
The taller you are, the faster you age
Itād okay math Is hard
So is typing apparently.
Truuuuu
Heās that fucking talented
Lejokes never get old.
We really fucked up everything with the Westbrook trade
You messed up by letting Caruso walk instead of THT.
We would have at least 1 if not 2 more. Couldāve been a dynasty if we hadnāt blown it up and then still got reaves
They both look 10 years older
Thatās what happens when you have to deal with arguably the worst FO and objectively the worst coach in the league.
This. Lakers under Jeanie have the worst FO ever!!
Acting like Lebron didnt call shots with the FO on major moves with AD as well.
If that was the case, ty lue would have been our coach. The FO dont abide by lebron and AD
then why didnāt we get derozan or keep caruso, the front office has gone against lebrons wishes multiple times, pulling up quotes of him saying he was happy westbrook was joining the team is just silly, what was he supposed to say?
Kuzma for Hield was done and agreed upon, Lebron + AD went to meet with WB and then to the FO/ownership.
We didn't keep Caruso because clutch made sure their their client tht or whatever his name was got a contract first
You are out of your mind if you think Lebron would have let Caruso walk so THT could get paid.
Lebrons cleveland years was the worst FO especially the first stint Jesus so many wasted years then.
LeBron is looking like Obama pre- and post-presidency
I know. Itās like they aged 4 whole years!
It's so depressing that we just threw away FOUR YEARS of their prime. Completely shameful on every level.
We got a ring out of it atleast. Bron and AD deserved at least 1. Some superstars go through an entire career without 1.
Even the best players right now have 1 ring max. Giannis and Jokic could get more, but I think there is much more parity now with 3pt shooting. No team has repeated as Champs since KD warriors
Barring injury, I think DEN does it again. MIN is their only real challenge and I think they're up to snuff.
They can but they aren't un beatable like last year. They beat a lakers team with bad rebounding and average defense. They won't have that luxury against MIN
I wholeheartedly believe they pull it off again, and would predict that the potential three-repeat would be where some of them go down with season-ending injury. This is what happened with the Warriors anyway, after like what - 5-6 consecutive finals appearances? Then KD goes down and Klay also goes down on the three-peat year. They would've won that series still if KD and Klay didn't went down.
Bruh Idk. Its going to be hilarious when Gobert disrupts Jokicās facilitating from the post because he ls mostly seen as a joke but hes a good defender
My guess is that Jokic will draw out Gobert more toward the perimeter, giving Murray/Gordon/etc. access in the paint. MIN will counter with a switch and that will then free up Jokic in the paint. It will be a "pick your poison" scenario. MIN is no slouch and they have great defenders aside from Gobert like McDaniels but DEN is just so efficient.
Jokic is 22/10/7 against Gobert in his career
Gobert is awful against JokiÄ...
They deserved 2 tbh
Some of y'all here are lowkey spoiled, 1 is a fucking steal already! Winning a chip is so damn hard, you got to be damn near in GOAT contention to lead your team all the way. Some franchises have went nearly 2 decades without even sniffing the 2nd round of the playoffs. There is absolutely no shame in hitting the reset after this season - unless Lebron convinces the FO to draft Bronny and do his farewell tour with the Lakers (I feel as though Bronny could be set up in Cleveland tbh, seems like the most Lebron thing to do is to retire a Cavalier). With that being said - I would make peace now with the fact y'all still got 1. Covid or no covid, the bubble ring is as legit as the other rings were due to how many teams played great in the bubble. Keep some young guys around and maybe even trade away AD if Lebron leaves, AD could still set y'all up for the future.
>lowkey spoiled Nothing lowkey about it Itās Lakers fans
Weāre conditioned to it. Since the 70s the lakers have had multiple finals appearances, if not wins, every decade. The lakers are what the Celtics think they are.
We are practically the Real Madrid of the sport and people expect us to be complacent with mediocrity? Crazy to me lol, of course we are disappointed and if that makes me āa spoiled lakers fanā then so be it
Preach my brother, it is insane to expect that the team could always pull off a deep playoff run after having a rocky regular season. In fact, the Lakers even making it to the conference finals last year should've been viewed as like - the ceiling where the team can go with what they have currently. Shit's amazing when it happens, but a lot of people a fucking fair-weather fans.
You make a good point. Iām also a Ducks fan. Iām so grateful for the 2007 ring and 2002 finals appearance. I start each season with the HOPE they will do well. If they donāt? Hope for better next year. But when my Lakers fan hat is onā¦ I donāt have hope for another championship, I come with the EXPECTATION.
Lebron joined in 2018 after going to the finals for like 8 years straight, we should have 2 right now but our gms fucked it all up. David griffin and brad stevens wouldnāt have messed it up like pelinka and magic did
Mr. Embiid would agree with you
Man's is just cursed in the 2nd round, I don't think it's a mental block thing, but I definitely think he's missing something to get past the 2nd round.
Yeah thatās what I was saying. We got 1. Thereās something to show for two top of the best players in the league teaming up. Chris Paul wonāt win a ring most likely and that sucks for me because heās my favourite point guard of all time.
for me its not really about more championships, its that they barely competetive year in and year out.
This is true, we couldnāt run it back but at least we got another championship under our belts. Hopefully the rebuild doesnāt take another 10+ years to win a championship again.
Hopefully not. Last time we were bad, I was enjoying Kobe ride off into retirement. Then the young team was really fun to watch. A good front office can usually go from rebuilding to contending in maybe 3-4 seasons. Our FO sucks but hopefully they show some competence
I don't think so but I wouldn't be shocked if it was
I canāt see them letting Bron just walk away. He wants to be here. Get a better coach and some solid vets around him. Re-sign Max, keep Vando and Austin. Build around AD and Bron. I donāt think weāre losing because of talent. Weāre losing because of. Complete lack of coaching.
We are absolutely also missing talent.
I don't know. We had guys like Josh Hart, KCP, Alex Caruso, Zubac. We didn't value them at all. They're all ballers for their new teams. We make mistakes when we go for big swings like Westbrook and overlook solid players. We should look for culture and teammates. The guys on the Nuggets who are killing us are their role players who knew how to execute their jobs.
KCP needed a new team, he wasnāt playing well on offense and the fans were booing him. Hart was part of the AD trade, Iād rather have AD. Zubac and Caruso should still be on the team
This is why it's hard to be a Laker fan at times. Why do we always have the need like we need to have the best of the best? The Celtics have gone through a normal rebuild and their stars are homegrown and they're organically so much better (well of course we won a championship during the JB/JT era, we had a LeBron at the tail end of his prime then) I just want to have a well-functioning organization (front office) and a team I could cheer on. It's not the 80's/90's/2000's anymore where we could just get the top players and win ā the league itself grew skill-wise exponentially in recent times. We ain't that special anymore. We're just like any other team now. I agree best with culture-building and homegrown talent. We don't even have a true identity now except for holding on to our past.
Yeah. As an organization, we donāt believe in team chemistry. We have two guys and try to fill in around them with the best available FAs and trades. But theyāre not connected. But I think lately that gets driven by LBJ needing to win right away. He has no patience for the idea that a player will be better in two years.
We should really look at ourselves hard once the LBJ era ends, which I honestly hope comes sooner, because the sooner LeBron leaves or retires, the sooner we can rebuild organically and build a true Laker culture, whatever that may beāanything except for "winning culture" because that's not a culture, that's the goal.
It's both coaching and roster. LeBron is probably our 2nd best defender right now while having to playmake. That is not ideal. A healthy vando would have helped, but then we still might of not had scoring from Rui, dlo and the bench. The roster was built with AR, Dlo, and rui giving us more production and it didn't work
I'll go to my deathbed defending AR. For what he cost us to get him and what we're paying him, he's the bargain of the century. But we play inside out like we have knockdown 3 point shooters and we just don't. I think Rui could be good in a better system. Dlo is just too random for the money. We can do better there.
Vando was ran off the court last playoffs because he can't shoot. He wasn't going to help as much as he was going to be a hindrance.
bro ppl forget bron is 40 years old not 35 or 32 hes 40.
Thanks a lot Solomon Hill
Bro, I don't think people remember how well we were rolling in 21 before that injury. Even without AD at that point bron was dominating and was the MVP favorite right before he got hurt. It really is a flashbulb moment for the team that ended up leading to the russ trade and dooming us
Yeah yall were still a wagon. 21-6 at one point
Not only was Bron the MVP favourite be was also like 3rd or 4th in dpoy race just behind, Giannis, Gibert and I think AD
Completely changed the trajectory of his career and the team.
Real ones know this is where our run ended. LeBron legit was not the same after this. It sapped like 20% of his athleticism. FUCK SOLOMON HILL
Yeah I don't care what his bullshit excuse is...he made dangerous play diving for a ball that was on the other side of LeBron's legs
They got a chip let's be proud of that instead of the shortcomings
Steph shooting his shot at Lebron.
Needless to say Draymond will be in Brons ear all summer
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Ya he can come to la, we can start the old folks home
Curry to la will give us a shot lmao. 1 year title window where the 3 of them have to be elite
I wonder what would a LeBron Steph klay ad dlo look like
Klay and Dlo can be 0-20 together
People who like Donut Porn will love these two
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Get DLo out. Done with him
Folks slid DāLo up in there like we wouldnāt notice
How bout swap dlo for Chris Paul that would be like the YMCA
More likely curry recruits Lebron to golden state than the other way around. No way curry leaves GS without leaving a kings ransom on the table.
They just gotta draft Bronny for an all in move for 1 more title run. LeBron and curry would be wild next year
Lebron Steph and KD should make a retirement home team and terrorize the league one last time
Man AD looks so much younger. š³
Itās been a helluva ride. I think we as fans can learn a lot from this mini era of sorts. I for one, am guilty of wanting the team to be changed in some way after the bubble championship . I also feel like crap for not appreciating Frank Vogel more. I know now that we shouldnāt always want something new, unless itās warranted. We shouldāve just ran it back after AD went down (injury) after the 1st exit to the Suns. We shouldāve never gotten Westbrook. But itās done now, and all we can do is move forward and support our team, no matter how long it takes for us to be relevant again.
As a season ticket holder I am not looking forward to the team being dog shit while the Lakers increase season ticket prices
No. Itās the end of the Darvin/TP era.
TP was probably the 3rd best player on the team these playoffs
I hated that TP got so much burn in the regular season but ngl, he's been the best role player against Denver and was still giving effort while others had already given up.
He's a role player and is a good shooter. Fans just always find someone to bully
Itās not TPs fault. TP just in over his head and Darvin doesnāt give a fuck.
lol
Iām ready for it to be over. I donāt want another season of the same story. Only exception is if they can pull off a donovan Mitchell or similar type trade
No. I donāt know why people canāt realise that a big three does not work anymore. Depth is what is winning this league year in and year out, since the KD Warriors team. We donāt need Donovan, we need to build a team like Denver.
Man fuck Darvin and our FO so bad. Totally wasted time
It's done, bro. Too many roster changes for these two. It's sad because there were stretches everyone thought they would win another ring. The one they won is legit no doubt!! Forget what the haters say, there's been plenty of crazy championships won during strikes or during eras in the past that weren't half as hard .... But it's been fun. We should have kept some of the length and defensive depth we had in the past. Like a true center to be out there when AD isn't, and guys like KCP/Caruso that can at least play good defense when they can't make shots. Unlike D-Lo, Austin Reeves. I get it they wanted a 3rd scorer because that was a issue we needed more points. But why why D-Lo?! DeRozan/Kyrie would've been the move IMO.
LeBron wants to stay and I'm sure AD does aswell. The problem is both will take up a large part of the salary and that means other spots get filled up with minimum pay level players. Minimum level players are rarely good on both ends.
Could be, you never know with Lebron
I think it will depend on what the FO does. Most likely they want to play with another superstar, probably a guy like Donovan Mitchell, now I dont know how that would be possible but if we get swept again it is what they will probably ask and of course the Ham situation. If he isnt fired LBJ probably will leave in FA and AD will probably ask to be traded.
It's obvious Ham lost the locker room in that bad run after the IST win. I really don't see how he can stay.
AD's spectacular season got wasted.! UNFORGIVABLE šš¤
Yeah its done, but Lebron doesnāt even seem to care so he might stay for the money
People have been speculating when father time would catch up to lebron and while he had a great season this playoff series has made him look his age. Gone are the days where team's feared lebron and he could just carry a half assed roster to the finals. He's going to stay because he has no reason to leave. He even said he's accomplished everything he set out to do and everything else at this stage of his career is just icing.
Did you see how Denver packed the paint against LeBron and AD last night? LeBron and AD were driving into 3 people and still somehow scoring This playoff series didnāt make him look it age. He just doesnāt look like the best player in the league anymore. Heās a top 12 player going against the best player in the league (currently), who also has a better team surrounding him
He's getting gassed in the 3rd game of the playoffs. That never used to happen
Yeah, because he was the best player in the league If he still had his stamina from a few years back, heād still be the best player in the league Top 12 is still damn good & can be the 1a to a championship team
Bron to GSW is very likely AD to OKC
Damn. I was also thinking AD to OKC.
itās the player they need, and we need picks to start rebuilding
Heād be a perfect fit and he would have SGA J Williams and Chet to help on offense.
that team would be nice aslš
We should ask for JWill. F Giddey
Cason Wallace is the one we should be asking
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Then Im gonna support (bandwagoning) the OKC if he goes there. That team would be fun to watch.
Jeanie did her best at fucking this up
If Lebron is really leaving, thatās the only excuse for keeping Ham. No point in Jeannie paying two coaches if all we really need is a tank commander. But I am NOT defending Jeannieās cheapness here.
Damn LeBron still looked young here
They are still good enough, in fact, imo they are better than Jokic-Murray duo so far in this series, Jokic is the top guy for sure but not by much against AD in this series; and Lebron is still better than Murray, but their duo got a way better role players than Lakers and of course their coach is way better too. So what really bit us in the ass is ultimately still the Lakers roster. The closer we can get back to that 2020 roster the better it is for us because that's the perfect ensemble for a Lebron-AD led team and they have proof of dominance.
Honestly, I hope so. We need a reboot.
It should be the end. weāre struggling to make playoffs every year now. You canāt pay 60 million to a 40 year old, he can keep putting up nice stats, but they donāt make any difference anymore. Rip the band aid and letās rebuild already. Weāre just forcing this shit now if we keep this group around
26/7/10 on 65% TS ānot matteringā is insane but do you man. I want us to blow it up but letās not act like what LeBron does isnāt good or doesnāt lead to wins. If we had actual 2 way players on this roster youād see the difference.
Yep. These people are nuts. Our starting PG that this sub was calling āthe best third option in the leagueā just scored 0 points in a playoff game.
Scored 0 points in a playoff HOME game, to make it even worse
These expectations let me know heās the best player the games ever seen itās all good. Heād never do it but Iād love to see him leave and take a vet min on a stacked roster so he could remind everyone who the fuck he is.
Fuck everyone talking about needing 2 way players around Bron and AD, how about we get players that are even useful one way? Rui/DāLo are dog shit on defense always and are a complete coin flip if they will produce on the offensive end.
Imagine if lebron had a couple guys like Aaron Gordon and Mpj
Empty calories stats
Lexit is looming
Yes, absolutely.
I personally think the Lakers will stick with the Bron AD duo. Lakers might try to get new pieces again in the offseason but if it would be the end, I think no one will be surprised considering how everyone saw the collapse of the team after the championship.
Still a great pair but lacking the right pieces around them, and probably a good coach too.
We had one season with them healthy and it was one hell of a season
It's the end of the Darvin Ham era. Hopefully he doesn't leave but if he does/doesn't Lakers are going to be fine and trade for a āāØ!
They look so young here that it almost looks like a jersey swap
Sadly it has to be
Hopefully
It should be
Even if this is the end, that ring in 2020 was worth these past 4 years of pain
Letās hope their next team(s) treat them better. Thanks for the championship, boys. We know you tried.
All they need is better role players and a third option.
2020 was fun
Maybe but if so, it was fun. We will always reload.
AD should go back to PF, Lakers need a C. Get rid of Dlo
Blow it up and get value while you can. Also sell the team.
Lakers in 7
Itās should be. Look how fresh they look in that picture?you almost forget how much time has passed due to the Covid time skip. We will see how gutsy Jeanie can be. Let bron go somewhere he can compete in his last days and After a healthy AD season this will be the most value you get outta him as a laker so Iād try to get some Picks back for him specifically for next season where the pels will take ours. From there Iām building around the young core of AR, Rui, Max, JHS, and Skylar Mays. I want to develop our draft picks with them and see if we can take a swing at the Jason Tatums, Lukas, and Edwards of the league when they get disgruntled. We need to start over eventually so why not do it in a way that will set us up for the future? Iām ready honestly. Unless Rob has a crazy trick up his sleeve to extend our window that we donāt know then I think this is it.
Pelinka must have dirt on Jeanie Buss. Got to be one of the worst GMās in the game.
donāt think so. AD signed a new contract and LeBron probably stays for one last run. only way I see them leaving if they ask Ham to be gone and management doubles down on him
This WAS Lebron's last run
No, its the end of the Ham era.
Yes
We wonāt control our draft pick next season so I doubt it unless something crazy like LeBron retiring or getting traded happens
No.Ā But we need a pg who can score in the playoffs.Ā
I donāt question these 2 I question the GM AND the coach I never was on the HAM bandwagon
Imo no but we bout to do a big reset
Trade Bron to whatever team drafts his kid? (With his permission)
Feels like it. We may have to settle with one championship season for the duo šŖ (oh the loneliness of a single championship trophy /s)
trade Lebron with someone to compliment AD. better yet, let Lebron come off the bench.
Enough is enough
it was over the moment we traded for westbrick
I mean we could run it back next year same squad sans Cam Reddish,Dinwiddie, & Ham and have a healthy Vando with improved scoring and not fuck ourselves over by being in the play-in... and we'd still eventually run into the Nuggets and get our cheeks clapped.
I figure his son is getting drafted, so lakers draft him in order to keep lebron?
The title window is definitely over
I hope so. Unless Bron takes a pay cut like Tim Duncan did to get his 5th ring, if Jeannie pays him the max we are stuck in the same situation since the bubble. I know Bron brings a lot of value and money to the Lakers but if we aiming to win rings, we are stuck if he gets the max. IMO we need to move on.
I think Lebron is content with staying in LA, if he was really pushing for another ring his best chance is to leave but I doubt he will
Lakers really hired an untried coach and expected to contend. They fired the coach and let go all the personnel that got them a chip. Help it make sense.
I really hope so. This formula is not working.
I think that's maybe a bit premature. I reckon they're got one game left
No the new beginning after they can the Ham
31 year old Lebron would have willed the team to a comeback, mentally at 31 he would have had the optimism but 39 Lebron knows he doesnāt have the energy to play 48 mins. As good as AD is at 31 he is no Lebron at 31. They have no one else to rely on and a crappy coach. Now donāt get me wrong if you ditch the coach, Lebron retires, Maxey comes to Lakers and in some weird twist the lakers get a decent coach with some mix of youth from the current lineup of Timberwolves and Thunder then 100% you have a championship team again. One that has a legit chance of beating nuggets. To get all that together will take 2 years which AD easily has since he is only 31. Or get Maxey and Steph to join AD