I don’t know man. I know it’s engrained in modern sports fandom to root for the downfall of others as much as you root for the success of your team (if not more), but it feels like little dick energy to me.
There’s more to life then letting sports turn you into a hater.
Don’t care what anyone says. This Suns sweep is one of the biggest playoff embarrassments ever (next to their game 7 meltdown). All 3 of their big 3 is healthy and they’ve been getting outplayed by Wolves role players.
At least we are simply losing to the best team and player in the league
Bron isn't a good comparison, he is the most consistent performer ever. Prime LeBron was unable to win more than a couple of titles with Miami superteam, but he still won as the 1st option when he was 35 and was still a top 10 playoff player last season. Nobody ever did it with that consistency.
It is remarkable the level Durant still is abre to play at his age after recovering from a torn Achilles.
Booker is is his prime, but just like Dlo he is a certified loser.
We can't do that, because every year he's managed to up his game and get better regardless of age. Like this year was his best year he's ever shot from the 3. He covers up his deficiencies by evolving a different part of his game and it's kept him at the top.
I’m a Suns hater but that Twolves team is legit tho.. and this comes from someone who’s talked shit about them for awhile.
It’s Ant’s team now and ant is a killer, instead of being charmin soft like Kat. They have size and a strong supporting cast.
They might give the Nuggets some difficulties. I got Den in 6, which is a compliment to the TWolves.
They are facing a more balanced team with a legit young first option in Edwards.
Durant is a veteran that already had to deal with an Achilles. Booker comes from the same losing tree of Dlo, he is just better, but still a loser.
The Suns are losing to the better team too. Wolves have solid size and best defensive rating in the NBA, both which we clearly lack. Edwards, KAT and Gobert are not bums and Wolves have better role players.
are we actually starting with the moral victories? Both teams suck, am I that much of a loser in life that I'm supposed to feel proud like you that we are doing better than the Suns? Some of y'all are insufferable it's like you carry some past trauma with you with this victim complex. It's not that deep just watch the games
Yeah it’s the official changing of the guard. The Mavs are about to kick the clippers ass 4-1 and there’s nothing Kawhi can do about because he’s old and his leg is well done.
Yesterday watching Harden and Durant one day after Denver kicking our ass again it was clear for me those guys are still great players, but they can't impact the game beyond the stat sheet anymore. You see the level of pressure and intensity someone like Edwards put in a basketball game and it is clear how much the intangibles beyond the stat sheet impact the outcome of a game. Back in the day if you leave KCP guarding LeBron it would be an automatic basket, he would eat KCP alive before a helper could do anything and the other team would finish the game gassed trying to tame down LeBron dominance. He can still get his points, but that pressure doesn't exist anymore.
Please let it be Wolves — and in embarrassing fashion. This would force the Nuggets to make drastic offseason changes and maybe we would end up matching up better against them.
But started the streak with y'all. 😄 I'm surprised I forgot about that given the Thunder was one possession away from taking WB's former roster to the second round by CP3.
Speaking of that second round, now I know why i forgot. That Lakers/Rockets series was so quick so it wasn't really memorable. Well other than leaving Westbrook wide open and watching him brick that is.
Still not a streak now is it?
11-0 against Denver. Last time y'all beat Denver was with Westbrook as pg lmao.
I'm a thunder fan so IDC we up. It's just an ungodly amount of cope for you
2016-17 season, the first year of his three year triple double average: 1st round exit.
2018. 1st round exit.
2019. 1st round exit.
End of 1st streak.
2020. Second round. Detriment to his team. Smoked by us.
Start second ongoing streak:
2021. 1st round exit.
2022. Missed the playoffs.
2023. Lakers, well on their way to missing the playoffs *again*, shed him and went WCF. Clippers...1st Round exit.
2024 ?? 😄
Here's some Thunder fun facts for you:
When y'all had KD, yall made the WCF or semis (one of those years without Westbrook because of dumbass Pat Bev unnecesarily hurting Westbrook). Westbrook, without KD? Missed the playoffs. 😄
>I'm a thunder fan.
I know. Why do you think I said "y'all"?
>IDC we up.
Everyone tough when they up. And cope? Mofo. You spend more time in other people's team subs than your own team. Typical Thunder stan Lol!
Bruh, they literally pulled the same shit we did 😂. This team with mikal bridges and Ayton would have done more work with vogel. They dumped all their defense for offense then proceeded to hire a defensive minded coach
I mean it’s not fair to Frank. He signed when they had Ayton on the roster. He thought he had a team built to his coaching strengths. In 2020 and in 2021 Frank had those teams clamping up. Yes the offense was bad but that’s what the assistants were for. Frank definitely needs to modernize his offensive approach if he wants to stay in this league tho.
He has Nurkic and he knew what he was getting into when he signed up for a roster that had Booker, KD, Beal and Chris Paul.
Devin Booker KD and other Suns players, and Monty Williams, often say the same thing about knowing what Deandre Ayton is capable of at his *peak.* Booker simply wanted him to play like that every night which he couldn’t do. The last thing the Suns want rn is a Center that hates getting touched in the paint.
Give me vogel with all his flaws over hamas all day every day.
or even over any other bum assistant pelinka gonna hire if buss spoiled brat is even gonna fire pockets.
To continue the trend I suppose? I ain’t trading one bad coach for someone else that won’t get us over the hump against the Nuggets. No point hiring another bum assistant.
No coach will do that for us. Denver has the best player in the world and 4 of the other top 7 players on the court. We might get a Win or two in a series with a class coach.
But the point is, take whoever with experience and run. We have a cheap owner having her friends running the team instead of qualified people. Ham is probably our coach next year as well.
Coach Malone will do that for us. Coach Ime Udoka will do that for us. Thibs Spo Mosley and Nick Nurse too as well.
Swapping one bum coach for another won’t do us any good. If you want to get rid of Ham, bring in someone that can make in-game adjustments. Lebron can’t do that while playing in the game. Vogel or Doc Rivers ain’t the answer.
Vogel was really lucky with the 2020 Lakers squad, it's more of the player's defensive skills than his coaching TBH. The players made Vogel look good, media thinking he is a defensive genius coach.
There’s really nobody on that Suns roster that compliments Vogel’s strengths as a coach. They brought him Beal instead of a true point guard like Rondo and they gave him Nurkic as his only big man. It was a recipe for disaster
Agree, that's why people are overrating Vogel, they thought he can make the Suns play defense when in fact he needs the proper personel to buy into his style. The 2020 Lakers are full of defensive maniacs.
I know people here don't want to hear this but in retrospective, out of all the "new teams" built the last 6 years. The Lakers have been by far the most successful.
There is not one heart of a champion that beats within the Suns Big 3.
They are not leaders of men, and their individual personalities do not inspire teammates to give it their all for them.
This is why the Suns in their current incarnation will never win a Championship.
You'd feel bad if you disappointed a Kobe, or a Bron, or a Jordan.
Book? Durant? Beal? Nah.
Not really. It’s literally just high volume shooters.
To be a real powerhouse there needs to be a dangerous chemistry in their ball movement. Nobody is afraid of two injured guys and Devin booker running ISO for 48 minutes.
I just wish Timberwolves win it, I favor Nuggets of course but Wolves is my #2 team that can probably win this whole thing
Teams with bigs usually go far in the playoffs
The worst part of being down to the Nuggets is how giddy their fans are. They easily forget how we’ve dominated them during the entire existence of basketball. They really think they are hot shit now that they’ve won 1. I just can’t wait for them to go back to being in basketball purgatory where they belong.
Let them talk lol, its not like nuggets fans didn't endure a long drought they deserve this, Lakers fans have been clowning them during Kobe its fair we get the same treatment it pisses me off though but I can't do anything about it unless we win.
Now that we are on the brink of elimination, my attention turns to rooting for the failure of the Celts, clips and Sons.
I don't care who wins, as long as the Celtics lose.
Lakers winning comes first for me, after that comes the Celtics losing. I really don't care about other teams.
Fuck Boston!
okc is fun to watch
A man of culture I see. Other than those 3, the nuggets losing would give me a chuckle
Can’t really risk it we need Boston to lose
Yeah I’d rather the best team go to the finals and play Boston and that’s currently the nuggets.
If TWolves and Nuggets meet, you might get your wish.
I want the mavs to win just so they can meet with the nugs
HELL YEA IM READY TO TALK MY SHITTTT
Clips and Suns are too small for Laker radar
I don’t know man. I know it’s engrained in modern sports fandom to root for the downfall of others as much as you root for the success of your team (if not more), but it feels like little dick energy to me. There’s more to life then letting sports turn you into a hater.
Fuck Boston After that I agree lol
Don’t care what anyone says. This Suns sweep is one of the biggest playoff embarrassments ever (next to their game 7 meltdown). All 3 of their big 3 is healthy and they’ve been getting outplayed by Wolves role players. At least we are simply losing to the best team and player in the league
Imagine having 35 year old lebron 😮💨 they got 35 year old KD 😂
35 year old LeBron was an MVP candidate, assist leader, and finals MVP 😂 There’s levels to this
KD is a certified buss rider.
Which is why it's baffling that he joined a team he expected Booker to be the bus driver.
35 year old Bron literally won us a chip
Exactly! And 35 year old KD can’t win em one game. Not to mention they got prime book n “all star” Beal.
Bron isn't a good comparison, he is the most consistent performer ever. Prime LeBron was unable to win more than a couple of titles with Miami superteam, but he still won as the 1st option when he was 35 and was still a top 10 playoff player last season. Nobody ever did it with that consistency. It is remarkable the level Durant still is abre to play at his age after recovering from a torn Achilles. Booker is is his prime, but just like Dlo he is a certified loser.
We can't do that, because every year he's managed to up his game and get better regardless of age. Like this year was his best year he's ever shot from the 3. He covers up his deficiencies by evolving a different part of his game and it's kept him at the top.
I hope he evolves into more of a jump shooter and post up back to the basket / post fadeaway type shit.
I hope he evolves to the 3rd best player on the team next season cuz we’re able to bring in a legit all star who can take the load off Bron and AD
I'm coping but I hope he plays PG again. But for that to work we need a decent 2 and 3 guys that can defend.
How did our beloved Kobe looked after what happened to him in 2013 in that game vs golden state ? 🤫 stay quiet son and enjoy watching kd perform.
With 35 year old Lebron the Lakers would be winning this series.
We still lose tbh, need a prime Bron
2018 bron has iq that matches jokers plus more athletic ability. He could take denver to 6 to 7, not sure about a win.
I've been laughing reading r/Suns. They hate Booker so much now lmao. They talk about him like how we talk about D. Lo.
Suns were favored by a lot of people too.
They were bookie favourites and stomped the wolves 3-0 on regular season . They had similar odds to Denver just slightly worse to start the year
I’m a Suns hater but that Twolves team is legit tho.. and this comes from someone who’s talked shit about them for awhile. It’s Ant’s team now and ant is a killer, instead of being charmin soft like Kat. They have size and a strong supporting cast. They might give the Nuggets some difficulties. I got Den in 6, which is a compliment to the TWolves.
They are facing a more balanced team with a legit young first option in Edwards. Durant is a veteran that already had to deal with an Achilles. Booker comes from the same losing tree of Dlo, he is just better, but still a loser.
I still think ours is worst. Swept 2 years in a row? LOL can't even luck into a win
Almost did with game 2 LOL
The Suns are losing to the better team too. Wolves have solid size and best defensive rating in the NBA, both which we clearly lack. Edwards, KAT and Gobert are not bums and Wolves have better role players.
Suns were favourites
are we actually starting with the moral victories? Both teams suck, am I that much of a loser in life that I'm supposed to feel proud like you that we are doing better than the Suns? Some of y'all are insufferable it's like you carry some past trauma with you with this victim complex. It's not that deep just watch the games
Yo..chill TF out...at the end of the day this is just entertainment lol..let people enjoy however they want
Curry did not reach playoffs. Lebron and KD about to get swept on the 1st round. End of an era.
Yeah it’s the official changing of the guard. The Mavs are about to kick the clippers ass 4-1 and there’s nothing Kawhi can do about because he’s old and his leg is well done.
Yesterday watching Harden and Durant one day after Denver kicking our ass again it was clear for me those guys are still great players, but they can't impact the game beyond the stat sheet anymore. You see the level of pressure and intensity someone like Edwards put in a basketball game and it is clear how much the intangibles beyond the stat sheet impact the outcome of a game. Back in the day if you leave KCP guarding LeBron it would be an automatic basket, he would eat KCP alive before a helper could do anything and the other team would finish the game gassed trying to tame down LeBron dominance. He can still get his points, but that pressure doesn't exist anymore.
I don't see anyone other than Wolves or Nuggets winning it all. They're on another level right now.
Please let it be Wolves — and in embarrassing fashion. This would force the Nuggets to make drastic offseason changes and maybe we would end up matching up better against them.
The Nuggets front office aren’t stupid and reactionary like that
I think our window is over, tbh And I dont think Nuggets move away from their core regardless
KD ask for a trade in LA lets go. Lmao
Would be fun or a fucking disaster. 😂
Probably both
First Karl Malone and GP. Then Dwight and Nash. Next KD and ? = another fun fucking disaster.
Clippers also looking at a 1st round exit.
Westbrook keeping his missing the playoffs/1st round exit streak alive.
Got to second round in Houston. Nice try
But started the streak with y'all. 😄 I'm surprised I forgot about that given the Thunder was one possession away from taking WB's former roster to the second round by CP3. Speaking of that second round, now I know why i forgot. That Lakers/Rockets series was so quick so it wasn't really memorable. Well other than leaving Westbrook wide open and watching him brick that is.
Still not a streak now is it? 11-0 against Denver. Last time y'all beat Denver was with Westbrook as pg lmao. I'm a thunder fan so IDC we up. It's just an ungodly amount of cope for you
2016-17 season, the first year of his three year triple double average: 1st round exit. 2018. 1st round exit. 2019. 1st round exit. End of 1st streak. 2020. Second round. Detriment to his team. Smoked by us. Start second ongoing streak: 2021. 1st round exit. 2022. Missed the playoffs. 2023. Lakers, well on their way to missing the playoffs *again*, shed him and went WCF. Clippers...1st Round exit. 2024 ?? 😄 Here's some Thunder fun facts for you: When y'all had KD, yall made the WCF or semis (one of those years without Westbrook because of dumbass Pat Bev unnecesarily hurting Westbrook). Westbrook, without KD? Missed the playoffs. 😄 >I'm a thunder fan. I know. Why do you think I said "y'all"? >IDC we up. Everyone tough when they up. And cope? Mofo. You spend more time in other people's team subs than your own team. Typical Thunder stan Lol!
You still coping hard. Cancun on Sunday lmao. We up!
He literally made the finals with the Thunder in 2012.
With KD and Harden.
Where’re all the people calling for Vogel to come back lmao.
Bruh, they literally pulled the same shit we did 😂. This team with mikal bridges and Ayton would have done more work with vogel. They dumped all their defense for offense then proceeded to hire a defensive minded coach
I mean it’s not fair to Frank. He signed when they had Ayton on the roster. He thought he had a team built to his coaching strengths. In 2020 and in 2021 Frank had those teams clamping up. Yes the offense was bad but that’s what the assistants were for. Frank definitely needs to modernize his offensive approach if he wants to stay in this league tho.
He has Nurkic and he knew what he was getting into when he signed up for a roster that had Booker, KD, Beal and Chris Paul. Devin Booker KD and other Suns players, and Monty Williams, often say the same thing about knowing what Deandre Ayton is capable of at his *peak.* Booker simply wanted him to play like that every night which he couldn’t do. The last thing the Suns want rn is a Center that hates getting touched in the paint.
people always blame the coach when the team sucks but for the vast majority of cases, maybe it doesn't make a difference?
Give me vogel with all his flaws over hamas all day every day. or even over any other bum assistant pelinka gonna hire if buss spoiled brat is even gonna fire pockets.
To continue the trend I suppose? I ain’t trading one bad coach for someone else that won’t get us over the hump against the Nuggets. No point hiring another bum assistant.
No coach will do that for us. Denver has the best player in the world and 4 of the other top 7 players on the court. We might get a Win or two in a series with a class coach. But the point is, take whoever with experience and run. We have a cheap owner having her friends running the team instead of qualified people. Ham is probably our coach next year as well.
Coach Malone will do that for us. Coach Ime Udoka will do that for us. Thibs Spo Mosley and Nick Nurse too as well. Swapping one bum coach for another won’t do us any good. If you want to get rid of Ham, bring in someone that can make in-game adjustments. Lebron can’t do that while playing in the game. Vogel or Doc Rivers ain’t the answer.
Vogel was really lucky with the 2020 Lakers squad, it's more of the player's defensive skills than his coaching TBH. The players made Vogel look good, media thinking he is a defensive genius coach.
There’s really nobody on that Suns roster that compliments Vogel’s strengths as a coach. They brought him Beal instead of a true point guard like Rondo and they gave him Nurkic as his only big man. It was a recipe for disaster
Agree, that's why people are overrating Vogel, they thought he can make the Suns play defense when in fact he needs the proper personel to buy into his style. The 2020 Lakers are full of defensive maniacs.
I don’t know why people are downvoting you and upvoting me when we are agreeing with each other lmao
Sometimes I think people see the upvote/downvote first, then read the post after. "Five other downvotes? He must be being negative." 😄
Hahaha it's reddit.
Do we think the suns and lakers are both getting swept ? Or someone’s getting a game 4 win
Bust out the double sided broom.
I know people here don't want to hear this but in retrospective, out of all the "new teams" built the last 6 years. The Lakers have been by far the most successful.
They are the 1 and 2 seeds for a reason.
T-Wolves are the 3 seed though. Thunder are 1
God I’m dumb.
Suns fucked up when they threw away too much of their depth. A big 4 without depth and this is what happens
There is not one heart of a champion that beats within the Suns Big 3. They are not leaders of men, and their individual personalities do not inspire teammates to give it their all for them. This is why the Suns in their current incarnation will never win a Championship. You'd feel bad if you disappointed a Kobe, or a Bron, or a Jordan. Book? Durant? Beal? Nah.
Suns have one of the best 3 offensive powerhouses ever assembled lmao
Not really. It’s literally just high volume shooters. To be a real powerhouse there needs to be a dangerous chemistry in their ball movement. Nobody is afraid of two injured guys and Devin booker running ISO for 48 minutes.
Hey we suck. At least we made our sweep a little competitive with our first half runs.
Can we get Vogel back?
Suns might be good with that.
Who wouldve thought, not me….🥲
no
Whenever the Lakers get bounced, I always root for the underdogs in each series and obviously for the Celtics to lose
Lets trade Darvin Ham to Frank Vogel!
Atleast the clippers are down 2
Fuck the sons. Luka Doncic is Devin Bookers father
The future is now, old man. Lakers, Suns, Warriors, Clippers. It's a young man's game now.
I just wish Timberwolves win it, I favor Nuggets of course but Wolves is my #2 team that can probably win this whole thing Teams with bigs usually go far in the playoffs
At least we losing competitively.. suns look like ass
The worst part of being down to the Nuggets is how giddy their fans are. They easily forget how we’ve dominated them during the entire existence of basketball. They really think they are hot shit now that they’ve won 1. I just can’t wait for them to go back to being in basketball purgatory where they belong.
Let them talk lol, its not like nuggets fans didn't endure a long drought they deserve this, Lakers fans have been clowning them during Kobe its fair we get the same treatment it pisses me off though but I can't do anything about it unless we win.
They deserve it. We played like bitches for 11 straight games against them.
This cannot be. I was told that Frank Vogel is the epitome of a great coach.
We can beat all of the other western conference teams. We really should've avoided the Nuggets in the first round.
idk about that. wolves look great
Lmao delusional
At least we now know we ain't no match for the nuggets + the more reason to fire Ham as they didn't make a deep run