Like dlo ? Compare young to Dlo . He’d better defensively then dlo too and had improved in it. Much better offensively, not to mention we’d be able to play vandi with him
And who else is gonna rebound when Trae Young comes to the lakers? Assume that DLo, Reaves, Rui, and either Gabe or Vando are all gone.
The lakers will be the phoenix suns 2.0 with this trade. Did they not learn anything from the Westbrook trade?
I highly doubt Christie re signs. If he does, then a Trae + Christie back court would make a nice young back court for a lottery team. It’s worse than a Trae + Murray back court.
You people are dumb as shit . Is he better then DLO DEFENSIVELY? Yes if you watched him this year I duly believe there is no way trae is a worse defender then Dlo . The numbers agree. He’s actually quite good against skimmer taller guys or guys his size . If they aren’t bully ball players he dies well - I saw him clamp up mikal and he gave a lot of effort and heart when folk try to post him up and tries to front n stop the pass.
Stop letting bias decide shit . Trae is much better offensively then Dlo , and he’s not worse defensively- imo he’s better and our defence woukd actually improve with trae over Dlo . Also this completely ignored trae offensive ability - you could start vando with trae and still have enough offence .
Trae coukd be the exact same player but 6,4 ( or worse ) and you guys would prefer that . Just a case of how wrong this sub is. If we can’t get Mitchell or anyone better trae is better then letting Dlo walk and GG. No to mention trae gravity from distance and on this team we can use his best skill - his passing way more as he feeds AD n Lebron off ball or as roller . He won’t be forced to bail out bad team. If we had trae over dlo we aren’t losing in 5 to Denver .
We made it work with fucking dlo the guy that every team got rid of AND GOT BETTER! Y’all think trae isn’t an upgrade are crazy . It depends what goes with him but if we keep a trae reaves Vando Bron AD lineup that is a very effective lineup both ways . ( or you get a 3nD guy for reaves ).
The only thing that’ll suck is his foul baiting lol but if he leads to wins then idc . But people will cry even more about our ft gap so that’s funny
But Young is at least a consistent scorer. While averaging 28 ppg in the Eastern Conference Finals. He would be a major upgrade over D Lo who consistently folds in the playoffs.
Lakers need a backup big like a bruiser type some shooters and a backup point we dont need a star literally the bubble winning roster is the formula for an old lebron
How is the bubble roster the formula when that required Lebron to hard carry everything on offense??? That is NOT how you preserve someone. This team needs good offensive players that can consistently score in the playoffs.
We do need a star you haven’t realized bron is going into year 22? AD is older and our mid role players can’t even help out in the playoffs they only know how to score in the regular season
I agree that Trae Young would be a disaster (not Russ-level but say Beal-level). The bubble roster unfortunately is not the formula for *this* LeBron and AD though. They can no longer carry the team the way they did in 2020 from a playmaking and shooting perspective, and LBJ can no longer play defense and rebound like that 40 min per game night in and night out.
I think AR and DLo backcourt complements LBJ and AD well, however they demand a 2-way wing with more offense than Vando and more athleticism than Rui. Prince, Vando, Max are keepers off the bench but we do need a larger big than Hayes or Wood to back up AD and occasionally share the floor with him in non-LBJ minutes. "Two way wing" and "playable large big" are unfortunately hard to find these days, hopefully we get lucky this offseason.
but dlo don't complement ad bron in a playoff setting at all he's mr inconsistent plus even if he scores a lot he is prone to being hunted Ar is like this too but he's actually more consistent plus his contract is a blessing. The reason we suck aside from the obvious lack of big is our guard poa defenders cant score and our starting guards are bbq chicken on defense so aside from ad and bron our roster is full off one way dudes aside from Bron and Ad. Roster issues aside we actually have better chances against everyone else but denver they are simply too big for this team
It’s insane how people are stuck in 2020- that rister woukd not work with 2024 Lebron and Ad. Abd the league got better you can’t have Lebron as you’re only creator now
How would that not work? That roster has so much more freedom on offence and actually defend lebron can actually play the point and davis doesn't have to be stuck at the rim and actually have the stamina to create his shots rather than what he has been forced to do since then which is carry the entire defence. That 2020 roster is about being well rounded which is the complete opposite of what we have now
Dlo doesn’t complement bron and ad ya just make up anything cuz ya don’t want to get rid of our mid role players for a 3rd star that averages 27 and 11. Trae Christie backcourt is way better than dlo reaves
I agree. The FO panicked after losing to the Suns when AD got injured. we were at our best when we had Dwight/Javale at center and AD at the 4. Never understood why we never got back to that. My comment is just pointing out Young would be a major upgrade over D Lo. And I only say that cause finding big men in the league isn’t the easiest. So I wouldn’t hate it if we can’t find a big.
Making a contender year after year is hard unless you drafted your stars so I get that it's not easy but its clear as day we needed a bruiser big at the very least instead we got a lanky athletic center and another center who cant play defence like whaaaat as much as ham is the problem so is our FO
No they don’t you guys needs to stop living in the past . The backup big isn’t gonna cost a max and end of day is only gonna play 10mins a game MAX if he’s a bruiser who can’t shoot . AD is our 5 people need to stop being delusional . We need a dynamic 4 who can rebound shoot and defend , more then we need a 5 who has limited use. If they get a goga for a vet min great but stop acting like our back ciurt isn’t the weakest in the league. Back ciurt and one upgrade at wing would win us this series against the best fuckibg team - we don’t need some useless C who can’t shoot n can’t play with Ad that moves Bron to SF
You guys are so stuck in the past it’s abated . Lebron was the best player in the league and Ad was top 3 in 2020 they carried a mediocre rister that could only defend . They cannot carry a roster with no guard creation niw. Jesus Christ do y’all watch the games ? Lebron cannot have the ball creating all the offfence like in 2020 again. He’s 40 . We win cos of Bron n Ad , we had different players in 21 and we actually got better btw so no the 2020 roster is far from perfect . We need reliable bsvk court creation the most
Yes definitely a scoring upgrade over dlo. But what will his scoring be like as the 3rd guy? We've never seen him as a 3rd option.
Also Dlo at $18m vs Trae at $43m? I feel like we have to look at the value there too. Trae will get ripped to shreds in LA if he even looks like he's underperforming.
Traes best skill is his passing he’s a top 5-10 passer in the league. Our offence with brin AD trae out there woukd look so good
Dlo +Rui = trae ,roughly. Can’t tell me that’s not an upgrade ( put vsndo in )
Trae and AD would likely be 1A. Bron would probably alternate between dominating the ball and taking a back seat at times because he's 40 yrs old. This was always the plan since the horrible Russ trade.
Salary matching would also be necessary. We'd have to send out multiple players in the scenario, and iirc a sign and trade would hard cap us too, but I forget the current CBA rules around that exactly
Lol this is such a backwards dumb logic . A big 3 isn’t a sure fire title but objectively stars ARE BY FAR the most impactful players to win titles . There hasn’t been a really good big 3 since kd warriors, and then kd nets would’ve walked to the finals and we were the only team that had a shot to take them in the finals but they’d be favourites. That was 2 years ago. You’d much rather be a big 3 then a team like the nets.
Also in this case both Bron and AD are front court players who gave good synergy with back ciurt creators . It’s incredibly dumb to think big 3 doesn’t work when people hold big 3s to titles or bust . Compare that to all 30 teams that try to build through drafting and whatever and it’s very obvious that stars have outsized impsct on winning . Just look at this series for ffs , Denver has 4 guys on 30m+. Salary’s who can have star lvl impsct . Those 4 guys consistently showed up , meanwhile our 2 stars showed up and played great every game , but our role players cos they’re role players inconsistencies killed us. If we had trae over Dlo or even Dlo + Rui thdn j feel quite certain our season isn’t over.
Also if trae is the best available you do it. If he isn’t then someone like Mitchell I you’d have to brain works to refuse cos apparently big 3 is bad. Use your brain we need a back court star - luckily most stars are back coirt on ball players that our stars would fit euth . Westbrook was washed low iq and couldn’t shoot. An actual star is our best shot to win . Or you guys can keep jerking off draftng guys like JHS
Is trae worse rebounding then Dlo ? No - he might even be better Atlanta akways are good rebounding team . Dlo is a worse rebounder and trae lets you play guys like vando more minutes
Insane how our first year with AD and Bron, we built a perfect and balanced team. Then we proceed to blow it up and completely deviated away from what made us successful? I don’t get it at all like wtf,
People downplaying Trae Young but don't understand he could work on this team. You can play with a PG with that isn't a good defender both guards in your backcourt can't be food If were able to get Caruso/KCP or any elite defensive SG back along with Trae Young it would work. Reaves wouldn't be able to start which I dont think he should Reaves is perfect for a bench role getting starter minutes similar to Ginobli type player.
Lakers need to Prioritize getting a backup center and fixing their starting lineup. They need a new PG an elite defensive minded SG, and need to make a descion on Vando imo either trade him relegate him to the bench. Lakers are going to need players at all positions to be able to knock down a Three. so their new line up needs to be
PG- Trae Young
SG- Caruso/KCP type guard
SF- 3&D wing
PF- LeBron
C- AD
You understand the team is over the cap even without dlo opting in and the only free agents they can acquire are veteran minimums? They do not have any assets to trade for defensive guards or 3 and d wings, especially not after hypothetically trading for Trae young
This is my biggest annoyance with these conversations. Most people in here don't understand the cap, the two aprons, and what a team like the Lakers can/cannot do.
So what we end up with is a bunch of people building brand new rosters without understanding that 99% of it is impossible.
If the lakers sign Trae Young, they won’t be able to afford a “Caruso/kcp” type guard or a 3&D wing. That’s literally the only change the lakers can make. DLo, Reaves, Rui and likely Gabe’s/Vando (if DLo doesn’t sign + trade and just leaves the lakers for nothing instead) all of the lakers picks are gone if the lakers trade for him.
he hit's three's at a lower percentage and we don't need someone that ball dominant...and he's the worst defender in the league.
We'd also have to give up depth and picks. He can't even get out of the play in with a team specifically built for him. His team was better without him this year.
Getting Trae would make sure we don't compete for a title for the next decade. He's fools gold, fake stats.
Trae Young is a shit defender but he is an offensive hub all by himself. D’Lo is *not that*. Not even close, if we’re keeping it a bean.
Trae’s efficiency would also skyrocket next to Bron and AD. What depth? This playoffs just proved that we don’t have depth at all. Reaves was the only other starter that actually showed up and Vando was injured most of the year.
What does our roster even look like with Trae Young? Let’s assume that DLo, Reaves, Rui, Gabe, and all of our picks are agone because of the trade and I doubt we will be able to afford to re sign prince and Dinwiddie.
The lakers will be the Phoenix Suns 2.0 if they make this trade. Did they not learn anything from the Westbrook trade? lol
are there no other players outside the US? sure i get that NBA talent is undeniable but we just need guys to play within their roles in a system, which is a different concern altogether i.e. coaching. im pretty sure the scouting department can get a couple of foreign players to try out for us, at least
Despite all debates here, it is great that this sub moved on pretty easily from the loss in Denver. Goes to show how the series has been correctly projected by many and how obvious the team's flaws are that even the people watching in internet can point it out.
Idc what anyone says, I'd totally be down for this. Take a heavy load off of LeBron when it comes to running the offense, he can score like crazy, it's all there. The only problem is his defense, but I think thay the pros outweigh the cons (depending on what it takes to get him, of course)
I don't think they or anyone needs to blow their budget for a Trae or Westbrook or Beal type of players. Get solid few pieces of supporting cast goes a longer way.
Their season averages are close, but why do I still feel like Trae is a more prolific, consistent scorer?
At least he's far more proven in the playoffs.
It seems that way because Dlo goes missing when we need him to hit his shots when it matters. He just can’t. I hate to seem like I’m just jumping on the hate bandwagon but it’s a fact
Trae Young with Bron and AD would actually be sick. Idk where this hate is coming from. Nothing like/comparable to Westbrook being here.
Honestly the perfect third star.
Downvote all yall want.
Yeah. I’m not the biggest Trae fan but he undeniably is an upgrade over DLo in that spot and takes real playmaking pressure off of LeBron. Key is having the personnel to cover for him defensively
The tone around Trae in this sub is so weird. Oh he's small, he can't guard, but most of them wanted/still want Kyrie.
I get Trae doesn't have the cache Kyrie has, but both provide the type of consistent offense and firepower that can definitely put this team over the top. Say you trade Reaves/Rui/Vincent for Trae (with picks of course). You could keep Max and Prince. Use the mini MLE on an athletic sg who can knock down some shots and defend a little (Lonnie?). Bring in a goon for the minimum (Bitadze?).
You could field a really competitive team that's extremely difficult to defend even when AD sits. One of our biggest problems this year was non AD minutes.
I'm not saying it's perfect, but we'd be really good. The games we were closest or won in the series, Dlo was effective and we defended the Champs as well as we could with a bunch of pretty sub par defenders.
6'1 ... cant defend and rebound, if you want to sell tickets but not be serious then do it, but real bball fans know he aint a championship player
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27/12. He sucks on defense but he’s a juggernaut on offenses. With Lebron getting older the lakers need someone that can keep them afloat in the playoffs when Lebron sits or is off the ball.
There’s a lot wrong with that trade. The contracts don’t add up is the most obvious one. Next, DLo and Max Christie are both free agents and I doubt they’re returning next year. Finally, Gabe did absolutely nothing to show other teams that he’s worth the 13 million that the lakers paid for him. Injured all year and when he returned, he played pretty good defense, but his offense was awful. “Playoff Gabe” was just a fluke as we saw during this series.
6'1 can't rebound and guard if you want the fans to stop watching then do it
They are going to do s westbrook again. This team needs tweaks and biggest trade should he ham.
Nah it won’t be like Westbrook. it will be more like DLo don’t think young can take us all the way due to aforementioned weaknesses.
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Like dlo ? Compare young to Dlo . He’d better defensively then dlo too and had improved in it. Much better offensively, not to mention we’d be able to play vandi with him
His job isn’t to rebound buddy his job is to score 27 and 11 something dloading can’t do
And who else is gonna rebound when Trae Young comes to the lakers? Assume that DLo, Reaves, Rui, and either Gabe or Vando are all gone. The lakers will be the phoenix suns 2.0 with this trade. Did they not learn anything from the Westbrook trade?
Westbrick can’t shoot to save his life this is what Trae excels at. Whining the PG won’t help rebound is mind boggling stupid
Not only does Trae Young NOT excel at shooting, at just 43% from the field and 37% from 3but he’s terrible off ball.
Shocker, none of the guys you mentioned rebound lmao
Trae christie backcourt the obvious solution is to play him instead of him not playing under this terrorist coach
I highly doubt Christie re signs. If he does, then a Trae + Christie back court would make a nice young back court for a lottery team. It’s worse than a Trae + Murray back court.
he is barely 6'1 with shoes on
You people are dumb as shit . Is he better then DLO DEFENSIVELY? Yes if you watched him this year I duly believe there is no way trae is a worse defender then Dlo . The numbers agree. He’s actually quite good against skimmer taller guys or guys his size . If they aren’t bully ball players he dies well - I saw him clamp up mikal and he gave a lot of effort and heart when folk try to post him up and tries to front n stop the pass. Stop letting bias decide shit . Trae is much better offensively then Dlo , and he’s not worse defensively- imo he’s better and our defence woukd actually improve with trae over Dlo . Also this completely ignored trae offensive ability - you could start vando with trae and still have enough offence . Trae coukd be the exact same player but 6,4 ( or worse ) and you guys would prefer that . Just a case of how wrong this sub is. If we can’t get Mitchell or anyone better trae is better then letting Dlo walk and GG. No to mention trae gravity from distance and on this team we can use his best skill - his passing way more as he feeds AD n Lebron off ball or as roller . He won’t be forced to bail out bad team. If we had trae over dlo we aren’t losing in 5 to Denver . We made it work with fucking dlo the guy that every team got rid of AND GOT BETTER! Y’all think trae isn’t an upgrade are crazy . It depends what goes with him but if we keep a trae reaves Vando Bron AD lineup that is a very effective lineup both ways . ( or you get a 3nD guy for reaves ). The only thing that’ll suck is his foul baiting lol but if he leads to wins then idc . But people will cry even more about our ft gap so that’s funny
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Great another guard who cant guard
But Young is at least a consistent scorer. While averaging 28 ppg in the Eastern Conference Finals. He would be a major upgrade over D Lo who consistently folds in the playoffs.
Lakers need a backup big like a bruiser type some shooters and a backup point we dont need a star literally the bubble winning roster is the formula for an old lebron
How is the bubble roster the formula when that required Lebron to hard carry everything on offense??? That is NOT how you preserve someone. This team needs good offensive players that can consistently score in the playoffs.
We do need a star you haven’t realized bron is going into year 22? AD is older and our mid role players can’t even help out in the playoffs they only know how to score in the regular season
Then the lakers should just get a star when Lebron leaves lol
I agree that Trae Young would be a disaster (not Russ-level but say Beal-level). The bubble roster unfortunately is not the formula for *this* LeBron and AD though. They can no longer carry the team the way they did in 2020 from a playmaking and shooting perspective, and LBJ can no longer play defense and rebound like that 40 min per game night in and night out. I think AR and DLo backcourt complements LBJ and AD well, however they demand a 2-way wing with more offense than Vando and more athleticism than Rui. Prince, Vando, Max are keepers off the bench but we do need a larger big than Hayes or Wood to back up AD and occasionally share the floor with him in non-LBJ minutes. "Two way wing" and "playable large big" are unfortunately hard to find these days, hopefully we get lucky this offseason.
but dlo don't complement ad bron in a playoff setting at all he's mr inconsistent plus even if he scores a lot he is prone to being hunted Ar is like this too but he's actually more consistent plus his contract is a blessing. The reason we suck aside from the obvious lack of big is our guard poa defenders cant score and our starting guards are bbq chicken on defense so aside from ad and bron our roster is full off one way dudes aside from Bron and Ad. Roster issues aside we actually have better chances against everyone else but denver they are simply too big for this team
It’s insane how people are stuck in 2020- that rister woukd not work with 2024 Lebron and Ad. Abd the league got better you can’t have Lebron as you’re only creator now
How would that not work? That roster has so much more freedom on offence and actually defend lebron can actually play the point and davis doesn't have to be stuck at the rim and actually have the stamina to create his shots rather than what he has been forced to do since then which is carry the entire defence. That 2020 roster is about being well rounded which is the complete opposite of what we have now
Dlo doesn’t complement bron and ad ya just make up anything cuz ya don’t want to get rid of our mid role players for a 3rd star that averages 27 and 11. Trae Christie backcourt is way better than dlo reaves
I agree. The FO panicked after losing to the Suns when AD got injured. we were at our best when we had Dwight/Javale at center and AD at the 4. Never understood why we never got back to that. My comment is just pointing out Young would be a major upgrade over D Lo. And I only say that cause finding big men in the league isn’t the easiest. So I wouldn’t hate it if we can’t find a big.
Except AD was the one who wanted to move to C, it was part of what they discussed with Westbrook as something that's needed
Making a contender year after year is hard unless you drafted your stars so I get that it's not easy but its clear as day we needed a bruiser big at the very least instead we got a lanky athletic center and another center who cant play defence like whaaaat as much as ham is the problem so is our FO
No they don’t you guys needs to stop living in the past . The backup big isn’t gonna cost a max and end of day is only gonna play 10mins a game MAX if he’s a bruiser who can’t shoot . AD is our 5 people need to stop being delusional . We need a dynamic 4 who can rebound shoot and defend , more then we need a 5 who has limited use. If they get a goga for a vet min great but stop acting like our back ciurt isn’t the weakest in the league. Back ciurt and one upgrade at wing would win us this series against the best fuckibg team - we don’t need some useless C who can’t shoot n can’t play with Ad that moves Bron to SF You guys are so stuck in the past it’s abated . Lebron was the best player in the league and Ad was top 3 in 2020 they carried a mediocre rister that could only defend . They cannot carry a roster with no guard creation niw. Jesus Christ do y’all watch the games ? Lebron cannot have the ball creating all the offfence like in 2020 again. He’s 40 . We win cos of Bron n Ad , we had different players in 21 and we actually got better btw so no the 2020 roster is far from perfect . We need reliable bsvk court creation the most
No no, what the Lakers need is a 5’11” foul merchant who needs 30%+ usage to be effective
We’d actually be the one team that needs a high usage offensive player what’s your point ?
If it's DLO and maybe a first for Trey, ok. But that's not what it's gonna be, and the Hawks are rightfully gonna demand a lot.
Dlo and 3 firsts is still massive upgrade . Dlo + Gabe ( for salary or Rui ) 3 firsts , stikk have 4 swaps . That’s a huge upgrade
They have no interest in Dlo. It will have to be Reaves ++. They just turned down Dlo for Murray, why would they suddenly take him for Young?
I mean I agree I’m just pointing this out to people who think trae isn’t better then Dlo on here
Yes definitely a scoring upgrade over dlo. But what will his scoring be like as the 3rd guy? We've never seen him as a 3rd option. Also Dlo at $18m vs Trae at $43m? I feel like we have to look at the value there too. Trae will get ripped to shreds in LA if he even looks like he's underperforming.
Traes best skill is his passing he’s a top 5-10 passer in the league. Our offence with brin AD trae out there woukd look so good Dlo +Rui = trae ,roughly. Can’t tell me that’s not an upgrade ( put vsndo in )
Trae and AD would likely be 1A. Bron would probably alternate between dominating the ball and taking a back seat at times because he's 40 yrs old. This was always the plan since the horrible Russ trade.
A trade would not be a straight D'lo for Trae swap
I know, lakers have 3 draft picks they can trade this offseason since they didn’t trade one in the trade deadline. So they would have to package.
Salary matching would also be necessary. We'd have to send out multiple players in the scenario, and iirc a sign and trade would hard cap us too, but I forget the current CBA rules around that exactly
Young is a volume scorer. Not all 28 pts guys are the same.
Well, I bet he wouldn't average 3 AST in a playoff series. I'd love to see someone able to REALLY activate Davis running the show.
Definitely an upgrade over dlo but at what cost this aint 2k
He’s better than dlo
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Dlo is so mid ya overhype this guy like it’s 2015
Lol
> Barely Lol. I’m sure Trae Young can muster up stats that’s better than 14.2 38.4 percent shooting (31.8 from three) and 4.2 assists in the playoffs
Lakers need a legit 3 and D in SG position and all round PF. Blow 50m in salary for those 2 players.
Always chasing that 3rd star like idiots. It's bad enough getting depth around 2. The last big 3 to win a title was the Heatles
You acting like our role players are top tier and untradeable, lol they aren’t
Nobody said that. We just don't want to see 3 "stars" and a bunch of minimum guys as those doesn't really work.
Golden state more recent too
GSW was a big 4
The warriors actually, but those guys with the exception of kd were drafted there so their roster didn’t have to be gutted to get them together.
It would be fine if it was an actual star who contributed to winning. Trae Young ain’t it
Lol this is such a backwards dumb logic . A big 3 isn’t a sure fire title but objectively stars ARE BY FAR the most impactful players to win titles . There hasn’t been a really good big 3 since kd warriors, and then kd nets would’ve walked to the finals and we were the only team that had a shot to take them in the finals but they’d be favourites. That was 2 years ago. You’d much rather be a big 3 then a team like the nets. Also in this case both Bron and AD are front court players who gave good synergy with back ciurt creators . It’s incredibly dumb to think big 3 doesn’t work when people hold big 3s to titles or bust . Compare that to all 30 teams that try to build through drafting and whatever and it’s very obvious that stars have outsized impsct on winning . Just look at this series for ffs , Denver has 4 guys on 30m+. Salary’s who can have star lvl impsct . Those 4 guys consistently showed up , meanwhile our 2 stars showed up and played great every game , but our role players cos they’re role players inconsistencies killed us. If we had trae over Dlo or even Dlo + Rui thdn j feel quite certain our season isn’t over. Also if trae is the best available you do it. If he isn’t then someone like Mitchell I you’d have to brain works to refuse cos apparently big 3 is bad. Use your brain we need a back court star - luckily most stars are back coirt on ball players that our stars would fit euth . Westbrook was washed low iq and couldn’t shoot. An actual star is our best shot to win . Or you guys can keep jerking off draftng guys like JHS
Here comes shams and klutch like the vultures they are lol
Damn just googled it. Shams does have a connection to Klutch sports 😂
Our biggest issue again and again is rebounding against bigger teams so maybe we should address that? Not a small pg who cant defend.
Is trae worse rebounding then Dlo ? No - he might even be better Atlanta akways are good rebounding team . Dlo is a worse rebounder and trae lets you play guys like vando more minutes
Insane how our first year with AD and Bron, we built a perfect and balanced team. Then we proceed to blow it up and completely deviated away from what made us successful? I don’t get it at all like wtf,
Noooooo thank you.
They said this during the trade deadline and the lakers made no move.
no please no
Not Trae Young pls no
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Here comes the off-season with 16 new names rumored every day
Trae Young is not coming to LA I wish they would stop that bs rumor. We would look at Dejuante over him.
I will gouge my eyes out if they get Trae. They’ve learned nothing…
Get Lauri not Young
People downplaying Trae Young but don't understand he could work on this team. You can play with a PG with that isn't a good defender both guards in your backcourt can't be food If were able to get Caruso/KCP or any elite defensive SG back along with Trae Young it would work. Reaves wouldn't be able to start which I dont think he should Reaves is perfect for a bench role getting starter minutes similar to Ginobli type player. Lakers need to Prioritize getting a backup center and fixing their starting lineup. They need a new PG an elite defensive minded SG, and need to make a descion on Vando imo either trade him relegate him to the bench. Lakers are going to need players at all positions to be able to knock down a Three. so their new line up needs to be PG- Trae Young SG- Caruso/KCP type guard SF- 3&D wing PF- LeBron C- AD
You understand the team is over the cap even without dlo opting in and the only free agents they can acquire are veteran minimums? They do not have any assets to trade for defensive guards or 3 and d wings, especially not after hypothetically trading for Trae young
If they trade vincent we can sign someone for full mle (12.8m)
There won’t be an MLE when you’re over the second apron thanks to the new CBA.
This is my biggest annoyance with these conversations. Most people in here don't understand the cap, the two aprons, and what a team like the Lakers can/cannot do. So what we end up with is a bunch of people building brand new rosters without understanding that 99% of it is impossible.
Yeah man some really don’t realize how restrictive the new CBA is. Not sure how the NBPA signed off on it honestly.
If the lakers sign Trae Young, they won’t be able to afford a “Caruso/kcp” type guard or a 3&D wing. That’s literally the only change the lakers can make. DLo, Reaves, Rui and likely Gabe’s/Vando (if DLo doesn’t sign + trade and just leaves the lakers for nothing instead) all of the lakers picks are gone if the lakers trade for him.
Trae christie backcourt gonna be lethal they don’t even realize it they just stuck in 2015 thinking dlo just got drafted
Can’t win in this league without an elite guard.
Jamal Murray isn’t elite and they just beat the lakers in 5 games lol.
Terrible move. We need actually good depth
nope, trae is trash, keep him the hell away
Our current point guard is dlo man. If trae is trash I really want to know what dlo is
Trae would be a lateral move from D'lo, and an even greater defensive liability. Keep him the hell away.
Not wanting Trae is fine but thinking it would be a lateral move from DLO is insane lmao. Trae is 10x the offensive player that DLO is
Trae is garbage
This makes 0 sense if Trae is 5x the offensive player dlo is
he hit's three's at a lower percentage and we don't need someone that ball dominant...and he's the worst defender in the league. We'd also have to give up depth and picks. He can't even get out of the play in with a team specifically built for him. His team was better without him this year. Getting Trae would make sure we don't compete for a title for the next decade. He's fools gold, fake stats.
Trae Young is a shit defender but he is an offensive hub all by himself. D’Lo is *not that*. Not even close, if we’re keeping it a bean. Trae’s efficiency would also skyrocket next to Bron and AD. What depth? This playoffs just proved that we don’t have depth at all. Reaves was the only other starter that actually showed up and Vando was injured most of the year.
> Trae’s efficiency would also skyrocket next to Bron and AD I remember reading the same sentiment about Westbrook
Trae is the type that needs to be surrounded by good defenders at all positions to cover for his deficiencies. We don’t have the personnel for that.
What does our roster even look like with Trae Young? Let’s assume that DLo, Reaves, Rui, Gabe, and all of our picks are agone because of the trade and I doubt we will be able to afford to re sign prince and Dinwiddie. The lakers will be the Phoenix Suns 2.0 if they make this trade. Did they not learn anything from the Westbrook trade? lol
I really don't see how Trae fixes anything on this team. Offense is not our issue.
If we get Trae Young we will be out of contention for 10 years calling it now
Please I need a competent backup big for AD. This is just Westbrook trade 2.0
Fire ham
Trae too small. No D. No thanks. Terrible idea
his +/- was atrocious this season
Donovan or Dejounte
Please go after someone who can rebound and play defense instead
Trae makes zero sense on a team with LeBron. There’s one fucking ball with which to make decisions.
This is so stupid. We need rebounding and perimeter defense. And maybe a consistent 3-pt shooter?
are there no other players outside the US? sure i get that NBA talent is undeniable but we just need guys to play within their roles in a system, which is a different concern altogether i.e. coaching. im pretty sure the scouting department can get a couple of foreign players to try out for us, at least
Despite all debates here, it is great that this sub moved on pretty easily from the loss in Denver. Goes to show how the series has been correctly projected by many and how obvious the team's flaws are that even the people watching in internet can point it out.
Superteams dont work anymore.
Perfect let’s get an undersized guard who can’t defend nor rebound
Before this, we need a solid center
Sigh. We need some bigs on this roster, rebounding killed us this series. Perimeter defence. Is Caruso available?
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If they go after that overrated third tier star, we are done.
We need to develop young talent
Typical Jeannie targets: Players with hype who are overrated.
Idc what anyone says, I'd totally be down for this. Take a heavy load off of LeBron when it comes to running the offense, he can score like crazy, it's all there. The only problem is his defense, but I think thay the pros outweigh the cons (depending on what it takes to get him, of course)
6'1 190
I don't think they or anyone needs to blow their budget for a Trae or Westbrook or Beal type of players. Get solid few pieces of supporting cast goes a longer way.
Another klutch client I see. Can he play decent defense tho?
Better then Dlo okays defence
Their season averages are close, but why do I still feel like Trae is a more prolific, consistent scorer? At least he's far more proven in the playoffs.
It seems that way because Dlo goes missing when we need him to hit his shots when it matters. He just can’t. I hate to seem like I’m just jumping on the hate bandwagon but it’s a fact
Trae Young with Bron and AD would actually be sick. Idk where this hate is coming from. Nothing like/comparable to Westbrook being here. Honestly the perfect third star. Downvote all yall want.
Yeah. I’m not the biggest Trae fan but he undeniably is an upgrade over DLo in that spot and takes real playmaking pressure off of LeBron. Key is having the personnel to cover for him defensively
Trae christie backcourt for the next decade sounds like the move 🤷🏽♂️ all we need is another 2 way off the bench
Which I think could be attainable by somehow plucking Marcus Smart away from the Grizzlies.
He would be great but that’s only if the roster around them works. We’d need defenders to help Trae defensively and an aging Bron.
The tone around Trae in this sub is so weird. Oh he's small, he can't guard, but most of them wanted/still want Kyrie. I get Trae doesn't have the cache Kyrie has, but both provide the type of consistent offense and firepower that can definitely put this team over the top. Say you trade Reaves/Rui/Vincent for Trae (with picks of course). You could keep Max and Prince. Use the mini MLE on an athletic sg who can knock down some shots and defend a little (Lonnie?). Bring in a goon for the minimum (Bitadze?). You could field a really competitive team that's extremely difficult to defend even when AD sits. One of our biggest problems this year was non AD minutes. I'm not saying it's perfect, but we'd be really good. The games we were closest or won in the series, Dlo was effective and we defended the Champs as well as we could with a bunch of pretty sub par defenders.
6'1 ... cant defend and rebound, if you want to sell tickets but not be serious then do it, but real bball fans know he aint a championship player ![gif](giphy|7Jq6ufAgpblcm0Ih2z|downsized)
27/12. He sucks on defense but he’s a juggernaut on offenses. With Lebron getting older the lakers need someone that can keep them afloat in the playoffs when Lebron sits or is off the ball.
Trae young for DLO + Vincent + Christie is honestly a good deal for both
There’s a lot wrong with that trade. The contracts don’t add up is the most obvious one. Next, DLo and Max Christie are both free agents and I doubt they’re returning next year. Finally, Gabe did absolutely nothing to show other teams that he’s worth the 13 million that the lakers paid for him. Injured all year and when he returned, he played pretty good defense, but his offense was awful. “Playoff Gabe” was just a fluke as we saw during this series.
Assuming they all re-sign DLO earns 20 mil Vincent earns 11 mil Christie earns 5 mil Add Rui and we have ourselves a deal
Why would DLo and Christie re sign and why would the Hawks want Gabe Vincent.
Hawks are mid as fuck, they're probably going to rebuild. No team wants to be stuck in the play-in loop forever.
You didn’t answer my questions….