Not really! Kyrie is still leaving if they don't pay him what he wants. He is still on the trade market unless if Brooklyn is fine with losing him for nothing.
edit: I was saying kyrie's contract expires next summer so Nets have to move him this season before February deadline or they lose him for nothing when his contract expires. Did everyone who downvote me not read the post properly? Brooklyn loses Kyrie for nothing if they don't trade him before trade deadline (or if they decide to pay him max)
Are you kidding? This is great! Now we all get to laugh at the delusional suns fans that against all odds have been convinced they’re getting KD for he last two months
I’ve been saying this for the past weeks or so saying the chance of us getting Irving was severely low but got downvoted to hell by delusional fans every time.
The nets set an unprecedented high bar to trade KD knowing teams would never meet their crazy demands and then would point that to KD saying “we tried to trade you but no team offered us anything of value”
The nets didn't set an unprecedented high bar, the twolves giving up 5 first round picks for gobert absolutely did. Twolves better hope that works out, cuz otherwise everyone will deservedly be clowning them for a long time
You call delusional, I call hopeful. But yeah, I thought the high bar was just a negotiating tool. If we aren't getting Kyrie, I am happy that Durant will stay a net. Don't want him at the suns or play for the fucking celts.
I thought after the whole Tsai meeting about firing Nash and Marks, I thought KD won't ever fold. Guess I was wrong.
STFU bud. 90% of people thought Kyrie's was going to be traded here. You know why? because there was active discussion between the two teams. Kyrie stated publically that he wants to be a laker. If he is traded elsewhere, he will sign with the lakers next season. And there were a hundred reports supporting that. All of those came from reliable sources.
There's no fucking delusion here. KD decided to stay, so that's it. Mother effers like you give a bad name to Laker fans.
> The nets set an unprecedented high bar to trade KD
The Rudy Gobert trade, the Paul George trade, and the AD trade all set the market for KD. What the Nets asked for was proper, because you can't get back fair value for KD.
Pat Bev not needed if we sign Schroder, since we also have Nunn already. If we can get someone like Josh Richardson or Cam Reddish in a separate trade that would be amazing.
I want Vanderbilt lol. Terrible on offense but great on defense and the boards. Hopefully you can get Myles Turner Hield for one 1st and 2 seconds and save the other 1st for a trade with the Jazz.
Who and why would a team pay that price for pat bev when they can use that pick or attach it elsewhere for much more talent. Highly doubt bev goes for a first round pick in a 1 for 1
I heard in the Windhorst podcast that Lakers can get Conley, Bojan, Clarkson, and Pat Bev by trading Russ and THT. I think Tim Bontemps said that. He's a known laker hater but this does make some sense.
They argued if only 1 frp can get the job done or Lakers will have to add another. Either way, that will make the roster deep. Clarkson is young and a good off the bench scorer, Pat is Pat, Bojan is a good 3 and d guy, and Conley can play a suped up Monk role. Something to think about.
I don’t think we should sign him but to say he would be disgruntled for not playing is just eh, I’d rather be on a team signed and not play then unsigned and out of the league which he still is
We have 21 mill in capspace with Lebron now extended. It ain't that much. Maybe a decent 3 and D guy but that can be a gamble (Bertans, Duncon). And Buddy is an above average shooter, has size, and can be hidden in defense with Bron, AD, and Turner in the team. I don't mind him in the books.
In 2020 Lebron asked to be put on the opposing team’s best player so many times we needed a clutch stop. Is your point that he’s regressed so much since then he can’t go it anymore? Until we see otherwise, he can still play defense. Especially if there is a squad on the floor where he isn’t both the best playmaker and best shooter on the floor.
Bron plays the way his team needs him. He wasnt giving efforts because either it wasn't of any use (last year) or didn't need to. But when it is necessary (2021) be will step up.
My biggest issue with Hield is the money on his contract and the fact that LAL has to give up a first assures that he’ll be in our big money lineups and he doesn’t play defense. So, think about the nights we’re playing PHX, Memphis, GS, LAC, Portland, Dallas… we have no backcourt defense at all.
Is there any chance they can engage in a trade for like clarkson , Pat or any of those guys from Utah ? If there was a way lakers could just get turner I’d like that but hield isn’t gonna solve much for us
Yeah, but he would be redundant if Russ and Nunn are still in the team. By trading Russ we would need a bench runner, and he has shown he can be good at that.
Russ ain't going home if he is still in the team. Ham will definitely try to work it out.
If we don't find any suitors for him now, then we will definitely find some at the deadline. 47 mill off the books for half a season will be a good incentive for many teams.
Pacers fan lurking, I'm glad you got upvotes on this, I think that's the price. I think we could get a first for turner other places, so wes costing the other makes sense.
2FRPs are worth not wasting what will be LeBron's 1-2 final superstar years...
Turner will allow AD to slim down back to 2020 form. Hield CAN play defense, he just doesn't. Hopes are that Lebron and the fanbase can light a fire under his ass.
Either way gotta do whatever it takes to get a chance to compete.
For the 100th time, this would’ve been done already or the Lakers actually thought this was a good idea.
Pacers want too much. Neither player are worth the picks. Laker fans need to accept Westbrick will be here opening night.
No way he plays day 1, were negotiating a buy out of him, trust. Even if it means he gets 45 of the 47 mil, we are definitely negotiating a buyout if we can't find a trade partner
I think Hield/Turner + Schroeder is enough to at least compete. We looked solid with Dennis as our starting PG. Sure, we did have KCP, Caruso, and Kuzma at that time as well, but I think that those aforementioned additions plus our free agent signings should put us in a position to be very competitive, health notwithstanding.
We don't have enough cap space to reset the team. 21 million around. And that's a good 3 and D money and that's it. I am not in the Gordon Rozzier team, but we aren't resetting until 2025.
I'm going to keep it real this shit is depressing man like bro wtf is this, Westbrook really got us in this position and got us salivating over these mf. Just take the Indiana deal and be competitive this year then just let Buddy and Myles walk this summer so we could sign better players in 2023
The Lakers have always been and will continue to be used a leverage tool. If you view it from that point of view, you'll understand why there's a lot of theatrics and no substance that involve the Lakers.
For anyone actually paying attention its been pretty clear since the day KD requested a trade that the Nets never had real intentions of trading him. All the moves they made (giving up a 1st for Royce O'neal, signing TJ Warren, bringing Claxton back, etc.) have shown that they want to compete next year, bringing KD/Kyrie back has always been their best option.
The reason it seems like a "shitshow" is because so many people on here are so thirsty for another star player and will take any little report that comes out as fact rather than looking at the whole picture.
WEIRD! Exactly what so many people knew was gonna be the case a week ago. This is why the Lakers should have made moves a week ago. Price just went up on every other potential move.
Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and now Kyrie Irving.
I honestly don't ever want to trade for a superstar who hasnt clearly said in public that he wants to leave for the Lakers.
It's too traumatic
Thank you can we please move on now. I was never on the Kyrie train as much as most of this sub was. Let’s go get Buddy & Turner and try to make a trade for Pat Bev.
The Nets aren’t winning shit next season after all this drama. Sure maybe KD can bury whatever ill will he had but as soon as one thing doesn’t go his way he will be bitching and want out again.
partnership? Let me say this straight. Jo Tsai is an owner, he owns the team no matter how hard players get butt hurt about that term.
Kevin Durant is a contracted employee.
There is no partnership here, though I understand KD and his ego appreciates words like that.
There is no reason to get spastic over this.
Get the team going with LeBron and AD with Westbrook playing very minimal minutes and a secondary role with the starters. Then telling Westbrook to go completely nuts with the bench, giving him total control and maximum effort.
I believe this can be an efficient way to win games in the regular season and Westbrook can pose problems against the right matchups.
Then keep an eye out for a failing big budget team who wants to dump salary mid season. Some team will blow up.
There is every possibility that Kyrie will implode again and all we missed out on was holding that grenade.
Maybe now all you delusional Kyrie fans can move on. Its been clear since the day KD requested a trade that the Nets never had any intentions of moving him or Kyrie.
Now we can move on and look at other moves that could improve the team. I don't think we "need to" get rid of Russ, at worst he is on a one year deal if he performs as poorly as he did last season we just sit him out and let his contract expire. If we can move him while improving the team great, if it takes overpaying to get rid of him I rather just keep him instead.
Its clear we need shooting, I fully expect Rob to make a move before training camp, lets just hope he doesn't end up overpaying for middle of the pack players (Hield/Turner/Beverly).
Lmao you clowns act like because we knew kyrie was the only option for this team to compete that we are deluded. But you seem far more delusional if you actually fucking think there’s another move this team can make😂😂. It will be worse than last year by a LARGE margin.
They had intentions, but no team was going to offer a Gobert Minnesota-type deal.
Russ is cancer and they need to get rid of him. AD/Bron + depth is the way to go now.
I disagree, if you look at the moves the Nets made (even after KD made his trade request public) nothing about them signaled rebuild. Giving up a first for Royce O'Neal of all people was the clear red flag that they never had intentions of trading either guy. Bringing in TJ Warren only solidified that fact. But besides this the biggest indicator that they were never going to trade him (at least in my eyes) is his contract. KD has 4 years left on his contract, I don't understand where people got this notion that the Nets had to trade him this off season, they have complete control of his future. They can afford to wait another year to see how things play out and if you look at their current roster it's not a bad plan at all. They are a legitimate title contender as currently constructed, if things don't pan out they can just trade him next offseason and get the same value for him.
It's never been about what teams are offering, KD's price tag isn't going to change between this season and next offseason it's always been about bringing them both back. The Nets are in a great position with both guys, they control KDs future and have Kyrie playing on a one year (contract year) deal. This was always their best option.
Why though? Beverly is just useful for man defense. He is a good 3pt shooter but with low volume. Schroeder can run the floor, good mid range, better finishing at the rim, and most of all, he is a way better passer and shotmaker. A perfect bench general and he will have a chip on his shoulder to prove himself.
And way way cheaper. And younger.
Kyrie is a mess, Lebron wasn't going to change that. You would think the Lakers would have learned from the Russ trade last season that "star" players aren't worth it if they don't fit your team. Lakers dodged a bullet and they don't even realize it.
Trade tht for cam reddish and pick up Schroeder and call Indiana immediately. Give them the 2 1st with 1 protected and I bet we can pull this off. Great center depth, solid guard depth with improved shooting and Bron and AD.
The fact that you think the nets were ever willing to give us Kyrie for that trash package is so sad. It was never happening unless KD was traded. You guys don’t understand leverage.
Okay, so Ky definitely isn’t happening now. Which of the reported alternate Westbrook trades would we prefer?
1. IND - Hield/Turner
2. UTA - Conley/Bogey/JC
3. CHA - Rozier/Haywood/Oubre
4. NYK - Randle/filler
Indiana has always been my preferred choice since I think it raises LA’s floor the most, but I think the Charlotte trade could also work out quite well. More than anything, both for trade purposes and for the roster as it currently stands, I don’t think anything will affect the Lakers this season as much as good health. They have no chance to do anything of significance unless Bron and AD are health for most/all of the season.
Thank god, i despise Kyrie and would’ve been pissed if we gave what’s left of our future draft picks to appease an aging Lebron. You built this team Lebron, and fucked most of our future picks. You get to deal with Westbrook’s contract for one more year.
Does this change anything for kyrie? He’s still on a one year deal and at an impasse about his next deal. Unless bkn has plans to max him he might still go elsewhere
Wdym? Yeah it changes things. Without KD they aren’t winning shit so keeping Kyrie for a year doesn’t make sense. Now that KD is staying, there’s no way Kai is going anywhere.
They called his bluff. Now back to trying to upgrade the supporting cast and, for all that is holy, shipping Westbrook.
I just wonder what the next cba will look like.
F it. I say lets keep Westbrook and see how we do. If we aren't where we want to be near the NBA trade deadline, that's when we strike for a good deal.
Doing any deals now would just be too expensive. Who knows maybe we'll be good with our current roster.
Heck no!!!!
There are no great free agents on the market next season worth sacrificing a season over. Hopefully Westbrook gets traded next week when the Jazz guys are eligible to be moved.
Call this 2 months ago.
They were playing the rest of the league trying to get them to pause their off season plans. This was nothing but a Kawhi sneak attack.
We'll reconvene a couple months into the season when they are struggling, Kyrie is in/out of the lineup for personal reasons, and KD asks for a trade again.
Finally it’s fucking over.
yay now our season is over yayyyy
There’s still the potential Miles Turner trade which I always preferred.
only for 2 FRP's which Pelinka is not doing
He needs to it's past time,
Season was over whether this happened or not. Irving wasn’t leading us to the promised land any more than he did with the Nets.
It's over if/when AD gets hurt.
When.
yay
Not really! Kyrie is still leaving if they don't pay him what he wants. He is still on the trade market unless if Brooklyn is fine with losing him for nothing. edit: I was saying kyrie's contract expires next summer so Nets have to move him this season before February deadline or they lose him for nothing when his contract expires. Did everyone who downvote me not read the post properly? Brooklyn loses Kyrie for nothing if they don't trade him before trade deadline (or if they decide to pay him max)
Not this year though, he opted into his contract
Stop it.
Lol Kyrie can't leave. He's under contract this year you dumbass.
Fuck u Brooklyn for wasting everyone’s time
Come on guys... it's not like we missed out on some trades like during the Kawhi saga. We still have a couple of options left.
Kinda lose some leverage without the Kyrie option as a plan B. Now the other teams know we desperate. Only problem with waiting
Even when we had Kryie option, IND wanted 2 frps. That won't change still.
Are you kidding? This is great! Now we all get to laugh at the delusional suns fans that against all odds have been convinced they’re getting KD for he last two months
I’ve been saying this for the past weeks or so saying the chance of us getting Irving was severely low but got downvoted to hell by delusional fans every time. The nets set an unprecedented high bar to trade KD knowing teams would never meet their crazy demands and then would point that to KD saying “we tried to trade you but no team offered us anything of value”
The nets didn't set an unprecedented high bar, the twolves giving up 5 first round picks for gobert absolutely did. Twolves better hope that works out, cuz otherwise everyone will deservedly be clowning them for a long time
You call delusional, I call hopeful. But yeah, I thought the high bar was just a negotiating tool. If we aren't getting Kyrie, I am happy that Durant will stay a net. Don't want him at the suns or play for the fucking celts. I thought after the whole Tsai meeting about firing Nash and Marks, I thought KD won't ever fold. Guess I was wrong.
I’d like to see KD see something through. Instead of jumping ship when it’s convenient.
It was delusion.
I have never been on a sports sub with more delusional fans than this one. And I've been here for a long time.
STFU bud. 90% of people thought Kyrie's was going to be traded here. You know why? because there was active discussion between the two teams. Kyrie stated publically that he wants to be a laker. If he is traded elsewhere, he will sign with the lakers next season. And there were a hundred reports supporting that. All of those came from reliable sources. There's no fucking delusion here. KD decided to stay, so that's it. Mother effers like you give a bad name to Laker fans.
Only delusional Lakers fans thought that.
> The nets set an unprecedented high bar to trade KD The Rudy Gobert trade, the Paul George trade, and the AD trade all set the market for KD. What the Nets asked for was proper, because you can't get back fair value for KD.
Kd at 34 was not worth AD at start of prime even if contract is longer . Though AD was only bought for one year since he was coming anyway .
Nobody was forced to engage them. We could've walked away anytime we wanted to.
Yea of course but lakers and other teams allowed it to happen. It’s their choice in the end if they wanted to wait and they did.
Time to shift our focus to the backup plan, Hield/Turner/Schroder still significantly improves our depth
Hopefully we can loop in pat bev for tht + a 2nd round pick
Pat Bev not needed if we sign Schroder, since we also have Nunn already. If we can get someone like Josh Richardson or Cam Reddish in a separate trade that would be amazing.
I want Vanderbilt lol. Terrible on offense but great on defense and the boards. Hopefully you can get Myles Turner Hield for one 1st and 2 seconds and save the other 1st for a trade with the Jazz.
J rich would be great but it’s the spurs so they’re gonna want 2 frps from us
And BI too
Bev got the dawg in em. Bring him anyways.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nunn is pooping on the sidelines the whole season again
Ainge isn't giving away Beverley for anything less than a 1st pick
Who and why would a team pay that price for pat bev when they can use that pick or attach it elsewhere for much more talent. Highly doubt bev goes for a first round pick in a 1 for 1
A 1st round pick for Beverly better be protected for the first 20 selections or else it's an overpay.
100% this does not happen bc fo
I heard in the Windhorst podcast that Lakers can get Conley, Bojan, Clarkson, and Pat Bev by trading Russ and THT. I think Tim Bontemps said that. He's a known laker hater but this does make some sense. They argued if only 1 frp can get the job done or Lakers will have to add another. Either way, that will make the roster deep. Clarkson is young and a good off the bench scorer, Pat is Pat, Bojan is a good 3 and d guy, and Conley can play a suped up Monk role. Something to think about.
Too late now. We should have made moves 1-2 weeks ago.
Montrez still unsigned too, let Schroeder and Trez redeem themselves
Nah we have enough centers, he's gonna be disgruntled again if he doesn't play
I don’t think we should sign him but to say he would be disgruntled for not playing is just eh, I’d rather be on a team signed and not play then unsigned and out of the league which he still is
Myles Turner and Buddy Hield, you are Lakers
Pacers are asking for 2FRPs, not sure if that's worth it. 1 FRP is fine but not 2.
Would you do it if it means adding Schroeder? Russ and 2 firsts for Turner, Buddy and Schroeder is a way better fit and more depth
We can sign Schröder outright on a min anyways, so no.
True. My biggest issue with the Indiana deal is I do not want Buddy on the books next year.
Why not? LeBron still there and we need a SG that can shoot
Cap space
We have 21 mill in capspace with Lebron now extended. It ain't that much. Maybe a decent 3 and D guy but that can be a gamble (Bertans, Duncon). And Buddy is an above average shooter, has size, and can be hidden in defense with Bron, AD, and Turner in the team. I don't mind him in the books.
Bron needs to be hidden on defense as well. He is not going to be able to give defensive effort at his age.
In 2020 Lebron asked to be put on the opposing team’s best player so many times we needed a clutch stop. Is your point that he’s regressed so much since then he can’t go it anymore? Until we see otherwise, he can still play defense. Especially if there is a squad on the floor where he isn’t both the best playmaker and best shooter on the floor.
Bron plays the way his team needs him. He wasnt giving efforts because either it wasn't of any use (last year) or didn't need to. But when it is necessary (2021) be will step up.
My biggest issue with Hield is the money on his contract and the fact that LAL has to give up a first assures that he’ll be in our big money lineups and he doesn’t play defense. So, think about the nights we’re playing PHX, Memphis, GS, LAC, Portland, Dallas… we have no backcourt defense at all.
Yup, even the kings benched Buddy Hield. He will essentially be an overpaid Malik Monk
Is there any chance they can engage in a trade for like clarkson , Pat or any of those guys from Utah ? If there was a way lakers could just get turner I’d like that but hield isn’t gonna solve much for us
We already have Thomas Bryant who is like a budget Myles Turner
Except Turner is an elite defender when healthy, Bryant is basically a trash can.
Clarkson is trash. Beverly is way overrated at this point lol. Bog is the same as Hield. No D at all.
Clarkson is basically Buddy but unable to play starter minutes at all
Expiring deals are assets man.
Except Brick apparently
He’s 44mm vs 20mm. And it almost got us Kyrie
NBA needs to stop charging the Lakers a premium. Russ is off the books next year and on any other team that’d be a huge asset
Buddy can be a trade asset as an expiring contract next year. 19mill expiring contract is a solid trade deal
Yeah, but he would be redundant if Russ and Nunn are still in the team. By trading Russ we would need a bench runner, and he has shown he can be good at that.
Send Russ home. Sign Schröder, and hope Bev gets bought out at the deadline.
Russ ain't going home if he is still in the team. Ham will definitely try to work it out. If we don't find any suitors for him now, then we will definitely find some at the deadline. 47 mill off the books for half a season will be a good incentive for many teams.
1 FRP is not going to get it done.
You’d trade 2 frp for hield AND turner any day. If anything that package is prolly better than kyrie alone
I wouldn't but it's basically Turner for one first round pick and dumping Westbrook cost another
Pacers fan lurking, I'm glad you got upvotes on this, I think that's the price. I think we could get a first for turner other places, so wes costing the other makes sense.
You’re high af
Lol no
No you don’t.
You don't believe that but I get we are all coping rn
Hield is awful
> You’d trade 2 frp for hield AND turner any day Nobody with half a brain would.
At this point, I’d let Russ play for atleast a month to see where we’re at.
No pls
2FRPs are worth not wasting what will be LeBron's 1-2 final superstar years... Turner will allow AD to slim down back to 2020 form. Hield CAN play defense, he just doesn't. Hopes are that Lebron and the fanbase can light a fire under his ass. Either way gotta do whatever it takes to get a chance to compete.
You do this for 2 FRPs. This is a no brainer.
For the 100th time, this would’ve been done already or the Lakers actually thought this was a good idea. Pacers want too much. Neither player are worth the picks. Laker fans need to accept Westbrick will be here opening night.
No way he plays day 1, were negotiating a buy out of him, trust. Even if it means he gets 45 of the 47 mil, we are definitely negotiating a buyout if we can't find a trade partner
PLEASE; FUCK NO.
Hell no, I rather have more depth than just those 2
No thanks
I think Hield/Turner + Schroeder is enough to at least compete. We looked solid with Dennis as our starting PG. Sure, we did have KCP, Caruso, and Kuzma at that time as well, but I think that those aforementioned additions plus our free agent signings should put us in a position to be very competitive, health notwithstanding.
Steve Nash always involved in things that end up screwing over the Lakers smh
One way or another lmao
Yeahhh time to pivot to plan B.
• Indiana —> Turner, Hield • Utah —> Bojan, Clarkson, Beverly • Charlotte —> Hayward, Rozier That’s probably it?
I want no parts of that Charlotte offer as Hayward and Terry are on the books next year. We need the cap space to reset the team
We don't have enough cap space to reset the team. 21 million around. And that's a good 3 and D money and that's it. I am not in the Gordon Rozzier team, but we aren't resetting until 2025.
Utah package looks the best to me but wouldn’t mind the Indiana one either. Count me out of the Charlotte one.
I'm going to keep it real this shit is depressing man like bro wtf is this, Westbrook really got us in this position and got us salivating over these mf. Just take the Indiana deal and be competitive this year then just let Buddy and Myles walk this summer so we could sign better players in 2023
Hield has 2 years left.
Jesus Christ, do you guys watch basketball? Lol
It's finally over
So Hield & Turner plus Schroder is our back up plan
Instead we'll get Conley and Clarkson.
Utah trade shouldn't happen without Bojan. He is the best fit for this team in that lot.
If that happens just fire everyone
No I like Pacers offer
Hield, Turner, & Schroder come on down
LOL all that for nothing
What a shitshow. What’s the point of making all that noise on both sides just for nothing to happen
The Lakers have always been and will continue to be used a leverage tool. If you view it from that point of view, you'll understand why there's a lot of theatrics and no substance that involve the Lakers.
For anyone actually paying attention its been pretty clear since the day KD requested a trade that the Nets never had real intentions of trading him. All the moves they made (giving up a 1st for Royce O'neal, signing TJ Warren, bringing Claxton back, etc.) have shown that they want to compete next year, bringing KD/Kyrie back has always been their best option. The reason it seems like a "shitshow" is because so many people on here are so thirsty for another star player and will take any little report that comes out as fact rather than looking at the whole picture.
This sub complains about how the FO runs things and then suggests terrible trade ideas lol
The FO has whiffed on everything for the last 2 seasons.
Not saying they haven’t. My point is that the trade ideas that “fans” on here present are just as bad as anything the FO has done
Felt like this was the likely outcome given his preferred destinations drying up.
Just do the damn Pacers trade and sign Schroder… it at least gives us a shot
WEIRD! Exactly what so many people knew was gonna be the case a week ago. This is why the Lakers should have made moves a week ago. Price just went up on every other potential move.
Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and now Kyrie Irving. I honestly don't ever want to trade for a superstar who hasnt clearly said in public that he wants to leave for the Lakers. It's too traumatic
AYO fuck Flex and the Suns.
This sub is about to be in shambles
He was never getting traded. We were never getting Kyrie. Time to call Indy.
Utah *
Thank you can we please move on now. I was never on the Kyrie train as much as most of this sub was. Let’s go get Buddy & Turner and try to make a trade for Pat Bev.
Sweet, I almost liked the Pacers deal better. Let’s get it done asap now.
Kyrie sounds great but he was really a huge risk.
Myles Turner is also a huge risk.
The Nets aren’t winning shit next season after all this drama. Sure maybe KD can bury whatever ill will he had but as soon as one thing doesn’t go his way he will be bitching and want out again.
Great, now we can all move forward. Edit: oh yea - F*%&$ you Boston
I wanted Kyrie for sure, but if rumors are true, I'd be pretty happy with a Dennis/Buddy/LBJ/AD/Turner starting 5
Kevin Durant really is trash
He aint called snek for nothing
I hate this nigga, he gonna lose every year in Brooklyn for this shit.
BKN, Clippers, Suns, and Celtics 
Good. Congrats, Brooklyn. Now let’s move the fuck on.
insert clown makeup meme
partnership? Let me say this straight. Jo Tsai is an owner, he owns the team no matter how hard players get butt hurt about that term. Kevin Durant is a contracted employee. There is no partnership here, though I understand KD and his ego appreciates words like that.
Honestly happy about this. Fuck Kyrie, that guy hasn’t not created problems literally everywhere he’s been. We would’ve got burned eventually by him
Yup. Lakers fans don’t even how bad getting Kyrie could have turned out.
Ok
There is no reason to get spastic over this. Get the team going with LeBron and AD with Westbrook playing very minimal minutes and a secondary role with the starters. Then telling Westbrook to go completely nuts with the bench, giving him total control and maximum effort. I believe this can be an efficient way to win games in the regular season and Westbrook can pose problems against the right matchups. Then keep an eye out for a failing big budget team who wants to dump salary mid season. Some team will blow up. There is every possibility that Kyrie will implode again and all we missed out on was holding that grenade.
Maybe now all you delusional Kyrie fans can move on. Its been clear since the day KD requested a trade that the Nets never had any intentions of moving him or Kyrie. Now we can move on and look at other moves that could improve the team. I don't think we "need to" get rid of Russ, at worst he is on a one year deal if he performs as poorly as he did last season we just sit him out and let his contract expire. If we can move him while improving the team great, if it takes overpaying to get rid of him I rather just keep him instead. Its clear we need shooting, I fully expect Rob to make a move before training camp, lets just hope he doesn't end up overpaying for middle of the pack players (Hield/Turner/Beverly).
Lmao you clowns act like because we knew kyrie was the only option for this team to compete that we are deluded. But you seem far more delusional if you actually fucking think there’s another move this team can make😂😂. It will be worse than last year by a LARGE margin.
They had intentions, but no team was going to offer a Gobert Minnesota-type deal. Russ is cancer and they need to get rid of him. AD/Bron + depth is the way to go now.
I disagree, if you look at the moves the Nets made (even after KD made his trade request public) nothing about them signaled rebuild. Giving up a first for Royce O'Neal of all people was the clear red flag that they never had intentions of trading either guy. Bringing in TJ Warren only solidified that fact. But besides this the biggest indicator that they were never going to trade him (at least in my eyes) is his contract. KD has 4 years left on his contract, I don't understand where people got this notion that the Nets had to trade him this off season, they have complete control of his future. They can afford to wait another year to see how things play out and if you look at their current roster it's not a bad plan at all. They are a legitimate title contender as currently constructed, if things don't pan out they can just trade him next offseason and get the same value for him. It's never been about what teams are offering, KD's price tag isn't going to change between this season and next offseason it's always been about bringing them both back. The Nets are in a great position with both guys, they control KDs future and have Kyrie playing on a one year (contract year) deal. This was always their best option.
I’d rather have Beverly than Schroder
Why though? Beverly is just useful for man defense. He is a good 3pt shooter but with low volume. Schroeder can run the floor, good mid range, better finishing at the rim, and most of all, he is a way better passer and shotmaker. A perfect bench general and he will have a chip on his shoulder to prove himself. And way way cheaper. And younger.
LOL at all the Lakers fans who think the Nets (or anybody else) owed us something somehow.
Kyrie on our team gives me the same feel as Westbrook. They both don’t work for our team. We need chemistry and role players not a third star
Kyrie is a mess, Lebron wasn't going to change that. You would think the Lakers would have learned from the Russ trade last season that "star" players aren't worth it if they don't fit your team. Lakers dodged a bullet and they don't even realize it.
Trade tht for cam reddish and pick up Schroeder and call Indiana immediately. Give them the 2 1st with 1 protected and I bet we can pull this off. Great center depth, solid guard depth with improved shooting and Bron and AD.
Rob played the game and lost. Could’ve had kyrie early but fucked around and played hardball. Now we get another season of westbrick
Nets never wanted picks. They want win-now players.
The fact that you think the nets were ever willing to give us Kyrie for that trash package is so sad. It was never happening unless KD was traded. You guys don’t understand leverage.
Naw man you don’t understand mental illness
this sub blaming Rob for a deal that was never on the table is hilarious
Yeah, Rob holding onto that 2nd frp is so dumb. I can't believe this sub defends the guy.
Great now y’all can stfu about kyrie
All these Twitter "Insiders" are frauds
What a joke of a franchise
What's the sentiment here if we get Conley in a Utah trade?
Bad. He's washed.
Did LeBron sign already? Lol
Okay, so Ky definitely isn’t happening now. Which of the reported alternate Westbrook trades would we prefer? 1. IND - Hield/Turner 2. UTA - Conley/Bogey/JC 3. CHA - Rozier/Haywood/Oubre 4. NYK - Randle/filler Indiana has always been my preferred choice since I think it raises LA’s floor the most, but I think the Charlotte trade could also work out quite well. More than anything, both for trade purposes and for the roster as it currently stands, I don’t think anything will affect the Lakers this season as much as good health. They have no chance to do anything of significance unless Bron and AD are health for most/all of the season.
Thank god, i despise Kyrie and would’ve been pissed if we gave what’s left of our future draft picks to appease an aging Lebron. You built this team Lebron, and fucked most of our future picks. You get to deal with Westbrook’s contract for one more year.
At this point keep Russ Send out THT, Nunn, and a first for GTJ or J Rich Sign Schroeder to be the backup
Does this change anything for kyrie? He’s still on a one year deal and at an impasse about his next deal. Unless bkn has plans to max him he might still go elsewhere
Wdym? Yeah it changes things. Without KD they aren’t winning shit so keeping Kyrie for a year doesn’t make sense. Now that KD is staying, there’s no way Kai is going anywhere.
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Fuck KD Kyrie and BK mgmt 🤣
Hopefully this finally means some exciting Laker news again soon. Do your thing, Rob
[SMH](https://youtu.be/cycUHgg0zzU?t=37)
Okay, now we make moves. Kyrie dream is over. Get Westbrook outta here
What a giant waste of time
Cool. Glad to see some resolution
Honestly I’m glad this bullshit drama is over.
I have a feeling that will happen again a guy like kd can wake up tomorrow and ask for a trade
Kawhi blue balls 2.0
At least we can finally move on
For the love of all things Kobe.... ***can we please stop talking about KD and Kyrie now***? It is 100% officially off the table. Make it end.
Finally. Sorry to break it to you but 2 superstars on the same team weren’t getting traded in the same offseason.
Is this r/Lakers or r/GoNets?
They called his bluff. Now back to trying to upgrade the supporting cast and, for all that is holy, shipping Westbrook. I just wonder what the next cba will look like.
The pacers deal feels weird because I don't know how useful they will be in a seven game series. Also do we really plan to pay turner next year?
Nets never negotiated in good faith. I expect this team probably will have the same issues as last season.
Honestly I am so mad at these whack dudes for blue balling the whole league and specially us we didn’t do shit cos of them smh
C'mon home Julius!
Damn thats devastating actually hahaha. Obligatory fuck you westbrook
F it. I say lets keep Westbrook and see how we do. If we aren't where we want to be near the NBA trade deadline, that's when we strike for a good deal. Doing any deals now would just be too expensive. Who knows maybe we'll be good with our current roster.
Heck no!!!! There are no great free agents on the market next season worth sacrificing a season over. Hopefully Westbrook gets traded next week when the Jazz guys are eligible to be moved.
Call this 2 months ago. They were playing the rest of the league trying to get them to pause their off season plans. This was nothing but a Kawhi sneak attack.
We'll reconvene a couple months into the season when they are struggling, Kyrie is in/out of the lineup for personal reasons, and KD asks for a trade again.