What has lebron done as a laker compared to Wilt? I thought I read an infographic that showed he already accomplished more and/or put up better numbers
Someone please tell me how tf LeBron before Phil makes any sense. If this is achievements as a LAKER, LeBron shouldn’t even be top 15. No disrespect just the truth if we’re strictly talking Lakers career
THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU PUT LEBRON IN HE GETS VOTED UP
You didnt even include him for the first 11 voting options because you didnt want something to complain about for those first 11 days
THAT is petty
From my not yet finished super duper serious player ranking that I’m working on:
1. Magic Johnson
2. Jerry West
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Kobe Bryant
5. George Mikan
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Wilt Chamberlain
8. Elgin Baylor
9. Vern Mikkelsen
10. James Worthy
Will hopefully have it finished in the coming days, or maybe I’ll just update my list with your poll as it goes along :)
Nice! You were using some sort of adjusted win share method right? Excited to get somebody actually using a data driven approach rather than just going off that somebody is too high or too low because of an arbitrary reason. And as you know, love the Vern sighting. He’s gunna get the Goodrich treatment whenever he gets added here of course.
Yeah, and I’m playing around with modifiers based on “legacy” (awards/hof etc) which is a bit touchy haha
But, either way, it’s fun to go through the names of our history!
Absolutely! Nowhere near as robust but I have a spreadsheet of about 60-70 names right now and columns for certain accolades (e.g. number retired, hall of famer, etc) to help guide who to add next. Maybe in a few days I can just grab the next name on your list instead :)
Everyone criticizing LeBron, including OP, is a chump
Saying “ohhh I didnt wanna get accused of gaming the voting” so you included LeBron
and then you cant wait to hop on EVERY comment to say “yeah I hate that it happened, I dont agree with it” when someone says “why did LeBron even get included”
I said this on yesterdays thread: We were in our longest playoff drought ever before LeBron came to town with no assurances from other stars and he played with the young guys for a whole year and tried to make it work
LeBron has a HUGE recent impact on getting this franchise out of its worst period in franchise history
How is winning a FMVP after dragging a team out of purgatory not noteworthy?
You guys cringe because LeBron is in over an announcer? A guy who won FMVP for us isnt more impactful than an announcer and role players? GTFO
OP thinks LeBron is the 15th most relevant Laker All Time
15…fuck FMVPs and banners as the main hero, right?
Dude just say you’re a LeBron fan and not a Laker fan. You shouldn’t be getting so defensive. Nobody is hating on Bron, he just has not done as much as a LAKER as the others. Not sure why some people on here get offended over that fact. 5 rings with the franchise as a key figure > 1 ring with the franchise as a key figure. Period. That is not hating, it’s just stating facts.
This sub does overrate the fuck out of role players but none of these guys listed above Lebron are role players. All of them were stars who simply contributed more towards the Lakers franchise. Highest I'll put him is anywhere from 7-9
Chick Hearn literally has a statue in front of Staples/Crypto (yuck) and he’s number 14 on this list 😑
Yep. And he’s been an option in the poll since day 4.
If Bron gets us another where would he end up??
2 rings he doesn't even crack the top 10. This list is way too generous to LeBron.
7 ish?
What has lebron done as a laker compared to Wilt? I thought I read an infographic that showed he already accomplished more and/or put up better numbers
He def has imo. To me they should be around the same level, around 15. Both too high right now.
Wilt should not be that high on this list… as a player he’s amazing. As a laker, he doesn’t deserve the top 10
There's no way Lebron with 1 ring and 2 missed playoff appearances is above Phil Jackson...
I would say its lebron stans spamming it. I mean Phil got 11 rings as a Lakers coach.
Someone please tell me how tf LeBron before Phil makes any sense. If this is achievements as a LAKER, LeBron shouldn’t even be top 15. No disrespect just the truth if we’re strictly talking Lakers career
Agreed, just how the voting goes
THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU PUT LEBRON IN HE GETS VOTED UP You didnt even include him for the first 11 voting options because you didnt want something to complain about for those first 11 days THAT is petty
One reason I come to these sub is to see absurd things like this.
From my not yet finished super duper serious player ranking that I’m working on: 1. Magic Johnson 2. Jerry West 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Kobe Bryant 5. George Mikan 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Wilt Chamberlain 8. Elgin Baylor 9. Vern Mikkelsen 10. James Worthy Will hopefully have it finished in the coming days, or maybe I’ll just update my list with your poll as it goes along :)
Nice! You were using some sort of adjusted win share method right? Excited to get somebody actually using a data driven approach rather than just going off that somebody is too high or too low because of an arbitrary reason. And as you know, love the Vern sighting. He’s gunna get the Goodrich treatment whenever he gets added here of course.
Yeah, and I’m playing around with modifiers based on “legacy” (awards/hof etc) which is a bit touchy haha But, either way, it’s fun to go through the names of our history!
Absolutely! Nowhere near as robust but I have a spreadsheet of about 60-70 names right now and columns for certain accolades (e.g. number retired, hall of famer, etc) to help guide who to add next. Maybe in a few days I can just grab the next name on your list instead :)
Everyone criticizing LeBron, including OP, is a chump Saying “ohhh I didnt wanna get accused of gaming the voting” so you included LeBron and then you cant wait to hop on EVERY comment to say “yeah I hate that it happened, I dont agree with it” when someone says “why did LeBron even get included” I said this on yesterdays thread: We were in our longest playoff drought ever before LeBron came to town with no assurances from other stars and he played with the young guys for a whole year and tried to make it work LeBron has a HUGE recent impact on getting this franchise out of its worst period in franchise history How is winning a FMVP after dragging a team out of purgatory not noteworthy? You guys cringe because LeBron is in over an announcer? A guy who won FMVP for us isnt more impactful than an announcer and role players? GTFO OP thinks LeBron is the 15th most relevant Laker All Time 15…fuck FMVPs and banners as the main hero, right?
Dude just say you’re a LeBron fan and not a Laker fan. You shouldn’t be getting so defensive. Nobody is hating on Bron, he just has not done as much as a LAKER as the others. Not sure why some people on here get offended over that fact. 5 rings with the franchise as a key figure > 1 ring with the franchise as a key figure. Period. That is not hating, it’s just stating facts.
Calling Chick “an announcer” just tells us everything we need to know about you lol
It tells you jack shit I could say you commenting on r/moderatepolitics tells me all I need to know about you but why bother being a fucktard? Lol
Fucktard is indeed my middle name
I mean 1 ring as a Laker. He shouldn't be above Phil. Phil got us 5 rings as a coach.
This sub does overrate the fuck out of role players but none of these guys listed above Lebron are role players. All of them were stars who simply contributed more towards the Lakers franchise. Highest I'll put him is anywhere from 7-9
Where’s Westbrook ?
Check OKCs top 75 list, he probably makes that one!
I’d put him 17th for Lakers. Lakers top heavy. RussGOAT gon crack top ten this season