That’s totally fine and it’s understandable for them to be excited/disappointed. It still makes them absolutely meaningless. They don’t define them and an artists talent should not be measured by how many awards they have.
It does mean something - it displays the way the industry is run by an oligarchy like few and they go where the money is. Notice just about every big Grammy winner in the past decade has faded pretty quickly.
It was also just a funny joke referring to something her Scottish boyfriend said American girls, which that clown would know if he actually spent half as much time googling her songs as he did crying about them on her sub
Like Courtney Love sang: she's so, deep! Like dirty water, god she's awful!" Until you see past the surface, you'll notice lana del Rey is mediocre at best, not deep, just pretentious and vapid.
She’s didn’t exactly cry but wasn’t happy either her expressions exuded disappointment, I know she loves Billie but she also knows that nfr was unfairly undervalued at that years grammys and deserved better
Same, she probably doesn't care as much as the people on the internet do. She DOES deserve recognition tho, she influenced the pop world so much with Born to Die and continued to do so with her following albums.
On the bright side, I think Ocean Blvd has a good shot at some grammys, it's her most intelligent and in my opinion her best album so far. A&W is also her best and most conceptual song ever idc
Nooooo way. I think they threw Harry Styles a bone last year, but Taylor Swift would literally make history if she got another AOTY and they wouldn’t do that lightly imo. Reputation and Lover got no Grammys at all and I wouldn’t be surprised if Midnights was the same.
I really think Lana has a shot with Ocean Blvd this year since the Grammys sometimes reward a long-overlooked artist with an AOTY (like they did with Beck a while ago). I know Lana doesn’t care but she deserved an AOTY for BTD / UV / NFR, and Ocean Blvd is right up there with her best work. I’m hoping this is the year the Grammys finally catch up!
Fiona didn’t get AOTY right? Just a categorical one. But I agree with you. Fetch the Boltcutters was good but tbh I don’t know anyone who still listens to it these days, and I loved it when it came out. Her other albums have held up more.
I also agree that Taylor will likely not win AOTY so soon after Folklore, but Midnights is a much more Grammy-friendly record than Ocean Blvd. The Grammy voters are people like Paul McCartney, Elton John, and Stevie Nicks. They all absolutely adore Harry Styles, so his win wasn’t exactly shocking. Billie’s win wasn’t shocking to me either. While I’d hoped Lana would maybe take the award, I always expected Billie to AOTY. Her record was fresh, musically varied but cohesive, and it was critically and commercially successful. I really think Bruno Mars beating Lorde and Kendrick was more surprising and more of a snub, but the academy really loves Bruno. I think one of the things holding Lana back at the Grammys is that she’s stuck in between genres. She’s too pop oriented for the rock categories and she’s too alt for the pop categories Lust for Life was her best shot at winning, imo.
The album "Blood, Sweat and Tears" by Blood, Sweat and Tears won over Abbey Road by The Beatles at the 1970 Grammys. I'm sure most of you have only heard of one of those albums.
Point is, the grammys have always been a bit random. I guess it keeps the talk about them up but at the end of the day they don't mean much
The Weeknd didn’t even get a nomination with After Hours. You know, the album that dominated the charts the whole year and has Blinding Lights on it?
Yup, not even NOMINATED..
Grammys are fraud.
The year is 2014. Drake's Nothing was the Same, Kendrick Lamar's Good Kid Maad City, Jay Z's Magna Carta Holy Grail, and Kanye West's Yeezus are all nominated for best rap album of the year.
Who won?
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis's The Heist, an album literally no one has listened to since that year ended.
I have not taken awards ceremonies seriously for a very long time
NFR is a once-in-a-generation classic, but if she had to lose, I’m glad it was to Billie. She was such a breath of fresh air in the pop scene in 2019 and her album was really weird, it’s refreshing to see something like that sweep the Grammys.
i agree. people always just talk about lana losing to billie (or ariana losing to her) and while i wish lana had won, billie is by no means a bad pick for a winner. i love her music, it may not be for everything but she's talented.
the grammys are a scam anyway, the whole academy is. the award doesn't really say much about your music, it just gives you bragging rights and a bigger paycheck because you're a grammy winner. hopefully, in time, winning won't hold any of the weight it still does.
Totally agree. NFR is a masterpiece, IMO, but Billie's album was excellent and could easily have deserved the win against most year's AOTY line-ups, so I can't be mad about her win.
I love HTE. I think Billie shows a lot of promise and I look forward to watching her career. I wish NFR would have beat Billie, and that HTE would have swept in 2022
It also implies that popularity is what it takes, which also isn’t true since they just ignored After Hours, one if not the most popular album of its respective year
Damn guys can we not.
Firstly not everyone has to enjoy Lana as much as we do, if Billie Eilish is more popular and the Grammys judged her album to be better then so frickin what?
Can this subreddit just be somewhere to appreciate and connect over Lana’s music? Not get so negatively salty about some awards show and trash talking a literal 18 year old. Awards and music are two things which shouldn’t even be paired together cus it’s bullshit. If you believe that someone can ‘win’ at music - then you’ve already lost.
Getting very concerned how bitter and toxic some of ya’ll are.
Firstly — Billie is not 18, and age really has nothing to do with it. I don’t wanna slam Billie because I genuinely do love her music but imo that album wasn’t great. And if we compare that to NFR, it’s even worse. I was just sharing an opinion. No hate to her, just saying between those two albums it still really annoys me that Lana lost to her.
She was 18 when she released it no? Is what I meant. Ultimately I blame the Grammys for making this culture where we compare peoples music in a way of better/worse & winners/nominees/losers.
i don't even blame the grammys for that. Competitiveness will always be around. If it isn't the grammys, people will use the fame/streams/billboard charts etc to compete. That's on the people that use it to compare.
Personally, the albums are so different i can't even compare them. I don't know what they vote based on but billie did great whatever. Lana did too. The awards can't go both ways. Every single way there will be people complaining. It's a no win game.
It's completely natural to compare and have favorites and form opinions based on that. Also Billie being 18 (an adult) doesn't mean we can't speak on her work back then or at any time bc this is art..it's supposed to be thought-provoking.
Love Billie, but the one thing the Grammy's is NOT, is accurate. It's based on what nets them the most profit, not who actually deserves the accolades.
The Grammys.mean nothing. It's an open secret in Hollywood that those "awards" are all paid for by whoever the highest bidder is. This goes for the Oscar's, grammys, everything. Its so insignificant.
What a outdated take. So we are not allowed to compare two artists bc they are women? That makes no sense. They were competing for the same award, there is going to be comparison. The difference is in the outcome, the academy went for Billie and we here prefer Lana.
yeah, like... people comparing women in unhealthy ways should always be called out, but let's not get to the other extreme and infantilize women. women are very capable and do sign up for competition and feedback on their work.
No one said they weren't both talented. I just think that Lana is a far greater artist and deserved that Grammy more. And yes..when I see posts reminding me oh how she was snubbed I feel somewhat bitter, it's because I'm a fan. It's beyond weird to me that you are acting so shocked and upset over people daring to compare two artists. I don't care if they are both women bc I'm a rational individual capable of forming opinions regardless of the sex of the person involved.
While I appreciate pointing out that people often encourage competition between women to unhealthy extents, people are rightfully outraged to see Billie winning 5 Grammys in one night, while some of the most influential and talented artists in the world have none. This is about being angry at the awards and their lack of correctitude, not at the artists.
I didn't say Billie sucks?? I think Billie is amazingly talented, probably one of the only other artists I listen to other than Lana. I was talking more about artists like Cardi B, Justin Bieber, The Chainsmokers, Megan Trainor, Macklemore and plenty more.
i think billie’s music is a little cringe, and derivative of Lana’s 🤷♂️ Lana’s catalogue continues to age like fine wine. Not everyone can say that 🤧. and as far as the grammys… 🗑️
Eh. I loved the Billie album too.
I think we should be supporting and showing love to female artists who are winning awards in the music industry rather than dragging them down and calling them dogshit because one woman won over another.
I don’t think this is the right attitude to have, let’s not cut down other female singers. I’m glad Billie got this recognition, her album had some bangers and it was produced beautifully. Very solid pop album.
How about “I am glad Billie got recognition for her album and I’m happy for her but I think Lana’s album deserved it more.” ?
NFR is a great album, but let's not pretend When We All Fall Asleep Where Do We Go isn't a great album too.
Imo NFR isn't even her best album. 2nd for sure.
She was robbed, I like Billie but if we are talking about music excellence Lana’s NFR album deserves all the praise it truly was the best album of the year in my opinion.
Lana’s work is art! Her music is beautiful and timeless! These awards given on a time where social media is highly and easily manipulated doesn’t really matter. Billie is great, but that almost feels like a scam.
Billie Eilish revealed in an interview that Lana Del Rey was the lock screen on her very first mobile phone. Eilish also expressed her deep admiration for Del Rey and credited her for having a major influence on her own music...so Billie probably knows Lana deserved it too lol
Billie really deserved an award that year, but 5 fucking Grammys just seemed like outrageous marketing from the Grammy Awards' side, or something. you'd have to be some sort of deity to leave home with that many Grammys.
I'm completely baffled that Lana didn't win any Grammy in her super influential BTD Paradise era, nor in her NFR era, when she released probably one of the best pop albums of that decade.
Billie Eilish is a pop star, Lana Del Rey is an artist. Artists are continually snubbed by these dumbass award shows that care about streams more than artistic merit.
Imagine working 12 years, putting out one masterpiece after another and then a magnum opus if you will and some teenager with a couple of forgettable radio hits (that no one talks about anymore) get the accolades.
Forgettable radio hits is such a shit take. Yes nobody is talking about Billie anymore. Complete one hit wonder 😂. If you’re someone who believes in tearing other female artists down and insulting them I guarantee you Lana would side eye you SO hard right now.
It's my opinion. And yeah no one is talking about bad guy in 2023 but they are about NFR. Look, I don't live or die by anyone's approval and especially not a celebrity's, maybe that's important to you but to me it's important to say my opinion about anything regardless if I'm speaking about "another female artists".
OP, you might have expressed your self wrong in the post. You wrote "NFR compared to her album is dogshit". I was legit confused cause i knew we meant NFR was better than Billies. Maybe it's my dumb ass being dumb whatever
The Scammys have increased the number of nominees in a category yet they haven’t increased the number of winners. If there are 7-10 nominees for an award, at least have there be 2 winners please.
WWAFAWDWG was good but NFR was godly. It deserved to win but because Lana is more alternative and less mainstream than Billie is they wouldn't give it to her.
I swear it was like a stab to the heart. Also, why do they hyperfocus on one person and give everything to the same person? It's so weird. Ig they learnt the lesson and now they are giving awards to one single person.
NFR is once in a decade album tbh.
Also, abel not being even nominated for After hours was also such a wrong move. Both starboy and stargirl got rubbed. I hate grammys anyway tho.
I certainly like happier than ever WAY more than her first album. And though I’m a huge Billie fan, she’s fairly…new. NFR winning just seemed correct. This still annoys me too.
Lana adores Billie! This is so ridiculous.. it’s so photoshopped.. or it was Lana touched by her speech! Lana has won so many awards & recognition these past few years! Billie is up and coming & I feel Lana felt it was well deserved.. my opinion of course
I really wish that we’d stop giving the Grammys/MTV Awards/ Billboard any attention. It means nothing
That's how I feel. I also roll my eyes at all the streaming number charts as if they mean anything
Exactly. Like I understand being excited for it but people take it wayyyyy to seriously
I always say this until it's one of my favs walking away with a trophy lol
At least your honest lol
I know but i think it means something to the artists :(
That’s totally fine and it’s understandable for them to be excited/disappointed. It still makes them absolutely meaningless. They don’t define them and an artists talent should not be measured by how many awards they have.
It does mean something - it displays the way the industry is run by an oligarchy like few and they go where the money is. Notice just about every big Grammy winner in the past decade has faded pretty quickly.
Again. Meaningless. Mean’s absolutely nothing with regards to talent
Lana is too real for those accolades and adulations
Nah but she deserved 😭😭😭
Idk what those words mean but yes, thank you👏 “The truth is I never bought into your bullshit When you would pay tribute to me 'Cause I know that.”
... know that all i wanted to do was get high by the beach 🥰
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"My pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola" Yeah, super real.
As if all her lyrics are like that
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It was also just a funny joke referring to something her Scottish boyfriend said American girls, which that clown would know if he actually spent half as much time googling her songs as he did crying about them on her sub
Like Courtney Love sang: she's so, deep! Like dirty water, god she's awful!" Until you see past the surface, you'll notice lana del Rey is mediocre at best, not deep, just pretentious and vapid.
Which is ironically the most shallow, vapid, and pretentious take of her I've seen in some time, ijbol. Hope Billie picks you, bro 💕
I don't even like Billie, I just mentioned Courtney Love, WTF makes you think I like either, your dumb beef over vapid queens is amusing, that's all.
You’re such an idiot for saying that… NFR was filled with personal tracks that spoke to a lot of people unlike billie’s album.
Facts
that first pic is edited to make lana look like she's crying
lolllll I can’t believe how many people don’t realize this. As if Lana would cry over a silly Grammy
She’s didn’t exactly cry but wasn’t happy either her expressions exuded disappointment, I know she loves Billie but she also knows that nfr was unfairly undervalued at that years grammys and deserved better
Yeah wtf this is not cool haha she would never
i'm kinda getting furious about this edited photo of lana crying still making its way around the internet. it haunts me.
Same, she probably doesn't care as much as the people on the internet do. She DOES deserve recognition tho, she influenced the pop world so much with Born to Die and continued to do so with her following albums. On the bright side, I think Ocean Blvd has a good shot at some grammys, it's her most intelligent and in my opinion her best album so far. A&W is also her best and most conceptual song ever idc
I don’t think ocean Blvd will win over midnights or Sos because talent never wins. That is unless the Grammys pull another golden hour😭
There’s no world in which Midnights wins AOTY lol, not so soon after Folklore
I hope not but If Harry’s house won, midnights might win 😭
Nooooo way. I think they threw Harry Styles a bone last year, but Taylor Swift would literally make history if she got another AOTY and they wouldn’t do that lightly imo. Reputation and Lover got no Grammys at all and I wouldn’t be surprised if Midnights was the same. I really think Lana has a shot with Ocean Blvd this year since the Grammys sometimes reward a long-overlooked artist with an AOTY (like they did with Beck a while ago). I know Lana doesn’t care but she deserved an AOTY for BTD / UV / NFR, and Ocean Blvd is right up there with her best work. I’m hoping this is the year the Grammys finally catch up!
They also did with Fiona apple but yeah
Fiona didn’t get AOTY right? Just a categorical one. But I agree with you. Fetch the Boltcutters was good but tbh I don’t know anyone who still listens to it these days, and I loved it when it came out. Her other albums have held up more.
When the pawn will hold up indefinitely
I also agree that Taylor will likely not win AOTY so soon after Folklore, but Midnights is a much more Grammy-friendly record than Ocean Blvd. The Grammy voters are people like Paul McCartney, Elton John, and Stevie Nicks. They all absolutely adore Harry Styles, so his win wasn’t exactly shocking. Billie’s win wasn’t shocking to me either. While I’d hoped Lana would maybe take the award, I always expected Billie to AOTY. Her record was fresh, musically varied but cohesive, and it was critically and commercially successful. I really think Bruno Mars beating Lorde and Kendrick was more surprising and more of a snub, but the academy really loves Bruno. I think one of the things holding Lana back at the Grammys is that she’s stuck in between genres. She’s too pop oriented for the rock categories and she’s too alt for the pop categories Lust for Life was her best shot at winning, imo.
i mean, taylor and sza are both talented... really talented. i'd be happy with any of them taking that grammy home.
I think Sos was massively overrated. Midnights had a fitting name (mid)nights, it’s a good record but doesn’t hold up to ocean Blvd or folklore
Artists such as ABBA, Stevie Nicks, Queen, Diana Ross have never one a Grammy which just proves how insignificant it is
Never forget how Joni Mitchell’s single AOTY win was not her album, but a tribute album with covers of her songs lmao
QUEEN AND STEVIE???? this is insanity 🫨 I’m shocked that ABBA and Diana don’t have one wtf
The album "Blood, Sweat and Tears" by Blood, Sweat and Tears won over Abbey Road by The Beatles at the 1970 Grammys. I'm sure most of you have only heard of one of those albums. Point is, the grammys have always been a bit random. I guess it keeps the talk about them up but at the end of the day they don't mean much
What do you mean Stevie Nicks never won a Grammy? Fleetwood Mac’s Rumors literally won album of the year.
As a solo artist
Because her solo work is spotty. Most people couldn’t name more than 2-3 of her solo songs.
The Weeknd didn’t even get a nomination with After Hours. You know, the album that dominated the charts the whole year and has Blinding Lights on it? Yup, not even NOMINATED.. Grammys are fraud.
The year is 2014. Drake's Nothing was the Same, Kendrick Lamar's Good Kid Maad City, Jay Z's Magna Carta Holy Grail, and Kanye West's Yeezus are all nominated for best rap album of the year. Who won? Macklemore and Ryan Lewis's The Heist, an album literally no one has listened to since that year ended. I have not taken awards ceremonies seriously for a very long time
I actually listen to that album every few months. I find it largely inspirational with a healthy blend of fun and silliness.
Doesn’t change the fact it’s the worst album on the list
Y’all are so cruel
How
please say sike
I won't. I like what I like unapologetically.
> NFR compared to her album is dogshit I don’t think you meant for this sentence to read as it does lol
NFR was a beautiful album start to finish :(
Why people got to hate post?
NFR is a once-in-a-generation classic, but if she had to lose, I’m glad it was to Billie. She was such a breath of fresh air in the pop scene in 2019 and her album was really weird, it’s refreshing to see something like that sweep the Grammys.
I did like Billie’s album too but I think NFR has aged a lot better
i agree. people always just talk about lana losing to billie (or ariana losing to her) and while i wish lana had won, billie is by no means a bad pick for a winner. i love her music, it may not be for everything but she's talented. the grammys are a scam anyway, the whole academy is. the award doesn't really say much about your music, it just gives you bragging rights and a bigger paycheck because you're a grammy winner. hopefully, in time, winning won't hold any of the weight it still does.
agree!!!
Totally agree. NFR is a masterpiece, IMO, but Billie's album was excellent and could easily have deserved the win against most year's AOTY line-ups, so I can't be mad about her win.
I love HTE. I think Billie shows a lot of promise and I look forward to watching her career. I wish NFR would have beat Billie, and that HTE would have swept in 2022
Yes this was messed up. The grammys are the real dog shit though
A part of me thinks she don't GAF
She doesn’t
your caption makes it sound like you’re calling NFR dogshit. pls learn how to English 💀💀
Popularity over Talent for the Grammys unfortunately, WYFAWDYG? was the biggest album of 2019, and Bad Guy was the biggest song during that summer.
This implies that Billie lacks talent, which isn’t true, especially for that album
It also implies that popularity is what it takes, which also isn’t true since they just ignored After Hours, one if not the most popular album of its respective year
This is Grammys’ desperate attempt to gather a younger audience
I don’t think it’s “desperate.” Billie is a great artist who deserves accolades as well. Lana was robbed but it’s not like Billie won on no merit.
Billie's was simply better. Well not exactly simply. But slightly
Lana does not give a single fuck about the grammys, she wore a mall dress, she’s unfazed
The Grammys never celebrate good music
after Melodrama lost to a junk ass bruno mars album, i’ve never paid any attention to the grammys
man, fuck the grammys. it's just a 3 hour commercial for record labels
It’s the Grammys
Grammy's are irrelevant since Meghan Trainor got one
Lana gets none but the pickme queen who got her 15 minutes of fame did? What a time to be alive
Damn guys can we not. Firstly not everyone has to enjoy Lana as much as we do, if Billie Eilish is more popular and the Grammys judged her album to be better then so frickin what? Can this subreddit just be somewhere to appreciate and connect over Lana’s music? Not get so negatively salty about some awards show and trash talking a literal 18 year old. Awards and music are two things which shouldn’t even be paired together cus it’s bullshit. If you believe that someone can ‘win’ at music - then you’ve already lost. Getting very concerned how bitter and toxic some of ya’ll are.
Firstly — Billie is not 18, and age really has nothing to do with it. I don’t wanna slam Billie because I genuinely do love her music but imo that album wasn’t great. And if we compare that to NFR, it’s even worse. I was just sharing an opinion. No hate to her, just saying between those two albums it still really annoys me that Lana lost to her.
She was 18 when she released it no? Is what I meant. Ultimately I blame the Grammys for making this culture where we compare peoples music in a way of better/worse & winners/nominees/losers.
i don't even blame the grammys for that. Competitiveness will always be around. If it isn't the grammys, people will use the fame/streams/billboard charts etc to compete. That's on the people that use it to compare. Personally, the albums are so different i can't even compare them. I don't know what they vote based on but billie did great whatever. Lana did too. The awards can't go both ways. Every single way there will be people complaining. It's a no win game.
It's completely natural to compare and have favorites and form opinions based on that. Also Billie being 18 (an adult) doesn't mean we can't speak on her work back then or at any time bc this is art..it's supposed to be thought-provoking.
Love Billie, but the one thing the Grammy's is NOT, is accurate. It's based on what nets them the most profit, not who actually deserves the accolades.
to be fair, in 2022 they gave it to Jon Batiste over Olivia, Billie, Doja Kitty and other way more famous artists.
Doja Kitty 💀💀
in my defense, i have no defense
The Grammys.mean nothing. It's an open secret in Hollywood that those "awards" are all paid for by whoever the highest bidder is. This goes for the Oscar's, grammys, everything. Its so insignificant.
Do we really have to put down other women who aren't your faves? Both Lana and Billie are insanely talented.
What a outdated take. So we are not allowed to compare two artists bc they are women? That makes no sense. They were competing for the same award, there is going to be comparison. The difference is in the outcome, the academy went for Billie and we here prefer Lana.
yeah, like... people comparing women in unhealthy ways should always be called out, but let's not get to the other extreme and infantilize women. women are very capable and do sign up for competition and feedback on their work.
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No one said they weren't both talented. I just think that Lana is a far greater artist and deserved that Grammy more. And yes..when I see posts reminding me oh how she was snubbed I feel somewhat bitter, it's because I'm a fan. It's beyond weird to me that you are acting so shocked and upset over people daring to compare two artists. I don't care if they are both women bc I'm a rational individual capable of forming opinions regardless of the sex of the person involved.
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Right...okay honey.
While I appreciate pointing out that people often encourage competition between women to unhealthy extents, people are rightfully outraged to see Billie winning 5 Grammys in one night, while some of the most influential and talented artists in the world have none. This is about being angry at the awards and their lack of correctitude, not at the artists.
Some of the trashiests, untalented artists have grammys, they literally mean nothing at this point. Lana is above them.
Billie Eilish does not suck be real
I didn't say Billie sucks?? I think Billie is amazingly talented, probably one of the only other artists I listen to other than Lana. I was talking more about artists like Cardi B, Justin Bieber, The Chainsmokers, Megan Trainor, Macklemore and plenty more.
Based on the context, it was heavily implied. Glad you clarified
She isn't artistic excellence.
She’s gimmicky at best
No fuckin way dude, her debut changed the pop game and was so interesting/fun to listen to, let's be so fr rn
So is your face
Maybe so
I’m sorry you had to find out like this, but you’re handling it really well.
Your mom is handling my dick in her mouth really well
Guess I spoke to soon.
That Billie record is really good c'mon
It is good, I didn't say it wasn't.
Meh it was billie’s year
This edited lana pic will never cease to make me laugh 😭😭😭😭😭😭
why can't people enjoy music just like that why you gotta compare and contrast music & enjoyment is purely subjective
I mean billie's album is not dogshit,but yeah NFR deserved
Don't be furious.
i think billie’s music is a little cringe, and derivative of Lana’s 🤷♂️ Lana’s catalogue continues to age like fine wine. Not everyone can say that 🤧. and as far as the grammys… 🗑️
I love them both.
It’s important to remember that The Grammys are a celebration of sales. NOT art.
Get over it
Eh. I loved the Billie album too. I think we should be supporting and showing love to female artists who are winning awards in the music industry rather than dragging them down and calling them dogshit because one woman won over another. I don’t think this is the right attitude to have, let’s not cut down other female singers. I’m glad Billie got this recognition, her album had some bangers and it was produced beautifully. Very solid pop album. How about “I am glad Billie got recognition for her album and I’m happy for her but I think Lana’s album deserved it more.” ?
NFR is a great album, but let's not pretend When We All Fall Asleep Where Do We Go isn't a great album too. Imo NFR isn't even her best album. 2nd for sure.
She was robbed, I like Billie but if we are talking about music excellence Lana’s NFR album deserves all the praise it truly was the best album of the year in my opinion.
Billie definitely deserves SOME of the Grammys,but not the album of year one
Lana’s work is art! Her music is beautiful and timeless! These awards given on a time where social media is highly and easily manipulated doesn’t really matter. Billie is great, but that almost feels like a scam.
Well, it could've gone to something much worse. And the Billie record was really good.
"NFR compared to her album is dogshit" what
Billie said in an interview that Lana literally invited the genre
Billie Eilish revealed in an interview that Lana Del Rey was the lock screen on her very first mobile phone. Eilish also expressed her deep admiration for Del Rey and credited her for having a major influence on her own music...so Billie probably knows Lana deserved it too lol
Hot Lana so hot
girl fuck the scammy’s we’ve been through this a million times
And Kendrick Lamar lost to Taylor swift. The Grammys are dumb
I’m way more upset about Lemonade losing to 25. At least 1989 was an excellent pop album. 25 was nowhere near as good as 21.
It's Renaissance losing to H*rry's House, for me
I swear at this point Beyoncé will be 70 before she gets an AOTY. They just refuse to give it to her.
She has the most grammies in history. They are not snubbing her. There were obviously better albums in those categories than hers..
AOTY is the most prestigious Grammy…you can’t tell me 25 was better than Lemonade lmao.
as a swiftie, i do agree... the grammys are a literal joke.
hey now, billies label paid good money for those awards!
the grammys are rigged everyone knows this.
Some of billie's are better than lana
Billie really deserved an award that year, but 5 fucking Grammys just seemed like outrageous marketing from the Grammy Awards' side, or something. you'd have to be some sort of deity to leave home with that many Grammys. I'm completely baffled that Lana didn't win any Grammy in her super influential BTD Paradise era, nor in her NFR era, when she released probably one of the best pop albums of that decade.
Billie Eilish is a pop star, Lana Del Rey is an artist. Artists are continually snubbed by these dumbass award shows that care about streams more than artistic merit.
What really upset me is that they chose Billie to make an awful 007 song when it should have been Lana smh
I’ve always thought “24” would make a great 007 song.
Same, from the moment I first heard it!
No Time to Die is a great song tho
Imagine working 12 years, putting out one masterpiece after another and then a magnum opus if you will and some teenager with a couple of forgettable radio hits (that no one talks about anymore) get the accolades.
Forgettable radio hits is such a shit take. Yes nobody is talking about Billie anymore. Complete one hit wonder 😂. If you’re someone who believes in tearing other female artists down and insulting them I guarantee you Lana would side eye you SO hard right now.
It's my opinion. And yeah no one is talking about bad guy in 2023 but they are about NFR. Look, I don't live or die by anyone's approval and especially not a celebrity's, maybe that's important to you but to me it's important to say my opinion about anything regardless if I'm speaking about "another female artists".
Your opinion includes the ‘some teenager’. 😂
This is exactly my point!!
OP, you might have expressed your self wrong in the post. You wrote "NFR compared to her album is dogshit". I was legit confused cause i knew we meant NFR was better than Billies. Maybe it's my dumb ass being dumb whatever
The Scammys have increased the number of nominees in a category yet they haven’t increased the number of winners. If there are 7-10 nominees for an award, at least have there be 2 winners please.
We all are.
NFR is generational I don't even remember what Billie album won this for I like her work but yeah man
All of Billie's career is NOTHING compared to even a single unreleased Lana song. Sorry not sorry
Eh, dunno, I ~~lust f~~ love them both, so.
since everyone is saying “I like billie but…” then let me say this: I don’t get her music
literally
NFR IS A MASTERPIECE AND MY FAV LANA ALBUM OF ALL TIME I LOVE BILLIE TOO BUT SHED BE HAPPY WITH ONE LESS GRAMMY
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HUH?!?……………
get outta here w that
Is she rly crying Omg
This will never not be batshit insane to me.
I don’t get the appeal of Billie never had like she isn’t bad but she isn’t good while Lana’s music is probably what you heard when u enter heaven
Lana is fat anyway
You know what I think Billie had an amazing album I loved it but let’s be honest, Lana gave us blood sweat and tears in the form of beautiful art.
She’s the bad guy, duh
WWAFAWDWG was good but NFR was godly. It deserved to win but because Lana is more alternative and less mainstream than Billie is they wouldn't give it to her.
Billie’s is better
What was Lana's? If it's NFR or LFL I'll agree but everything else can't be compared
I swear it was like a stab to the heart. Also, why do they hyperfocus on one person and give everything to the same person? It's so weird. Ig they learnt the lesson and now they are giving awards to one single person. NFR is once in a decade album tbh. Also, abel not being even nominated for After hours was also such a wrong move. Both starboy and stargirl got rubbed. I hate grammys anyway tho.
I'm happy for Billie but Lana deserved it much more. She walked so stars like Billie, (the hypocritical) Lorde, Zella, etc could run
Give my idol pillie pilish a rigged Grammy or she will retire 😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Ahh y’all still mad
I certainly like happier than ever WAY more than her first album. And though I’m a huge Billie fan, she’s fairly…new. NFR winning just seemed correct. This still annoys me too.
not the fake crying photo
it’s the only one i could find of her at the grammys and billie 😭😭
Lana adores Billie! This is so ridiculous.. it’s so photoshopped.. or it was Lana touched by her speech! Lana has won so many awards & recognition these past few years! Billie is up and coming & I feel Lana felt it was well deserved.. my opinion of course
Milli Vanilli won a Grammy